Randonnée en Thaïlande du Nord et de l'Est
by Emmajune
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour à tous,
Nous partons avec mon copain pour 2mois en Thaïlande majoritairement, Laos et cambodge.
Nous sommes des randonneurs ageris sans vouloir nous vanter, et cherchons des randonnées à faire seuls dans les montagnes et les petits villages. Tout les renseignements que je trouve passent par des organismes qui font payer un guide, etc.
Avez vous une carte, une application, ou autres à nous conseiller qui nous permettrait de voyager à la journée ou sur plusieurs jours ?
Merci d'avance
Bonjour,
Personnellement les meilleures cartes d'un coin précis sont celles que l'on imprime au départ de Google Earth.
Une carte globale voir du coté de Michelin. Les cartes d'office du Tourisme sont rarement à l'échelle et on a parfois des surprises.
Personnellement les meilleures cartes d'un coin précis sont celles que l'on imprime au départ de Google Earth.
Une carte globale voir du coté de Michelin. Les cartes d'office du Tourisme sont rarement à l'échelle et on a parfois des surprises.
Bjr
Vous trouverez des cartes routieres avec titres en anglais
Mais pas de cartes de randonnees
Sauf des cartes type ign a tres petite echelle mais du coup toutes en thai
Pas forcement a jour et surtout sans vraiie indication du trajet a suivre
Autre facteur les thais sont tres protectionistes de leur vie privee On ne rentrd pas facilement dans une maison a fortiori quand c est une maison avec une piece sans en plus mentionner la question des toilettes et douche Du coup vous aurez sans aucun soucis de grands accueils souriants Une invitation a partager un diner sur la terrasse Mais ensuite se faire inviter a entrer et a dormir .?? C est a la fois timidite et gene
En pkus de la barriere de la langue
Vous ne trouverez pas ce qu on trouve en se baladant en afrique par ex ou tout le village vient vous voir vous invite de suite etc La en thailande ce sera totalement different
Tout cela pour vous dire que tous ces eccueils langue culture contact et surtout le passage de porte ne se fera que si vous avez un "local" qui connaisse les gens du village et vous ouvre les portes
Bref independemment de la question "monetaire" trouvez vous un bon guide local qui connaisse specifiquement le coin A fortiori si ce sont des villages de minorites donc avec une languee encore autre que le thai
D
Autre facteur les thais sont tres protectionistes de leur vie privee On ne rentrd pas facilement dans une maison a fortiori quand c est une maison avec une piece sans en plus mentionner la question des toilettes et douche Du coup vous aurez sans aucun soucis de grands accueils souriants Une invitation a partager un diner sur la terrasse Mais ensuite se faire inviter a entrer et a dormir .?? C est a la fois timidite et gene
En pkus de la barriere de la langue
Vous ne trouverez pas ce qu on trouve en se baladant en afrique par ex ou tout le village vient vous voir vous invite de suite etc La en thailande ce sera totalement different
Tout cela pour vous dire que tous ces eccueils langue culture contact et surtout le passage de porte ne se fera que si vous avez un "local" qui connaisse les gens du village et vous ouvre les portes
Bref independemment de la question "monetaire" trouvez vous un bon guide local qui connaisse specifiquement le coin A fortiori si ce sont des villages de minorites donc avec une languee encore autre que le thai
D
On eu le siècle des Lumières,
puis un con a dû éteindre
Merci pour vos tuyaux!
Auriez vous a tout hasard des randonnées à me conseiller?
Je comprend qu'ils ne laisse pas rentrer tout le monde chez eux et je ne veux pas leur imposer ca...
D'habitude nous voyageons avec notre couchage, tentes, etc
Est ce mal vu de planter la tente en Thaïlande?
Bjr
Bref independemment de la question "monetaire" trouvez vous un bon guide local qui connaisse specifiquement le coin A fortiori si ce sont des villages de minorites donc avec une languee encore autre que le thai
D
connaissez vous des bon guides qui puisse nous amener dans les régions de l'est?
Bref independemment de la question "monetaire" trouvez vous un bon guide local qui connaisse specifiquement le coin A fortiori si ce sont des villages de minorites donc avec une languee encore autre que le thai
D
connaissez vous des bon guides qui puisse nous amener dans les régions de l'est?
bonjour les aventuriers
Est ce mal vu de planter la tente en Thaïlande?
En dehors des parcs nationaux = oui
Avez vous une carte, une application, ou autres
rubrique Autres, oui, voir un des modes d'emploi >> ICI <<
pour vous répondre + précisément A quelle période partez vous ? (météo, festivités?)
Est ce mal vu de planter la tente en Thaïlande?
En dehors des parcs nationaux = oui
Avez vous une carte, une application, ou autres
rubrique Autres, oui, voir un des modes d'emploi >> ICI <<
pour vous répondre + précisément A quelle période partez vous ? (météo, festivités?)
Bonjour nous souhaitons partir de mi janvier à mi mars.
Mais suivant notre travail nous pourrions avancer le voyage et partir novembre et décembre
nous pourrions avancer le voyage et partir novembre et décembre
A ces périodes vous profiterez pleinement des meilleures festivités voir anglais https://www.tourismthailand.org/home français http://www.tourismethaifr.com/Accueil/index.tpl
A ces périodes vous profiterez pleinement des meilleures festivités voir anglais https://www.tourismthailand.org/home français http://www.tourismethaifr.com/Accueil/index.tpl
Bjr
a noter que en Thailade en decembre janvier, des qu'on monte en altitude, il peut faire tres froid (et humide) avec des temperatres de 10 degres voire moins on trouve des hebergements partout - et dans les parcs nationnaux des tentes de camping pré-installées ( ou des emplaceet camping ) - mais ne comptez pas sur du camping sauvage
La Thailande est n pays riche et les thais se baladent beaucoup le week-end On trouve donc fcilement des guides de randos ( et des randos en petits groupe (avec exclusivement des Thais- donc langue thaie uniquement ) ou en guide privé anglophone ou plus rarement francophone
oui je connasi de bon guides privés de rando (meme thai francophone) mais question budget - à vous de preciser ? un bon guide se paie au moins 60 euro , par jour a cela il faut ajouter son logement ses repas et son transport .. ce qui double ou tiple le cout journalier
a noter que en Thailade en decembre janvier, des qu'on monte en altitude, il peut faire tres froid (et humide) avec des temperatres de 10 degres voire moins on trouve des hebergements partout - et dans les parcs nationnaux des tentes de camping pré-installées ( ou des emplaceet camping ) - mais ne comptez pas sur du camping sauvage
La Thailande est n pays riche et les thais se baladent beaucoup le week-end On trouve donc fcilement des guides de randos ( et des randos en petits groupe (avec exclusivement des Thais- donc langue thaie uniquement ) ou en guide privé anglophone ou plus rarement francophone
oui je connasi de bon guides privés de rando (meme thai francophone) mais question budget - à vous de preciser ? un bon guide se paie au moins 60 euro , par jour a cela il faut ajouter son logement ses repas et son transport .. ce qui double ou tiple le cout journalier
On eu le siècle des Lumières,
puis un con a dû éteindre
Tout d'abord excusez moi pour la longueur de mes réponses...
Me conseilleriez vous de prendre quand même ma tente pour un séjour de 1 mois?
Sachant que j'irai au Laos et au Cambodge pendant 2 semaines. Peut être dans ces pays la tente est elle plus tolérée?
Si vous avez des conseils à me donner sur ces pays aussi je suis preneuse!
🙂 trop cool! Merci pour les infos sur les fêtes et festivités! Je vais étudier ca! 👍👍👍
Bjr
Il n y a pas d interdiction mais simplement je pense que c est inutile et probablementpeu adapte Il y a des logements partout et vraiment pas chers Car il vous faut deja une tente servant de moustiquaire mais qui ne soit pas chaude sauf en montagne Il faut que ce soit plutot hors sol a cause des animaux et en cas de pluie Enfin quand il pleut en general il pleut fort et il fait chaud
Donc a part les tentes suspendues qu on tend entre 2 arbres et faites pour les randos en foret tropicale ?
Il n y a pas d interdiction mais simplement je pense que c est inutile et probablementpeu adapte Il y a des logements partout et vraiment pas chers Car il vous faut deja une tente servant de moustiquaire mais qui ne soit pas chaude sauf en montagne Il faut que ce soit plutot hors sol a cause des animaux et en cas de pluie Enfin quand il pleut en general il pleut fort et il fait chaud
Donc a part les tentes suspendues qu on tend entre 2 arbres et faites pour les randos en foret tropicale ?
On eu le siècle des Lumières,
puis un con a dû éteindre
Merci bon on oublie la tente alors! 😉
auriez vous a me conseiller des sites qui vous ont marqués même si c'est loin de tout? Ou d'autres sites qui ne sont pas peux connu? 🙂
Bjr
95% des touristes etrangers vont aux memes endroits (ceux references dans les guides en langue anglaise et sur Internet ) donc tres facile de se retrouver dans des coins hors tourisme
et donc 95% du pays est zone hors tourisme pour etrangers Par contre alors ce sont des destinations non referencees dans vos guide ni sur internet EN LANGUE ANGLAISE meme si ce sont des lieux du tourisme thai
donc rassurez vous des que vous ferez 1 km de plus que le 'touriste lambda' vous etes en Thailande ''normale''
donc la solution :: vous preparer un iteneraire classique puis des que souhaité , prendre la première deviation a droite ou a gauche
95% des touristes etrangers vont aux memes endroits (ceux references dans les guides en langue anglaise et sur Internet ) donc tres facile de se retrouver dans des coins hors tourisme
et donc 95% du pays est zone hors tourisme pour etrangers Par contre alors ce sont des destinations non referencees dans vos guide ni sur internet EN LANGUE ANGLAISE meme si ce sont des lieux du tourisme thai
donc rassurez vous des que vous ferez 1 km de plus que le 'touriste lambda' vous etes en Thailande ''normale''
donc la solution :: vous preparer un iteneraire classique puis des que souhaité , prendre la première deviation a droite ou a gauche
On eu le siècle des Lumières,
puis un con a dû éteindre
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So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Pascal
Hi there,
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We’re flying from Montreal to Lyon this August to go hiking in the French Alps. We’ve rented a car and will be staying at campgrounds. We’re planning to do day hikes and want to stay a few days in one spot, do a few hikes, then move on to our next camping spot. Could you share your favorite spots or any recommendations for places to spend a few days with great hikes?
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
Hi there,
I’m planning to go hiking on this island and would like to know the best time to do it. I visited for a few days in November 2018—not for hiking but just to explore—and the weather wasn’t great, especially in the mountains. So, is a star-shaped itinerary doable if I rent a car and maybe use two different accommodations?
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
hi there,
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
Hi,
I’d like some advice on doing the Camino de Santiago—or part of it—from the Basque Country.
Best,
Hi there,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.







