voici ce que nous emportons de plus ou moins spécial au botswana (sans compter les trucs "normaux" biensur : chaussures, short... 😉 ).
Bon, ce ne sont que des idées, et pour tout dire y a des trucs, on ne les emportera pas... !
Chers vforumistes, à vos claviers pour compléter...
Agrafeuse de bureau pour faire de la couture !
Boussole (si panne de GPS)
Brumisateur ou Spray vitre bien nettoyé et plein d'eau
Cahiers - Carnets - stylos
Ceinture porte-monnaie ?
Corde-ficelle pour étendre le linge
Couverture de survie ?
Couverture-sac polaire
Elastiques
Fil de nylon solide
Grands sac poubelles protège bagages
Lait concentré sucré ?
Lampe qui se branche sur l' Allume cigare ?
Lampes frontales
Savon désinfectant (quand on ne peut pas se laver les mains)
Nécessaire à couture
Permis international que le flic pourra "garder"
Petit tuyau en plastique
pinces à linge et de la ficelle
Porte-clés = cadeaux
Petites Sangles pour maintenir les affaires dans le coffre
Scotch américain (petites réparations)
Serflexe (petites réparations)
Sifflet - pétards - corne de brume... 😉
Soupes lyophilisées ?
Transfo 12V - 220
Sac plastiques vides pour remplir de sable pour se désensabler
Sacs à dos à remplir pour emporter dans la cabine au cas où ils perdent les bagages (c'est du vécu, biensur)
Quoi ? va falloir une troisième valise ? 😊
Et vous allerz me demander pourquoi j'ai payé (abusivement) une taxe de 120 euros au retour pour 4 ou 5 kg de trop....?
A suivre...
Franck
Tanzanie-2010
Kawaza Village
Botswana : https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2037270
Frankcy4, il faut absolument que tu me dises quand tu pars. Moi, c'est pour demain. Si je te croise, on se reconnaîtra sûrement avec nos sifflets!!!
Nous partons en groupe organisé. Nous serons avec des anglophones.
Je vous souhaite un merveilleux voyage!
J'avais pas pensé aux sacs vides pour remplir en cas d'ensablage. Je pense que tu les mets derrière la roue pour qu'elle accroche..mais cela ne se déchiquette pas de suite ?
Pour les pétards je pensais que tu blaguais : fais gaffe à la douane, ça risque de ne pas les faire rire.
Et le petit tuyau ? c'est pour siphonner le reservoir du copain ?
Tous mes appareils electriques se rechargent sur batterie de voiture ou toutes mes piles sont rechargables grace à un transfo sur Batterie.
Je rajoute :
l'aspi-venin, La trousse à médicaments préparée par un toubib qui a vécu la brousse.Plein de lotion anti moustique, de la vitamine B1 et des bracelets anti moustique (ma femme les attire...)la sacoche discrete à mettre sous les vetements pour les passeports et argent liquideLa pince multifonctionLe tire bouchon 😛Quelques soupes lyophilisées en cas de disetteLes jumelles, Le stockeur de données (pour vider les cartes mémoires)Comme je n'ai pas trouvé de sac polaire, je prendrai des petits duvets.
Je reste de la liste est sur le portable de Madame...suite au prochain épisode
Sac plastique : mais cela ne se déchiquette pas de suite ?
En fait l'idéal est de récupérer un sac rigide (genre sac de patates, ou tous sacs de toile) si non, oui effectivement ça se déchiquette assez facilement.
L'astuce c'est de remplir de sable, mais en bisot, pour que la roue n'aie pas une grosse marche à franchir.
C'est plus facile à transporter qu'une planche ou une plaque de désensablement.
Et le petit tuyau ?
Multi usage, mais dans le bon ordre 😉 : transférer le jerrycan de gas oil dans le réservoir prendre une douche depuis un bidon d'eau sur le toit du 4x4 transférer de l'eau du réservoir dans la bouteille permettre à un asthmatique en crise de respirer (vous allez me prendre pour un fou...!) se cacher sous l'eau en respirant avec le tuyau qui dépasse ! Bon j'arrête... c'est l'approche du départ qui rend euphorique.😏😏😏
Les sacs polaires il y en a chez Nature et Découverte, des vert fluo avec capuche... Ohhhh !
Ah purée j'avais oublié le tire bouchon... !
en fait il y en a un dans la trousse de camping fournie par le loueur. Mais t'as raison on sait jamais, dans ce domaine vaut mieux avoir son matériel.
J'avais oublié le spray d'eau marine (sino marin en pharmacie) parce que l'année dernière on a "souffert" de la sécheresse (saignement de nez) en Namibie.
Pour les pétards...
Je ne sais si je blaguais ? ...
Sans doute tu sais ça, mais attention au transfo sur batterie, vérifie bien les watts consommés et n'abuse pas sur la batterie du véhicule (moteur allumé), surtout si pas diesel.
Le stockeur de données
T as pas peur qu'il prenne le sable ou la poussière ton disque dur ??
Une carte 2Go c'est pas moins cher ? Tu fais tes photos à 8 ou 10 Mo ?
A+
Franck
Tanzanie-2010
Kawaza Village
Botswana : https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2037270
Pour le tuyau : pour le transvasement de l'eau à boire : Fais le AVANT d'y mettre du Gasoil 😉
Pour les jumelles : Je pense que c'est vraiment différent du 300 mm et on va se battre pour regarder...
Pour le spray nasal : Bonne idée à retenir !!!
Pour le transfo : uniquement moteur en marche et en roulant bien sûr
Pour le stockeur : il sera à l'abri. Mais j'ai le camesope HD( carte SD de 16 gB = 1H30 de film) et l'appareil photo (K 10 : 10 Mégapixels et prise de photo en raw), comme je pense que cela va mitrailler.....(ma femme courre vite mais elle sait aussi, j'en ai déjà fait l'expérience, passer des heures pour prendre des photos. Donc gros stockage . De plus l'appareil est un vosonic et Junior pourra même regarder un film les jours de grand roulage.
Dernière idée : une petite pelle luge en plastique : pour descendre les dunes de Sesriem !!!!
Je suis en train de regarder pour une loc de telephone satellite car on sera seul. il faut compter une centaine d'euros pour 25 jours (sans les appels)
Salut Franck !
"le spray d'eau marine parce que l'année dernière on a "souffert" de la sécheresse en Namibie."
Excellente précaution (j'ai connu ça aussi en Namibie) mais il y a une alternative pour une protection de plus longue durée : un tube de pommade intranasale, un produit léger mais efficace(je te donne le nom en MP)
et contre la sécheresse des yeux ( et la poussière )-il faut y penser aussi- un collyre ou des mini flacons de serum physiologique.
Franchement les jumelles elles te seront bien utiles lrsq tu voudras regarder au loin alors que ton appareil photos te sera inutile !
Bonne idée de mettre ta liste sur le forum !
N'oublie pas de l'emporter lrsq tu partiras faire toutes ces emplettes ! ! 😛 😎 😎
Bonjour
Je ne sais pas si ce sont ces messages qui m'ont inspirée mais je suis allée au Vieux Campeur ce soir. Il faut dire qu'on part pour un tour Johannesburg Bitswana Namibie la semaine prochaine !
J'ai donc trouvé : le GPS Magellan triton avec un raccord allume cigare l'aspi venin les comprimés purificateurs d'eau la serviette qui se lave facilement, qui sèche vite et qui ne pue pas
que j'avais prévu d'acheter et des trucs que je n'avais pas prévu : les lingettes de nettoyage pour les enfants qui ne se lavent pas un cubitaineur pliable de 16 l pour l'eau potable la lampe torche éblouissante à 30 LEDs qui se recharge sur secteur ou allume cigare
Concernant les importuns, on s'est construit un nouveau patator de voyage. Description sur internet : patator. C'est super. On a épuisé notre stock de pétards au 14 juillet.
On emmène aussi un jerrican supplémentaire 20 l pour le diesel.
Bons préparatifs à tous.
- un cubitaineur pliable de 16 l pour l'eau potable
à ta place, j'achèterais sur place des bouteilles de 5 ou 8 litres d'eau à conserver après les avoir consommées.
On emmène aussi un jerrican supplémentaire 20 l pour le diesel.
Me dis pas que tu emportes ça dans l'avion ...???? 🤪
Il y a en a sur place : le loueur en prête ou en loue, et il y en a dans les magasins...
le GPS Magellan triton avec un raccord allume cigare
Avec un garmin, tu aurais pu charger des cartes T4A de l'afrique australe, avec un Magellan, je sais pas.
Bon tu peux toujours relever tes points sur google earth et faire des Go To...
Bon voyage
Tanzanie-2010
Kawaza Village
Botswana : https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2037270
salut francky4
nous nous sommes parti au mois d'avril et j'ai bien fait d'apporter des bonnets en laine car les nuits sont tres fraiche mais surtout beaucoup d'humidité, sauf dans lechobe.
apres tu trouve pas mal de produit comme chez nous dans les supermarché(avant notre périple nous avons fait toute les courses a kgal centre a l'entrée de gaborone en venant de lobaste, ce centre et comme carrefour ici.
nous ont est parti avec une machette dans la valise mais on en a vu dans les magasins donc pas obligé d'en emporté, achete des allumettes sur place tu en aura besoin(tu ne peut pas en transporter meme en soute).
au fait les flics ne garde pas ton permis international (d'ailleur pas ou peu de controle, uniquement les papiers du vehicule que tu loue).pour te désensabler loue en meme temps que ton vehicule des "sands track" qui coute 16 euro pour les 15 jours(chez britz 4X4 trés bonne compagnie).
pour la securité en vers certain animaux en cas d'attaque mais peut probable, les pétards ne sont pas une mauvaise ideé(impossible de les transporter en soute)pour notre par nous avions pris dans les tentes un tazeur(les animaux craigne l'electricité)ca nous a rassuré et surtout permis d'allumer facilement le feu.
ATTENTION la conduite au botswana est trés dificile dans le sens ou il y a de tout partout c'est a dire en plus des vaches qui te traverse partout, plus les chevres, plus les anes tu a des mirages sur les longue ligne droite, plus avec l'air sec ca te fatigue enormement la vision et tes yeux sont sec je te conseille de prendre du dacryoserum pour te decongestionner les yeux(je te parle meme pas de la conduite de nuit sur les route goudronné les gens sont a pied partout sur les routes ).
PETITE ANECTODE un éléphant nous a traverser la route goudronné a kasane et sur la route du retour entre kasane et nata impressionnant!!.(plus impressionant que sur les pistes car on ne s'y attend pas).
on a pas pris de ceinture pour billet car dans le 4X4 louer il y avait un coffre, de plus on ne se sent pas du tout en insécurité au botswana, les batswanas sont trés acceuillant que ce soit dans les villages reculé, que ce soit dans la capitale ou sur les routes, nous nous sentions tellement en sécurité que nous avons pris des auto stoppeur (ceux que nous ne faisons pas en france).
avec tous ca voila vous avez de la chance d'y aller nous on va y retourner cé sur.
Je te donne la route que nous avons fait, comme ca si tu veut des info c'est avec plaisir qu'on t'aiguillera.
JO, GABORONE, SEROWE, DECEPTION VALLEY, KUMAGA CAMP SITE, MAUN, SAVUTI, IHAHA dans le nord du chobe, et redésente du pays par la route KASANE FRANCISTOWN, GABORONE et JO, voila
a bientot.
bridg
"l'homme, blanc en Europe, noir en Afrique, jaune en Asie, et rouge en Amerique n'est que le meme homme teint de la couleur du climat."
citation de Georges louis leclerc, comte de buffon
Bonjour et merci pour ces informations détaillées.
nous ont est parti avec une machette dans la valise mais on en a vu dans les magasins donc pas obligé d'en emporté, achete des allumettes sur place tu en aura besoin(tu ne peut pas en transporter meme en soute).
Tu sembles dire qu'on ne peut pas emporter des allumettes mais que la machette est passée inaperçue à la fouille ?
C'est quoi ton astuce ?
Concernant Deception Valley, je suis toujours en train d'hésiter à faire une boucle Maun-Maun (pour l'avion) par le nord - bande de caprivi ou par le sud - nata - deception valley - Ghanzi. J'ai l'impression que par cette boucle sud je vais faire pas mal de km pour voire pas grand chose.
Peux tu me donner qq infos sur ce qu'il y a à voir sur cette route sud- nata - Deception valley et en particulier, as tu qq photos et expériences à deception valley ?
merci à toi
Franck
Tanzanie-2010
Kawaza Village
Botswana : https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2037270
bonsoir francky4.
apparement on nous a pas fouillé le sac en soute et tout est passez sans probleme dans les trois aéroport.mais je l'avais lu que les armes blanches n'étaient pas interdite.Mais par contre les explosifs ou matieres inflammable n'est toleré.
je vais te donner mon blog : http://bib31.skyrock.com/ je n'ai pas mis toute les photos encore je n'ai pas encore non plus les photos de deception a part les ecureils du desert, mais nous avons passez qu'une nuit, on a perdu du temps a rakops, dommage.
nous avons vu par contre le camps des anglais owens (je crois que ca s'ecrit comme ca?) les paysages sont fantastique, et la brume le matin c'était formidable on a eu assez froid d'ailleur ca il y a eu un sacré orage ce soir la.
en ce qui concerne les deux boucles ou tu hesite elles sont totalement differente que ce soit par la faune ou la flore, je suppose que tu doit partir entre maintenant et cet hiver donc il faut savoir que tu sera dans la periode la plus arride AU BOTSWANA, la boucle sud passant par le kalahari sera donc particulièrement sèche et avec beaucoup de poussiere, notament dans la region de ghanzi, pour ma part le central kalahari et la region de savuti sont deux endroits particulièrement magique et avec beaucoup moins de touriste et donc nettement plus sauvage, par contre il est beaucoup plus difficile d'y observer les animaux de plus tu n'y verra aucun éléphant (dans le kalahari)il faudrait vraiment une semaine que pour le kalahari pour pouvoir vraiment en profiter.Mais la meilleur période pour moi est de janvier a avril, quand nous y repartirons on le fera le mois de fevrier
donc pour résumer a la période a laquelle tu part tu peut déja eviter la region de ghanzi qui n'a pas d'interet, par contre la traversé depuis NATA a MAKGADIKGADI et a SOWA PAN est facilement faisable pour aller rejoindre RAKOPS puis DECEPTION VALLEY dans le KALAHARI.
et de deception valley retour vers rakops (environ trois heures de pistes)puis reprendre la route pour maun (environ trois heure de route).cet itineraire te plongera dans des paysages fabuleux mais avec peu d'animaux facile a apercevoir.
pour la boucle nord je ne peut te parler que de l'itineraire maun, savuti, nokatsaa et kasane.de maun tu fais une 50 de kms de route, puis aprés que de la piste (le bonheur si tu aime le sable)tu traversera la région du savuti qui est particulierement magique mais a la période ou tu y va beaucoup d'animaux auront migrés vers le nord(pour l'eau)pour moi ca a été la plus belle des régions avec des passages trés sablonneux (tu verra sur mon blog l'autoroute de sable "comme je l'appelle" c'est ma préférée).
Des que tu arrivera vers nogatsaa la difficulté pour avancer ne sera plus de sable profond mais la multitude d'animaux sur les pistes, en effet beaucoup sont regroupé dans cette region.
la pour faire des photos animaliere c'est parfais!!!!il faut dormir au moins une nuit a ihaha tant il est incroyable le nombre d'animaux qui vienne a ta tente pendant la nuit (elephant, buffle, meme hipo qui est venu manger devant notre 4X4 pendant la nuit, les babouins, impala, grand kudu ...
la liste est trop longue!!!!!)de grand moment de bonheur et parfois d'inquietude(on c'est retouvé avec un éléphant qui mangé a dix metres de notre tente et la visite d'un phacochere au ptit dej, a la periode ou on y a été le chobe etait haut et que l'eau été a quinze metre environ de notre emplacement de nuit.tu verra sur les photos du blog.
bonne lecture et a ta disposition pour d'autres renseignements plus precis si besoin est.
bridg.
A BIENTOT
"l'homme, blanc en Europe, noir en Afrique, jaune en Asie, et rouge en Amerique n'est que le meme homme teint de la couleur du climat."
citation de Georges louis leclerc, comte de buffon
bonjour francky4 si tu n'est pas parti je te souhaite un trés bon voyage .a plus tard.
"l'homme, blanc en Europe, noir en Afrique, jaune en Asie, et rouge en Amerique n'est que le meme homme teint de la couleur du climat."
citation de Georges louis leclerc, comte de buffon
Hi there,
I’m considering camping in Nyungwe Park with my family (2 adults, 2 kids) at Uwinka campsite. Problem: the park rents the tent but without any gear (mattresses, blankets). We don’t have a car. Is it possible to rent or buy mattresses and blankets near the park, please?
Thanks for your help
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Hello,
We’re planning a route from Maun to Kazane and Victoria Falls for May 2027 in a Toyota Hilux 4x4, staying in lodges (no camping). Here’s the rough outline:
- Maun: Arrival likely from Johannesburg, 2 nights
- Khwai: 2 nights
- Return to Maun
- Need to decide on a stop between Maun and Sepopa?
- Sepopa: 2 nights
- Cross into Namibia: Bagani, 2 nights
- Kongola: 2 nights
- Katima Mulilo: 2 nights
- Kasane: 3 or 4 nights
- Victoria Falls: 1 or 2 nights
- Return to France from Kasane or Victoria Falls
What’s the road condition like between Maun and Khwai? The stop names are approximate based on accommodations.
Thanks for any feedback on this plan!
Ailleurs 64
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks.
We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old.
We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions:
- How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?).
- Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice.
- I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that.
- Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas!
Gabriel
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg.
This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights).
D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights)
Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai).
D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights).
D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE).
D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6.
If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too.
Thanks! 🙂
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland.
Could you share any tips on:
- the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar)
- your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours
- reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are:
- Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional
- Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive
- Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me.
Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works...
Thanks to everyone for your help.
Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature.
😊🦁
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa?
As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult?
We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :)
We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend.
See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB
D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon
D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger
D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area
D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route)
D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this:
- Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective.
First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...).
That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on.
The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start...
During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.)
The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance.
Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page).
Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water),
– Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places,
– Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly,
– One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
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Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored:
– services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water),
– hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments,
– visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly,
– one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment.
To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone.
Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera
Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo
Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera
Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?)
Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 4: Full day in Tarangire
Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO
Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome...
Thanks
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works.
I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!!
I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh…
Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car??
If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali?
Thanks so much for your help…
Best regards
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be:
- Hwange
- Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona)
- Mana Pools
- Harare
- Gonarezhou
- Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work.
I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts.
So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza
Ngenda
Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi
Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas)
Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions:
-Is French still widely spoken?
-Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info?
-Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back?
-Is it possible to go hiking solo?
-Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share.
Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind.
I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south:
14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie
17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza
20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara
22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants
25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere.
28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel.
29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance!
Nicole
Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’d like to return to Africa and stay in a lodge where I can see animals—not necessarily the Big Five—without needing any transport once I arrive at the lodge, and at a price under $250 per day for two people with full board. The week-long stay is planned for late June into early July. I’m looking for suggestions. Thanks in advance!
Hi, I’d like to travel to Ethiopia as a solo 60-year-old woman, backpacking style, between December 2025 and January 2026.
I’m wondering about the current state of the country: unrest, safety concerns, etc.
Government websites advise against going, saying it’s too dangerous.
But I’m skeptical—they tend to be overly cautious.
So I’m looking for reliable information, though I’m not sure where to find it.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re a group of four seventy-something retirees and we’re planning a 4-week trip to South Africa. We’re seasoned "adventurers" used to multi-week stays (we’ve been to India seven times, Mexico, Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Australia, etc.).
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers.
We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering:
Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later)
Pretoria – 2 days
Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day
Acornhoek – 1 day
Letaba – 2 days
Lobamba – 2 days
Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days
Cape of Good Hope – 1 day
Stellenbosch – 1 day
Hermanus – 1 day
Mossel Bay – 2 days
Oudtshoorn
Wilderness – 2 days
Knysna
Port Elizabeth – 2 days
Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions.
We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!
Hi,
I’m heading to Angola for two weeks starting mid-April and I’d like to rent a car to explore the country, but not a 4x4 to keep my budget in check. I plan to mostly stay in the western part and go as far as the Namibian border. Is it possible to drive in Iona Park without a 4x4, or to get to Kalendula or Piedra Negras? Also, is the Lubango–Huambo–Kuito–Malanje route doable in a city car? Lastly, do gas stations accept Visa?
Thanks for your feedback and tips!
Now that the Kruger part is (almost) wrapped up, I’m looking at the "Cape region" section.
The idea of spending 2 days (well, more like 2 nights and 1.5 days) in the Cederberg is really tempting 😎.
I’ve reread the posts about it—more or less (actually, more less than more)—and I still have quite a few questions:
- Where’s the best area to stay? Initially, I was looking at Kagga Kama, but I’m not sure if it’s worth the cost (or the trip, for that matter), or maybe Mount Ceder? Or somewhere else (without driving 6 or 8 hours from CT 😉)?
The plan is to get there in a sedan (if possible), see some beautiful landscapes, and do one or two hikes (nothing too tough 😛).
- I read that you need a permit to hike there... where do you buy it? (At the entrance, like in Kruger? 🤪)
- Is October a good time for the weather (theoretically...)?