Papiers pour le voyage de ma fille (mineure) de nationalité française en Algérie?
by Franceoran
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bnj je veux envoyer ma fille de nationalite française et de parents français en vacances a oran tout l'ete chez des amis oranais elle est titulaire d'un passeport d'une piece ditentite d'une sortie de territoire europeene et d'un visa de 3 mois biensur est-ce que quelqu'un pourrais me confirmer qu'il lui faut que ces papiers la, pck c la premiere fois quelle va seul sans nous et la compagnie d'avion ne veux pas faire un um pck elle a 13 an merci de me repondre elle part dans 15 jours
oui sa suffit si elle n'est que francaise.
son pere n'est que francais?
son pere n'est que francais?
merci oui nous sommes tous de nationalite francaise mais comme elle va faire ce voyage seul et que c'est la premiere fois je suis un peu inquiete car la douanes algerienne c sa passe ou sa casse pck avc eux on ne c jamais leur reaction sachant kel comprend un peu l'oranais mai ne le parle pas courement, le consulat ma meme di kel navai pas besoin de sa sortie de territoire mais la jai un doute?
bonsoir,
même si elle est en possession de tous les documents nécessaires au niveau de la douane, les compagnies aériennes peuvent refuser de tranporter des mineurs voyageant seuls. mais cela est très clairement stipulé dans leur règlement. A consulter, donc, avant de vous engager dans l'achat du billet d'avion.
cordialement
... là-bas si j'y suis...
ok merci je ne suis pas au courant l'agence de voyage ne m'a rien dit, la compagnie d'avion c aigle azur si quelqu'un est au courant si il refus merci de me renseigner et dans se cas la comment faire?
la compagnie d'avion c aigle azur si quelqu'un est au courant si il refus merci de me renseigner
Salut, Sans souci😎! http://www.aigle-azur.fr/Fr/Index.jsp?mod=1020&rub=1254&srub=2050
Salut, Sans souci😎! http://www.aigle-azur.fr/Fr/Index.jsp?mod=1020&rub=1254&srub=2050
Cordialement
Fayd
merci pour le lien mais ma fille a 13 ans et il nn pas vendu un billet enfant, mais adulte elle ne beneficie pas de um, je ne trouve aucun renseignement concernant mon probleme
ma fille a 13 ans
Salut, Elle a dépassé l'âge de la restriction, lire la dernière partie du lien, qui concerne tous les enfants mineurs quelque soit leur âge.
Salut, Elle a dépassé l'âge de la restriction, lire la dernière partie du lien, qui concerne tous les enfants mineurs quelque soit leur âge.
Cordialement
Fayd
merci mais je ne vois rien concernan
le mineur voyageant seul uniquement en um il prenne en charge l'enfant merci bcp quand meme je vai apeler aigle azur demain mrci bcp c tres simpa
Tout simplement téléphoner à Aigle Azur à Paris et ils te renseigneront !
LILI
LILI
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
appel a la compagnie aigle azur un acceuil tres agreable prise en charge de ma fille sans aucun souci elle sera guider d'une hotesse meme si elle ne depend pas de l'accompagnement um, donc il prenne en charge les mineurs sans souci avc biensur tous les papiers necessaire .
"C’est très Bien……Alors Bonne chance …..…et on souhaite la Bienvenue a ta Fille dans le Pays de mille et une Merveilles…..😉".
"Chaque Fois que je me trouve a court d Inspiration, je prends mon billet pour le M'Zab". (Le Corbusier) .
merci bcp et sans aucune inquietude ce n'est pas sa 1er visite avec les oranais au grand coeur seul bemole premiere vacances sans nous dans cette si belle ville, ou l'on a pas encore decouvert tous les pti tresors caché.
si c'est le pays des mille et une merveilles, expliquez nous pourquoi la majorité des algériens veulent venir en Europe ????
arretez de désinformer, l'algérie est un pays sous développé avec des risques de terrorisme, même votre président vient se faire soigner en France, c'est dire......
Etant française je ne me sent pas plus en insécurité en Algérie que dans certaines ville de notre chère France et si l'on arrêtait de faire croire que nous somme heureux alors pk les fins de mois sont tristes pour certaine personne et pour le temps des sous développés si il n'était pas la pour notre gasoil comment ferai ton? en France chacun pour soi en Algérie, on te regarde même si tu a rien , on t'aide tjrs et il ne bénéficie pas de toute les prise en charge comme nous en France, on en aurai un peu moins tous le monde serai tkl et certain n' hésiterai pas a se lever pour travailler.
alors pourquoi vous n'allez pas y vivre si c'est le paradis....
Je crois que ta fille a besoin d un autorisation paternelle et d un papier qui dit que son pére et sa mére sont d acord pour quelle voyage toute seul.Sinon l algérie est un pays magnifique il y a plusieur s choses a voir surtout les paysages.Un conseil ne pas confiez d argent a un enfant le vol est tres facile la bas ou partout ailleurs.
merci bcp et sans aucune inquietude ce n'est pas sa 1er visite avec les oranais au grand coeur seul bemole premiere vacances sans nous dans cette si belle ville, ou l'on a pas encore decouvert tous les pti tresors caché.
"Ce n est pas que les Oranais ont le Bon Cœur, mais c presque ts les Algériens, surtout ceux du Sud………😉…..
Pour découvrir correctement ts les trésor Caché , ou apparent d Un pays Hyper-Vaste comme l Algérie, crois moi il te faut des décennies……😎….J’ai vécu tte ma vie Ici, j’ai sillonné les 48 Wilayas des dizaines de Fois, j’ai jamais quitter Mon Pays et surtout je le quitterais jamais, malgré ca je me considère comme un "Ignorant" sur ce thème, et je dévoile chaque fois une nouvelle merveille…😉.. "
"Ce n est pas que les Oranais ont le Bon Cœur, mais c presque ts les Algériens, surtout ceux du Sud………😉…..
Pour découvrir correctement ts les trésor Caché , ou apparent d Un pays Hyper-Vaste comme l Algérie, crois moi il te faut des décennies……😎….J’ai vécu tte ma vie Ici, j’ai sillonné les 48 Wilayas des dizaines de Fois, j’ai jamais quitter Mon Pays et surtout je le quitterais jamais, malgré ca je me considère comme un "Ignorant" sur ce thème, et je dévoile chaque fois une nouvelle merveille…😉.. "
"Chaque Fois que je me trouve a court d Inspiration, je prends mon billet pour le M'Zab". (Le Corbusier) .
Je crois que ta fille a besoin d un autorisation paternelle et d un papier qui dit que son pére et sa mére sont d acord pour quelle voyage toute seul.Sinon l algérie est un pays magnifique il y a plusieur s choses a voir surtout les paysages.Un conseil ne pas confiez d argent a un enfant le vol est tres facile la bas ou partout ailleurs.
"La Fille porte la Nationalité Française , un Français muni de visa , elle n’a pas besoin d autorisation paternel pr entrer ou sortir d’ Algérie ….
Tu as raison, un enfant est un être vulnérable au risque de Vol, qu’il soit en Algérie, en France, ou a Tora –Bora…😄".
"La Fille porte la Nationalité Française , un Français muni de visa , elle n’a pas besoin d autorisation paternel pr entrer ou sortir d’ Algérie ….
Tu as raison, un enfant est un être vulnérable au risque de Vol, qu’il soit en Algérie, en France, ou a Tora –Bora…😄".
"Chaque Fois que je me trouve a court d Inspiration, je prends mon billet pour le M'Zab". (Le Corbusier) .
Bonjour,
Je crois que ta fille a besoin d un autorisation paternelle et d un papier qui dit que son pére et sa mére sont d acord pour quelle voyage toute seul.
Non ; pas si elle n'est pas algérienne et que ses parents ne le sont pas.
Michel
Je crois que ta fille a besoin d un autorisation paternelle et d un papier qui dit que son pére et sa mére sont d acord pour quelle voyage toute seul.
Non ; pas si elle n'est pas algérienne et que ses parents ne le sont pas.
Michel
Bonjour,
elle est titulaire d'un passeport d'une piece ditentite d'une sortie de territoire europeene et d'un visa de 3 mois biensur est-ce que quelqu'un pourrais me confirmer qu'il lui faut que ces papiers la
Si elle as un passeport et un visa, je ne vois pas ce qu'il faudrait de plus. L'autorisation de sortie du territoire est inutile.
Si elle est algérienne d'une façon ou d'une autre, par contre, il y a cela.
Michel
elle est titulaire d'un passeport d'une piece ditentite d'une sortie de territoire europeene et d'un visa de 3 mois biensur est-ce que quelqu'un pourrais me confirmer qu'il lui faut que ces papiers la
Si elle as un passeport et un visa, je ne vois pas ce qu'il faudrait de plus. L'autorisation de sortie du territoire est inutile.
Si elle est algérienne d'une façon ou d'une autre, par contre, il y a cela.
Michel
Si elle as un passeport et un visa, je ne vois pas ce qu'il faudrait de plus.
L'autorisation de sortie du territoire est inutile.
Salut, La compagnie aérienne exige l'autorisation de sortie pour les enfants de de 4 à 11 ans, sans distinction de natiionalité, ainsi que le N° de la pièce d'identité de la personne qui va prendre en charge l'enfant seul à l'arrivée. Mais cet enfant est âgée de 13 ans! http://www.aigle-azur.fr/Fr/Index.jsp?mod=1020&rub=1254&srub=2050
Salut, La compagnie aérienne exige l'autorisation de sortie pour les enfants de de 4 à 11 ans, sans distinction de natiionalité, ainsi que le N° de la pièce d'identité de la personne qui va prendre en charge l'enfant seul à l'arrivée. Mais cet enfant est âgée de 13 ans! http://www.aigle-azur.fr/Fr/Index.jsp?mod=1020&rub=1254&srub=2050
Cordialement
Fayd
La compagnie aérienne exige l'autorisation de sortie pour les enfants de de 4 à 11 ans, sans distinction de natiionalité
Quelle "autorisation de sortie" ?
Michel
Quelle "autorisation de sortie" ?
Michel
La compagnie aérienne exige l'autorisation de sortie pour les enfants de de 4 à 11 ans, sans distinction de natiionalité
Vous comprenez mal je pense ; c'est dans le cas où le mineur seul voyage avec une carte d'identité. Et où ce document est demandé par la police.
Michel
Vous comprenez mal je pense ; c'est dans le cas où le mineur seul voyage avec une carte d'identité. Et où ce document est demandé par la police.
Michel
Quelle "autorisation de sortie" ?
Salut, C'est bien indiqué dans le lien!
Salut, C'est bien indiqué dans le lien!
Cordialement
Fayd
C'est bien indiqué dans le lien!
Lisons bien.
Michel
Lisons bien.
Michel
Vous comprenez mal je pense ; c'est dans le cas où le mineur seul voyage avec une carte d'identité.
Salut, C'est pour un voyage en Algérie, et il faut le passeport!
Salut, C'est pour un voyage en Algérie, et il faut le passeport!
Cordialement
Fayd
C'est pour un voyage en Algérie, et il faut le passeport!
Donc pas d'autorisation de sortie du territoire... 🙂
Michel
Donc pas d'autorisation de sortie du territoire... 🙂
Michel
Donc pas d'autorisation de sortie du territoire...
Salut, Si, pour l'Algérie😏!
Salut, Si, pour l'Algérie😏!
Cordialement
Fayd
Salut,
Si, pour l'Algérie😏!
Non, je ne pense pas , je crois que le texte dont vous donnez le lien est écrit en pensant à un mineur qui voyagerait vers une autre destination et avec une carte d'identité.
Michel
Non, je ne pense pas , je crois que le texte dont vous donnez le lien est écrit en pensant à un mineur qui voyagerait vers une autre destination et avec une carte d'identité.
Michel
Donc pour sortir de la france il lui faut un sortie de territoire obligatoire meme avc son passeport, car elle voyage seul, et pour sortir de l'algerie sa carte d'itentite française est exiger plus son passeport biensur.
Donc pour sortir de la france il lui faut un sortie de territoire obligatoire meme avc son passeport, car elle voyage seul
Non.
Michel
Non.
Michel
et pour sortir de l'algerie sa carte d'itentite française est exiger plus son passeport biensur.
Non plus.
Michel
Non plus.
Michel
Merci de bien vouloir m'informer si des personnes ont déjà obtenu un visa de touriste de 90 jours , J'ai fais une demande de visa pour ma fille de 90 jours elle a déjà obtenu 2 visa mais simplement de 1 mois , je viens d'avoir un doute est-ce kil passe mtn ? ou cela devient comme pour les algériens refus successive?
"Patiente qu’ elle obtiens son Visa de 90 Jours……….Puis Juste avec Le Passeport + Visa , elle peut entré et sortir d Algérie sans soucis……
Pour les Lois Algérienne , c est une étrangère, donc, la PAF Algérienne ne lui demande rien a la Sortie a part le Passeport + Visa , les Lois Algérienne protègent uniquement les Mineurs Algériens ( Titulaire de Passeport Algérien) , il doivent être accompagné par leur Père, ou autorisation paternel..."
Pour les Lois Algérienne , c est une étrangère, donc, la PAF Algérienne ne lui demande rien a la Sortie a part le Passeport + Visa , les Lois Algérienne protègent uniquement les Mineurs Algériens ( Titulaire de Passeport Algérien) , il doivent être accompagné par leur Père, ou autorisation paternel..."
"Chaque Fois que je me trouve a court d Inspiration, je prends mon billet pour le M'Zab". (Le Corbusier) .
alors pour info visa accordé de 90 jours à ma fille qui est mineur et qui voyage seul et le passage en douane sans aucun soucis uniquement avc son passeport et son visa bonne vacances a tous et merc ipour tous les renseignements.
"Bienvenue au pays de mille et une merveilles….".
"Chaque Fois que je me trouve a court d Inspiration, je prends mon billet pour le M'Zab". (Le Corbusier) .
mille et une merveilles ? eh ben c'est un secret alors,
mille et une merveilles ? eh ben c'est un secret alors,
" Certainement …Mais Juste réservé pr les connaisseurs , experts et les chevronnés qui peuvent débusquer les 1000 et Une Merveilles de mon Bled…….😉..".
" Certainement …Mais Juste réservé pr les connaisseurs , experts et les chevronnés qui peuvent débusquer les 1000 et Une Merveilles de mon Bled…….😉..".
"Chaque Fois que je me trouve a court d Inspiration, je prends mon billet pour le M'Zab". (Le Corbusier) .
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No issues with that procedure so far.
If I get this visa, once I arrive in Madagascar, I’ll need to provide the same documents to the Ministry of the Interior in Anosy. I’m trying to find an email address or website for the Ministry to check which documents I need to submit (I think they ask for additional ones).
If you have any info on this, I’d appreciate your replies.
Best regards,
M. Buisson Eric
Hi there,
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
Hi,
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m spending a few days in San Pedro de Atacama (Chile) and would like to cross the Argentine border to make a loop toward Salta and then return to Chile to drop off the rental car.
I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale
Hi everyone,
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Hi
Has anyone been to Rwanda recently and gotten a 3-month visa on arrival easily?
Thanks
Hi there,
My departure is slowly approaching, and now that I’ve got my Russian visa sorted, I’m fine-tuning the rest of my trip to Tajikistan. Since the Tajik visa is no longer required for stays under 30 days (for French nationals), I’ll need to visit the Ministry of Interior (OVIR) to register within 10 days of entering the country. No big deal, though, since I had to go there anyway to apply for my GBAO permit. 😉 However, I’ve *seen* several reports from travelers (mostly motorized) mentioning that you need an entry permit for Kyrgyzstan, which has to be arranged in advance at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) in Dushanbe. Otherwise, you’re *stuck* at the Kyzyl-Art border (with no Wi-Fi, of course, to try and sort it out). The most recent report was from a year ago, so I’d love to know if this is still the case and if it’s indeed at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) where you need to go for this pre-authorization.
Does anyone have any recent info on this?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
I’m leaving for almost 3 months in the Philippines (11 weeks total) starting in early May.
I already have my round-trip ticket.
The problem is, I don’t have time to get a 2-month visa because the process takes nearly a month.
From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
Hello to all the Thailand regulars.
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie




