Points d'eau sur le parcours du Alpamayo? (Cordillère Blanche, Pérou)
by Arnaurlie
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour
Je prevoit le tour de l4alpamayo pour debut septembre et j'aurai voulu connaitre si il y avaait des points d'eau sur le parcours ou il faut prevoir l'eau au depart sur toute la marche???
Merci
Arnaud
Salut ! Et bien je ne peux pas encore te repondre... un post utile n'est ce pas lol ?
Relance moi d'ici 15 jours, je serais du côté de Huaraz... et certainement en vadrouille dans les montagnes environnante, voir en train de prevoir une ascension (l'Alpamayo justement ????) si le temps le permet déjà, mais c'est loin d'être gagné... Mais je pense que tu n'as pas de soucis a te faire, la cordillera blanca regorge de glaciers... qui dit glaciers dit eau, et donc pas mal de torrents. ce n'est pas une region particulièrement sèche.
Relance moi d'ici 15 jours, je serais du côté de Huaraz... et certainement en vadrouille dans les montagnes environnante, voir en train de prevoir une ascension (l'Alpamayo justement ????) si le temps le permet déjà, mais c'est loin d'être gagné... Mais je pense que tu n'as pas de soucis a te faire, la cordillera blanca regorge de glaciers... qui dit glaciers dit eau, et donc pas mal de torrents. ce n'est pas une region particulièrement sèche.
Un voyage ne se calcule pas en terme d'heures d'avion... on peut aller bien souvent plus loin avec une bonne paire de chaussures.
Pas de "points d'eau" mais des rivières partout
Quelques photos : http://obiou.fr/
Idem, il y'a des rivières partout et l'eau est potable.
N'importe quoi !
Pas le temps de répondre ce soir, mais l'eau provenant des rus et rivières, là-haut vers l’Alpamayo, est bien plus potable que celle que tu pourrais boire dans une ville. Surtout pour un touriste qui n’en boira pas des quantités abondantes durant des mois.
Il faut savoir que si la consommation d’eaux est nocive dans les Andes c’est simplement et uniquement parce que celles-ci sont trop chargées en minéraux.
J’ajouterai même que vu sa teneur élevée en minéraux, elle est très bonne pour la santé d’un touriste qui ne la boira que quelques fois.
Il ne faut pas parler de ce que l’on ne connaît pas !!!!!
Pas le temps de répondre ce soir, mais l'eau provenant des rus et rivières, là-haut vers l’Alpamayo, est bien plus potable que celle que tu pourrais boire dans une ville. Surtout pour un touriste qui n’en boira pas des quantités abondantes durant des mois.
Il faut savoir que si la consommation d’eaux est nocive dans les Andes c’est simplement et uniquement parce que celles-ci sont trop chargées en minéraux.
J’ajouterai même que vu sa teneur élevée en minéraux, elle est très bonne pour la santé d’un touriste qui ne la boira que quelques fois.
Il ne faut pas parler de ce que l’on ne connaît pas !!!!!
l'eau provenant des rus et rivières, là-haut vers l’Alpamayo, est bien plus potable que celle que tu pourrais boire dans une ville. Surtout pour un touriste qui n’en boira pas des quantités abondantes durant des mois.
Probablement et exempte des parasites que l’on trouve en pays tropicaux. Je suis plus mitigé sur la question de « quantité », il suffit de boire une fois de l’eau contaminée pour se chopper une tourista… L’eau sortant des glaciers ou dans les torrents d’altitude peut certainement être bue sans traitement (et là elle manque plutôt de minéraux) mais dès que l’on est en zone d’alpage avec la contamination possible par les animaux (les altitudes auxquelles on bivouaque !), je ne boirais pas de l’eau sans traitement. Je fais de même dans les Alpes.
Je prévoit que une vingtaines de litres d'eau pour les premier jours et après je pourrait me ravitailler sans problème en eau dans les ruisseau ou torrent.
???????? Faudra que tu expliques tes projets. Normalement une gourde de 1.5 L suffit
Probablement et exempte des parasites que l’on trouve en pays tropicaux. Je suis plus mitigé sur la question de « quantité », il suffit de boire une fois de l’eau contaminée pour se chopper une tourista… L’eau sortant des glaciers ou dans les torrents d’altitude peut certainement être bue sans traitement (et là elle manque plutôt de minéraux) mais dès que l’on est en zone d’alpage avec la contamination possible par les animaux (les altitudes auxquelles on bivouaque !), je ne boirais pas de l’eau sans traitement. Je fais de même dans les Alpes.
Je prévoit que une vingtaines de litres d'eau pour les premier jours et après je pourrait me ravitailler sans problème en eau dans les ruisseau ou torrent.
???????? Faudra que tu expliques tes projets. Normalement une gourde de 1.5 L suffit
Quelques photos : http://obiou.fr/
je ne boirais pas de l’eau sans traitement. Je fais de même dans les Alpes.
En générale, Je traite l'eau à l'étranger, plus par précaution. Car je n'aimerai pas être malade pendant une marche, c'est pas le top 😏 Mais ca met déjà arrivé d'en boire sans traitement de temps en temps (en faisant attention ou je la prenais).
Par contre, dans les Alpes (de la France à l'Autriche), je n'ai jamais rien purifié. Je fais gaffe où je la prend 😉 Même si parfois, j'ai dû la prendre là où je pouvais, par manque de choix. Et je me suis retrouvé plusieurs fois à boire des eaux douteuse 🤪 (en petite quantité bien sur, juste pour éviter la deshydratation, mais aucun problème jusqu'à maintenant) Je pense qu'il y a aussi une question "d'habitude" à l'eau. Je bois l'eau des Alpes depuis tout petit, Je suis peut être immunisé 😇
Dans le autres massifs Français, je ne purifie pas non plus. En plaine par contre, je ne prend pas l'eau des rivières, je la prends dans les cimetières.
Je prévoit que une vingtaines de litres d'eau pour les premier jours et après je pourrait me ravitailler sans problème en eau dans les ruisseau ou torrent.
Euh Comme Tichodrome, je compends pas 🤪 Tu veux porter 20L (20kg) d'eau ?
En générale, Je traite l'eau à l'étranger, plus par précaution. Car je n'aimerai pas être malade pendant une marche, c'est pas le top 😏 Mais ca met déjà arrivé d'en boire sans traitement de temps en temps (en faisant attention ou je la prenais).
Par contre, dans les Alpes (de la France à l'Autriche), je n'ai jamais rien purifié. Je fais gaffe où je la prend 😉 Même si parfois, j'ai dû la prendre là où je pouvais, par manque de choix. Et je me suis retrouvé plusieurs fois à boire des eaux douteuse 🤪 (en petite quantité bien sur, juste pour éviter la deshydratation, mais aucun problème jusqu'à maintenant) Je pense qu'il y a aussi une question "d'habitude" à l'eau. Je bois l'eau des Alpes depuis tout petit, Je suis peut être immunisé 😇
Dans le autres massifs Français, je ne purifie pas non plus. En plaine par contre, je ne prend pas l'eau des rivières, je la prends dans les cimetières.
Je prévoit que une vingtaines de litres d'eau pour les premier jours et après je pourrait me ravitailler sans problème en eau dans les ruisseau ou torrent.
Euh Comme Tichodrome, je compends pas 🤪 Tu veux porter 20L (20kg) d'eau ?
Il ne faut pas parler de ce que l’on ne connaît pas !!!!!
Bien monsieur l'expert. j'en prends note.
sachez cependant, que vous mélangez deux choses... sa teneur en mineraux (qui la rend buvable) vs les parasites (qui la rend buvable mais qui doit être préalablement traité).
la présence importante d'animaux sur le parcours de l'alpamayo ne permet pas de dire que l'eau est sur à 100% coté parasite. Libre à chacun de choisir de traiter ou non.
Mais bon je vous laisse à vos jugements d'expert 😉 Je ne suis qu'un pauvre randonneur ignorant peu habitué à marcher en autonomie dans des contrées sauvages 😎
Bien monsieur l'expert. j'en prends note.
sachez cependant, que vous mélangez deux choses... sa teneur en mineraux (qui la rend buvable) vs les parasites (qui la rend buvable mais qui doit être préalablement traité).
la présence importante d'animaux sur le parcours de l'alpamayo ne permet pas de dire que l'eau est sur à 100% coté parasite. Libre à chacun de choisir de traiter ou non.
Mais bon je vous laisse à vos jugements d'expert 😉 Je ne suis qu'un pauvre randonneur ignorant peu habitué à marcher en autonomie dans des contrées sauvages 😎
Bonjour
Pour l'eau autour de l'Alpamayo pas la peine de te charger ...
Il y a des torrents partout ...
Tu prends un filtre Katadyn et le tour est joué .... pour le trek ....pour le reste du pays ... est surtout pour éviter de polluer avec des dizaines de bouteilles plastique
qu'on ne recycle pas encore là-bas !!!!
A Caraz tu as une agence sérieuse qui te trouve des arrieros avec âne
Pony's Expeditions: www.ponyexpeditions.com
Tu peux trouver les mêmes arrieros à Cashapampa mais ils n'ont souvent pas de matos : tente et nourriture à leur fournir.
Tu achètes les "Andes" de S Payan et V Geus Chez Glénat et tu auras tous les renseignements que tu cherches .....+ carte Alpenvereinskarte 0/3a Cordillère Blanche Nord ....
Bon trek
C B
Bonjour,
Tu peux confirmer que le tour de l'Alpamayo peut se faire sans porteur d'eau ?? J'ai entendu que les cours d'eau au Pérou étaient pollués au mercure, est-ce uniquement dans la bassin amazonien ou bien également en montagnes ? Merci
Sam
Tu peux confirmer que le tour de l'Alpamayo peut se faire sans porteur d'eau ?? J'ai entendu que les cours d'eau au Pérou étaient pollués au mercure, est-ce uniquement dans la bassin amazonien ou bien également en montagnes ? Merci
Sam
Deviens ce que tu es
la contamination au mercure de l'eau provient des traitements miniers et autour de l'Alpamayo il n'y a pas d'industries minières.
Sachant qu'une tartine de beurre tombe toujours du côté beurré et qu'un chat retombe toujours sur ses pattes, de quel côté tombe une tartine de beurre solidement attachée sur le dos d'un chat???
http://loufoten.skyrock.com
http://loufoten.skyrock.com
Holla
Tu trouves de l'eau dans les torrents ..... Il suffit d'avoir un filtre Katadyn ou autre
traitement de purification .... comme ici en montagne ...
Aucune pollution en altitude à part les crottes de lamas ou animaux en liberté !
Bon trek
C B
Salut non comme le disent Vaeroy et Lapresse2 , il n'y a tout simplement pas d'industries en altitude ! A part les crottes de Lama donc une simple filtration avec des cachets genre hydroclonazone ou Katadyn suffit.
Pour en trouver encore une fois il te faut une bonne carte qui montre les rivières et les cours d'eau. Mais il y en a partout en altitude dans les Andes péruviennes donc pas trop de problèmes.
Par contre en Argentine dans la région de Salta j'avais eu des difficultés à trouver des points d'eau.
Mais tu vas au Pérou pas en Argentine 😉
tu peux toujours demander aux habitants locaux "donde se puede encontra agua".
Il faut se fier à la marche à suivre de Lapresse2 qui te donne les cartes à utiliser 😉
Il faut se fier à la marche à suivre de Lapresse2 qui te donne les cartes à utiliser 😉
Merci à tous pour ces renseignements précieux.
Autre questions : Est-ce qu'il vaut mieux prendre un muletier ? Est-ce qu'une carte est indispensable ?
Je suis preneur de toutes les infos concernant ce trek et les alentours.
On vous fera partager à notre tour notre expérience. Vous pouvez nous suivre sur notre site http://itinerance-andine.com
A bientôt
Sam&Delphine
Autre questions : Est-ce qu'il vaut mieux prendre un muletier ? Est-ce qu'une carte est indispensable ?
Je suis preneur de toutes les infos concernant ce trek et les alentours.
On vous fera partager à notre tour notre expérience. Vous pouvez nous suivre sur notre site http://itinerance-andine.com
A bientôt
Sam&Delphine
Deviens ce que tu es
Holla
Nous prenons un muletier .... car la tente-couchage, le réchaud et surtout la nourriture pour 5-6 jours .... ça pèse un peu pour nous maintenant ....
Nous avons croisé des marcheurs en autonomie , jeunes et qui randonnaient
"léger" .
Tout dépend du trek que vous choisissez et de sa durée mais pour nous une carte et un topo s'imposent toujours pour savoir ce qui nous attend même accompagnés d'un muletier.
C B
Est-ce qu'il vaut mieux prendre un muletier ?
C'est un choix personnel - porter un peu lourd ou pas ? - trouver ton itinéraire (ça m'amuse) ou avoir qqu'un qui te l'indique ? - décider de tes étapes ?
Est-ce qu'une carte est indispensable ?
Indispensable si tu randonnes sans muletier, dommage de s'en passer même avec un muletier, ça te change la lecture du paysage...
Je suis preneur de toutes les infos concernant ce trek et les alentours.
Pour le Tour de l'Alpamayo : Schéma de l'itinéraire global et extraits de cartes avec mes étapes : http://obiou.fr/Photos/070710Perou/index.html Eventuellement trace GPS : http://obiou.fr/Photos/Gps/index.html
Bonne balade
C'est un choix personnel - porter un peu lourd ou pas ? - trouver ton itinéraire (ça m'amuse) ou avoir qqu'un qui te l'indique ? - décider de tes étapes ?
Est-ce qu'une carte est indispensable ?
Indispensable si tu randonnes sans muletier, dommage de s'en passer même avec un muletier, ça te change la lecture du paysage...
Je suis preneur de toutes les infos concernant ce trek et les alentours.
Pour le Tour de l'Alpamayo : Schéma de l'itinéraire global et extraits de cartes avec mes étapes : http://obiou.fr/Photos/070710Perou/index.html Eventuellement trace GPS : http://obiou.fr/Photos/Gps/index.html
Bonne balade
Quelques photos : http://obiou.fr/
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Hello,
We’re really keen on ecosystems and want to hike in "natural" ancient forests—not planted woods or areas heavily degraded by human activity. Travel guides (like Lonely Planet) don’t provide much info on this. Could you point us to the most interesting spots? Thanks in advance for your tips. We wish you happy holidays and a fantastic 2026, full of discoveries! Claire and Albert
We’re really keen on ecosystems and want to hike in "natural" ancient forests—not planted woods or areas heavily degraded by human activity. Travel guides (like Lonely Planet) don’t provide much info on this. Could you point us to the most interesting spots? Thanks in advance for your tips. We wish you happy holidays and a fantastic 2026, full of discoveries! Claire and Albert
Hi, this might not be the right section, but I’d like to know if it’s possible to start mountaineering with another person without necessarily hiring a guide. We’ve done quite a bit of hiking but not mountaineering—we’ll just do a half-day glacier course. After that, we were thinking of starting with La Grande Motte and the Pointe de la Traversière, which were recommended to us. Honestly, for things like roping up and knots, I’ll learn at home with lots of videos and a book.
Spots where we could pitch the tent near a stream
I’d love to know if anyone has done treks in the Rwenzori Mountains and how much it costs on average, what the infrastructure is like, the landscapes, and safety in the area. Thanks so much! I’m really looking forward to your replies.
Hi there,
I’m looking for half-day hikes near Karakol (not Jety-Oguz, since I’ll be heading there separately—max 30 minutes’ drive to the trailhead).
I can find longer treks, but nothing for a short outing!
So, if you’ve got any ideas...
Thanks! :)
I’m looking for half-day hikes near Karakol (not Jety-Oguz, since I’ll be heading there separately—max 30 minutes’ drive to the trailhead).
I can find longer treks, but nothing for a short outing!
So, if you’ve got any ideas...
Thanks! :)
Hi everyone,
We’re leaving in 9 days for a two-week trip to Madeira, mainly to hike.
From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike. It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Pascal
We’re leaving in 9 days for a two-week trip to Madeira, mainly to hike.
From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike. It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Pascal
Hi there,
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We’re flying from Montreal to Lyon this August to go hiking in the French Alps. We’ve rented a car and will be staying at campgrounds. We’re planning to do day hikes and want to stay a few days in one spot, do a few hikes, then move on to our next camping spot. Could you share your favorite spots or any recommendations for places to spend a few days with great hikes?
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
Hi there,
I’m planning to go hiking on this island and would like to know the best time to do it. I visited for a few days in November 2018—not for hiking but just to explore—and the weather wasn’t great, especially in the mountains. So, is a star-shaped itinerary doable if I rent a car and maybe use two different accommodations?
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
hi there,
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
Hi,
I’d like some advice on doing the Camino de Santiago—or part of it—from the Basque Country.
Best,
Hi there,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.





