Bonjour,
durant mon voyage de 20 jours, j'aimerais passer quelques jours dans le désert ( car en été, il risque de faire chaud). J'aimerais savoir ou je doit aller pour ça? J'aimerais faire une nuit dans le désert, avec tour de dromadaire. J'ai vu Merzouga à plusieurs reprises, mais d'autres noms aussi dont je ne me rappelle plus on traversé mon écran. D'après-vous, quel endroit est le mieux? Je suppose que je doit prendre un tour avec une compagnie pour le désert, en avez vous à me conseillé ? J'aimerais bien ne pas me faire voler sur ce tour ( car je sais cela n'est déjà pas donné) . J'aimerais quelque chose de vraiment authentique... Aussi, je louerais une voiture, est-il possible de laisser une voiture dans une ville proche ( comme ouarzazate) toute la durée du tour au désert?
Merci beaucoup
Bonjour, si vous louez une voiture, il vous faut pour diminuer les frais soit aller jusqu'a Merzouga ou jusqu'a Mahmid (dunes de Chégaga ) et de ces villes vous allez être Harcelé pour vous proposer des randonnée dans les dunes, Dromadaires, 4x4, avec Nuit en Bivouac etc , vous n'aurez plus qu'a faire votre choix;
pour info; un couple a payé en partant de Zagora, avec guide et chauffeur en 4x4, avec bivouac a Chégaga avec repas du soir et petit Dej plus balade dans les dunes la somme de 250e , j'ai trouvé cela très cher !!! mais ce n'est que mon ressenti
cordialement
jlmg
bonjour
En principe, tous les tarifs sont alignés au Maroc, il faut compter 50 euro/jour/personne (ballade, nuit, repas) pour une sortie à dromadaire Je ne pense pas que vous trouviez moins cher (45 euro peut être par miracle ?) ou alors des forumeurs vont réagir et vous donner des bonnes adresses..
Je trouve qu'il y a des endroits plus authentiques, mais plus loin que Merzouga ou M'hamid, je pense au petit campement de Hassan dans le village de Taidelt.. mais il faut aller jusqu'à Fask (passer par Foum Zguid et Tata si vous venez de Ouarzazate ou par Guelmim si vous venez d'Agadir.
le désert (dunes) est un peu loin de Ouarzazate, ce n'est pas la meilleure idée d'y laisser votre voiture.. Ce n'est que mon avis.
bon voyage au Maroc !
vous laissez votre voiture à Mahmid ou à Merzouga, (ou ailleurs selon votre choix) l'agence, l'auberge, avec qui vous partirez veillera dessus. on a encore jamais entendu parler de vol de voiture dans ces endroits ....
on ne laisse pas de voiture à Ouarzazate (beaucoup trop loin des villes du désert)
jamais encore entendu parler d'arnaque sur ces tours dans le désert. les tarifs sont connus.
vous choisissez votre agence sur place, nul besoin de resa avant.
c'est très simple tout cela vous verrez.
bivouac avec départ et retour en dromadaire, repas, nuit, petit déjeuner : de 35 à 45 euros/personne
Bonjour,
Laisser la voiture à Ouarzazate ? Perso, je dirais Non. Trop loin du "Sable".
Selon ton choix, tu te bases sur un hôtel à Zagora ou Erfoud/Merzouga.
La, le gentil hôtelier ou une agence "locale", pourront te proposer le truc que tu souhaites.
-De Zagora, ce sera d'abord Mahmid (par les pistes ?) puis Cheggaga.
-D'Erfoud/Merzouga, ce sera direct vers le sable.
Perso, je dirais:
Nuit à Zagora (Hôtel), laisser la voiture.
Départ Zagora
Mhamid "par les pistes" (repas du midi)
Cheggaga (repas du soir et nuit)
Lac Iriki, Foum'Zguid (repas du midi)
Retour Zagora par la N12 maintenant goudronnée.
Nuit à Zagora, reprise de la voiture.
Tout le monde n'est pas d'accord, mais nous, on aime bien Zagora: Ambiance "Porte du désert", "vraie ville avec son "paseo"" etc...
Foum'Zguid: Son marché, ses petits restaus....
Mais, chacun son truc.....
Les prix , pas savoir because 4x4 perso.
Bonne prépa,
Razul
Bonnes idees 🙂
Mais compte tenu des 20 jours et de tt ce que notre quebecquoise veut voir je craint que le circuit par foym zguid fasse beaucoup.
Sinon oui super sympa !
D'accord merci ! Ouarzazate était un exemple, vu que je ne connais vraiment pas le coin j'ai simplement dit ça comme ça. Je crois que ce sera Merzouga.
Bonjour,
Je reviens vers toi, ayant retrouvé qq infos:
C'était en décembre 2014.
Notre but était, partant de Zagora, de rejoindre Mahmid par qq pistes, puis passer par Cheggaga, le "lac" Iriki, pour atteindre Foum-Zguid (par la piste "Orangina").
La nuit "désert" était donc à Cheggaga; Pour 2, en dîner, soirée "Typique", nuit, Pdéj, c'était 550 Dhm, soit environ 50 euros (enfants gratuits).
Pour qui connait un peu le "désert", (Tassili du Hoggar, Niger, ou les Wadis Jordaniens par ex.) l'ensemble est un peu voire beaucoup"Kitch". Mais pour qui, c'est une "première découverte", ça peut faire une "aventure" et une soirée très sympa !
Nb:
Nous étions donc 6 pers; +1 enfant de 3 ans + 1BB de 5 mois. , Le tout avec 3 véhicules (nos 4x4 perso) .Nous avions passé la "nuit d'avant" à l'hôtel (à Zagora) où nous avions également dîné (pour les enfants, tout gratuit). Nous avons donc, peut-être, bénéficié d'un prix préférentiel, d'autant qu'avec mon épouse, allias "Mère-Grand", l'hôtel en question était notre pt de chute habituel à Zagora ?
Bon Maroc,
Razul
l'auberge est au pieds des dunes .. ils proposent un certains nombre d'activités en partenariat ..
les prix sont raisonnables l'endroit simple et confortable. pas de piscine.
parking.
la chambre nous a été facturée 190 DH pour 2 avec le petit déj.. sanitaire privés pas de clim.
Nous ne sommes pas allées en bivouac car malades. mais ils le proposaient aux environs de 30 €
Le tarif que tu annonces est plus proche de ce que j'ai payé il y a 5 ans que ceux indiqués par d'autres forumistes : 45€ ! 50€ ! 🏴☠️
Le bivouac (1h30 de chameau+repas+nuit+dej) nous avait coûté 25€/personne. Nous étions 7, n'avions rien négocié. Les prix auraient fait un bon de 100% ? 😮
Pour un ami je cherchais justement des infos à ce sujet. Je lui ai conseillé le Maroc, pays proche et encore bon marché quand on voyage avec 3 ados. Déjà, en octobre 2017 ma location de voiture était plus chère qu'en France... Alors excepté les hébergements et les repas, il va falloir qu'il revoie sérieusement son budget !
Je ne connais pas la qualité de la prestation car nous avons annulé. Je pense que c'est comme pour l’hébergement. L'application du tarif de prestation doit être lié au tarif de l'auberge ce qui semblerait logique.
mais 45/50 euros cela ne me surprends pas non plus, car il n'est pas rare de voir des prestations identiques facturées à des tarifs multipliés par 3. cela dépends de la marge de l’intermédiaire.
Le bivouac (1h30 de chameau+repas+nuit+dej) nous avait coûté 25€/personne. Nous étions 7, n'avions rien négocié. Les prix auraient fait un bon de 100% ?
Non les prix sont stables dans la majorité mais ils sont dégressifs en fonction du nombre de personnes.
Bonjour.............
pour info; un couple a payé en partant de Zagora, avec guide et chauffeur en 4x4, avec bivouac a Chégaga avec repas du soir et petit Dej plus balade dans les dunes la somme de 250e , j'ai trouvé cela très cher !!! mais ce n'est que mon ressenti
cordialement
jlmg
Bonjour à tous
Pour un aller et retour ?
Avec la nuit, donc sur deux jours, je ne trouve pas cela tellement cher....
Une location de 4x4 c'est entre 100 et 140€ la journée (je ne parle pas des Dacia.....)
Alors 250€ avec guide, chauffeur, bivouac, repas du soir, petit déjeuner et balade dans les dunes....
Il faut bien que les gens vivent, bientôt, il faudra que tout soit gratuit ou presque...
Bien sûr, il faut regarder les prix, mais la concurrence fait que les tarifs s'alignent d'eux même pour peu que l'on regarde un peu.....
Il peut aussi y avoir des prestations qui paraissent similaires avec des prix différents mais avec un service qui ne sera pas comparable, tout a un prix.....
PS: je ne travaille pas du tout dans le tourisme.....😉
"Commence par faire ce qui est nécessaire, puis ce qui est possible et subitement, tu te surprendras à réaliser l'impossible."
St François D'Assise
Here’s a first draft for a 14-night itinerary during the Christmas break with two teens. We’re especially fond of hiking (nothing too extreme, though), which is why we’re drawn to the south.
- Marrakech (2 nights)
- Aït Ben Haddou (1 night)
- Dadès (3 nights, though we’re thinking of doing a day trip to the Todra Gorge on one of those days)
- M'hamid (1 night)
- Erg Chigaga (1 night)
- 4 nights to slot in
- Marrakech (2 nights)
Okay, I realize this involves a lot of driving, and we’re still debating the return route since we’d like to avoid the Tichka Pass in January, but going through Taroudant seems like it would add *a lot* of time. 😕
If you’ve got other suggestions for an itinerary with great hikes, I’m all ears!
Also, the 4 nights total in MRK isn’t really our preference, but since we’re arriving/departing super early from overseas, we’d like to be a bit rested before the long flight.
Another question:
For hikes (aside from the desert one), is it better to have a guide with us, or are the trails well-marked?
Hi everyone,
Our trip to Morocco will be from November 3 to 17, in the High Atlas.
Basically, our route would be:
Marrakech - Aït Benhaddou
Skoura - Tinghir - Merzouga
Merzouga via the N12 to Zagora
Zagora - Draa Valley - Marrakech
It seems to be the low season, so I’d love to travel without having to book accommodations in advance. In other countries, pre-booking has restricted us and kept us from visiting unplanned sites. Freedom is important to us, but I’d also like to avoid arriving somewhere and finding nothing available.
What do you recommend? Book ahead or not?
Your advice is always helpful, and thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me.
Roberto
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Hi, I’d like to head to Morocco next week with my car. I’ve looked online at all the different info about the ferry crossing to Tangier, but I’m finding it really expensive. Is there a way to buy tickets in Spain? Or another way to get the Algeciras–Tangier crossing cheaper? Thanks for any tips or info!
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April.
What do you think of this rate?
This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Hi there,
We're planning to visit Egypt between January 25 and February 15, 2027. I looked up the Ramadan dates and found some sites saying it starts on February 8, while others say February 18... Where's the mistake?
Thanks,
Christian
Hi there,
We’re a family of 4 with two boys aged 12 and 10 traveling to Egypt in February.
We’re spending 3 days in Cairo to take our time exploring the city and the sites before heading south.
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available?
-Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)?
-Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?)
- What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!)
- In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid?
- Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country?
- A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you:
- Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why?
- Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies.
- Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car?
- Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years.
Have a great evening,
Roberto
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili?
If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them.
I didn’t find any info on the forum.
Best,
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities.
Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency.
If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling.
We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback!
Safe travels to all,
Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
Hi there,
I’m looking for some friendly recommendations for places to stay in Marrakech for 3 nights in June 2026.
In the meantime, have a great day, everyone! Thanks so much in advance.