Voyager en solitaire ne prend pas la même signification selon bien sûr les destinations, les cultures rencontrées, le type et la durée du voyage envisagé, mais aussi l'expérience, le caractère, voire même le sexe de chacun. Seul point commun pour tous, c'est le plus souvent à la tombée de la nuit que l'impression de solitude est la plus forte.
En attendant, mieux vaut déjà ne pas aller trop à l'encontre de sa "nature" pour choisir de partir seul ou accompagné. Tout en sachant que des compromis existent et qu'il est toujours possible de partir à plusieurs en se ménageant en cours de route des moments, voire des périodes de plusieurs jours, où l'on voyagera en solitaire.
1- Les avantages
Incontestablement les inconditionnels du voyage en solitaire vous diront qu'être seul représente la liberté absolue, celle de voyager à son rythme, changer son itinéraire et faire ce que l'on veut quand on veut. Et être seul pousse à aller vers les autres en multipliant les rencontres même si, hormis en Europe ou en Amérique du Nord, il est parfois difficile de rester isolé tant la "curiosité" des locaux peut être importante.
A l'opposé, on peut penser que voyager à plusieurs réduit cette envie de contacts en incitant, même inconsciemment, les gens à rester entre eux au détriment des autres voyageurs et populations locales.
Dans un autre domaine, cet aspect solitaire peut permettre à certains de mieux se connaître, se dépasser, prendre confiance et agir parfois en ce sens comme une thérapie.
Néanmoins, le routard solitaire aura plus que tout autre intérêt à emporter avec lui quelques bons bouquins, sa musique, ses films et de manière générale d'autres choses qui lui tiennent à coeur et qui combleront les moments sans rencontres. Moments que certains pourront d'ailleurs mettre à profit pour tenir un journal de voyage.
2- Les inconvénients
2.1- Difficultés
Voyager seul présente aussi des inconvénients. Pour une fille seule, à l'évidence, certains pays ou régions ne sont pas forcément faciles.
Pour le voyageur débutant, partir avec d'autres personnes ou quelqu'un d'un peu expérimenté évitera pas mal d'erreurs, notamment pour des périples difficiles ou des pays très différents de ce qu'il connaît déjà. Sans parler de ceux qui au niveau langues maîtrisent avant tout.... le français. Dans ce cas, certains auront en effet tendance à ne rechercher que le contact d'autres francophones, ce qui dans les faits limitera quand même pas mal les possibilités de rencontres.
2.2- Coûts
Dans un autre domaine être seul revient également plus cher, ne serait-ce déjà qu'au niveau de l'hébergement que l'on payera proportionnellement plus qu'en voyageant à plusieurs, avec souvent aussi la certitude de récolter la plus mauvaise chambre ou la pire des tables quand il s'agit du resto.
En matière d'hébergement justement si vous souhaitez partager votre chambre pour faire des économies (ou des rencontres), le plus simple après avoir choisi celle-ci est d'attendre à la réception l'arrivée d'un(e) autre solitaire pour lui proposer le partage (vous pouvez aussi laisser un message en ce sens à l'accueil); ça marchera neuf fois sur dix.
2.3- Intendance
De même, si l'on compte camper, faire sa cuisine, ou si l'on est assez chargé, personne ne sera là non plus pour porter une partie du matériel. En parallèle, on ne trouvera pas toujours le moyen de faire garder ses affaires pendant que l'on cherchera par exemple un hôtel, et nul ne partagera les longues attentes à faire la queue pour un billet de train ou de bus. Et puis il faudra assumer seul toutes les tâches habituelles du voyage (change, réservations, etc).
2.4- Risques
Mais de tous, l'inconvénient majeur demeure en cas de problèmes ou au niveau des risques (évitez d'ailleurs de partir seul s'il y en a trop) notamment pour les voyageuses. Et il est vrai que les voleurs de tous pays préféreront toujours s'attaquer aux personnes seules. Sans oublier qu'il est encore moins réjouissant d'être malade quand on n'a personne avec soi ou que l'on subit ce que l'on pourrait appeler "le stress du voyage et le choc des cultures".
Enfin à force de vivre seul ses voyages, ou simplement avec des gens de rencontres, un sentiment de frustration peut à la longue s'installer. L'impression d'avoir vu et vécu plein de choses que finalement on ne peut partager avec aucun de ses proches.
3- Trouver et choisir ses coéquipiers
Avec au choix la possibilité de trouver ses compagnons avant ou pendant le voyage.
Ceux qui redoutent particulièrement la solitude auront cependant intérêt à les chercher avant plutôt que d'espérer en trouver, pour un même itinéraire et une même durée, en cours de route. Toutefois, surtout dans le cadre d'un long périple, n'oubliez pas que le but et les envies de chacun (budget, centre d'intérêts, activités, notion de confort, etc) doivent converger un minimum pour espérer réussir son voyage.
3.1- En cours de route
Si vous cherchez en cours de route, au delà du hasard, n'hésitez pas à laisser des messages dans le hall des hôtels (et pas que les vôtres) en privilégiant d'ailleurs au niveau hébergement les lieux disposant de salle TV, terrasses, jardins, etc, qui facilitent la rencontre avec d'autres voyageurs. Profitez également des transports en commun qui laissent du temps pour les rencontres, favorisez les meilleures adresses mentionnées dans le Guide du Routard (elles sont toujours citées en premier) si vous cherchez des francophones, et des Lonely Planet (ou éventuellement Rough Guide) pour avant tout des voyageurs anglophones.
Et puis bien sûr allez vers les autres, sans vous poser trop de (fausses) questions du style "comment vais-je les aborder?", et le cas échéant n'hésitez pas à dire que vous en avez marre de voyager seul(e); les refus seront rares. Mais attention quand même de ne pas apparaître non plus par la suite comme un fardeau ou une contrainte pour vos nouveaux coéquipiers.
3.2- Avant le départ
Pour trouver des coéquipiers avant le départ le plus commode reste la petite annonce à passer dans le forum "Compagnons de voyage" de VF qui peut d'ailleurs être aussi utilisé pour une recherche en cours de route.
De façon générale, pour une annonce soyez précis dans votre texte, n'hésitez pas à détailler qui vous êtes, ce que vous attendez et le type de voyage envisagé. Pour éviter ensuite les déceptions, prenez vos précautions en ne cherchant pas la veille du départ. Choisissez des équipiers (plusieurs si vous redoutez les tête-à-tête) qui partagent si possible les mêmes intérêts et la même façon de voyager que vous. Discutez et "testez-vous" avant, y compris dans les conditions du voyage à venir s'il s'agit d'un trek, d'un périple à vélo et surtout en bateau.
Situation fréquente, n'oubliez pas non plus que si "coéquipier cherche coéquipière" (ou l'inverse), au delà de l'aspect purement voyage, risquent fort tôt ou tard d'entrer en ligne de compte d'autres considérations plus personnelles, notamment s'il s'agit de longues durées. Autant en être conscient et ne pas éluder la question vis à vis de soi-même et de l'autre afin d'éviter qu'ensuite le voyage en pâtisse.
Et si vous ne trouvez personne (ce qui serait étonnant), plutôt que de rester à la maison, partez en organisé; certains tour-opérateurs proposent des voyages de groupe ressemblant fort à de l'individuel. Même pour ceux qui souhaitent partir longtemps, sachez en effet qu'il existe des voyages de groupe de plus ou moins longues durées. Cela dit, la pratique demeure quand même plus que limitée en France contrairement à la Grande-Bretagne où nombre de tour-opérateurs locaux proposent des voyages organisés de (très) longue durée sur les cinq continents.
Mais dans tous les cas, n'oubliez pas qu'il en va du voyage à plusieurs comme de la vie de couple: pour que ça marche c'est à chacun aussi et surtout d'y mettre du sien...
Excellente analyse qui a mon sens résume très bien les pour et les contre du voyage en solitaire, ainsi que les divers facteurs dont il faut tenir compte à tout prix pour réussir son voyage.
Sujet très intéressant. J'ai moi-même eu l'occasion de voyager seul à plusieurs reprises et ces expériences m'ont permis de faire de nouvelles rencontres et d'avoir une nouvelle vision de la destination. Je pense qu'il ne faut pas hésiter à aller vers les gens par exemple lorsque l'on se trouve dans une auberge ou alors pourquoi pas s'inscrire à une rencontre Couchsurfing dans la ville où l'on se trouve lors d'un voyage.
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I left my heart’s country eight days ago and returned to my adopted one—or was it the other way around? Scotland-Morvan, Morvan-Scotland, I’m not quite sure anymore.
After a quarter without dragging my slippers around here, even though I’d loudly declared I had no interest left in this site, here I am again!
My imagination never stays fallow for long. Just enough time for my inner land to rest. It gets overgrown with fresh nettles, the kind you can pick without getting stung. Then, it’s time to till the fragrant earth and let the story grow.
I hesitated over where to set this story.
Maybe the Highlands, maybe the Hebrides, maybe the Orkney Islands, maybe the Shetland Islands. All of Scotland is myth—easy to embroider.
But in the end, no. I’d almost be too afraid to bare my soul.
The story will take place at home. Simple, practical.
1)
This morning, I was up well before dawn, feeling a bit grumpy, but nothing a bowl of coffee won’t fix. I love my bowl, and no one dares take it. It’s porcelain, edged with intertwined blue flowers. On the bottom, it says "Revol." The factory has existed long before the Revolution. It was my great-grandmother’s bowl. She drank roasted barley from it during the war, then her Leroux chicory.
Last year, a little guy dropped it. My bowl broke into three pieces. A black anger vibrated deep inside me. The little boy was so upset, on the verge of tears. How could I scold him!
I picked up the three pieces and took Little Boy in my arms. His hair smelled of the light, sweet sweat of toddlers. A gentle hug that healed—his budding sorrow and my anger—everything vanished, and time carried on.
Today, my bowl is even prettier. Man fixed it using the traditional kintsugi technique, except he didn’t use gold powder or lacquer but superglue, and he delicately painted the cracks with woad blue. And my bowl is even more beautiful now.
I’m lingering, I can tell—it’s just that a story wraps itself in life, and life can’t be told in the snap of a finger. Life is long. Like in architecture, you start with a rough sketch, called a "sous-cul" (the initial pencil drawing), then you make a tracing, which is the work itself, the one you later carefully roll up in a wooden tube.
Life is like that: you erase, you start over, you use the nub of the pencil until it’s tiny, but you keep going—dreaming, loving.
"Living is a full-time occupation, a unique adventure. Always a surprise and a wonder, which sometimes turns into astonishment. And, from time to time, happiness."*
Alright, enough digressing—this introduction is definitely too long.
Tomorrow, I’ll get to the heart of the matter.
(I hate that expression; it feels like I’m cutting into someone’s skin.)
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Many of us have noticed that bugs have been making it difficult to navigate the forum lately.
I’ll let Kate and Ticapi explain the issue:
I went to your profile to check out the Thailand travel journal, and when I clicked on it, it brought me back here again. All week, I’ve been dealing with bugs like this—it’s really discouraging from continuing on VF.🙁
I had the same thing happen, and multiple times. For me, it was Montagnard’s latest journal that kept coming up no matter which discussion I clicked on.
Hi everyone, fellow travelers!
I’m looking for anyone who’s in Kyoto or planning to visit Nishiki Market! Here’s the thing: during our trip there in April, we discovered a jewelry artisan (highly recommended!) on the left when exiting through the west exit of Nishiki Market (which is a long covered east-west street). I bought a piece of jewelry for my daughter there, but she lost it. I’d love to buy her another one! In the photo, it’s the shop with the yellow awning to the right of the restaurant with the blue awning, "Sushi Sakai." Would any kind soul be willing to get the shop’s name, email, or phone number for me? Despite my Google/AI searches, it’s nowhere to be found. A thousand thanks to whoever can help me out! Wishing you all great vacations!
Sabrina
Hello everyone! 🙂🙂,
A BIG thank you to all the travelers who sent us postcards this year—my students are becoming real geography whizzes!!!!!!!! I’m renewing my call for your kindness this year! We’re also working on food, so if your postcards can make our mouths water with local dishes, traditional meals, or typical recipes, that’d be amazing!!
Here’s a quick recap of the project:
I’m reaching out to all travelers and globetrotters on this forum. I’m a teacher in Creuse, working in a ULIS program (which welcomes children aged 6 to 12 with disabilities into a mainstream school). This year, I’m starting a school journal project that will involve the kids in many different topics. A big part of the journal will focus on opening up to the world, diversity, travel, countries, culture...
I’m launching a call to invite as many of you as possible to send us a little postcard (from France or anywhere in the world!) to take us on a journey and help us discover new places, countries, and horizons—much more fun and exciting than a regular geography textbook! One section of our journal could be called "We received mail from " and would be an opportunity to research that location and share what we learn with our readers (a super enriching activity in class).
The project starts in September 2025 but has no real end date, as this journal and world discovery initiative will span several school years (the kids stay in my ULIS program for multiple years). Postcards can be sent anytime—throughout the year, across seasons, even during holidays! (The kids will find them when they return.)
I hope this idea appeals to as many of you as possible and that you’ll spread the word to your fellow traveler friends. Make us dream, take us on a journey!!!
For those who’d like to write to us in a language other than French, no problem—quite the opposite!!
Thank you in advance for your participation(s)! Below is our address. Feel free to leave your own address on a corner of the postcard if you’d like us to write back! 😊
The ULIS program students
Bonnat Elementary School
12 rue Georges Sand
23220 BONNAT
Thank you, and see you soon, I hope! 😁
Julien
Regarding the amount of tobacco you can buy during a trip in the European Union and bring back to France, we can't really talk about a "duty-free allowance," because the rules around how much tobacco you can bring back to France aren't straightforward at all under French law.
BOLIVIA: THE COUNTRY ON THE BRINK (What's Really Happening)
A dramatic saga is unfolding before our eyes in the Andes. Between suffocating blockades, clashes, an international airlift, and historic political decisions, Bolivia has just experienced 48 hours of rare intensity.
Here’s the full breakdown (economic, social, and political) of the last 48 hours:
For travelers and tourists: the article also includes an important note about the upcoming publication (starting tomorrow) of the precise status of roadblocks, route by route.
I’ll post the full update here on Voyage Forum!
Don’t miss this in-depth analysis. History is being written before our eyes! https://www.petitherge.com/bolivie-paralysie-et-ultimatum
I just discovered a great show on Arte.
It's called "7 en route": seven young European journalists travel around Europe in a fully converted bus, making reports on every city they visit. It's amazing! 🙂
Yesterday, for example, they were in Rome, Italy, and the reports included things like the world's smallest restaurant—a super romantic spot for two. There was also a report on the king of paparazzi in Italy.
They have to pick topics that let us discover the little quirks of each country. And at the end of each episode, we get to see the finished report.
It's such a great show, mixing journalism, travel, and discovery—basically, a must-watch!
It airs in the evening starting at 6:50 PM (I think), and it started this past Monday, July 14th.
If you watch it, let me know—we can chat about it!
I’m Yann, a 28-year-old TikToker who loves traveling!
Since I’ve been to several destinations, I’d love to get a flag from each one as a sort of trophy. But from what I’ve seen online, a lot of sites sell them with what looks like really poor quality...
So I’m reaching out to you all to share a site you usually use—help me start my collection! :)
hi there
I’d love to get some opinions—I’ve never used Airbnb before.
They’re offering a key handover via lockbox.
Any tips or advice?
Is it reliable?
Best,
Hi there, I’m Laura, and I’m looking for a few people to answer some questions so I can understand your travel wishes and challenges. It won’t take long—I can chat here, by email, or by phone. Don’t worry, I’m not selling anything! 😊
On this forum, we talk a lot about trekking in the Himalayas, but I’d love to share another side of Nepal: its spiritual, cultural, and religious atmosphere, especially in Kathmandu.
Nepal, much like Tibet and Bhutan, is deeply connected to the Himalayas—the ultimate sacred mountain range. This small country exudes a calming vibe, shaped by a strong spiritual dimension. What I loved most was the unique sensory experience you get there. Walking around temples and tantric monasteries, a distinct scent fills the air—aromatic plants used for ritual fumigation. Locals mainly burn Himalayan juniper, cedar, sandalwood, and other local essences. This fragrant smoke is a way to purify the space and reach the deities, and you’re constantly enveloped in these aromas.
Another striking aspect is the sound. As soon as you step outside, you hear bells ringing in front of temples. People ring them three times before praying to announce their presence to the deities. Nepal is also the birthplace of singing bowls and sound meditation practices. In Kathmandu, you can easily find meditation sessions or "sound baths."
The spiritual dimension is everywhere: a Hindu sadhu practicing asceticism, a lama in deep red robes with his mala, turning a prayer wheel while murmuring "Om mani padme hum." Newar Buddhism, Tantrism, and Hinduism coexist harmoniously in daily life.
For those who love exploring a destination through its culture and spirituality, Nepal is an unforgettable place. What was your spiritual experience in Nepal like?
Hi,
I’m landing in Quebec and then heading to New Brunswick and Nova Scotia. I’d like to rent a pick-up. My question is: does this vehicle come with a cover and is it secure enough to store luggage in? I’ve heard two conflicting opinions. Thanks
I just installed the Maps.Me app on my phone. I only recently found out about this app. I’m traveling in 2 weeks and a few days, and I’m a bit stuck on how to use it.
I’m from the Montreal (Quebec) area, and I’d love to know if there’s a kind soul out there who could help me get started and use the app at least minimally.
If there are private lessons available, I’d be interested in those too.
Like many others, I’m overjoyed to hear that VoyageForum is reopening! I’ve been waiting hopefully for this, and it’s wonderful that it’s finally happening!
I just couldn’t bring myself to actively participate in other French-language travel forums—their format and way of doing things never appealed to me as much. I really hope that VF’s structure, categories, and interface won’t change too much despite the handover, because I’m very attached to them. Through thick and thin, the site has held strong—it’s amazing!
In a previous message, François mentioned that there were positions to fill ahead of the reopening, including moderators...
I’ve been eagerly waiting for this and hoping to send in my CV.
Now, after reading the latest message, it seems like the team is already fully formed. But are there still a few spots left to fill?
I’ve been a VF member for 20 years (since 2004). I’d love to contribute to this wonderful adventure as a moderator if VF would trust me with the role. If the team is open to reviewing it, I’m ready to send my CV. Could you let me know the next steps?
I’m planning a 3-week trip to Japan in May with Voyage Privé. The package includes a 5 GB eSIM, but my phone isn’t new enough to support it. VP told me I could buy a SIM card when I arrive at the airport.
Sure enough, I’ve seen online that this is possible with different providers.
I only need it for checking routes, looking up addresses, train schedules, etc.—basically using Google Maps, TripAdvisor, and similar apps. No heavy downloads or major internet use. All hotels should provide free Wi-Fi for that, right?
Has anyone got any tips for me on this? What have you tried, and how much did it cost?
Thanks for your help!
I’d like to know if you can buy reef-safe sunscreen sprays at 7-Eleven. If so, how much do they cost? We’re traveling with backpacks, so we’ll either buy 100ml here or in Thailand.
I wanted to share a really unpleasant experience from our last trip booked with Promoséjours and organized by FTI.
We booked an 8-day/7-night stay in Egypt, from June 8 to 15.
The flight initially scheduled was changed a week before departure to take off at 10 PM from Paris CDG.
In the end, it took off with a 1-hour delay and included an unmentioned stopover in Marsa Alam.
We landed in Hurghada at 4 AM and arrived at the hotel at 6 AM.
So, we spent our first night on the plane.
For the return trip, surprise—the flight was moved up. We left the hotel at 10:30 PM on Friday the 14th to take off at 2 AM and land at 7 AM at Paris CDG.
So, we spent our last night on the plane too.
After sending a complaint letter to Promoséjours / FTI, they replied that the first and last days can be dedicated to transport (which I already knew) and that no matter how many nights you book, you’re not guaranteed to spend them in the hotel—it could just as well be on the plane.
I’m really questioning this.
Isn’t there a law that protects customers in cases like this?
Because when I do the math, the first and part of the second day were spent on transport, same for the second-to-last and last day. And I paid for 7 nights for a stay that only lasted 5.
Anyway, I just want to say thanks to them—thanks to their two sleepless nights in transit, I’m coming back even more exhausted from a trip that was supposed to be restful!
I also want to warn anyone booking through this agency about visas for Egypt.
At booking, they told me the visa was included in the price, then they sent me an email saying I’d have to pay for it on-site at 25 €.
Once there, we were directed to a special line for FTI customers, and guess what? They charged us 30 €!
Basically, they’re great at making sure you *enjoy* your vacation—mostly by enjoying your wallet!
If anyone has dealt with this kind of situation and won their case, I’m all ears.
Hi there!
I’m heading to Thailand for two months.
So I thought I’d get a Thai SIM card to use Google Maps for getting around cities, mostly.
Here’s my question: will this SIM affect my apps? Or will they work the same as with my Orange SIM?
Is there any setup I need to do, or can I just pop in the Thai SIM?
I’d also like to switch back to my Orange SIM now and then while I’m in Thailand—on the same phone. Will I need to reset the phone, or will it reconnect without any issues?
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Best,
Huiclos
Hi, I’d like to know where we can buy beer or wine in Chefchaouen and around Merzouga. We’ll be doing a circuit and staying at the Parador Hotel in Chefchaouen and in a bivouac in Merzouga.
Thanks for any info you can share!
Hello everyone,
I’m reaching out to all travelers and globe-trotters on this forum. I’m a teacher in Creuse working in a ULIS program (which welcomes children aged 6 to 12 with disabilities into a mainstream school). This year, I’m launching a school journal project that will involve the kids in many different topics. A big part of this journal will focus on opening up to the world, embracing differences, travel, global cultures, and more.
I’m putting out a call to invite as many of you as possible to send us a postcard (from France or anywhere in the world)! The goal is to help us "travel" and discover new places, countries, and horizons in a way that’s much more fun and exciting than a geography textbook. One section of our journal could be called "We received a letter from ," where we’d research the location and share what we learn with our readers—a really enriching activity for the classroom.
The project starts in September 2025 but doesn’t have a strict end date, since this journal and world-discovery initiative will span several school years (the kids stay in the ULIS program for multiple years). Postcards can be sent anytime—throughout the year, across seasons, even during holidays! The kids will find them when they return.
I hope this idea appeals to as many of you as possible, and that you’ll spread the word to your fellow travelers. Help us dream and explore!
For those who’d like to write to us in a language other than French, no problem—quite the opposite!
Thank you in advance for your participation! Below is our address. If you’d like us to write back, feel free to leave your address on a corner of the postcard! 😊
ULIS program students
Bonnat Elementary School
12 rue Georges Sand
23220 BONNAT
Thank you, and I hope to hear from you soon! 😊
Julien
🙂
Hi there! I have to leave Ivato/Antananarivo on December 16th. I have a lot of ariary that I’d like to exchange for euros since I might not be coming back to Madagascar (after this 21st trip). I think the exchange office at Ivato also buys ariary back. If any of you have seen the rate for this buyback in advance, thanks a million!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for a website that would let me plot my travel route in advance so I can print it out. The idea is to create a map with a little “me” on a bike that my parents can move along as I progress, since I’m planning to cycle all the way to Nepal.
If any of you have done something similar or know of a good tool, I’d love to hear your tips!
Thanks in advance! 😊
I'm looking to buy an ultra-lightweight 50/55L travel backpack with a suitcase or front opening.
Does anyone have any brand and/or model recommendations?
Thanks,
Emma
Hello. We’re a retired couple heading to Sri Lanka from January to March. After the November floods, I’d like to know if we can offer hands-on help to the locals, maybe pack some clothes or other items people might need in our luggage, and who we could give them to. Thanks for any info from those on the ground.