Qu’en pensez-vous?. Quelqu’un pour m’aider à résoudre ce dilemne??? Je change d’id à chaque semaine... Monique
Parc Kruger et Fish River ou Botswana?
by Sebnicou
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour, voilà notre dilemne.
Nous avons 26 jours sur place en Namibie avec ma fille de 10 ans et nous hésitons grandement entre le combiné classique Namibie, Botswana, Vic Falls ou de rester seulement en Namibie et aller plus au sud avec 4- 5 jours au KTP et Fish River canyon et garder le Botswana pour un autre voyage...
Mon coeur balance...
Je veux quand même pouvoir relaxer et même si nous louerons un 4x4 avec tentes sur le toit et que nous sommes habitué de conduire dans de la neige au Québec, j’ai un peu peur de m’enliser dans le sable ou la boue au Botswana. On voulait aller à Moremi et Savuti mais là, on hésite.
Nous avons fait 1 mois en 2015 en ADS et avons adoré nos self drive..
Qu’en pensez-vous?. Quelqu’un pour m’aider à résoudre ce dilemne??? Je change d’id à chaque semaine... Monique
Qu’en pensez-vous?. Quelqu’un pour m’aider à résoudre ce dilemne??? Je change d’id à chaque semaine... Monique
Monique
Quand ?
Si c'est bientôt (c'est à dire l'été prochain), là où il y aura de la place...
Si c'est bientôt (c'est à dire l'été prochain), là où il y aura de la place...
Bonsoir
Les 2 programmes sont tres bons et je te rassure ce sera formidable. Mais a mon humble avis, quan on va si loin il est peut être préférable d.opter pour des options complémentaires ! Je m explique si tu restes en Namibie, tu te cantonnes au désert, si tu vas au botswana zimbabwe en plus du desert, tu auras une partie complementaire liée plus a l, eau ( delta okavango et chute Victoria ), ton voyage sera plus diversifié. Cela est un angle qui pourra t.aider à choisir ! Pour le problème des conditions de circulation, tu trouveras toujours une âme charitable qui t aidera à sortir d .un enlisement ( il.y a pas mal de monde qui circule sur les chemins principaux à moremi ou chobe à cette période ), cela fait partie du folklore là bas d aider ceux qui sont enlisés , si les saisons sont respectées, tu n auras pas a souffrir de la boue ! Il n .y en a très peu durant la période où tu veux voyager !
Si j .ai pu t aider dans ton choix
Roberto
Les 2 programmes sont tres bons et je te rassure ce sera formidable. Mais a mon humble avis, quan on va si loin il est peut être préférable d.opter pour des options complémentaires ! Je m explique si tu restes en Namibie, tu te cantonnes au désert, si tu vas au botswana zimbabwe en plus du desert, tu auras une partie complementaire liée plus a l, eau ( delta okavango et chute Victoria ), ton voyage sera plus diversifié. Cela est un angle qui pourra t.aider à choisir ! Pour le problème des conditions de circulation, tu trouveras toujours une âme charitable qui t aidera à sortir d .un enlisement ( il.y a pas mal de monde qui circule sur les chemins principaux à moremi ou chobe à cette période ), cela fait partie du folklore là bas d aider ceux qui sont enlisés , si les saisons sont respectées, tu n auras pas a souffrir de la boue ! Il n .y en a très peu durant la période où tu veux voyager !
Si j .ai pu t aider dans ton choix
Roberto
Bonsoir
Les 2 programmes sont tres bons et je te rassure ce sera formidable. Mais a mon humble avis, quan on va si loin il est peut être préférable d.opter pour des options complémentaires ! Je m explique si tu restes en Namibie, tu te cantonnes au désert, si tu vas au botswana zimbabwe en plus du desert, tu auras une partie complementaire liée plus a l, eau ( delta okavango et chute Victoria ), ton voyage sera plus diversifié. Cela est un angle qui pourra t.aider à choisir ! Pour le problème des conditions de circulation, tu trouveras toujours une âme charitable qui t aidera à sortir d .un enlisement ( il.y a pas mal de monde qui circule sur les chemins principaux à moremi ou chobe à cette période ), cela fait partie du folklore là bas d aider ceux qui sont enlisés , si les saisons sont respectées, tu n auras pas a souffrir de la boue ! Il n .y en a très peu durant la période où tu veux voyager !
Si j .ai pu t aider dans ton choix
Roberto
Merci Roberto, ma douce moitié penchait aussi pour le Botswana et est confiant de pouvoir “ naviguer “ 😱 à Moremi et on voudrait vraiment profiter d’une diversité de paysage, ce que nous avions vraiment apprécié en Afrique du Sud. Je vois que cela ne semble pas si compliqué de réserver soit même pour les campings en Namibie sans passer par l’intermédiaire d’une agence, mais qu’en est-il des parcs du Botswana? Vaut-il mieux passer par une agence? Si on voulait laisser notre véhicule à Kasane pour reprendre notre vol de retour par Vic Falls ou Livingstone, y a- t-il beaucoup de frais si on l’a loué à Wyndhoek? Est-ce que toutes les agences de location Asco, ou autres, permettent cela?
Monique
Les 2 programmes sont tres bons et je te rassure ce sera formidable. Mais a mon humble avis, quan on va si loin il est peut être préférable d.opter pour des options complémentaires ! Je m explique si tu restes en Namibie, tu te cantonnes au désert, si tu vas au botswana zimbabwe en plus du desert, tu auras une partie complementaire liée plus a l, eau ( delta okavango et chute Victoria ), ton voyage sera plus diversifié. Cela est un angle qui pourra t.aider à choisir ! Pour le problème des conditions de circulation, tu trouveras toujours une âme charitable qui t aidera à sortir d .un enlisement ( il.y a pas mal de monde qui circule sur les chemins principaux à moremi ou chobe à cette période ), cela fait partie du folklore là bas d aider ceux qui sont enlisés , si les saisons sont respectées, tu n auras pas a souffrir de la boue ! Il n .y en a très peu durant la période où tu veux voyager !
Si j .ai pu t aider dans ton choix
Roberto
Merci Roberto, ma douce moitié penchait aussi pour le Botswana et est confiant de pouvoir “ naviguer “ 😱 à Moremi et on voudrait vraiment profiter d’une diversité de paysage, ce que nous avions vraiment apprécié en Afrique du Sud. Je vois que cela ne semble pas si compliqué de réserver soit même pour les campings en Namibie sans passer par l’intermédiaire d’une agence, mais qu’en est-il des parcs du Botswana? Vaut-il mieux passer par une agence? Si on voulait laisser notre véhicule à Kasane pour reprendre notre vol de retour par Vic Falls ou Livingstone, y a- t-il beaucoup de frais si on l’a loué à Wyndhoek? Est-ce que toutes les agences de location Asco, ou autres, permettent cela?
Monique
Monique
Bonjour
Le botswana est un pays élitiste et il.est plus difficile d organiser son safari en self drive, mais c est possible et il.faut s y prendre à l avance, une réservation de.plus d une année est conseillée.
La reserve de Moremi et de Chobe sont particulièrement prisées.
Les reservations se font désormais par des organismes privés Kwalatesafaris : camping xakanaxa et ihaha Xomae: third bridge Sklcamps: savuti et kwai
Ce sont des reservations qui se font en.direct auprès de leur service.
J ai une petite préférence pour third bridge, mais xakanaxa et kwai sont également très bien.
Juste une precision, a partir de xakanaxa et third bridge, il.y a un ponton pour louer un bateau et faire un safari sur les.iles inaccessibles en auto, périple fabuleux vers godikwe etc.... je.vous le.conseille vivement
Par contre, savuti camp site à chobe est un incontournable
Pour ce qui est des loueurs de 4x4, cela est possible de laisser son auto à kasane, moyennant une surprime, il faut leur demander, chaque société a sa propre façon de faire
Une precision, un safari à moremi et chobe est différent de ce que.vous avez pu connaître dans d.autres pays, il.faut etre totalement autonome, il n existe qu un petit magasin à la sortie de kwai
Cdt
Roberto
Le botswana est un pays élitiste et il.est plus difficile d organiser son safari en self drive, mais c est possible et il.faut s y prendre à l avance, une réservation de.plus d une année est conseillée.
La reserve de Moremi et de Chobe sont particulièrement prisées.
Les reservations se font désormais par des organismes privés Kwalatesafaris : camping xakanaxa et ihaha Xomae: third bridge Sklcamps: savuti et kwai
Ce sont des reservations qui se font en.direct auprès de leur service.
J ai une petite préférence pour third bridge, mais xakanaxa et kwai sont également très bien.
Juste une precision, a partir de xakanaxa et third bridge, il.y a un ponton pour louer un bateau et faire un safari sur les.iles inaccessibles en auto, périple fabuleux vers godikwe etc.... je.vous le.conseille vivement
Par contre, savuti camp site à chobe est un incontournable
Pour ce qui est des loueurs de 4x4, cela est possible de laisser son auto à kasane, moyennant une surprime, il faut leur demander, chaque société a sa propre façon de faire
Une precision, un safari à moremi et chobe est différent de ce que.vous avez pu connaître dans d.autres pays, il.faut etre totalement autonome, il n existe qu un petit magasin à la sortie de kwai
Cdt
Roberto
Si c'est pour 2019, il reste quelques petits mois pour se décider. 😉
L'option Botswana sera beaucoup plus coûteuse et plus "aventureuse". Il faudra savoir se débrouiller sur les pistes ensablées et accepter un confort minimaliste, celui du 4x4 qui servira de maison douche et toilettes comprises. Il faudra aussi être sûr de la "sagesse" de votre enfant. Adosser Namibie et Botswana dans un même voyage de relativement courte durée, c'est aussi ne programmer qu'une petite partie de chacun de ces pays . Donc renoncer soit à toute la partie sud soit à toute la partie nord.
L'option Botswana sera beaucoup plus coûteuse et plus "aventureuse". Il faudra savoir se débrouiller sur les pistes ensablées et accepter un confort minimaliste, celui du 4x4 qui servira de maison douche et toilettes comprises. Il faudra aussi être sûr de la "sagesse" de votre enfant. Adosser Namibie et Botswana dans un même voyage de relativement courte durée, c'est aussi ne programmer qu'une petite partie de chacun de ces pays . Donc renoncer soit à toute la partie sud soit à toute la partie nord.
C’es pour cela qu’on hésite tant.Après l’Afrique du Sud avec nos 3 enfants, nous sommes partis avec eux en Islande, puis 1 mois en Indonésie l’été dernier...
Étant québécois, nous sommes habitués à faire beaucoup de route. En 2008, nous sommes partis avec notre trailer et avons roulé non stop de Montréal à Denver pour aller faire un mois dans les grands parcs de l’ouest des Etats-Unis.
Habituellement, nous aimons tout réserver nous mêmes, et rester dans 1 seul pays..
Cette fois, seule ma fille qui aura allors près de 11 ans, et peut-être mon fils de 18 ans viendrait avec nous. L’ainé a d’autres plans..
Ma fille est une excellente voyageuse, elle est née les 2 pieds dedans...
Plus j’ y pense, plus mon idée de me concentrer sur la Namibie me parle, et je veux vraiment aller au KTP et au sud. On se dit, mon chum et moi, qu’on pourrait peut-être faire le Botswana avec le nord de la Namibie ( Puros, Epupa Falls) l’année suivante... On ne fait que parler de L’Afrique depuis 2015....
Est ce que les camps de Polentswa et Rooitprus qui sont ouverts sont risqués pour un enfant de 11 ans. Les wildness camps de sanparks pour le KTP sont tous inaccessibles pour les enfants de moins de 12 ans, sauf le Kalahari tented camp.
Monique
Plus j’ y pense, plus mon idée de me concentrer sur la Namibie me parle, et je veux vraiment aller au KTP et au sud. On se dit, mon chum et moi, qu’on pourrait peut-être faire le Botswana avec le nord de la Namibie ( Puros, Epupa Falls) l’année suivante... On ne fait que parler de L’Afrique depuis 2015....
Est ce que les camps de Polentswa et Rooitprus qui sont ouverts sont risqués pour un enfant de 11 ans. Les wildness camps de sanparks pour le KTP sont tous inaccessibles pour les enfants de moins de 12 ans, sauf le Kalahari tented camp.
Monique
Monique
Est ce que les camps de Polentswa et Rooitprus qui sont ouverts sont risqués pour un enfant de 11 ans.
Tout dépend de l'enfant et de ses parents...
Les petits camps du KTP côté afs sont ouverts mais en bungalows avec cuisine, wc et toilettes intégrés. Il n'y a donc pas vraiment de risques à moins d'être totalement inconscient et de laisser sa porte grande ouverte avec un gros morceau de viande en offrande sur le palier !
En camping côté botswana, seule la voiture et la tente forment un espace sécurisé. Une envie pressante au milieu de la nuit reste une petite expédition surtout pour la moitié féminine de l'humanité...
Tout dépend de l'enfant et de ses parents...
Les petits camps du KTP côté afs sont ouverts mais en bungalows avec cuisine, wc et toilettes intégrés. Il n'y a donc pas vraiment de risques à moins d'être totalement inconscient et de laisser sa porte grande ouverte avec un gros morceau de viande en offrande sur le palier !
En camping côté botswana, seule la voiture et la tente forment un espace sécurisé. Une envie pressante au milieu de la nuit reste une petite expédition surtout pour la moitié féminine de l'humanité...
Bonjour Sebnicou,
Je ne connais pas le Botswana, mais comme tu dis que vous êtes déjà allés dans l'Ouest américain, le canyon de la Fish River est moins "impressionnant" à mon sens que le Grand Canyon (je te laisse te faire une idée grâce au lien vers l'article de notre site). Il sera juste un peu (beaucoup 😉 ) moins fréquenté!
Donc, je te conseille moi aussi de compléter plutôt par le Botswana, sauf si les curiosités géologiques sont une grande passion pour vous 🙂.
Bon voyage en tout cas, vous allez vous régaler!!
Je ne connais pas le Botswana, mais comme tu dis que vous êtes déjà allés dans l'Ouest américain, le canyon de la Fish River est moins "impressionnant" à mon sens que le Grand Canyon (je te laisse te faire une idée grâce au lien vers l'article de notre site). Il sera juste un peu (beaucoup 😉 ) moins fréquenté!
Donc, je te conseille moi aussi de compléter plutôt par le Botswana, sauf si les curiosités géologiques sont une grande passion pour vous 🙂.
Bon voyage en tout cas, vous allez vous régaler!!
Guillaume
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Bonjour
Je vois que votre fille est une excellente voyageuse et cela est rassurant
A titre de comparaison j ai déjà fait un safari au nord du botsawana avec des enfants âgés de 7 et 11 ans, tout s est bien passé, ses parents les avaient brieffe en.leur disant que nous etions sur le territoire des animaux et non pas le contraire.Par la, suite, nous sommes séparés car de leur côté, ils faisaient un safari à pied dans l okavango durant 4 jours et j avais gardé des contacts avec eux ( ils étaient californiens ) et tout etait ok également même si le safari à pied est autrement plus «aventure.»
A titre d info, mais si ce n est qu un avis, le botswana est sans doute le meilleur endroit au monde pour faire un safari ( excepté la zambie et le sud de la tanzanie ) , j ai fait tous les grands pays de, safari! Et donc j ai des éléments de comparaison! Le botswana ne permet pas, seulement le safari, mais une expérience de vie, lors des campings que j ai pu faire a moremi ou savuti, j ai vu des enfants qui etaient accompagnés de parents qui avaient de l experience des voyages et des safaris , pas de problème particulier en fait
A titre d information, les campings etant gérés par des sociétés privées, des infrastructures ont été installées et des rangers ne sont jamais très loin des camps, ce qui est bien différent des premières années où j y suis allé ( 1994 la première fois ! )je me rappelerai des premiers mots d un voyageur francophone qui avait affirmé apres ses safaris C EST GIGANTESQUE ! Il.y en a qui payent des sommes folles pour y aller, mais en camping en self drive on limite les dégâts financiers , 50 $ personne/ nuits/adultes, plus les fees et les droits d entrée de votre véhicule ! Je ne sais pas si ces prix vont encore rester les mêmes eu egard à la politique elitiste du botswana
Bien cordialement
Je vois que votre fille est une excellente voyageuse et cela est rassurant
A titre de comparaison j ai déjà fait un safari au nord du botsawana avec des enfants âgés de 7 et 11 ans, tout s est bien passé, ses parents les avaient brieffe en.leur disant que nous etions sur le territoire des animaux et non pas le contraire.Par la, suite, nous sommes séparés car de leur côté, ils faisaient un safari à pied dans l okavango durant 4 jours et j avais gardé des contacts avec eux ( ils étaient californiens ) et tout etait ok également même si le safari à pied est autrement plus «aventure.»
A titre d info, mais si ce n est qu un avis, le botswana est sans doute le meilleur endroit au monde pour faire un safari ( excepté la zambie et le sud de la tanzanie ) , j ai fait tous les grands pays de, safari! Et donc j ai des éléments de comparaison! Le botswana ne permet pas, seulement le safari, mais une expérience de vie, lors des campings que j ai pu faire a moremi ou savuti, j ai vu des enfants qui etaient accompagnés de parents qui avaient de l experience des voyages et des safaris , pas de problème particulier en fait
A titre d information, les campings etant gérés par des sociétés privées, des infrastructures ont été installées et des rangers ne sont jamais très loin des camps, ce qui est bien différent des premières années où j y suis allé ( 1994 la première fois ! )je me rappelerai des premiers mots d un voyageur francophone qui avait affirmé apres ses safaris C EST GIGANTESQUE ! Il.y en a qui payent des sommes folles pour y aller, mais en camping en self drive on limite les dégâts financiers , 50 $ personne/ nuits/adultes, plus les fees et les droits d entrée de votre véhicule ! Je ne sais pas si ces prix vont encore rester les mêmes eu egard à la politique elitiste du botswana
Bien cordialement
Il.y en a qui payent des sommes folles pour y aller, mais en camping en self drive on limite les dégâts financiers, 50 $ personne/ nuits/adultes, plus les fees et les droits d entrée de votre véhicule !
Ben " 50 $ personne/ nuits/adultes, plus les fees et les droits d entrée de votre véhicule !", c'est déjà une somme folle ...😇 Enfin, pour un voyageur lambda.
Ben " 50 $ personne/ nuits/adultes, plus les fees et les droits d entrée de votre véhicule !", c'est déjà une somme folle ...😇 Enfin, pour un voyageur lambda.
Ah revoilà Roberto les bons tuyaux...😇
Bonjour Sebnicou,
Je ne connais pas le Botswana, mais comme tu dis que vous êtes déjà allés dans l'Ouest américain, le canyon de la Fish River est moins "impressionnant" à mon sens que le Grand Canyon (je te laisse te faire une idée grâce au lien vers l'article de notre site). Il sera juste un peu (beaucoup 😉 ) moins fréquenté!
Donc, je te conseille moi aussi de compléter plutôt par le Botswana, sauf si les curiosités géologiques sont une grande passion pour vous 🙂.
Bon voyage en tout cas, vous allez vous régaler!!
C’est vrai Guillaume, le Grand Canyon, c’est quelque chose , mais le monde, surtout l’été avec les vacances scolaires, c’est vraiment trop😱. Nous adorons les grands espaces, les nuits étoilées, la quiétude.. Nous avons adoré le Blyde river canyon en ADS, et contrairement à certains, le Kruger faits en 7 nuits et en allant dans les plus petits camps nous a enchantés. On a été dans des petits sentiers sans trop de monde..et avons vu notre lot d’animaux. J’avais vraiment pas trop aimé le camping de Lower Sabie par contre....vraiment trop de monde🤬 Quels campings au KTP acceptent les enfants de moins de 12 ans? Est- ce qu'une boucle qui ferait Mata Mata ou Kalahari tented camp, Twe Rivieren, Nossob 2 nuits ou Polentswa? , puis dernière nuit à Mata Mata serait logique en sachant que nous allons au Fish River après? J’arrive pas à préciser un parcours dans le KTP pour arriver et sortir par Mata Mata . en 4 ou 5 nuits? Devons - nous rester sur les routes principales ou on peut sortir sur des pistes plus intéressantes? Avez- vous un guide pratique qui décrit le KTP que je pourrais consulter?
Merci à tous pour vos réponses, c’est super de voir les différents avis entre les partisans de faire le comi Namibie- Botswana et les partisans de faire la Namibie seule...Ce forum est une mine d’infos super pratiques
Monique
Je ne connais pas le Botswana, mais comme tu dis que vous êtes déjà allés dans l'Ouest américain, le canyon de la Fish River est moins "impressionnant" à mon sens que le Grand Canyon (je te laisse te faire une idée grâce au lien vers l'article de notre site). Il sera juste un peu (beaucoup 😉 ) moins fréquenté!
Donc, je te conseille moi aussi de compléter plutôt par le Botswana, sauf si les curiosités géologiques sont une grande passion pour vous 🙂.
Bon voyage en tout cas, vous allez vous régaler!!
C’est vrai Guillaume, le Grand Canyon, c’est quelque chose , mais le monde, surtout l’été avec les vacances scolaires, c’est vraiment trop😱. Nous adorons les grands espaces, les nuits étoilées, la quiétude.. Nous avons adoré le Blyde river canyon en ADS, et contrairement à certains, le Kruger faits en 7 nuits et en allant dans les plus petits camps nous a enchantés. On a été dans des petits sentiers sans trop de monde..et avons vu notre lot d’animaux. J’avais vraiment pas trop aimé le camping de Lower Sabie par contre....vraiment trop de monde🤬 Quels campings au KTP acceptent les enfants de moins de 12 ans? Est- ce qu'une boucle qui ferait Mata Mata ou Kalahari tented camp, Twe Rivieren, Nossob 2 nuits ou Polentswa? , puis dernière nuit à Mata Mata serait logique en sachant que nous allons au Fish River après? J’arrive pas à préciser un parcours dans le KTP pour arriver et sortir par Mata Mata . en 4 ou 5 nuits? Devons - nous rester sur les routes principales ou on peut sortir sur des pistes plus intéressantes? Avez- vous un guide pratique qui décrit le KTP que je pourrais consulter?
Merci à tous pour vos réponses, c’est super de voir les différents avis entre les partisans de faire le comi Namibie- Botswana et les partisans de faire la Namibie seule...Ce forum est une mine d’infos super pratiques
Monique
Monique
J’arrive pas à préciser un parcours dans le KTP pour arriver et sortir par Mata Mata. en 4 ou 5 nuits? Devons - nous rester sur les routes principales ou on peut sortir sur des pistes plus intéressantes?
Je ne pense pas que polentswa soit interdit aux enfants.
Donc :
Kalahari tented camp - Nossob - Polentswa -twee rivieren et sortie par mata mata avant 1600 avec dodo hors du parc en direction de fish.
Je ne pense pas que polentswa soit interdit aux enfants.
Donc :
Kalahari tented camp - Nossob - Polentswa -twee rivieren et sortie par mata mata avant 1600 avec dodo hors du parc en direction de fish.
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3/01: Arrival in Johannesburg at 11:45 PM 4/01: Flight to Cape Town, pick up rental car. Afternoon sightseeing 5,6,7/01: Cape Town to visit the big classics in the area (any tips for finding accommodation: which neighborhood, a specific place?) 8/01: Overnight stop before Oudtshoorn—but where??? (Is it essential, or is the CT-Oudtshoorn drive manageable? If so, I’d gain a day in Oudtshoorn. Google Maps shows over 5 hours of driving...) 9,10/01: Oudtshoorn (or would 3 nights be better to really enjoy the area?) 11,12/01: Knysna, Plettenberg Bay (to have time for hiking—if you’ve got hiking tips, I’m all ears!) 13,14/01: Tsitsikamma (still to have time for hiking—who knows the must-do hikes in the area? But maybe 4 nights in the Knysna-Tsitsikamma area is too much—I’m not sure) 16,17/01: Addo Elephant (I’m torn between 3 nights at Addo or 3 nights at Mountain Zebra. Based on travel journals, especially Michel’s on MZ, I’ve scheduled 3 nights at MZ 😄...) 18,19,20/01: Mountain Zebra NP 21/01: Camdeboo NP (because it looks so beautiful!) 22/01: Overnight stop (where?) before wrapping up the trip with either 2 or 3 nights at Golden Gate NP or the Lesotho option, which appeals to me, but I don’t know if it’s doable in 3 days to be back in Johannesburg by the afternoon of the 26th.
That’s my trip idea for now... I’m eagerly waiting for your advice, ideas, and comments... Can’t wait to be back there again!
3/01: Arrival in Johannesburg at 11:45 PM 4/01: Flight to Cape Town, pick up rental car. Afternoon sightseeing 5,6,7/01: Cape Town to visit the big classics in the area (any tips for finding accommodation: which neighborhood, a specific place?) 8/01: Overnight stop before Oudtshoorn—but where??? (Is it essential, or is the CT-Oudtshoorn drive manageable? If so, I’d gain a day in Oudtshoorn. Google Maps shows over 5 hours of driving...) 9,10/01: Oudtshoorn (or would 3 nights be better to really enjoy the area?) 11,12/01: Knysna, Plettenberg Bay (to have time for hiking—if you’ve got hiking tips, I’m all ears!) 13,14/01: Tsitsikamma (still to have time for hiking—who knows the must-do hikes in the area? But maybe 4 nights in the Knysna-Tsitsikamma area is too much—I’m not sure) 16,17/01: Addo Elephant (I’m torn between 3 nights at Addo or 3 nights at Mountain Zebra. Based on travel journals, especially Michel’s on MZ, I’ve scheduled 3 nights at MZ 😄...) 18,19,20/01: Mountain Zebra NP 21/01: Camdeboo NP (because it looks so beautiful!) 22/01: Overnight stop (where?) before wrapping up the trip with either 2 or 3 nights at Golden Gate NP or the Lesotho option, which appeals to me, but I don’t know if it’s doable in 3 days to be back in Johannesburg by the afternoon of the 26th.
That’s my trip idea for now... I’m eagerly waiting for your advice, ideas, and comments... Can’t wait to be back there again!
Nous partons pour un mois en afrique du sud à 5 adultes
nous desirons louer un vehicule pouvant accueillir 5 personnes et tous les bagages;
nous partons du cap pour finir à Johannesburg
que nous conseillez vous comme vehicule ?
EDITH
Hi everyone!
I’m still planning my Cape Town to Johannesburg trip in January 2027.
I saw a documentary about the San people in Namibia, and the same day, I stumbled upon the Lonely Planet page about !Kwah Ttu.
I checked out their website to learn more, including Michel’s travel journal about it. I’m really keen to go.
So, I’m thinking of dedicating:
- either 1 day out of the 4.5 I have in Cape Town...
- or making a detour to !Kwah Ttu on the day I leave Cape Town for Montagu, instead of visiting Franschhoek and its Saturday market...
To the VFers who’ve already been: is it really worth spending a day there?
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Malijp
Hi there,
I’m planning a gorilla trek in Bwindi, Uganda. I’m torn between the classic option (1 hour with the gorillas) and the habituation trek (4 hours with the gorillas but a more expensive permit). Has anyone done the habituation trek? Both? If so, I’d love to hear your feedback (including on the difficulty).
Thanks
I'm looking for information and reviews about an agency called BOSS LADY'S DHOW
in Tanzania.
Do you have any info or feedback about them?
Best,
Sebastien
Best,
Sebastien
Hi everyone,
I’ve read some travel journals here but I still have a question.
We’re heading to Uganda next February. The gorilla permits are booked, and the flight tickets are sorted too.
My question is about the chimpanzee trek. I’d love to know whether it’s better to book the habituation experience (4 hours) or the standard trek (1 hour).
The price difference isn’t huge, but I keep wondering and I’d hate to miss out on a great experience.
Could I get your thoughts?
Thanks! Have a great day, Elodie
I’ve read some travel journals here but I still have a question.
We’re heading to Uganda next February. The gorilla permits are booked, and the flight tickets are sorted too.
My question is about the chimpanzee trek. I’d love to know whether it’s better to book the habituation experience (4 hours) or the standard trek (1 hour).
The price difference isn’t huge, but I keep wondering and I’d hate to miss out on a great experience.
Could I get your thoughts?
Thanks! Have a great day, Elodie
Thirty years ago, I traveled to Zanzibar (Tanzania) with my children. Since I’ve since started a new family, I took the opportunity of a trip to Kenya to bring my new family along: my wife, who’s Kenyan, and my 10-year-old daughter.
Zanzibar has really changed in 30 years.
It’s become the island of taxes.
It all starts upon arrival: I think it’s the only country in the world, besides the visa, where Zanzibar insurance (and no other) is mandatory—it costs 40 €. If you didn’t purchase it before arriving, good luck getting it: the IT systems are unreliable. With a bit of luck, it’ll take at least an hour to process! And of course, this insurance is useless—if you get sick, it’s recommended to use your home country’s insurance because if you use Zanzibar’s, your national insurance won’t cover you anymore.
I wanted to show my daughter the red colobus monkey, which is endemic to Zanzibar. I paid for a tour that was supposed to be all-inclusive. First, we visited a spice farm, where a farm guide took charge of us—meaning commissions were involved, of course! The tour was very good and informative, though. When we arrived at Jenzhi Park (the colobus park), the guide told us he "forgot" there was an entrance fee (50$).
Aware of the system, I decided to book an Ocean Blue tour through the Zanzibar Tourism Office. After two hours of driving, we stopped at a beach—and were left there. No boat was ready to take us. Since my wife speaks Swahili (the language in Zanzibar), after an hour, a captain with his own boat agreed to take us along with his family.
Another attempt. The main attraction in Zanzibar (besides the city) is Changuu, the Prison Island. You have to take a motorboat and pay the captain, which is normal.
But in Zanzibar, to even get on a boat, you first have to pay a tax! Once we arrived at the island, it started all over again! Thirty years ago, access was free, and the entire island (about 1 km²) was open. Today, there’s a small office, and you have to pay a hefty fee to enter. But enter where? A paved path leads to about 15% of the island—the rest is off-limits. In total, I paid 100 € for my wife, daughter, and myself just to visit a tiny portion of the island! Avoid this!
For the rest of our stay, we stayed at a 5-star hotel with golf, horseback riding, tennis courts, evening concerts, etc.—undeniably high-level comfort. One last thing: if you want to rent a car, it’s affordable and useful for exploring the island’s diverse landscapes, but there are speed cameras at every corner on the main roads. The fine is supposedly 100 $, and it’s hard not to get one!
I told you: Zanzibar, the land of taxes. I used to think my country, Belgium, was the tax champion—I’ve found something even better!
Hi there,
I’m looking for a French-speaking agency that organizes safaris in Tanzania.
Any recommendations?
I’ve been in touch with Asanterra, but I haven’t found any reviews about this company.
Cheers,
Any recommendations?
I’ve been in touch with Asanterra, but I haven’t found any reviews about this company.
Cheers,
Hi everyone,
We’re revising our travel plans for January 2027. Originally, we were considering Uganda for about 14/15 days, but given the current health situation and the restrictions that might affect my partner, who’s American, we’ve decided to switch to Tanzania instead.
I’m used to traveling in South Africa and organizing my trips myself, but I get the impression that planning a safari in Tanzania is quite different.
I know self-drive isn’t really an option in Tanzania. So my main question is: can you organize your own itinerary and book lodges directly, then hire a local driver-guide? Or is it better to go through a local agency that handles the entire safari?
For the itinerary, which parks would you recommend for a first-time visit in January? Serengeti, Ngorongoro, Tarangire, Manyara, Ruaha, Arusha, Selous…
We’d also like to include Zanzibar to end the trip with a few days at the beach. Over 14/15 days, does that sound realistic or too ambitious?
Finally, for flights, is it better to arrive at Kilimanjaro (JRO) or Dar es Salaam (DAR) based on the itinerary we’re considering?
Thanks in advance for your feedback, especially on the best way to organize the safari and which parks to prioritize in January!
Hello,
A must-read for anyone planning to travel to Kenya or Tanzania in the coming months.
https://www.corsematin.com/article/francemonde/70999544524516/lonu-prevoit-un-el-nino-de-tres-forte-intensite-ces-cinq-prochains-mois
In Nov./Dec. 2022, I went on a safari in the region and we suffered from the extreme temperatures caused by the "El Niño" phenomenon in the Indian Ocean at that time. On top of the extreme heat, there can be torrential rains, flooding, etc., which have led to disasters with casualties.
Worth keeping in mind (just in case).
Best regards, ...
A must-read for anyone planning to travel to Kenya or Tanzania in the coming months.
https://www.corsematin.com/article/francemonde/70999544524516/lonu-prevoit-un-el-nino-de-tres-forte-intensite-ces-cinq-prochains-mois
In Nov./Dec. 2022, I went on a safari in the region and we suffered from the extreme temperatures caused by the "El Niño" phenomenon in the Indian Ocean at that time. On top of the extreme heat, there can be torrential rains, flooding, etc., which have led to disasters with casualties.
Worth keeping in mind (just in case).
Best regards, ...
Hi there,
We're now just 5 weeks away from our trip to South Africa 🙂 and *so* excited to explore (just a tiny bit of) this amazing country. I need to buy some binoculars but have no idea which model to choose. I don’t really know what to look for (and I don’t want to spend too much). Thanks in advance to anyone who can give me some tips!
Françoise
We're now just 5 weeks away from our trip to South Africa 🙂 and *so* excited to explore (just a tiny bit of) this amazing country. I need to buy some binoculars but have no idea which model to choose. I don’t really know what to look for (and I don’t want to spend too much). Thanks in advance to anyone who can give me some tips!
Françoise
We just got back from ten days in Tanzania. We were lucky enough to be guided by Gishaman. Always in a great mood, a good driver, and an excellent guide. Thanks to him, we not only saw the Big Five in one day but also loads of other animals. He works for the local agency Blit Safaris, which provided excellent support throughout our trip. Highly recommended!
Hi there,
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
Hi everyone!
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes. I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks). Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate. Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross. Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head. Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes: Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek? At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge? There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes. I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks). Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate. Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross. Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head. Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes: Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek? At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge? There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
hi
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls. I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions. I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali. Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha. I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4. Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Thanks for your tips and feedback!
Rachel
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls. I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions. I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali. Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha. I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4. Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Thanks for your tips and feedback!
Rachel
Jambo! I organized my trip through this kind of group, so I thought I’d share my experience here. We traveled as a group of four, including two kids aged 9 and 11. After requesting around twenty quotes, I decided to book the safari portion with MAKING MEMORIES IN AFRICA. Ally responded quickly and listened to all my requests—unlike other agencies—such as having a French-speaking guide, the order of park visits (Tarangire, Manyara, Serengeti, then Ngorongoro), and a mix of budget hotels and camping to keep costs down. There were still four agencies in the running, and price was the deciding factor. Even though they were the cheapest, I felt better taken care of than with others. For example, all meals were prepared by a Maasai chef, Louis, who accompanied us throughout the trip, while some others ate meals out of cardboard boxes. Samuel, our guide, explained so many things and answered all our questions. José drove us safely the whole way. Everything was done with great cheer!
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
Hi there,
Hope the pros are on the lookout!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
Hi there,
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Thanks,
David
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Thanks,
David
Hi,
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
Hi there,
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
Hi everyone!
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
Hi everyone!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
Hi
Any feedback on the agency Mon Guide Zanzibar?
Hi everyone,
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Hello,
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy