Nous avons encore quelques interrogations concernant la ville où nous souhaitons nous installez en septembre prochain au Maroc.
Marrakech c'est notre coup de coeur, notre 1er choix mais aussi la seul ville du Maroc que nous avons visité.
Mais on se demande si on préférerai pas vivre proche de la mer.
Est-ce vous avez des avis, conseils sur les villes bord de mer comme Casa, Agadir, Rabat, Tanger autres?
Nous aimons l'authenticité, la culture, le sport, douceur de vive, climat, activités pour les enfants, la sécurité bien entendu ... l'événementiel
Sachant qu'on soit ouvrir une boutique/atelier sur des produits luxe haut de couture ... dans le milieu de la mode.
De mon point de vue je dirais Rabat. voir Casa
Surtout pour l'activité qui vous permettrait de gagner votre vie.
Bien aussi pour les écoles des enfants.
Vous semblez ne connaitre que Marrakech , il me semble qu'un sejour au Maroc vous permettrait de vous faire une idée plus réaliste de ce pays .
Il est difficile de vous conseiller , les items que vous mettez en avant ne sont pas tous réunis suivant les villes , et surtout quels sont vos moyens financiers ? Certaines villes sont plus chères que d'autres .
Cordialement ,
Hannah
Vous souhaitez vous installer au Maroc et ouvrir un commerce sans rien connaitre du pays sauf Marrakech ?
Comme le dit Hannahannah , on ne peut pas vous conseiller raisonnablement , chacun ses goûts et pour votre entreprise vous allez avoir pas mal de démarches à faire .
Venez tester les grandes villes pour avoir une idée de la vie marocaine et les possibilités qu'elles peuvent vous apporter pour y travailler.
Désolée , mais c'est pas gagné .
Bonjour,
Combien de fois êtes vous allé au Maroc, et y êtes vous déjà aller pour le boulot ou uniquement pour le tourisme. Ce n'est pas du tout la même chose...
Comme tout le monde, je vous conseil avant de vous installer et entamer une nouvelle vie, de séjourner au moins quelques semaines dans la ville avant de vous installer plus longtemps...
Pour Rabat il y a aussi de l'authenticité mais elle est différente.
Il y a aussi des riad, une medina et de beaux endroits.
Cependant, il serait utile de faire une étude de marché pour votre activité si vous devez en vivre à deux parce que trouver du boulot c'est pas simple. Préférence nationale oblige.
Pour les produits de luxe , les marocains avec des moyens sont attachés aux très grandes marques. Il n'achètent pas des produits très chers juste parce que c'est fabriqué par des français.
Ils ont de très bons stylistes formés au Maroc et à l'étranger.
Il faut avoir une notion de leurs critères en terme de luxe avant de vous lancer.
Le coût de la vie reste élevé.. la scolarité et la couverture sociale restent des postes importants.
le logement aussi c'est cher, un appartement à rabat dans un quartier correct c'est 5000 Dh mini par mois .
ps : les marocains aiment beaucoup les touristes un peut moins les expatriés sauf quand ils ont beaucoup d'argent. Et la classe aisée pas toujours très cool voir parfois méfiante.
Nous avons enfin fait notre choix il restera sur Marrakech.
C'est une ville pleine d'authenticité, culturel, vivante, tourisme, avec une population en tout genre.
Le climat est bon, sa situation géographique proche de la mer, desert, montagne est avantageuse.
Si vous avez d'autres adjectifs, opinions sur Marrakech, retour ?
D'après vos réactions je vois qu'ils y a pleins de villes à visiter, choses à faire c'est super.
Avant septembre je vais y revenir plusieurs fois afin de voir les démarches administratives, recherche logement, un local commercial pour une boutique / atelier, l'école etc ...
Concernant le budget j'ai déjà visualisé mais si quelqu'un avec son expérience avec l'ensemble des critères ( car je dois oublier pas mal de choses et les prix seront plus exactes ) ?
Sachant que nous souhaitons vivre une vie simple avec un enfant de 3 ans.
Mais aussi quel quartier pouvez vous nous conseiller pour habiter, ouvrir la boutique, les écoles ?
Marrakech n'est pas un mauvais choix pour votre activité.
Casa aurait été plus "commerciale", mais Marrakech devient une ville où le luxe se développe ces dernières années.
Gueliz, à proximité du "carré Eden" ou de "Plaza" serait un endroit parfait pour votre boutique.
Pour votre habitation, le quartier "Victor Hugo' ou "Targa" serait pas mal.
Les écoles dans ce quartier (lycée Victor Hugo) sont très bien (écoles françaises)
A bientôt, inchallah ...
Au bout du sable, il y a la montagne...
Proverbe Touareg
Prévoyez suffisamment d'argent pour vous installer. plus une réserve de 1 an au moins pour vivre le temps que votre affaire démarre et que vous appreniez l'arabe, vous en aurez besoin pour vos achats.
Pour les loyers faites vous une idée sur le bon coin marocain : Avito
Prévoir aussi un dossier solide pour la carte de résident, ce n'est pas accordé facilement.
http://www.service-public.ma/
Le consulat du Maroc le plus proche de chez vous est à Pontoise.
Vous pourriez y obtenir des renseignements concernant le coté administratif relatif aux personnes étrangères au royaume. et ainsi anticiper la préparation de vos dossiers.
En effet quand on part sur un projet d'expatriation on se doit de bien anticiper et préparer certaines choses tout en gardant en tête l’essentielle et les priorités. Mais il faut laisser une part à l'improvisation, la découverte, la surprise.
Pour information nous avons déjà pas mal voyagé mais aussi vécu à l'étranger.
C'est une nouvelle aventure, un projet de vie qui est murement réfléchi avec ma femme depuis des mois. Et cette destination le Maroc et Marrakech semble nous convenir climat, ambiance, culture … proximité.
Nous sommes conscient que du jour au lendemain on ne peut pas monter un commerce cela demande du temps de la patience, motivation, détermination. Nous en sommes conscients et prêt J
Mais aussi un bon budget bien entendu.
En tout cas n’hésitez pas à nous écrire vos avis, impressions sur la ville, l’ambiance, expérience.
Si vous avez déjà ouvert un commerce sur place ?
Connaissez-vous des sites internet, blogs, ou groupe Facebook d’entraide sur Marrakech ? Ou des personnes aident à l’expatriation.
PS j’y retourne plusieurs fois avant l’emménagement de septembre au plaisir de se rencontrer .
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Hi everyone,
Our trip to Morocco will be from November 3 to 17, in the High Atlas.
Basically, our route would be:
Marrakech - Aït Benhaddou
Skoura - Tinghir - Merzouga
Merzouga via the N12 to Zagora
Zagora - Draa Valley - Marrakech
It seems to be the low season, so I’d love to travel without having to book accommodations in advance. In other countries, pre-booking has restricted us and kept us from visiting unplanned sites. Freedom is important to us, but I’d also like to avoid arriving somewhere and finding nothing available.
What do you recommend? Book ahead or not?
Your advice is always helpful, and thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me.
Roberto
Voici un premier jet pour un itinéraire de 14 nuits durant les vacances de Noël avec 2 ados. Nous aimons particulièrement les randos (rien de trop extrême non plus), c'est ce qui nous motive à aller vers le sud.
- Marrakech (2 nuits)
- Aït Ben Haddou (1 nuit)
- Dadès ( 3 nuits, mais pensions peut-être faire un aller-retour pour les gorges du Todra l'une de ces journées)
- M'hamid (1 nuit)
- Erg Chigaga (1 nuit)
- 4 nuits à caser
- Marrakech (2 nuits)
Bon, je suis consciente que c'est beaucoup de route et on se questionne encore sur le chemin du retour, puisqu'on aimerait bien éviter le Tichkal en janvier, mais de passer par Taroudant semble énormément rallonger le tout. 😕
Si vous avez d'autres suggestions pour un autre itinéraire incluant de chouettes randos, je suis également preneuse.
Aussi, les 4 nuits totales à MRK ce n'est pas tant que ça nous plait, mais c'est que nous arrivons/repartons très tôt le matin outre-mer donc on aimerait bien être un peu reposé avant le long vol.
Sinon autre question :
Pour les randonnées (outre celle dans le désert), est-il préférable d'avoir un guide avec nous ou si les pistes sont bien balisées?
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Hi, I’d like to head to Morocco next week with my car. I’ve looked online at all the different info about the ferry crossing to Tangier, but I’m finding it really expensive. Is there a way to buy tickets in Spain? Or another way to get the Algeciras–Tangier crossing cheaper? Thanks for any tips or info!
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April.
What do you think of this rate?
This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Hi there,
We're planning to visit Egypt between January 25 and February 15, 2027. I looked up the Ramadan dates and found some sites saying it starts on February 8, while others say February 18... Where's the mistake?
Thanks,
Christian
Hi there,
We’re a family of 4 with two boys aged 12 and 10 traveling to Egypt in February.
We’re spending 3 days in Cairo to take our time exploring the city and the sites before heading south.
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available?
-Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)?
-Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?)
- What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!)
- In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid?
- Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country?
- A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you:
- Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why?
- Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies.
- Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car?
- Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years.
Have a great evening,
Roberto
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili?
If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them.
I didn’t find any info on the forum.
Best,
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hi everyone,
We're leaving in early October 2026 and planning to travel from the Aït Bougmez Valley ("Happy Valley") to Skoura/Ouarzazate via Demnate and the R307/N23 route.
Has anyone taken this road recently? Is it passable with a regular car (non-4x4), or is a 4x4 absolutely necessary? Are there any ongoing construction projects or degraded sections to be aware of?
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities.
Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency.
If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling.
We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback!
Safe travels to all,
Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊