Points d'entrées en Birmanie via la Thaïlande?
by Burma2007
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Je vais entreprendre un petit voyage en Asie du sud est, et je souhaiterais savoir quels sont les différents points d'entrée en Birmanie (Voie terrestre) via la Thailand. Merci
Mae Sot par voie terrestre (voie maritime Ranong -peu connu- fait pour un visa run).
mai pen rai krap
j'ecrit sur clavier américain désolé pour les accents...
en dehors de MaeSot ( mais reste a verifier sur le site concernant la Birmanie, qu'une fois passé MaeSot, en tant qu'étranger tu as le droit de continuer par la route )
il y a la frontière Nord de MaeSai / Tachilek ou tu peux aller par route jusqu'à Kentung ( ou prendre l'avion directement à Tachilek ) - aucun soucis pour faire alors la boucle Kentung Mandalay Pagan ... et ressortir par avion à Yangon pour Bangkok
il y a la frontière Nord de MaeSai / Tachilek ou tu peux aller par route jusqu'à Kentung ( ou prendre l'avion directement à Tachilek ) - aucun soucis pour faire alors la boucle Kentung Mandalay Pagan ... et ressortir par avion à Yangon pour Bangkok
Attention Tintina a été refoulée à Tachilek, elle en parle ici J'imagine qu'elle nous en dira plus.
Véro
Dernier séjour dont nous avons parlé en ligne http://www.veroeddy.be/europe/uk/from-scotland-with-love
Depuis janvier 2012 http://www.veroeddy.be
En tout cas, officiellement, il n'y a aucun moyen d'entrer en Birmanie par voie terrestre. Quelques touristes sont passés par Tachilek et ont eu de la chance. Le trajet par la route depuis Tachilek est impossible, uniquement par avion.
Par Ranong : NON
Ne pas plaisanter avec ces passages terrestres. Un passage depuis la Chine de Rulli vers Mu-Se, mais pas tout le temps.
Entrée par Rangon et Mandalay et par avion.
Par Ranong : NON
Ne pas plaisanter avec ces passages terrestres. Un passage depuis la Chine de Rulli vers Mu-Se, mais pas tout le temps.
Entrée par Rangon et Mandalay et par avion.
Presque tous les touristes qui passaient a Ranong l'annee derniere faisaient des visas run avec le Myanmar (j'en ai fait un personellement).
La "loi d'urgence" instauree apres le "coup d'etat" de decembre interdit-elle desormais le passage ? (j'ai cru le comprendre mais ce n'est pas clair)
La "loi d'urgence" instauree apres le "coup d'etat" de decembre interdit-elle desormais le passage ? (j'ai cru le comprendre mais ce n'est pas clair)
mai pen rai krap
j'ecrit sur clavier américain désolé pour les accents...
Je suis entrée sans le moindre problème en juillet 2005, de manière totalement officielle, mais j'avais un visa. La veille, je lisais sur ce forum que c'était impossible. Je ne pense pas avoir eu une chance particulière. J'ai vu, ce jour-là, des dizaines d'étrangers passer pour la journée. Je l'ai répété souvent passer par voie terrestre en Birmanie n'est pas une solution pour entrer dans le pays de manière économique puisque le prix d'un billet pour rejoindre les sites les plus classiques est équivalent à un BKK-RGN. Pour ma part, je voulais visiter cette partie de l'état Shan que je ne connaissais pas et pour l'atteindre depuis Yangon cela m'aurait coûté le même prix, la route étant fermée dans les deux sens. Ce n'est pas une possibilité pour voyageurs pressés puisque la situation change régulièrement. La Birmanie ne se prête pas, je pense, aux voyages avec timing précis. Il s'agit d'un avis personnel bien entendu.
Bon voyage à tous
Véro
Dernier séjour dont nous avons parlé en ligne http://www.veroeddy.be/europe/uk/from-scotland-with-love
Depuis janvier 2012 http://www.veroeddy.be
2005. Oui, mais depuis, bien des choses ont changé, y compris la capitale qui a déménagé. Comme je l'ai dit plus haut, en Birmanie, les choses changent au gré des humeurs de Than Shwe et de son astrologue fou. Donc, et je me répète, ce qui était possible hier, ne l'est plus aujourd'hui ou pourrait ne plus l'être.
Très bien pour vous, si vous avez pu entrer en Birmanie par voie terrestre mais ne le proposez pas comme quelque chose de possible aujourd'hui.
désolé de te contredire Claudia mais le passage voie terrestre via MaeSai Tachilek se fait sans aucun probleme pour les Thai comme pour les etrangers, sous réserve qui'ls aient leur visa d'entrée au préalable ( le visa pouvant se faire directement à bangkok, sinon u par messager depuis ChiangMai en 4 jours ouvrables) et pour les etrangers qui veulent continuer la boucle dans le sens Birmanie Nord Sud et sortie p ar avion à Yangon pour Bangkok
ensuite route sans probleme ( je parle probleme d'autorisation) de Tachilek à Kentung et de la, Kentung route ou avion vers mandalay, vers le Nord, route vers la frontière chinoise ou autre ..
dans le sens contraire également sans aucun probleme pour arriver de Yangon et rejoindre Tachilek ( des avions pas ex de Heho Taungyi ou autre ..)
cela etant vérifié personnellement et a plusieurs reprises depuis mi 2006 et encore valable a ce jour
ensuite route sans probleme ( je parle probleme d'autorisation) de Tachilek à Kentung et de la, Kentung route ou avion vers mandalay, vers le Nord, route vers la frontière chinoise ou autre ..
dans le sens contraire également sans aucun probleme pour arriver de Yangon et rejoindre Tachilek ( des avions pas ex de Heho Taungyi ou autre ..)
cela etant vérifié personnellement et a plusieurs reprises depuis mi 2006 et encore valable a ce jour
faites comme bon vous semble et comme je le dis, les choses changent au gré du vent dans ce pays pour ne pas dire au gré des humeurs du général.
des questions sont posées auxquelles j'essaye de répondre dans la mesure de mes connaissances qui peuvent être contredites à tout moment par vous ou par les événements.
D'ailleurs dans ce sens je vous suggère de consulter le poste de Tintina du 3 février
hello, tres IMPORTANT,
hier 03 02 07 j'ai ete refoulee de TACHILEK BIRMANIE, tous les avions pour MANDALAY sont supprimes, y compris de CHIANG MAI, ce sont les infos de la frontiere birmane,
j'ai eu bcp de mal a discuter avec les services immigration birman ou thai,
car mon bleme, mon stamp thai se terminait le 03 02 07, donc je suis dans l'illegalite en thailande, je file a chiang mai, au bureau d'immigration pour trouver une solution,
Sinon si quelqu'un a des infos sur les problemes en birmanie, je suis preneuse, pour savoir si je peux trouver une solution pour aller en Birmanie.
amicalment
tintina
réponse tout a fait amicale de part - a priori c'est le but d'un forum d'exposer des points de vue et des expériences parfois opposées
j'avais déjà pris connaissance du message de Tintina J'avais de suite contacté le bureua d'AirMandalay qui m'avait répondu que les vols ChiangMai Mandalay étaient maintenu et qu'ils n'avaient pas connaissance d'un soucis particulier a la frontière - bien évidemment le chef d'antenne d'AirMandalay ne vas pas s'épancher au tel sur ses etats d'ames ( meme s'il est au courant de la situation exacte)
Tintina nous donneras peux etre des nouvelles de son probleme de la semaine passée car je ne nie absolument pas le fait qu'elle ait eu des soucis . Mais elle n'avait pas précisé dans son message si elle était la seule dans son cas ou s'il y avait avec elle d'autres étrangers qui se sont fait refoulés de la meme facon
ce qui est sur c'est que les Birmans savent clairement que depuis la fin de l'année dernière, les postes thailandais refusent de plus en plus souvent les visa-run, et du coup les birmans n'ont peux etre pas envie de se retrouver avec des étrangers venant de Thailande, ayant passé la frontière et se faisant refouler au retour en Thailande ( ce qui serait alors un comble pour un candidat au visa-run)
j'avais déjà pris connaissance du message de Tintina J'avais de suite contacté le bureua d'AirMandalay qui m'avait répondu que les vols ChiangMai Mandalay étaient maintenu et qu'ils n'avaient pas connaissance d'un soucis particulier a la frontière - bien évidemment le chef d'antenne d'AirMandalay ne vas pas s'épancher au tel sur ses etats d'ames ( meme s'il est au courant de la situation exacte)
Tintina nous donneras peux etre des nouvelles de son probleme de la semaine passée car je ne nie absolument pas le fait qu'elle ait eu des soucis . Mais elle n'avait pas précisé dans son message si elle était la seule dans son cas ou s'il y avait avec elle d'autres étrangers qui se sont fait refoulés de la meme facon
ce qui est sur c'est que les Birmans savent clairement que depuis la fin de l'année dernière, les postes thailandais refusent de plus en plus souvent les visa-run, et du coup les birmans n'ont peux etre pas envie de se retrouver avec des étrangers venant de Thailande, ayant passé la frontière et se faisant refouler au retour en Thailande ( ce qui serait alors un comble pour un candidat au visa-run)
"Kentung route ou avion vers mandalay"...t'es VRAIMENT sur de ce que tu avance, car il y a un moi en venant du lake inle dans l'autre sens j'ai jamais pu depasser namsamg?
effectivement tu ne peux pas t'aventurer apres Namsang car ca devient une zone "controlée"
Par contre le plus simple ( pas le plus économique) est de faire Kentung Mandalay si tu veux aller dans le sud
par la route effectivement je ne me prononcerais pas ( je retire de mon post le "et par la route" ) sur la possibilité d'un touriste étranger d'aller se ballader tout seul si accompagné avec un guide birman, c'est une autre histoire
dnas le sens Sud Nord, il faut alors faire le saut avion direct pour Tachilek ( départ Taungyi vers Tachilek)
par la route effectivement je ne me prononcerais pas ( je retire de mon post le "et par la route" ) sur la possibilité d'un touriste étranger d'aller se ballader tout seul si accompagné avec un guide birman, c'est une autre histoire
dnas le sens Sud Nord, il faut alors faire le saut avion direct pour Tachilek ( départ Taungyi vers Tachilek)
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Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi everyone. As I’m planning my trip for next winter, I’m looking for hotel suggestions in Camotes, Bantayan, Malapascua, Bohol, and Siquijor. The ones I had in mind seem to be fully booked (unless it’s too early?). For those familiar with the area, is it easy to find accommodations on the spot in January/February? I’m specifically looking for hotels with a pool, beachfront, air conditioning, and easy scooter rental nearby. Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Kanchanaburi:
Kanchanaburi:
Sri Chiangmai:
Soppong:
Tha Wang Pha:
Kanchanaburi:

Kanchanaburi:

Sri Chiangmai:

Soppong:

Tha Wang Pha:

🙂 Hi everyone!
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hi there,
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !
Hi everyone,
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
Hi everyone,
Family of 4—2 adults and 2 kids (11 and 15) who are well-traveled. We’re planning a 15-day trip to Indonesia and would love your thoughts on our itinerary. We love discovering local culture, food (!!), seeing beautiful landscapes, and keeping an active pace. We’re not the type to lounge on the beach for 5 hours or spend ages by the pool when we’re halfway across the world. Also, we try to avoid places "ruined" by mass tourism (like Holbox in Mexico, which we loved 10 years ago but not at all on our last visit, or Phi Phi in Thailand, completely destroyed by mass tourism).
Special note: we love traveling by train :)
Here’s what we’ve planned so far:
**Day 1** Arrival in Jakarta, then domestic flight to Yogyakarta. Settle in Yogyakarta.
**Day 2** Borobudur in the morning, then exploring nearby villages.
**Day 3** Prambanan in the morning, followed by culinary discovery / market / local vibe in Yogyakarta.
**Day 4** Train to Jombang, then driver/bus to the Bromo area. Overnight stay.
**Day 5** Sunrise at Bromo, exploring the volcano and sea of sand. Relax in the afternoon.
**Day 6** Travel to eastern Java, then train, ferry, and road to reach Sidemen in Bali.
**Day 7** Sidemen
**Day 8** Sidemen
**Day 9** Sidemen
**Day 10** Transfer to Gili Air (car to the port + fast boat?)
**Day 11** Gili Air
**Day 12** Gili Air
**Day 13** Transfer to Ubud
**Day 14** Ubud
**Day 15** Return to Bali airport, flight to Jakarta, then international flight.
Does this itinerary seem coherent for a family? Does it feel too packed or well-balanced? Would you make any changes to certain stops, durations, or transfers?
Thanks so much for your tips and experiences!
Family of 4—2 adults and 2 kids (11 and 15) who are well-traveled. We’re planning a 15-day trip to Indonesia and would love your thoughts on our itinerary. We love discovering local culture, food (!!), seeing beautiful landscapes, and keeping an active pace. We’re not the type to lounge on the beach for 5 hours or spend ages by the pool when we’re halfway across the world. Also, we try to avoid places "ruined" by mass tourism (like Holbox in Mexico, which we loved 10 years ago but not at all on our last visit, or Phi Phi in Thailand, completely destroyed by mass tourism).
Special note: we love traveling by train :)
Here’s what we’ve planned so far:
**Day 1** Arrival in Jakarta, then domestic flight to Yogyakarta. Settle in Yogyakarta.
**Day 2** Borobudur in the morning, then exploring nearby villages.
**Day 3** Prambanan in the morning, followed by culinary discovery / market / local vibe in Yogyakarta.
**Day 4** Train to Jombang, then driver/bus to the Bromo area. Overnight stay.
**Day 5** Sunrise at Bromo, exploring the volcano and sea of sand. Relax in the afternoon.
**Day 6** Travel to eastern Java, then train, ferry, and road to reach Sidemen in Bali.
**Day 7** Sidemen
**Day 8** Sidemen
**Day 9** Sidemen
**Day 10** Transfer to Gili Air (car to the port + fast boat?)
**Day 11** Gili Air
**Day 12** Gili Air
**Day 13** Transfer to Ubud
**Day 14** Ubud
**Day 15** Return to Bali airport, flight to Jakarta, then international flight.
Does this itinerary seem coherent for a family? Does it feel too packed or well-balanced? Would you make any changes to certain stops, durations, or transfers?
Thanks so much for your tips and experiences!







