Mon mari et moi revenons de trois semaines passées au Botswana et en Zambie (South Luangwa) et nous n'avons qu'une envie: repartir au plus vite! Nous envisageons cette fois de faire le Zimbabwe (Hwange, Matusadona et Mana Pools) et de finir par le parc du Lower Zambezi en Zambie (jute en face de celui de Mana Pools). La question est la suivante: est-ce possible de passer la frontière (le Zambèze) à cet endroit? Merci d'avance pour vos réponses et conseils.
Parcs de Zambie et du Zimbabwe
by Mango12
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Salut,
Mon mari et moi revenons de trois semaines passées au Botswana et en Zambie (South Luangwa) et nous n'avons qu'une envie: repartir au plus vite! Nous envisageons cette fois de faire le Zimbabwe (Hwange, Matusadona et Mana Pools) et de finir par le parc du Lower Zambezi en Zambie (jute en face de celui de Mana Pools). La question est la suivante: est-ce possible de passer la frontière (le Zambèze) à cet endroit? Merci d'avance pour vos réponses et conseils.
Mon mari et moi revenons de trois semaines passées au Botswana et en Zambie (South Luangwa) et nous n'avons qu'une envie: repartir au plus vite! Nous envisageons cette fois de faire le Zimbabwe (Hwange, Matusadona et Mana Pools) et de finir par le parc du Lower Zambezi en Zambie (jute en face de celui de Mana Pools). La question est la suivante: est-ce possible de passer la frontière (le Zambèze) à cet endroit? Merci d'avance pour vos réponses et conseils.
Bonjour,
Le passage du Zimbabwe à la Zambie ne peux pas se faire entre le deux parcs directement, il faut en ressortir pour cela. Le chemin de plus court se fera en traversant le Zambèze à Chirundu puis via Lusaka (pas sur qu'il y ai plus direct). On peut aussi traverser au niveau du barrage de Kariba. ça vaut vraiment le détour: le lac, les collines, la faune et le barrage biensur.
une question me trote dans la tête. L'essence c'est un problème au Zimbabwe. Je ne vois pas trop comment vous allez engager la traversée Hwange-Binga-Matusadona-Karoi-Mana Pools! Il y a peu de stations (aucune entre Binga et Karoi et la première n'est pas toujours approvisionée). Il faudra bien préparer ça. Reste que Matusadona est réputé être un superbe parc mais quasi inaccessible actuellement. le mieux est encore de s'y rendre en bateau depuis Kariba ou Spurwing island.
Si vous avez besoins d'autres conseils, faites signe!
Alex
Le passage du Zimbabwe à la Zambie ne peux pas se faire entre le deux parcs directement, il faut en ressortir pour cela. Le chemin de plus court se fera en traversant le Zambèze à Chirundu puis via Lusaka (pas sur qu'il y ai plus direct). On peut aussi traverser au niveau du barrage de Kariba. ça vaut vraiment le détour: le lac, les collines, la faune et le barrage biensur.
une question me trote dans la tête. L'essence c'est un problème au Zimbabwe. Je ne vois pas trop comment vous allez engager la traversée Hwange-Binga-Matusadona-Karoi-Mana Pools! Il y a peu de stations (aucune entre Binga et Karoi et la première n'est pas toujours approvisionée). Il faudra bien préparer ça. Reste que Matusadona est réputé être un superbe parc mais quasi inaccessible actuellement. le mieux est encore de s'y rendre en bateau depuis Kariba ou Spurwing island.
Si vous avez besoins d'autres conseils, faites signe!
Alex
Bonjour,
Merci pour toutes ces précisions.
Effectivement, la situation actuelle semble compliquée pour organiser un voyage au Zimbabwe en solo et en 4x4. C'est pourquoi nous souhaiterions passer par un TO en effectuant des transferts entre les parcs par avion (à moins que cela soit également problématique pour ces compagnies pro d'avoir accès à l'essence ?).
Avez vous des suggestions de TO proposant des voyages intégrales (tansferts, lodges, safaris) à travers Hwange, Matusadona, Mana Pools, Lower Zambezi (ou éventuellement d'autres parcs/réserves à suggérer, nous débutons notre recherche) ?
Merci pour toutes ces précisions.
Effectivement, la situation actuelle semble compliquée pour organiser un voyage au Zimbabwe en solo et en 4x4. C'est pourquoi nous souhaiterions passer par un TO en effectuant des transferts entre les parcs par avion (à moins que cela soit également problématique pour ces compagnies pro d'avoir accès à l'essence ?).
Avez vous des suggestions de TO proposant des voyages intégrales (tansferts, lodges, safaris) à travers Hwange, Matusadona, Mana Pools, Lower Zambezi (ou éventuellement d'autres parcs/réserves à suggérer, nous débutons notre recherche) ?
Comme tour operator je connais www.sikiliza.com basé à Harare. www.safarivotre.com géré par une amie propose quant à lui des séjours sur mesure mais principalement en camping, mais je suis sur qu'ils pourraient organiser ce trajet et des nuits en lodge.
Pour les autres parcs, il y a Chizarira NP entre Hwange et Matusadona (surement le plus isolé de tous les parcs, il n'y a d'ailleurs qu'un seul lodge là bas www.chizlodge.com) Le Gonarezhou NP au Sud Est est la continuité du Kruger sud africain, parcontre c'est de l'autre côté du pays. Sinon pour autre chose que la faune et surtout pour les randos je vous recommande: Nyanga NP et surtout Chimanimani NP (pour y faire du camping dans les grottes). Une idée sympa est de faire un safari en canoe entre Kariba et Mana Pools sur le moyen-zambèze. Par contre je ne suis pas sur de l'intéret de faire Lower Zambezi et Mana Pools. La faune et les paysages seront similaires je pense (mais pas été côté zambien). En effet toutes les pistes de Mana pools longent le Zambèze et ne rentre pas dans les terres ou peu et je suppose que côté zambien c'est la même chose. Surtout côté zimbabwéen on admire les collines zambiennes, alors que sur l'autre rive la vue ne doit pas être aussi belle.
Bonne recherche en tous cas
Pour les autres parcs, il y a Chizarira NP entre Hwange et Matusadona (surement le plus isolé de tous les parcs, il n'y a d'ailleurs qu'un seul lodge là bas www.chizlodge.com) Le Gonarezhou NP au Sud Est est la continuité du Kruger sud africain, parcontre c'est de l'autre côté du pays. Sinon pour autre chose que la faune et surtout pour les randos je vous recommande: Nyanga NP et surtout Chimanimani NP (pour y faire du camping dans les grottes). Une idée sympa est de faire un safari en canoe entre Kariba et Mana Pools sur le moyen-zambèze. Par contre je ne suis pas sur de l'intéret de faire Lower Zambezi et Mana Pools. La faune et les paysages seront similaires je pense (mais pas été côté zambien). En effet toutes les pistes de Mana pools longent le Zambèze et ne rentre pas dans les terres ou peu et je suppose que côté zambien c'est la même chose. Surtout côté zimbabwéen on admire les collines zambiennes, alors que sur l'autre rive la vue ne doit pas être aussi belle.
Bonne recherche en tous cas
Bonjour,
Je suis en train de réfléchir sur un autre voyage en Afrique australe. La Zambie fait partie de mes options, peux tu nous en dire un petit peu sur ce que tu as vécu et aimé....fait nous rêver...😛
Merci
Bonjour,
Eh bien comme dis plus haut, nous revenons de notre voyage (de noce) au Botswana avec extension Zambie et Mozambique. Nous avons fais en Zambie :les chutes victoria (un classique): à faire l'Encounter Lion. une expérience assez unique durant laquelle tu approches, caresses de jeunes lions qui ont entre 6 et 9 mois (jeunes mais déjà bien équipés question canines et griffes, mais se rassurer 3 guides vous accompagnent). Cela reste un peu touristique et pas bon marché. Mais pour se donner bonne conscience, cette activité s'inscrit dans un programme de conservation de la faune où les jeunes lions orphelins sont reintroduits à l'état sauvage après 2 ans de suiviparc du South Luangwa (Nkwali Camp): 3 jours de safaris avec Robin Pope (équipe et lodge fabuleux). Le parc est tout simplement magnifique, des paysages alternant marais, fôrets de mopanes, saussage tree, baobab, collines (un coucher de soleil mémorable sur une colline, je n'ai plus le nom, une vue imprenable sur le parc à couper le souffle). Côté faune, une abondance, on trouve quasiment tous les grands mammifères à l'exception du Rhino et du guépard : éléphants, giraffes de Thornicroft endémique au parc, crocos, hippopotames (lu comme étant la + grande concentration en afrique), zèbres, antilopes (puku, impala, waterbuck, bushbuck, koudous, gnous), lions, léopards (grande concentration, cependant animal qui nous a fui au botswana et jusqu'à la dernière heure de notre dernier safari au south luangwa), lycaons (que nous avons eu la chance de voir à plusieurs reprises), hyènes.
Activités possibles pour l'observation de la faune: game walk, game drive, night drive. Les guides (contrairement au Botswana) ne s'appellent pas. Avantage ou inconvénient ? On peut très bien revenir presque bredouille d'un safari, tout comme avoir vu, sans aucun autre 4x4 autour, un pack de lycaon marchant, jouant, courrant, ...
Enfin bref, un parc somptueux, encore peu fréquenté (comme toute la zambie, cela ne va peut être pas durer). J'arrête les superlatifs, cela va peut être donner envie à trop de monde 😉
Eh bien comme dis plus haut, nous revenons de notre voyage (de noce) au Botswana avec extension Zambie et Mozambique. Nous avons fais en Zambie :les chutes victoria (un classique): à faire l'Encounter Lion. une expérience assez unique durant laquelle tu approches, caresses de jeunes lions qui ont entre 6 et 9 mois (jeunes mais déjà bien équipés question canines et griffes, mais se rassurer 3 guides vous accompagnent). Cela reste un peu touristique et pas bon marché. Mais pour se donner bonne conscience, cette activité s'inscrit dans un programme de conservation de la faune où les jeunes lions orphelins sont reintroduits à l'état sauvage après 2 ans de suiviparc du South Luangwa (Nkwali Camp): 3 jours de safaris avec Robin Pope (équipe et lodge fabuleux). Le parc est tout simplement magnifique, des paysages alternant marais, fôrets de mopanes, saussage tree, baobab, collines (un coucher de soleil mémorable sur une colline, je n'ai plus le nom, une vue imprenable sur le parc à couper le souffle). Côté faune, une abondance, on trouve quasiment tous les grands mammifères à l'exception du Rhino et du guépard : éléphants, giraffes de Thornicroft endémique au parc, crocos, hippopotames (lu comme étant la + grande concentration en afrique), zèbres, antilopes (puku, impala, waterbuck, bushbuck, koudous, gnous), lions, léopards (grande concentration, cependant animal qui nous a fui au botswana et jusqu'à la dernière heure de notre dernier safari au south luangwa), lycaons (que nous avons eu la chance de voir à plusieurs reprises), hyènes.
Activités possibles pour l'observation de la faune: game walk, game drive, night drive. Les guides (contrairement au Botswana) ne s'appellent pas. Avantage ou inconvénient ? On peut très bien revenir presque bredouille d'un safari, tout comme avoir vu, sans aucun autre 4x4 autour, un pack de lycaon marchant, jouant, courrant, ...
Enfin bref, un parc somptueux, encore peu fréquenté (comme toute la zambie, cela ne va peut être pas durer). J'arrête les superlatifs, cela va peut être donner envie à trop de monde 😉
bonjour Mango
eh bien nous nous partons pour la zambie et tanzanie le 20 septembre prochain on se pose a Vic Falls
donc avant de répondre a tes interrogations le Zimbabwe que nous avons fait il y a euh .... 4 ans déja en stop puis en self drive .
bon finalement jecommence par ceci
tu peut faire avec 4 *4 garde haute Vic Falls to Kariba par la route qui longe le lac compter 5 jours . automnie complete tu peux faire un peu d'esence a mi chemin mais 300 % du prix , avec 120 litres tu traverse .
hawange superbe , compte deux nuit toris jours en solo , assez facile a faire , prendre les autorisations a Vic FALLS .
Mana pool , formidable mais je pense que cette année nous allons voir la meme chose a lower zambezi . tu prends permis et autorisation a kariba .
pour le passage frontiere Chirundu zimbabwe le poste de formalité se trouve presque une centaine de kilometre avant le passage , attends je regardes sur la carte vers makuti 70 km .
voila mais bon les problemes politique et d'approvisionnement rende ce pays compliqué. mais si tu veux bien je te donnerai des infos plus fraiches au retour ou bien pendant notre trip .
pour ma part
avez vous eu besoins d'un GPS pour south luanga ?
avez vous étés à Kafue , si oui même questions ?
quels est le prix du gazoil en ce moment ?
et derniere questions es ce que vous avez utiliser des dollars ou bien des euros ou encore seulmement la monnnaie locale?
au bostwana avez vous fait la traverse Maun Kasane ? superbe souvenir nous l'avons fait par deux fois .
en attente de vos réponses merci par avance fred
au bostwana avez vous fait la traverse Maun Kasane ? superbe souvenir nous l'avons fait par deux fois .
en attente de vos réponses merci par avance fred
Bonjour Fredvero,
Tout d'abord merci pour tes infos zimbabwéennes. Concernant tes 3 premières questions, nous ne pourrons pas beaucoup t'aider, nous ne sommes pas partis en self-drive (ni à Kafue). Le South Luangwa est un grand parc, cependant c'est surtout la partie est (plus particulièrement centre-est) qui est riche en faune, et par conséquent les zones où sont implantés lodges et campings. Donc peut être qu'avec une bonne carte, cela peut suffir... Pour ta 4ème question, oui, le dollar est accepté, et je pense partout. En revanche, l'euro ne doit être accepté que dans les structures hotelières (voire restaurant). Sinon, il ya effectivement la monnaie locale, le kwacha (1$= 4200 Kwacha en juillet09).
Nous serons friands d'infos sur les différents parcs de zambie car nous souhaitons refaire ce pays (voire faire tout court, n'étant allés qu'au South Luangwa)....
Slt. Ségo et vivien
Tout d'abord merci pour tes infos zimbabwéennes. Concernant tes 3 premières questions, nous ne pourrons pas beaucoup t'aider, nous ne sommes pas partis en self-drive (ni à Kafue). Le South Luangwa est un grand parc, cependant c'est surtout la partie est (plus particulièrement centre-est) qui est riche en faune, et par conséquent les zones où sont implantés lodges et campings. Donc peut être qu'avec une bonne carte, cela peut suffir... Pour ta 4ème question, oui, le dollar est accepté, et je pense partout. En revanche, l'euro ne doit être accepté que dans les structures hotelières (voire restaurant). Sinon, il ya effectivement la monnaie locale, le kwacha (1$= 4200 Kwacha en juillet09).
Nous serons friands d'infos sur les différents parcs de zambie car nous souhaitons refaire ce pays (voire faire tout court, n'étant allés qu'au South Luangwa)....
Slt. Ségo et vivien
eh bien nous nous partons pour la zambie et tanzanie le 20 septembre prochain on se pose a Vic Falls...
Bonjour, Pouvez-vous me faire partager votre expérience sur la Zambie : quels parcs avez-vous préféré ? Et notamment qu'avez-vous pensé de Kafue (que j'envisage aussi...), en vaut-il vraiment la peine... Par avance merci !
Bonjour, Pouvez-vous me faire partager votre expérience sur la Zambie : quels parcs avez-vous préféré ? Et notamment qu'avez-vous pensé de Kafue (que j'envisage aussi...), en vaut-il vraiment la peine... Par avance merci !
bonsoir a tous les voyageurs
une infos avant de repondre a corinne
si vous devez louer un vehicule equipé, ne pas louer chez BUSHLORE
assistance quasi inexistante, vehicule non préparé, surtout pour la zambie,
nous avions louer lors de notre premier viree africaine chez Britz CAR , tout eatit parfait , mais cette année nous avons parcourrus la Tanzanie en self drive est c'etait impossible avec eux .
corinne
Kafue trop braconnée durant de longue année, les animaux sont tres sauvage ( normale ) mais même avec notre 600 mm canon on a eu du mal, les paysages sont superbe cela console. su tu veux faire ton parcourts malgres tout , faites le nord Kafue, un camping extra, internet hot spot piszcine resto electricite garage , rester deux nuits c'est pas mal, puis sortait du parc a droite de Busanga Plaine, direction Kasampa Solwezi,
si vous quitter le parc de north kafue et aller chimpanze orphelinat, pas de camping entre les deux, rien a solwezi que des guest houses, (notre part nous avons squatter un jardin de la police) mais si vous parter tres tot du parc vous pouvez arriver à l'orphelinat pour camper longue route mais c'est faisable,
visite obligatroire a Chimfushi Orphanage.
Lower Zambezi, tres beau, acces de Lusaka par Chirundu , NE PAS PRENDRE LA PISTEde lusaka a chiawa ( l'enfer ) même avec le land rover
tres beau , mais nous avons preferez Mana pools son frere jumeaux mais au zimbabwe.
les rives sont plus abrutes donc les animaux moins accessibles, camping au portes du parc ideal.
South Luangwa:
superbe prevoir trois nuits , cela vaut la peine , camping sypa en bord de riviere
superbe expereinece ^de leoprad avec ses bébés, de grand groupe de lions
North Luangwa
la pluie nous a compliqué notre circuit, mais superbe
La route des Cascades , Kasama Mansa fantatsiques , le lac tanganika extra
voilà si plus d'infos ne pas hesiter
bradt guide the best pour la zambie, carte routiere allemeande Hupe Verlagt Zambia
devises 1 € 6200 Kawacha Zambia , 1 litre diesel de 5500 a lusaka à 6300 dans le nord . une grande biere 4000 , le camping entre 10 et 20000 par personne
mais si votre budget vous le permet allez en tanzanie en self drive c'est unique, nous voyageons depuis 20 ans , mais cela restera une de nos plus belle experience
a+ cordialement votre
passés tous de bonne fête
Bonjour,
Je ne peux pas répondre à votre question par contre vous pouvez peut-être nous donner des infos concernant votre voyage au botswana et zambie. En effet, nous voulons nous y rendre l'année prochaine au mois d'août (nous serons 2 couples) et nous avons déjà nos billets pour arrivée et départ Johannesburg.
Est-il possible de faire les deux en 21 jours ? Connaissez-vous des guides ou organisateurs sur place ? Budget à prévoir au minimum? Quels sont les parcs à visiter principalement ?
et beaucoup d'autres questions si vous avez le temps de nous répondre. Merci d'avance, Salutations Valentine
Je ne peux pas répondre à votre question par contre vous pouvez peut-être nous donner des infos concernant votre voyage au botswana et zambie. En effet, nous voulons nous y rendre l'année prochaine au mois d'août (nous serons 2 couples) et nous avons déjà nos billets pour arrivée et départ Johannesburg.
Est-il possible de faire les deux en 21 jours ? Connaissez-vous des guides ou organisateurs sur place ? Budget à prévoir au minimum? Quels sont les parcs à visiter principalement ?
et beaucoup d'autres questions si vous avez le temps de nous répondre. Merci d'avance, Salutations Valentine
Bonjour,
Nous voudrions aller au Botswana & Zambie 3 semaines au mois aôut 2010. Pouvez-vous nous conseiller et nous donner quelques infos (que voir en particulier, agences locales, parcs, ...) Nous avons déjà nos billets pour Johannesburg Merci pour votre réponse Cordialement Valentine : vale.jean@wanadoo.fr
Nous voudrions aller au Botswana & Zambie 3 semaines au mois aôut 2010. Pouvez-vous nous conseiller et nous donner quelques infos (que voir en particulier, agences locales, parcs, ...) Nous avons déjà nos billets pour Johannesburg Merci pour votre réponse Cordialement Valentine : vale.jean@wanadoo.fr
Bonjour,
Désolé mais notre dernière connexion à VF remonte à très longtemps.
Nous étions partis au Botswana et en Zambie pour notre voyage de noces, nous avions du coup, priviligié "confort et luxe". Nous ne connaissons pas vraiment d'agence locale mais notre voyagiste français passait par XO Africa, un tour operator d'afrique australe. Le voyage était tout simplement fantastique. Ce TO passait lui même par une compagnie au Botswana pour les lodges (Desert & Delta) et Robin Pope Safaris en Zambie (South Luangwa). Chaque lodge et compagnie a ses propres guides. A part les lodges (qui sont magnifiques mais chères), il ya également le camping. Nous avions rencontrés dans un lodge des personnes qui passait par BushWay : une compagnie qui propose les services d'un guide-chauffeur qui vous accompagne tout au long du périple. Ils privilégient les nuits en camping mais combine parfois avec des lodges.
Nous avons fais les parcs et réserves suivantes:
1/ Delta Okavango (section Xugana) située au Nord : un "camp d'eau" immergé toute l'année, paradis des oiseaux, très romantique. Même si nous avons eu de la chance de voir lors d'un safari à pied un troupeau de buffles et d'éléphants, cette partie du Delta n'est pas la plus "fournie" en animaux terrestres.
2/ Réserve de Moremi : des paysages magnifiques (bush, marais) et une faune très très abondante. Avons eu la chance de voir lycaons, lions, buffles et "bien évidemment" éléphants, hippos, antilopes (impalas, lechwes, waterbuck et quelques rares Koudous), babouins, girafes, ....
3/ Parc de Chobe section Savute : paysages beaucoup plus ouverts et secs que Moremi, a son charme aussi, pays des éléphants, notre lodge était à 30 mètres d'un point d'eau où venait des dizaines d'éléphants (parfois même des centaines quand l'eau se rarifiait). Un endroit où l'on peut avoir la chance de voir des guépards au Botswana (que nous n'avons pas vus)
4/ Parc de Chobe section Riverfront: section où l'on fait des safaris bateaux le long du fleuve Chobe, une expérience différente des safaris en 4x4, vous verrez des éléphants venir s'abreuver et se baigner dans le fleuve.
5/ South Luangwa en Zambie: extraordinaire, splendide. La Zambie est peut être encore un peu plus sauvage que le Botswana et moins touristique. De très beaux pysages, une faune très très abondante et variée (nous avons pu voir le léopard qui nous fuyait depuis 2 semaines).
Des parcs à faire également en Zambie: North Luangwa (encore plus inaccessible), Lower Zambezi, Kafue, peut être d'autres (nous ne sommes pas du tout expert) et au Botswana : section Linyanti à Chobe, Makgadigadi (août n'est peut être pas le meilleur mois), dans le Delta (essayez de faire un "camp d'eau" et un "camp de terre") . Vous ne pourrez pas tout faire mais nous vous conseillons de passer au mois 2/3 nuits par endroit. J'allais oublié, passer par les chutes, cela vaut plus que le détour. Chaque saisonn et chaque mois à ses spécificités mais Août est un très bon mois pour l'observation de la faune (milieu de la saison sèche), les nuits se réchauffent par rapport à Juillet, pas trop de moustiques.
Espérant vous avoir aidé Usez des guides de lecture notamment le BRADT.
Ségolène et Vivien
Désolé mais notre dernière connexion à VF remonte à très longtemps.
Nous étions partis au Botswana et en Zambie pour notre voyage de noces, nous avions du coup, priviligié "confort et luxe". Nous ne connaissons pas vraiment d'agence locale mais notre voyagiste français passait par XO Africa, un tour operator d'afrique australe. Le voyage était tout simplement fantastique. Ce TO passait lui même par une compagnie au Botswana pour les lodges (Desert & Delta) et Robin Pope Safaris en Zambie (South Luangwa). Chaque lodge et compagnie a ses propres guides. A part les lodges (qui sont magnifiques mais chères), il ya également le camping. Nous avions rencontrés dans un lodge des personnes qui passait par BushWay : une compagnie qui propose les services d'un guide-chauffeur qui vous accompagne tout au long du périple. Ils privilégient les nuits en camping mais combine parfois avec des lodges.
Nous avons fais les parcs et réserves suivantes:
1/ Delta Okavango (section Xugana) située au Nord : un "camp d'eau" immergé toute l'année, paradis des oiseaux, très romantique. Même si nous avons eu de la chance de voir lors d'un safari à pied un troupeau de buffles et d'éléphants, cette partie du Delta n'est pas la plus "fournie" en animaux terrestres.
2/ Réserve de Moremi : des paysages magnifiques (bush, marais) et une faune très très abondante. Avons eu la chance de voir lycaons, lions, buffles et "bien évidemment" éléphants, hippos, antilopes (impalas, lechwes, waterbuck et quelques rares Koudous), babouins, girafes, ....
3/ Parc de Chobe section Savute : paysages beaucoup plus ouverts et secs que Moremi, a son charme aussi, pays des éléphants, notre lodge était à 30 mètres d'un point d'eau où venait des dizaines d'éléphants (parfois même des centaines quand l'eau se rarifiait). Un endroit où l'on peut avoir la chance de voir des guépards au Botswana (que nous n'avons pas vus)
4/ Parc de Chobe section Riverfront: section où l'on fait des safaris bateaux le long du fleuve Chobe, une expérience différente des safaris en 4x4, vous verrez des éléphants venir s'abreuver et se baigner dans le fleuve.
5/ South Luangwa en Zambie: extraordinaire, splendide. La Zambie est peut être encore un peu plus sauvage que le Botswana et moins touristique. De très beaux pysages, une faune très très abondante et variée (nous avons pu voir le léopard qui nous fuyait depuis 2 semaines).
Des parcs à faire également en Zambie: North Luangwa (encore plus inaccessible), Lower Zambezi, Kafue, peut être d'autres (nous ne sommes pas du tout expert) et au Botswana : section Linyanti à Chobe, Makgadigadi (août n'est peut être pas le meilleur mois), dans le Delta (essayez de faire un "camp d'eau" et un "camp de terre") . Vous ne pourrez pas tout faire mais nous vous conseillons de passer au mois 2/3 nuits par endroit. J'allais oublié, passer par les chutes, cela vaut plus que le détour. Chaque saisonn et chaque mois à ses spécificités mais Août est un très bon mois pour l'observation de la faune (milieu de la saison sèche), les nuits se réchauffent par rapport à Juillet, pas trop de moustiques.
Espérant vous avoir aidé Usez des guides de lecture notamment le BRADT.
Ségolène et Vivien
Bonjour,
J'ai déjà visité de nombreux pays en afrique et suis interrésé par la zambie, quels sont les parc à visités, hébergements, et les possibilités de rallier la namibie par la route????
Je précise que je voyage avec 2 enfants de 5 et 3 ans et on recherche surtout les naimaux plus que les paysages en tant que tel.
amicalement
Squal
Bonjour, Vous semblez avoir visité le Parc du North Luangwa récemment. Il est extrêmement difficile d'obtenir des infos sur ce parc. En Août, nous aurons un 4x4 équipé camping avec la tente sur le toit et serons seuls (2 pers.). Nous pensions camper à Chifunda, faire des guided walks etc .... puis continuer vers le nord du parc pour sortir à Mano Gate. Nous avons plusieurs questions : Chifunda est-il ouvert ? Est-on autorisé à traverser le parc en individuel ? Est-ce faisable en solo ? (nous avons déjà visité précédemment les parcs du Botswana : Chobe, Moremi .....). La piste Est-Nord est-elle équivalente, plus difficile ?
Nous serions aux anges si vous aviez la gentillesse de répondre à ces questions car même à l'office du tourisme zambien on ne nous répond pas ; en fait, les e-mails nous reviennent "undelivered". Merci d'avance.
J & PSD
J & PSD
bonsoir pour repondre a vos questions
oui chifunda était ouvert lors de notre passage, oui vous pouvez rentre en solo
attention self suffisnce en gazoil et le reste bien sur .
oui pour la traverser du parc individuel .
il faut savoir que pour nous vus d'europe c'est compliqué a organiser, mais sur place on rencontre quelques sud africains qui eux ont une multitudes d'infos sur l'etat des pistes les points d'eaux etc . il faut aller sur le site www.4*4comunnity.co.sa
là vous trouverai beaucoup d'infos .
a chipata au camping Mama rulas c'est aussi un bon repere pour les groupes de 4*4 sud africains , ok c'est bondés mais intérréssants pour les infos .
pour la carte routiere utiliser la Hupe VERLAGT zambia BY mANFRFRED VACHAL www.hupeverlag.de
pour votre dernier question , je ne la comprends pas .
quelle est votre trip ? avec qui louer votre véhicule ? combien de temps partez vous ?
en attente
fred
Merci beaucoup de votre réponse rapide et de vos précieuses infos.
Pour ce qui est de la dernière question, désolé, je me suis très mal exprimé. Quand je parle de la piste Est-Nord, je parle de celle qui traverse le parc de Chifunda à Mano Gate. Je voudrais simplement savoir si elle est bonne, moyenne, mauvaise ou très mauvaise. C'est la raison pour laquelle je faisais réf aux pistes des parcs du Botswana que j'ai déjà expérimentées.
En fait, nous avons un mois complet. Nous partirons de Windhoek en Namibie et rejoindrons la Zambie par la Bande de Caprivi. Au retour, nous en profiterons pour visiter la partie Nord-Ouest de la Namibie que nous ne connaissons pas. Nous avons loué chez African Sun à Windhoek.
Nous avons étudié les possibilités d'hébergement dans les parcs zambiens, et dans le Lower Zambezi notamment, nous trouvons cela extrêmement cher. Tous les meilleurs endroits sont occupés par des lodges hors de prix et il semble que le seul camping où nous puissions poser notre 4x4 soit le Gwabi Lodge (11 km après Chirundu). C'est bien dommage. Nous aurions bien aimé rester un peu en brousse une nuit ou 2 mais impossible, nous n'avons rien trouvé. Les lodges à 898 USD/pers/nuit, ça n'est pas pour nous .....
Merci d'avance de vos infos sur l'état de la piste Est-Nord.
J & PSD
Merci d'avance de vos infos sur l'état de la piste Est-Nord.
J & PSD
bonsoir
en un mois c'est chaud de windhoek et retour
nord ouest namibie fantastique, opuwo epupa , twelfontein, sestriem etc
bande de caprivi, nous avons fait la route du botswana Rundu Namibie par SHAKAWE. le parc de mahengo rien de fantastique mais camping proche de DIVUNDU
ne manquer pas de dormir a cette endroit www.ngepi-camp.com
toujours dans la bande Caprivi NP Mamili superbe pour les oiseaux un (petit oKavango) ne pas le faire si il a plu car trés vite inondés, et danger assurés parc tres peu fréquenté , il faut payer a 20 km avant l'entrée du parc sur la main road de caprivi .
en zambie
Liun Plain mémorable mais il faut du temps
les chimpanzés de Chimfumshi inoubliable
NP KAFUE cela ne vaut pas la peine encore trop braconné en autre par les ouvriers chinois qui bosse sur les cahntiers de route.
mais le nord est un peu plus actifs en faune
Lower Zambezi nous avons été déçu , mais nous avions un souvenirs grand à Mana Pools au Zimbawe , les Berges sont trop abrutes alors que à mana pools se sont des plages douces .
vous pouvez dormir à l'exterieur du parc de LOWER un camp qui se trouve 30 minute de la gate ah j'ai oublié le nom a ca y est community camp , pas cher pas de douche juste des une fosses seche mais tres agreables .
a lower zambezi vous pouvez faire la piste CHIAWA chongwe musangashi
DANS la journée tout le monde vous dira que ce n'est pas possible mais oui c'est possible il 6 heures , parfois des gens vous disent 12 heures mais en faite il ne le savent paseux même c'est vraiment 6 heure attention le départ de la piste est difficile a toruver mais avec un GPS c'est ok piste dur en conduite des cols tres pentu .
mais c'est le top pour partir vers South Luangwa .
je dois vous laisser
on se tient au courant
mais pourquoi North Luangwa ?
ce ne'st pas notre meileurs spot animal et beaucoup de contarinte pour pas un resultat tres probant ....
a + fred
Super vos infos ! Merci bcp, vraiment. Votre avis va nous inciter à modifier notre programme. Les rares personnes qui ont fait des commentaires sur le North Luangwa disent que c'est la "perle de la Zambie", alors nous ne voulions pas rater "la perle".....
Pareil pour la piste Chiawa-Chongwe, on avait lu que c'était un "enfer", mais du coup on est plus rassurés. Connaissez-vous la région Nord de la Zambie entre North Luangwa et la frontière Tanzanienne ? Si oui, quel est votre avis ? Personne n'en parle.
En ce qui concerne la partie Namibienne, nous avions déjà bien "écumé" la Namibie lors d'un voyage précédent et en fait, nous voulons surtout nous concentrer sur la partie assez restreinte allant de l'ouest d'Etosha à la frontière angolaise, incluant la région Himba etc .... et comme les pistes namibiennes sont très "confortables", nous pensons que c'est faisable a priori dans le temps dont nous disposons.
Il est très difficile de construire un bon circuit même en consultant tous les avis et commentaires, car chacun a sa sensibilité, les moyens financiers sont très différents, et la période du voyage compte aussi beaucoup. Nous essayons également d'avoir des avis récents comme le vôtre.
Merci encore. We'll keep in touch !
J & PSD
J & PSD
bonsoir
c'est vari que c'est la perle mais bon pour notre part nous avons était ravis des paysages mais les games ne fut pas vraiment a notre avantage.
nous venions de vivre des moments inoubliables dans south luawnga avec une femelle léopard transportant ces petits un à un , ouhhh ...
pour le nord , ah j'oubliai l'état de la piste mauvaise mais pas galére ...
pour le nord donc
nous nous sommes partis au malawi puis avons passer 45 jours en tanzanie le retour en Zambie c'est fait par la piste qui part de Mwanza en tanzanie rive lac victoria puis descent le long du Burundi
si quelqu'un visionne ce message ' attention la piste est trés mauvaise jusqu'a Kigoma , tres glissante , a ne pas faire par temps de pluie
nous avons mis 5 jours pour faire 1200 km .
donc nous sommes rentrer par ZOMBE Mbala FORMALIT2 DOUaniere
seulement à Mpulungu .
Tanganika Lake magique
si vous avez du temps aller faire la route des cascades de KASAMA à Serenge via Mansa .
des cascades superbes mais attention à la période Novembre vraiment pas bon
ne pas rater les becs à sabots dans NP BANGWEULU stay au SHOE BILL camp .
voilà
bonne soirée , nous nous sommes en préparation pour le Japon , si vous avez des bons plans .... merci
si vous avez besoins ++++ alors taper sur le clavier
ah le litre de diesiel en novembre 2009 0.83 €
a+ fred
Merci pour toutes ces nouvelles infos très intéressantes. Maintenant, nous devrions pouvoir établir un programme correct.
Très bonne soirée et bonnes prochaines vacances !
J & PSD
J & PSD
Salut !
est-ce que l'un d'entre vous s'est deja rendu au parc de Sioma Ngwesi, dans le sud-est de la Zambie ? Ca dit quoi ? Je cherche des infos sur les parcs a visiter dans le coin et personne sur le forum ne cite celui-la, pourtant pas loin des chutes vic et de Chobe...
merci d'avance..
est-ce que l'un d'entre vous s'est deja rendu au parc de Sioma Ngwesi, dans le sud-est de la Zambie ? Ca dit quoi ? Je cherche des infos sur les parcs a visiter dans le coin et personne sur le forum ne cite celui-la, pourtant pas loin des chutes vic et de Chobe...
merci d'avance..
bonsoir
je n'ai pas d'infos a te donner sur ce parc , car la partie est soit disant superbe mais le parc qui remporte tous les suffrages d'exceptionnel est le Liuwa plain parc mais en octobre novembre il est innondés et aps du tout recommandable a faire en solo .
pourquoi voulias vous allez dans ce parc ?
a+ fred
Je suis avec mon copain en Namibie.
On voyage en velo, la : voyage.jeremiebt.com
On part demain de Windhek et on compte arriver fin aout dans le coin de Livingstone, ou on a donne RDV a un peu de famille histoire qu'ils viennent nous rendre un peu visite durant nos deux annees de voyage, et qu'on puisse jouer un peu les touristes... On est plutot petit (tres petit) budget, et on n'aime pas trop le tourisme de masse... Disons que ca ne nous interesse pas de voir "la plus grande concentration d'elephants au monde" ou de faire la queue en voiture a Chobe pour prendre notre photo souvenir...on prefere largement quelque chose de moins gros, moins tape a l'oeil, je pense que si on voit ne serait-ce qu'une fois des elephants dans notre sejour, ce sera deja completement magique. J'essaie de trouver une alternative a Chobe... les animaux c'est les meme partout je pense...
On part demain de Windhek et on compte arriver fin aout dans le coin de Livingstone, ou on a donne RDV a un peu de famille histoire qu'ils viennent nous rendre un peu visite durant nos deux annees de voyage, et qu'on puisse jouer un peu les touristes... On est plutot petit (tres petit) budget, et on n'aime pas trop le tourisme de masse... Disons que ca ne nous interesse pas de voir "la plus grande concentration d'elephants au monde" ou de faire la queue en voiture a Chobe pour prendre notre photo souvenir...on prefere largement quelque chose de moins gros, moins tape a l'oeil, je pense que si on voit ne serait-ce qu'une fois des elephants dans notre sejour, ce sera deja completement magique. J'essaie de trouver une alternative a Chobe... les animaux c'est les meme partout je pense...
bonsoir
super grand trip en vélo , bravo , nous nous vous ecrivons de notre petit hotel dans les pyrenees sur la monté du col de peyresourde www.hotel.les.cimes.net d'ou là nous voyons un tourisme de masse en vélo eh oui a 4 jours du passge du tour ...
pour revenir a votre trip ..
a Maun vous allez trouvez d'avantage de choix pour oganiser un day trip dans okanvango ou bien et surtout moremi essayer chez Audi Camp c'est au nord est de Maun à 4 km du centre , avec camping piscine resto et boite d'organisation .
a maun c'est un peu plus bagpacker que Chobe , a chobe c'est beacuoup d'organistion de tour operateur couplé avec vic falls et tout le tralala .
nous pouvons vous en parler car nous avons fait il y a 5 ans le Zimbawe en stop puis nous avons débouler a vic Falls et avons du organiser avec une boite sur place a kasane une sortie . pas trop mal .
mais le gout de l'afrique australe nous pris et nous y sommes retourné l'année d'aprés mais avec 4*4 en self drive .
pour la namibie , essayer de rentrer par la bande de caprivi sur le botswana via le post de frontiere Shakawe mais c'est sur que venant par là il vaudra mieux passer par la bande de caprivi , mais il n'y a rien ..
bien voilà quand vous serai en Zambie nous avons fait halte non loin de luangwa dans un lieu insolite de camping ... nous vous en reparlerons .
compter vous aller en tanzanie , acr là aussi c'est splendide
ps : les chutes victoria sont bien plus impressionante coté Vic Falls .pour infos
routardement fred
Hello,
Nous sommes alles barouder en Zambie du cote de Sioma, alors je vous fait un petit topo parce qu'il y a des petites choses qui valent le coup...
Il y a par la bas le parc de Sioma Ngwezi et les chutes de Sioma. L'endroit est tres calme et paisible, loin des grandes agitations touristiques. Il y a de quoi loger confortablement le long du Zambeze. En ce qui nous concerne, nous avons ete au Sioma Camp qui est tenu admirablement par Dolene (une nana extra), qui organise les activites classiques : game drive, chutes de Sioma en bateau, visite du coin... y a pas de tour en helicoptere ou de saut l'elastique, par contre c'est l'endroit ideal pour etre peinard(e). L'acces est assez difficile depuis Sesheke : une centaine de kilometres vers le nord par une route/piste qui secoue pas mal, mais le goudron est prevu d'ici quelques temps, ce qui desenclavera un peu le coin. Les chutes de Sioma sont tres jolies (meme si pas aussi impressionnantes que les victoria), accessibles en bateau uniquement. Le zambeze est tres calme et beau a ce niveau. Amateurs de peche, il y a un fish camp un peu avant Sioma qui est absolument maginifique. J'en rajoute une petite couche (c'est pas mon genre de faire de la pub mais bon) parce que le budget pour ces "camp" entre Sesheke et Sioma, qui ne sont pas vraiment des lodges et pourtant pas non plus des camping, est derisoir compte tenu de ce que certain sont capable de mettre dans une chambre avec vue sur le Zambeze et son defile permanent de touristes. Ici, bien peu de monde, ce qui rend les tenanciers completement disponibles pour vous. Quand au parc de Sioma... le braconnage a fait d'enormes degats. Il y a peu d'animaux et ceux-ci de montrent assez timides. Notez tout de meme qu'on y trouve une espece unique, les girafes d'angola (que nous avons vues !!!), et que si vous n'assisterez surement pas a une scene de chasse spectaculaire par une horde de lionceaux en furie, vous aurez par contre le plaisir de pister le lion en suivant ses traces fraiches et de sentir votre coeur battre a tout rompre au moindre truc qui bouge dans le buisson a cote. Le guide ne compte pas son temps et connait les lieux comme sa poche.
Nous sommes alles barouder en Zambie du cote de Sioma, alors je vous fait un petit topo parce qu'il y a des petites choses qui valent le coup...
Il y a par la bas le parc de Sioma Ngwezi et les chutes de Sioma. L'endroit est tres calme et paisible, loin des grandes agitations touristiques. Il y a de quoi loger confortablement le long du Zambeze. En ce qui nous concerne, nous avons ete au Sioma Camp qui est tenu admirablement par Dolene (une nana extra), qui organise les activites classiques : game drive, chutes de Sioma en bateau, visite du coin... y a pas de tour en helicoptere ou de saut l'elastique, par contre c'est l'endroit ideal pour etre peinard(e). L'acces est assez difficile depuis Sesheke : une centaine de kilometres vers le nord par une route/piste qui secoue pas mal, mais le goudron est prevu d'ici quelques temps, ce qui desenclavera un peu le coin. Les chutes de Sioma sont tres jolies (meme si pas aussi impressionnantes que les victoria), accessibles en bateau uniquement. Le zambeze est tres calme et beau a ce niveau. Amateurs de peche, il y a un fish camp un peu avant Sioma qui est absolument maginifique. J'en rajoute une petite couche (c'est pas mon genre de faire de la pub mais bon) parce que le budget pour ces "camp" entre Sesheke et Sioma, qui ne sont pas vraiment des lodges et pourtant pas non plus des camping, est derisoir compte tenu de ce que certain sont capable de mettre dans une chambre avec vue sur le Zambeze et son defile permanent de touristes. Ici, bien peu de monde, ce qui rend les tenanciers completement disponibles pour vous. Quand au parc de Sioma... le braconnage a fait d'enormes degats. Il y a peu d'animaux et ceux-ci de montrent assez timides. Notez tout de meme qu'on y trouve une espece unique, les girafes d'angola (que nous avons vues !!!), et que si vous n'assisterez surement pas a une scene de chasse spectaculaire par une horde de lionceaux en furie, vous aurez par contre le plaisir de pister le lion en suivant ses traces fraiches et de sentir votre coeur battre a tout rompre au moindre truc qui bouge dans le buisson a cote. Le guide ne compte pas son temps et connait les lieux comme sa poche.
Hello Claire !
Merci ! Encore! 😇 Raconte-nous encore! 😎
en suivant ses traces fraiches et de sentir votre coeur battre a tout rompre au moindre truc qui bouge dans le buisson a cote. Soyez prudents tout de même ! 😊
A bientôt ...😉
Merci ! Encore! 😇 Raconte-nous encore! 😎
en suivant ses traces fraiches et de sentir votre coeur battre a tout rompre au moindre truc qui bouge dans le buisson a cote. Soyez prudents tout de même ! 😊
A bientôt ...😉
Michelle
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Hello everyone!
It's been a year since I've been longing for South Africa. Our first trip in August 2025 amazed us, and—rarely—it was a unanimous hit with our little family! We were touched to the core, and from the moment we got home, we couldn’t stop talking about going back. 😄
I’d like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who gave me advice on the itinerary for that first trip (Johannesburg loop: Blyde, Kruger, Eswatini, St. Lucia, Durban, Drakensberg)! Thanks to you, our trip went like a dream!
Since then, I haven’t stopped reading articles and discussions on VoyageForum to keep my head in South Africa a little longer!
So, we finally caved and just booked our tickets for January 2027 (from the 3rd to the 26th), with a plan to do a road trip from Cape Town to Johannesburg in about 3 weeks.
I’ve got a rough itinerary that seems great based on what I’ve read on various forums, but there are still some uncertain points, and that’s where I could use your advice.
3/01: Arrival in Johannesburg at 11:45 PM 4/01: Flight to Cape Town, pick up rental car. Afternoon sightseeing 5,6,7/01: Cape Town to visit the big classics in the area (any tips for finding accommodation: which neighborhood, a specific place?) 8/01: Overnight stop before Oudtshoorn—but where??? (Is it essential, or is the CT-Oudtshoorn drive manageable? If so, I’d gain a day in Oudtshoorn. Google Maps shows over 5 hours of driving...) 9,10/01: Oudtshoorn (or would 3 nights be better to really enjoy the area?) 11,12/01: Knysna, Plettenberg Bay (to have time for hiking—if you’ve got hiking tips, I’m all ears!) 13,14/01: Tsitsikamma (still to have time for hiking—who knows the must-do hikes in the area? But maybe 4 nights in the Knysna-Tsitsikamma area is too much—I’m not sure) 16,17/01: Addo Elephant (I’m torn between 3 nights at Addo or 3 nights at Mountain Zebra. Based on travel journals, especially Michel’s on MZ, I’ve scheduled 3 nights at MZ 😄...) 18,19,20/01: Mountain Zebra NP 21/01: Camdeboo NP (because it looks so beautiful!) 22/01: Overnight stop (where?) before wrapping up the trip with either 2 or 3 nights at Golden Gate NP or the Lesotho option, which appeals to me, but I don’t know if it’s doable in 3 days to be back in Johannesburg by the afternoon of the 26th.
That’s my trip idea for now... I’m eagerly waiting for your advice, ideas, and comments... Can’t wait to be back there again!
3/01: Arrival in Johannesburg at 11:45 PM 4/01: Flight to Cape Town, pick up rental car. Afternoon sightseeing 5,6,7/01: Cape Town to visit the big classics in the area (any tips for finding accommodation: which neighborhood, a specific place?) 8/01: Overnight stop before Oudtshoorn—but where??? (Is it essential, or is the CT-Oudtshoorn drive manageable? If so, I’d gain a day in Oudtshoorn. Google Maps shows over 5 hours of driving...) 9,10/01: Oudtshoorn (or would 3 nights be better to really enjoy the area?) 11,12/01: Knysna, Plettenberg Bay (to have time for hiking—if you’ve got hiking tips, I’m all ears!) 13,14/01: Tsitsikamma (still to have time for hiking—who knows the must-do hikes in the area? But maybe 4 nights in the Knysna-Tsitsikamma area is too much—I’m not sure) 16,17/01: Addo Elephant (I’m torn between 3 nights at Addo or 3 nights at Mountain Zebra. Based on travel journals, especially Michel’s on MZ, I’ve scheduled 3 nights at MZ 😄...) 18,19,20/01: Mountain Zebra NP 21/01: Camdeboo NP (because it looks so beautiful!) 22/01: Overnight stop (where?) before wrapping up the trip with either 2 or 3 nights at Golden Gate NP or the Lesotho option, which appeals to me, but I don’t know if it’s doable in 3 days to be back in Johannesburg by the afternoon of the 26th.
That’s my trip idea for now... I’m eagerly waiting for your advice, ideas, and comments... Can’t wait to be back there again!
Hi there,
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
Hi everyone,
We’re revising our travel plans for January 2027. Originally, we were considering Uganda for about 14/15 days, but given the current health situation and the restrictions that might affect my partner, who’s American, we’ve decided to switch to Tanzania instead.
I’m used to traveling in South Africa and organizing my trips myself, but I get the impression that planning a safari in Tanzania is quite different.
I know self-drive isn’t really an option in Tanzania. So my main question is: can you organize your own itinerary and book lodges directly, then hire a local driver-guide? Or is it better to go through a local agency that handles the entire safari?
For the itinerary, which parks would you recommend for a first-time visit in January? Serengeti, Ngorongoro, Tarangire, Manyara, Ruaha, Arusha, Selous…
We’d also like to include Zanzibar to end the trip with a few days at the beach. Over 14/15 days, does that sound realistic or too ambitious?
Finally, for flights, is it better to arrive at Kilimanjaro (JRO) or Dar es Salaam (DAR) based on the itinerary we’re considering?
Thanks in advance for your feedback, especially on the best way to organize the safari and which parks to prioritize in January!
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
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Just returned from a three-week family trip to Kenya (with three kids aged 10, 12, and 15), and I wanted to share my experience. Forums were super helpful in planning this trip, especially if you want to get a bit off the beaten path.
First off, Kenya is an amazing destination with incredibly friendly and welcoming locals. It was easy to travel around because you can always find someone to give you directions or help you out.
For practical tips—though you’ve probably read this elsewhere—get a Safaricom SIM card when you arrive at the airport so you can pay via M-Pesa (you can top it up with a credit card using the Wise app) and chat with people on WhatsApp. It’ll make your life *so* much easier (booking trains, buses, park entries, etc.) and save you from carrying too much cash or hunting for ATMs.
Also, we went during the first three weeks of July, which wasn’t peak tourist season.
One thing to note: even if you’re using public transport and budget accommodations, Kenya can still be pricey because tourist attractions add up fast—often more expensive than in France. But honestly, it’s usually worth it!
We started our trip with a 5-day homestay. We were welcomed by a really lovely family in Loitokitok with a view of Kilimanjaro right from their garden entrance (just a heads-up: in July, it’s often shrouded in mist!). To find them, search for Greenfield Homestay in Loitokitok. It was a fantastic experience, especially with kids! On top of transfers, they organized several outings with locals: a hike to the Tanzanian border, a motorcycle ride on the foothills of Kilimanjaro, and a day safari in Amboseli. You can book with them eyes closed! For the safari, Anthony (who’s English-speaking) took us around—he’s from the area and knows the park like the back of his hand. Highly recommend him!
Anthony then drove us to Isiolo, a town in the north that’s just starting to open up to tourism. We wanted to see the Monday livestock market, where different ethnic groups gather to buy and sell goats, sheep, and cows (according to Lonely Planet). We were a bit disappointed and wouldn’t recommend it. We also visited Ngare Ndare Forest, which has a stunning waterfall, an interesting walk with an armed ranger (elephants are common), and a suspension bridge for admiring the canopy. Just make sure to let them know you’re coming at least three days in advance to guarantee a ranger will be available. We also did a second safari day in Samburu—it’s a great complement to Amboseli and totally worth it!
Next, we headed to Naivasha (still with Anthony). We found a place on Airbnb (Jasmine House) at Fischerman’s Camp, a campsite we really loved! You’ll spot hippos, monkeys, and beautiful birds there. We organized several activities: a boat ride on the lake to see birds, zebras, and giraffes; a bike safari in Hell’s Gate Park (the campsite is right by the entrance and rents bikes); and a hike to Crater Lake (departing by boat from the campsite), where you walk among zebras, giraffes, and different gazelles. Naivasha is way more touristy than Loitokitok or Isiolo, but there’s no shortage of things to do.
Finally, we spent our last week in Watamu on the coast. To get there, we took an overnight ENA Coach bus from Naivasha to Mombasa, booked via https://www.travler.africa/. It was comfortable and fast, but you’ll need to call the driver to arrange a pickup spot—the restaurant staff at the campsite helped us out with that! Then we took an Uber to Watamu since we had a lot of luggage (we skipped the matatu).
Watamu is nicknamed "Little Italy" because of all the Italian tourists. When we were there (third week of July), it wasn’t peak season yet, so the beaches weren’t cleaned. But we loved the laid-back vibe and how easy it was to get around. We *highly* recommend the marine turtle rescue center—it’s fascinating (especially with kids) and supports a great cause! We were a bit disappointed by the marine park, though—maybe because of the season? There weren’t many fish, and jellyfish kinda ruined the snorkeling. The mangrove tour is also a must-do.
For the trip back to Nairobi, we took the express train from Mombasa. We booked our tickets when we first arrived in Kenya (since payment is only via M-Pesa). The train is reliable and comfortable, and we saw lots of elephants along the way. Just a heads-up: there are *a lot* of security checks, and we almost weren’t allowed to board with our Opinel knife…
If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
All in all, we had an amazing trip—so much variety, great encounters, and the magic of safaris!
First off, Kenya is an amazing destination with incredibly friendly and welcoming locals. It was easy to travel around because you can always find someone to give you directions or help you out.
For practical tips—though you’ve probably read this elsewhere—get a Safaricom SIM card when you arrive at the airport so you can pay via M-Pesa (you can top it up with a credit card using the Wise app) and chat with people on WhatsApp. It’ll make your life *so* much easier (booking trains, buses, park entries, etc.) and save you from carrying too much cash or hunting for ATMs.
Also, we went during the first three weeks of July, which wasn’t peak tourist season.
One thing to note: even if you’re using public transport and budget accommodations, Kenya can still be pricey because tourist attractions add up fast—often more expensive than in France. But honestly, it’s usually worth it!
We started our trip with a 5-day homestay. We were welcomed by a really lovely family in Loitokitok with a view of Kilimanjaro right from their garden entrance (just a heads-up: in July, it’s often shrouded in mist!). To find them, search for Greenfield Homestay in Loitokitok. It was a fantastic experience, especially with kids! On top of transfers, they organized several outings with locals: a hike to the Tanzanian border, a motorcycle ride on the foothills of Kilimanjaro, and a day safari in Amboseli. You can book with them eyes closed! For the safari, Anthony (who’s English-speaking) took us around—he’s from the area and knows the park like the back of his hand. Highly recommend him!
Anthony then drove us to Isiolo, a town in the north that’s just starting to open up to tourism. We wanted to see the Monday livestock market, where different ethnic groups gather to buy and sell goats, sheep, and cows (according to Lonely Planet). We were a bit disappointed and wouldn’t recommend it. We also visited Ngare Ndare Forest, which has a stunning waterfall, an interesting walk with an armed ranger (elephants are common), and a suspension bridge for admiring the canopy. Just make sure to let them know you’re coming at least three days in advance to guarantee a ranger will be available. We also did a second safari day in Samburu—it’s a great complement to Amboseli and totally worth it!
Next, we headed to Naivasha (still with Anthony). We found a place on Airbnb (Jasmine House) at Fischerman’s Camp, a campsite we really loved! You’ll spot hippos, monkeys, and beautiful birds there. We organized several activities: a boat ride on the lake to see birds, zebras, and giraffes; a bike safari in Hell’s Gate Park (the campsite is right by the entrance and rents bikes); and a hike to Crater Lake (departing by boat from the campsite), where you walk among zebras, giraffes, and different gazelles. Naivasha is way more touristy than Loitokitok or Isiolo, but there’s no shortage of things to do.
Finally, we spent our last week in Watamu on the coast. To get there, we took an overnight ENA Coach bus from Naivasha to Mombasa, booked via https://www.travler.africa/. It was comfortable and fast, but you’ll need to call the driver to arrange a pickup spot—the restaurant staff at the campsite helped us out with that! Then we took an Uber to Watamu since we had a lot of luggage (we skipped the matatu).
Watamu is nicknamed "Little Italy" because of all the Italian tourists. When we were there (third week of July), it wasn’t peak season yet, so the beaches weren’t cleaned. But we loved the laid-back vibe and how easy it was to get around. We *highly* recommend the marine turtle rescue center—it’s fascinating (especially with kids) and supports a great cause! We were a bit disappointed by the marine park, though—maybe because of the season? There weren’t many fish, and jellyfish kinda ruined the snorkeling. The mangrove tour is also a must-do.
For the trip back to Nairobi, we took the express train from Mombasa. We booked our tickets when we first arrived in Kenya (since payment is only via M-Pesa). The train is reliable and comfortable, and we saw lots of elephants along the way. Just a heads-up: there are *a lot* of security checks, and we almost weren’t allowed to board with our Opinel knife…
If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
All in all, we had an amazing trip—so much variety, great encounters, and the magic of safaris!
Hi everyone!
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes. I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks). Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate. Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross. Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head. Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes: Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek? At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge? There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes. I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks). Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate. Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross. Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head. Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes: Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek? At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge? There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
hi
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls. I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions. I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali. Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha. I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4. Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Thanks for your tips and feedback!
Rachel
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls. I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions. I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali. Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha. I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4. Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Thanks for your tips and feedback!
Rachel
Jambo! I organized my trip through this kind of group, so I thought I’d share my experience here. We traveled as a group of four, including two kids aged 9 and 11. After requesting around twenty quotes, I decided to book the safari portion with MAKING MEMORIES IN AFRICA. Ally responded quickly and listened to all my requests—unlike other agencies—such as having a French-speaking guide, the order of park visits (Tarangire, Manyara, Serengeti, then Ngorongoro), and a mix of budget hotels and camping to keep costs down. There were still four agencies in the running, and price was the deciding factor. Even though they were the cheapest, I felt better taken care of than with others. For example, all meals were prepared by a Maasai chef, Louis, who accompanied us throughout the trip, while some others ate meals out of cardboard boxes. Samuel, our guide, explained so many things and answered all our questions. José drove us safely the whole way. Everything was done with great cheer!
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
Hi there,
Hope the pros are on the lookout!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
Hi there,
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Thanks,
David
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Thanks,
David
Hi,
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
Hi there,
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
Hi everyone!
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
Hi everyone!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
Hi
Any feedback on the agency Mon Guide Zanzibar?
Hi everyone,
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Hello,
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
Hello everyone,
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
Hi everyone,
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
hi there
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
Hey everyone,
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
