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J'aimerai partir en Asie du Sud Est, 3 semaines, mais ne me décide pas. Quel pays est resté le plus naturel et sans trop de touristes
Que choisir en Asie du Sud-Est
by Kaki46
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
B🙂njour/(Khmer)Soursdey/(Malais)Selamat/(Birman)Mingala ba Jacqueline,
Félicitations pour votre projet Sud Est Asiatique.
Sans élan particulier pour aucun, difficile effectivement d'"acheter" un Pays et donc renoncer (pour l'heure) à d'autres, d'autant plus que chacun des 3 (Malaisie, Myanmar&Cambodge) a sa singularité (ressenti perso, pour les avoir visités tous, à des "âges" différents).
Ne connaissant que très peu vos attentes&goûts (), je me contenterais juste de souffler quelques pistes de réflexion:
-Les 3 ont chacun leurs trésors naturels: jungle, littoral/plages...
-Les 3 attirent bien moins de visiteurs que le "phare" Thaï.
-Entre les 3, en termes de: * "Confort" de séjour (transports, hébergement, Cuisine, langue-Anglais-...): la Malaisie (car plus riche) me semble distancer ses "concurrentes"; * Liberté de circulation: le Myanmar, avec ses zones interdites, souffre de la comparaison avec * Patrimoine culturel: nul site en Malaisie n'a l'aura d'Angkor Vat au Cambodge et de Bagan en Birmanie, même si la Malaisie Péninsulaire régale de son unique multiculturalisme (magnifiques mosquées, temples Chînois, Hindous...). * Accueil, gentillesse&coolitude: balle au centre héhé, excellent chez les 3.
Une question toutefois peut faciliter votre sélection: la période de votre séjour.En effet, la Côte Est Malaisienne, notamment, bénéficie des "meilleures" conditions climatiques en période d'été Boréal. Il est à noter que les dates de votre trip ne trouveront, pour chacune des destinations, la même fréquentation touristique, cette dernière fluctuant au gré des mois (vacances scolaires..).
En espérant vous avoir aidé dans votre Cornélien pesage et me tenant aimablement à votre dispo pour tous compléments d'infos.
Cdlt,
Yell😉wmop.
Félicitations pour votre projet Sud Est Asiatique.
Sans élan particulier pour aucun, difficile effectivement d'"acheter" un Pays et donc renoncer (pour l'heure) à d'autres, d'autant plus que chacun des 3 (Malaisie, Myanmar&Cambodge) a sa singularité (ressenti perso, pour les avoir visités tous, à des "âges" différents).
Ne connaissant que très peu vos attentes&goûts (), je me contenterais juste de souffler quelques pistes de réflexion:
-Les 3 ont chacun leurs trésors naturels: jungle, littoral/plages...
-Les 3 attirent bien moins de visiteurs que le "phare" Thaï.
-Entre les 3, en termes de: * "Confort" de séjour (transports, hébergement, Cuisine, langue-Anglais-...): la Malaisie (car plus riche) me semble distancer ses "concurrentes"; * Liberté de circulation: le Myanmar, avec ses zones interdites, souffre de la comparaison avec * Patrimoine culturel: nul site en Malaisie n'a l'aura d'Angkor Vat au Cambodge et de Bagan en Birmanie, même si la Malaisie Péninsulaire régale de son unique multiculturalisme (magnifiques mosquées, temples Chînois, Hindous...). * Accueil, gentillesse&coolitude: balle au centre héhé, excellent chez les 3.
Une question toutefois peut faciliter votre sélection: la période de votre séjour.En effet, la Côte Est Malaisienne, notamment, bénéficie des "meilleures" conditions climatiques en période d'été Boréal. Il est à noter que les dates de votre trip ne trouveront, pour chacune des destinations, la même fréquentation touristique, cette dernière fluctuant au gré des mois (vacances scolaires..).
En espérant vous avoir aidé dans votre Cornélien pesage et me tenant aimablement à votre dispo pour tous compléments d'infos.
Cdlt,
Yell😉wmop.
Vous oubliez les Philippines encore pas mal "sauvages" je trouves...
“Le temps sera le maître de celui qui n'a pas de maître.”
Bonsoir,
Effectivement, je n'y pensais pas. Cela pourrai convenir. Nous essayons de trouver une destination à mi-chemin entre la Calédonie ou vit ma fille et la France. Nous ne voulons pas trop manger de temples, mais ne pas les zapper complètement, mais aussi voir du patrimoine naturel. Je ne sais pas ou vous êtes photographié, mais je suis allée en Patagonie en février. Kaki
Effectivement, je n'y pensais pas. Cela pourrai convenir. Nous essayons de trouver une destination à mi-chemin entre la Calédonie ou vit ma fille et la France. Nous ne voulons pas trop manger de temples, mais ne pas les zapper complètement, mais aussi voir du patrimoine naturel. Je ne sais pas ou vous êtes photographié, mais je suis allée en Patagonie en février. Kaki
B🙂nsoir Jacqueline,
Bon, on vient d'en passer 2 à la Mannschaft, vous êtes ptêtre au courant LooLça c'est fait: wunderbar!!!
Revenons à nos moutons: vos précisions sur la période de votre séjour (fév), vos attentes de séjour (du site naturel surtout, saupoudré de temples) plaident effectivement, selon moi aussi, pour le Cambodge&Laos, plutôt que pour la Malaisie.Pour avoir visité les 2, vous recommande particulièrement un circuit en boucle (c'est bien les boucles), au départ de Bangkok/Thaïlande (pour des raisons économiques, BKK étant une plaque tournante aérienne), passant au Laos par sa frontière Lao-Thaï Nord, redescendant le long du Mékong (via Luang Prabang, Ventiane, les 4 mille îles..) en direction de Stung Treng/Cambodge, puis poursuivant plein Ouest vers Siem Reap/Angkor Vat pour finir votre séjour Khmer à Phnom Penh avant de boucler la loop à BKK.Cette proposition d'itinéraire vous offrirait, selon moi, Ce que les 2 Royaumes abritent comme paysages les plus majestueux&mytiques: ceux du Mékong et de ses berges. En "transit" vers la NC et ses plages réellement paradisiques , sans "équivalent", pour les avoir comparées, avec celles du Sud-Cambodge, je préconise de zapper ces dernières.
Vous voyez....
A votre dispo pour les détails techniques.
Veinarde!!!!
Yell😉wmop.
Bon, on vient d'en passer 2 à la Mannschaft, vous êtes ptêtre au courant LooLça c'est fait: wunderbar!!!
Revenons à nos moutons: vos précisions sur la période de votre séjour (fév), vos attentes de séjour (du site naturel surtout, saupoudré de temples) plaident effectivement, selon moi aussi, pour le Cambodge&Laos, plutôt que pour la Malaisie.Pour avoir visité les 2, vous recommande particulièrement un circuit en boucle (c'est bien les boucles), au départ de Bangkok/Thaïlande (pour des raisons économiques, BKK étant une plaque tournante aérienne), passant au Laos par sa frontière Lao-Thaï Nord, redescendant le long du Mékong (via Luang Prabang, Ventiane, les 4 mille îles..) en direction de Stung Treng/Cambodge, puis poursuivant plein Ouest vers Siem Reap/Angkor Vat pour finir votre séjour Khmer à Phnom Penh avant de boucler la loop à BKK.Cette proposition d'itinéraire vous offrirait, selon moi, Ce que les 2 Royaumes abritent comme paysages les plus majestueux&mytiques: ceux du Mékong et de ses berges. En "transit" vers la NC et ses plages réellement paradisiques , sans "équivalent", pour les avoir comparées, avec celles du Sud-Cambodge, je préconise de zapper ces dernières.
Vous voyez....
A votre dispo pour les détails techniques.
Veinarde!!!!
Yell😉wmop.
Bonjour,
Certaines îles des Philippines sont restées intactes et très sauvages. d'autres encore peu fréquentées et où la nature n'a pas encore subie trop de dommages et d'autres très touristiques et déjà pas mal abîmées. Les hébergements ne seront pas les mêmes niveau confort dans ces 3 types d'îles.
Certaines îles des Philippines sont restées intactes et très sauvages. d'autres encore peu fréquentées et où la nature n'a pas encore subie trop de dommages et d'autres très touristiques et déjà pas mal abîmées. Les hébergements ne seront pas les mêmes niveau confort dans ces 3 types d'îles.
Avez-vous visité quel pays en Asie ? Je trouve que Birmanie et Cambodge sont un peu similaires. Voulez-vous visiter un autre pays, comme Vietnam ou Singapour, Thaïlande… Mais si vous choisissez ces 3 pays à voir. Je vous conseille de consacrer la plupart des temps en Birmanie, pour non seulement visiter les temples, mais aussi les plages.
Je trouve que Birmanie et Cambodge sont un peu similaires
Comme le sont la France et la Pologne!
Comme le sont la France et la Pologne!
Bonjour,
Pour en revenir à question initiale, le pays qui est resté le plus naturel et sans trop de touristes, sans hésiter je dirai la Birmanie. Il suffit de s'écarter des Bagan, Mandalay, Yangon et Inle pour se retrouver hors des sentiers battus.
Pour en revenir à question initiale, le pays qui est resté le plus naturel et sans trop de touristes, sans hésiter je dirai la Birmanie. Il suffit de s'écarter des Bagan, Mandalay, Yangon et Inle pour se retrouver hors des sentiers battus.
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March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Kanchanaburi:
Kanchanaburi:
Sri Chiangmai:
Soppong:
Tha Wang Pha:
Kanchanaburi:
Kanchanaburi:
Sri Chiangmai:
Soppong:
Tha Wang Pha:
🙂 Hi everyone!
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hi there,
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !
Hi everyone,
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!