Restauration en Thaïlande?
by Crazyhorse
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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🙂nous partons pour 3 semaines en Thail
ande Noel Nouvel an
je voudrais savoir si le plat national n'est pas devenu, pizza spaghetti comme dans beaucoup de pays??
merci à tous😎
Y a peu de risque que cela arrive pour l'instant même si Ronald Mc Donald pointe son nez même jusqu'en Issan 🙁
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
c'est vrai que maintenat c'est difficile de pas voir une enseigne macdo dans une ville mais bon , pour le moment ya quand même plus de somtam que de big mac si tu rentres pas dans les centres commerciaux , ce qui m'inquiète plus, c'est le nombre d'ados qui se ruent sur ces fast food et pas seulement celui cité plus haut, la dernière fois, j'y ai vu des queues impréssionantes !😕
🙂nous partons pour 3 semaines en Thail
ande Noel Nouvel an
je voudrais savoir si le plat national n'est pas devenu, pizza spaghetti comme dans beaucoup de pays??
merci à tous😎
...La Thaïlande résiste bien à l'envahisseur...😎
...La Thaïlande résiste bien à l'envahisseur...😎
Chacun possède la force créatrice de l'univers. Il crée sa réalité et se doit d'en assumer les conséquences.
Le Bouddha Gautama, vers 500 av J.C.
🙂nous partons pour 3 semaines en Thail
ande Noel Nouvel an
je voudrais savoir si le plat national n'est pas devenu, pizza spaghetti comme dans beaucoup de pays??
merci à tous😎
...La Thaïlande résiste bien à l'envahisseur...😎
Comme beaucoup de pays...
...La Thaïlande résiste bien à l'envahisseur...😎
Comme beaucoup de pays...
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Pas encore comme dit Thuan, mais cela progresse tous les jours... Les infames saucisses des Seven eleven remportant ainsi un franc succés. Et les KFC aussi....
"Le touriste apparait comme le principal agent de diffusion du mépris anti touristique. Plus le touriste se voit en miroir de l'autre, plus il le déteste".
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
Y a peu de risque que cela arrive pour l'instant même si Ronald Mc Donald pointe son nez même jusqu'en Issan
Bon, j'avoue que n'ai pas pu m'empêcher de foutre une baffe à l'infâme Ronald de Phuket Town la dernière fois que je l'ai croisé. Vous pouvez maintenant me traiter d'anti-américaniste primaire....
Mais bon la plupart des thaïs ne peuvent, par ex, même pas manger une part de pizza... Tout ce qui est "wan keupay" (trop gras ou trop sucré), en général ils évitent.
Donc pour répondre à la question : non pas encore pizza, spaghetti et autres mets occidentaux bien que tu puisses en trouver dans toutes les villes.
Bon, j'avoue que n'ai pas pu m'empêcher de foutre une baffe à l'infâme Ronald de Phuket Town la dernière fois que je l'ai croisé. Vous pouvez maintenant me traiter d'anti-américaniste primaire....
Mais bon la plupart des thaïs ne peuvent, par ex, même pas manger une part de pizza... Tout ce qui est "wan keupay" (trop gras ou trop sucré), en général ils évitent.
Donc pour répondre à la question : non pas encore pizza, spaghetti et autres mets occidentaux bien que tu puisses en trouver dans toutes les villes.
profitons de cette vie si courte!!! Ao sanuk mak mak touk touk wan. (I wanna enjoy life everyday)
BONJOUR
bien sur dans tous les coin touristique on trouve les macdo ou pizzahot
mais on peut tres bien s en passer
et il y a toujour toute sorte de resto thai a tous les prix
bonne appeti
et il y a toujour toute sorte de resto thai a tous les prix
bonne appeti
aroythai
🙂merci à tous pour vos infos
je vous ai demandé ça, parce que partout ou presque , c'est la nourriture internationale et comme je ne suis pas allée en Thailande depuis 4 ans, je me demandais si ça ne c'était pas étendu chouette on pourra encore manger de la bonne cuisine avec beaucoup de légumes bonne journée à tous😎
je vous ai demandé ça, parce que partout ou presque , c'est la nourriture internationale et comme je ne suis pas allée en Thailande depuis 4 ans, je me demandais si ça ne c'était pas étendu chouette on pourra encore manger de la bonne cuisine avec beaucoup de légumes bonne journée à tous😎
Les pizzas, hamburgers et autres nourritures des chaînes de restauration rapide sont "relativement" chers en Thaïlande où l'on trouve presque à tous les coins de rues de quoi se sustenter pour une trentaine de bahts par plat (voire moins) en mangeant local dans de petits "boui-bouis".
Donc, pour cette raison économique (et quelques autres), les Thaïlandais n'ont pas encore été trop occidentalisés dans leurs habitudes culinaires, même si, hélas, les jeunes mangent de plus en plus de cochonneries (snacks, chips, etc.) entre les repas.
Donc, pour cette raison économique (et quelques autres), les Thaïlandais n'ont pas encore été trop occidentalisés dans leurs habitudes culinaires, même si, hélas, les jeunes mangent de plus en plus de cochonneries (snacks, chips, etc.) entre les repas.
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Les pizzas, hamburgers et autres nourritures des chaînes de restauration rapide sont "relativement" chers en Thaïlande
Donc, pour cette raison économique (et quelques autres), les Thaïlandais n'ont pas encore été trop occidentalisés dans leurs habitudes culinaires
Une société montante, qui à compris le bon compromis, Qualité/prix/service/respect de la tradition : http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=fr&sl=en&u=http://blackcanyoncoffee.com/branches/thailand.php&ei=5t3XSoHHCNaLkAWJrKHLCA&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=2&ct=result&ved=0CBIQ7gEwAQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dthailande%2Bblack%2Bcanyon%26hl%3Dfr%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den%26sa%3DG Quelque fois des inégalités entre 2 franchises mais, rarement déçu Beaucoup de Thaïlandais de la classe moyenne les fréquentes
Une société montante, qui à compris le bon compromis, Qualité/prix/service/respect de la tradition : http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=fr&sl=en&u=http://blackcanyoncoffee.com/branches/thailand.php&ei=5t3XSoHHCNaLkAWJrKHLCA&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=2&ct=result&ved=0CBIQ7gEwAQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dthailande%2Bblack%2Bcanyon%26hl%3Dfr%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den%26sa%3DG Quelque fois des inégalités entre 2 franchises mais, rarement déçu Beaucoup de Thaïlandais de la classe moyenne les fréquentes
Cette question est un peu bizarre...dans tous les pays du monde tu peux encore manger des plats locaux si tu le souhaite non?
Que la population mange de plus en plus ds les fast food ne veut pas dire que le touriste doive le faire...😊
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Bjr,
La Thaïlande ayant inventé son propre "fast food take away" bien avant l'ouverture du premier MacDo, on peut penser qu'elle va bien résister à la malbouffe...
...et ici le jambon-beurre résiste aussi!😉


Chacun possède la force créatrice de l'univers. Il crée sa réalité et se doit d'en assumer les conséquences.
Le Bouddha Gautama, vers 500 av J.C.
Tokara, en me citant, vous avez supprimé la partie qui fait toute la différence dans mon message précédent, à savoir qu'on peut se nourrir à presque tous les coins de rues pour une trentaine de bahts par plat (voire moins), ce qui n'est pas possible dans les établissements de la chaîne que vous cherchez (semble-t-il) à promouvoir.
En revanche, en plus des petites échoppes sur rue et autres boui-bouis, il est aussi possible de manger des plats thaïlandais dans les restaurants des hypermarchés pour un prix modique (autour d'une trentaine de bahts environ). Le cadre est probablement plus hygiénique, mais les quantités sont souvent un peu moins importantes et la saveur plus aseptisée que dans les petits établissements sur rue.
En revanche, en plus des petites échoppes sur rue et autres boui-bouis, il est aussi possible de manger des plats thaïlandais dans les restaurants des hypermarchés pour un prix modique (autour d'une trentaine de bahts environ). Le cadre est probablement plus hygiénique, mais les quantités sont souvent un peu moins importantes et la saveur plus aseptisée que dans les petits établissements sur rue.
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Rien ne vaut un bon steak de crocodile a Nong khai au bord du Mekong, avec en prime quelques bons vins, et tout ca entre amis passionnes de l'I-ssan ..Y'a des moments comme ca qu'on oublie pas. Isn't it ?
Un exellent repas bien partage, ca n'a pas de prix.😉
A+😎
A+😎
Sur l'arbre qui donne des pommes il n'y a pas de citrons...
Rien ne vaut un bon steak de crocodile a Nong khai au bord du Mekong, avec en prime quelques bons vins, et tout ca entre amis passionnes de l'I-ssan ..Y'a des moments comme ca qu'on oublie pas. Isn't it ?
Un exellent repas bien partage, ca n'a pas de prix.😉
A+😎
Le steack de crocodile, ce n'était pas à Nong Khai (c'était au sud de Thabo, sur la route qui rejoint la voie rapide n°2 en direction d'Udon Thani), mais les bonnes soirées entre amis, ça n'a pas de prix en effet. 🙂
A+😎
Le steack de crocodile, ce n'était pas à Nong Khai (c'était au sud de Thabo, sur la route qui rejoint la voie rapide n°2 en direction d'Udon Thani), mais les bonnes soirées entre amis, ça n'a pas de prix en effet. 🙂
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OK , mais c'est dans quelle province? Udon ?
Sur l'arbre qui donne des pommes il n'y a pas de citrons...
OK , mais c'est dans quelle province? Udon ?
Non. C'est encore la province de Nong Khai à cet endroit, mais on n'est déjà plus au bord du Mékong (il y a un petit étang en revanche).
Non. C'est encore la province de Nong Khai à cet endroit, mais on n'est déjà plus au bord du Mékong (il y a un petit étang en revanche).
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Tout ce qui est "wan keupay" (trop gras ou trop sucré), en général ils évitent.
😮😮???? Heu... Moi j'ai tendance à trouver leur bouffe, bien que délicieuse, trop grasse et trop sucrée... Pas moins qu'une bonne pizza ou qu'une bonne plâtrée de spaghetti (d'ailleurs c'est quoi le problème avec ces 2 plats italiens?😛), en tous cas!!!
😮😮???? Heu... Moi j'ai tendance à trouver leur bouffe, bien que délicieuse, trop grasse et trop sucrée... Pas moins qu'une bonne pizza ou qu'une bonne plâtrée de spaghetti (d'ailleurs c'est quoi le problème avec ces 2 plats italiens?😛), en tous cas!!!
...😮????
Heu... Moi j'ai tendance à trouver leur bouffe, bien que délicieuse, trop grasse et trop sucrée... Pas moins qu'une bonne pizza ou qu'une bonne plâtrée de spaghetti (d'ailleurs c'est quoi le problème avec ces 2 plats italiens?😛), en tous cas!!!
En ce qui concerne les mets locaux, tout dépend des plats et de leur assaisonnement (beaucoup de plats ne sont ni gras, ni sucrés à l'origine, mais on peut y ajouter du sucre, des cacahuètes, du piment, diverses sauces et huiles, par exemple, le "on" pouvant être le cuisinier ou le consommateur selon les cas)... mais pour les pizzas, ce qu'on trouve souvent en Thaïlande ressemble plus à la pizza américaine (on aime ou on n'aime pas) plutôt qu'à l'italienne (dans les chaînes, franchises, ou en portion comme par exemple dans les 7-Eleven). On trouve aussi des restaurants traditionnels italiens tout à fait corrects au Pays du Sourire (mais habituellement, ils sont "relativement" chers pour la population locale : ils sont fréquentés principalement par la classe "supérieure" thaïlandaise, les expatriés et certains touristes).
En ce qui concerne les mets locaux, tout dépend des plats et de leur assaisonnement (beaucoup de plats ne sont ni gras, ni sucrés à l'origine, mais on peut y ajouter du sucre, des cacahuètes, du piment, diverses sauces et huiles, par exemple, le "on" pouvant être le cuisinier ou le consommateur selon les cas)... mais pour les pizzas, ce qu'on trouve souvent en Thaïlande ressemble plus à la pizza américaine (on aime ou on n'aime pas) plutôt qu'à l'italienne (dans les chaînes, franchises, ou en portion comme par exemple dans les 7-Eleven). On trouve aussi des restaurants traditionnels italiens tout à fait corrects au Pays du Sourire (mais habituellement, ils sont "relativement" chers pour la population locale : ils sont fréquentés principalement par la classe "supérieure" thaïlandaise, les expatriés et certains touristes).
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Peut-être que ca dépend aussi de la région, peut-être que les habitudes alimentaires changent...
Ici, je peux te dire que la quantité d'huile dans laquelle baigne tout plat a frire n'a rien a envier aux pizzas américaines! Avec la quantité d'huile qu'ils utilisent pour cuire une simple omelette, je devrais pouvoir en cuire une petite vingtaine! 😄 sans compter tous les plats et soupes au gras de porc (avec un tit bout de viande aussi de temps en temps mais c'est pas systématique)... Et les snacks sucres? J'adore mais qu'est-ce que c'est sucre la plupart du temps!!! 😛 (une bonne roti au lait écrémé et au sucre, qui a bien frit dans l'huile c'est booooon!!! 😏) Et tous les thaïs que je connais mettent un minimum de 2 cuillerées de sucre dans leur café... Alors permets moi d'être surprise de lire que les thaïs ne se mettrons pas au mc do car ils ne supportent pas la cuisine trop grasse et trop sucrée... Disons que cela ne corrobore pas vraiment mes observations personnelles quotidiennes! Je crois plutôt que c'est une question de moyen comme l'ont dit plusieurs d'entre nous déjà.
Ici, je peux te dire que la quantité d'huile dans laquelle baigne tout plat a frire n'a rien a envier aux pizzas américaines! Avec la quantité d'huile qu'ils utilisent pour cuire une simple omelette, je devrais pouvoir en cuire une petite vingtaine! 😄 sans compter tous les plats et soupes au gras de porc (avec un tit bout de viande aussi de temps en temps mais c'est pas systématique)... Et les snacks sucres? J'adore mais qu'est-ce que c'est sucre la plupart du temps!!! 😛 (une bonne roti au lait écrémé et au sucre, qui a bien frit dans l'huile c'est booooon!!! 😏) Et tous les thaïs que je connais mettent un minimum de 2 cuillerées de sucre dans leur café... Alors permets moi d'être surprise de lire que les thaïs ne se mettrons pas au mc do car ils ne supportent pas la cuisine trop grasse et trop sucrée... Disons que cela ne corrobore pas vraiment mes observations personnelles quotidiennes! Je crois plutôt que c'est une question de moyen comme l'ont dit plusieurs d'entre nous déjà.
😮😮????
Heu... Moi j'ai tendance à trouver leur bouffe, bien que délicieuse, trop grasse et trop sucrée... Pas moins qu'une bonne pizza ou qu'une bonne plâtrée de spaghetti (d'ailleurs c'est quoi le problème avec ces 2 plats italiens?😛), en tous cas!!!
Salut Mathilde,
Perso, je ne trouve pas leur bouffe trop grasse car à part le kaopat, quand les plats sont accompagnés de riz, c'est du riz nature ce qui fait une grosse différence avec notre nourriture occidentale ou on ajoute automatiquement de la matière grasse.
Ensuite ce qui accompagne le riz peut effectivement être gras, je te l'accorde mais c'est loin d'être une généralité et combien de fois j'ai vu des thais se contenter de "khao gniou" avec un "som tam pou" ou un "lap"...... On ne peut pas dire que ce soit gras.
Mais il y a bien de la bouffe thai bien grasse comme les "prickkengdeng" (red curry) ou "keng kio wan" (green curry) qui sont à bases de "kati" (lait de coco). Tous ces plats un peu gras à base de kati, sont (en tous cas il me semble) beaucoup plus consommés par les farangs que par les thais. Après dans le gras, il y a évidemment toute la nourriture "thot" (frite) qui n'est pas mauvaise du tout d'ailleurs.....
Attention au excès Mathilde😏 Tu n'as manifestement pas l'air d'être le genre de te contenter de khao gniou avec un som tam ou un lap.....😄😏
Bref, tout ca pour dire que la nourriture consommé le plus courrament est effectivement beaucoup moins grasse qu'une platrée de spaghetti ( aussi bonne soit-elle😉) ou de pizza.... ( d'ailleurs je te retourne la question, c'est quoi le problème avec ces deux plats ?😮?)
En tous cas première fois que j'entends dire que la bouffe thaie est grasse.....
Salut Mathilde,
Perso, je ne trouve pas leur bouffe trop grasse car à part le kaopat, quand les plats sont accompagnés de riz, c'est du riz nature ce qui fait une grosse différence avec notre nourriture occidentale ou on ajoute automatiquement de la matière grasse.
Ensuite ce qui accompagne le riz peut effectivement être gras, je te l'accorde mais c'est loin d'être une généralité et combien de fois j'ai vu des thais se contenter de "khao gniou" avec un "som tam pou" ou un "lap"...... On ne peut pas dire que ce soit gras.
Mais il y a bien de la bouffe thai bien grasse comme les "prickkengdeng" (red curry) ou "keng kio wan" (green curry) qui sont à bases de "kati" (lait de coco). Tous ces plats un peu gras à base de kati, sont (en tous cas il me semble) beaucoup plus consommés par les farangs que par les thais. Après dans le gras, il y a évidemment toute la nourriture "thot" (frite) qui n'est pas mauvaise du tout d'ailleurs.....
Attention au excès Mathilde😏 Tu n'as manifestement pas l'air d'être le genre de te contenter de khao gniou avec un som tam ou un lap.....😄😏
Bref, tout ca pour dire que la nourriture consommé le plus courrament est effectivement beaucoup moins grasse qu'une platrée de spaghetti ( aussi bonne soit-elle😉) ou de pizza.... ( d'ailleurs je te retourne la question, c'est quoi le problème avec ces deux plats ?😮?)
En tous cas première fois que j'entends dire que la bouffe thaie est grasse.....
profitons de cette vie si courte!!! Ao sanuk mak mak touk touk wan. (I wanna enjoy life everyday)
Rien ne vaut un bon steak de crocodile a Nong khai au bord du Mekong, avec en prime quelques bons vins, et tout ca entre amis passionnes de l'I-ssan .
En parlant steack de croco, on peut en trouver aussi facilement à Chiang Mai.... Mais ca a sûrement beaucoup moins de cachet que votre resto en Issan et en plus c'est dans un resto "farang" Mais je dois avouer que c'était bon......😉
En parlant steack de croco, on peut en trouver aussi facilement à Chiang Mai.... Mais ca a sûrement beaucoup moins de cachet que votre resto en Issan et en plus c'est dans un resto "farang" Mais je dois avouer que c'était bon......😉
profitons de cette vie si courte!!! Ao sanuk mak mak touk touk wan. (I wanna enjoy life everyday)
En tous cas première fois que j'entends dire que la bouffe thaie est grasse.....
Pareil + 1 .
Pareil + 1 .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
d'ailleurs je te retourne la question, c'est quoi le problème avec ces deux plats ?😮?
Ben... Je me referais a la question de départ:
je voudrais savoir si le plat national n'est pas devenu, pizza spaghetti comme dans beaucoup 😉de pays??
c'est du riz nature ce qui fait une grosse différence avec notre nourriture occidentale ou on ajoute automatiquement de la matière grasse.
Arfff! Ca doit dépendre d'où on vient aussi alors parce que j'ai toujours mange mon riz sans matière grasse (l'auto-cuiseur trône depuis des années chez mes parents)... On a pas mal évolué dans nos façons de cuisiner depuis nos grands parents, quand même! De toutes facons, je ne pense pas que le petit bout de beurre que mettent beaucoup d'entre nous dans leur riz ne puisse rivaliser avec les fritures a la thaïe... Mais bon, on n'est pas des spécialistes non plus... Il faudrait une analyse, la!
combien de fois j'ai vu des thais se contenter de "khao gniou" avec un "som tam pou" ou un "lap"...... On ne peut pas dire que ce soit gras.
je ne connais pas le "khao gniou" mais pour le lap, que j'adore, quand c'est un lap mou, ici, j'ai tendance a faire le tri entre morceaux de viande et morceaux de gras... Si je faisais le tri sérieusement, je crois bien que j'en laisserais la moitie (mais j'évite car les thaïs ne comprennent pas que j'enlève le gras dans les plats, en général!) 😏 Mais je t'accorde que la salade de papaye n'est pas grasse, elle! 🙂
il y a évidemment toute la nourriture "thot" (frite) qui n'est pas mauvaise du tout d'ailleurs.....
Ben... ca représente une partie non négligeable de la bouffe thaïe, quand même!! 😉
Attention au excès Mathilde😏 Tu n'as manifestement pas l'air d'être le genre de te contenter de khao gniou avec un som tam ou un lap.....😄😏
Certes, des fois, je craque et je vais me payer une bonne pizza au gogonzola (a l'italienne), j'avoue... 😊 Mais ne t'inquiète pas pour la ligne, je suis loin d'être poum pouy! J'ai plus souvent la remarque contraire avec un regard inquiet 😏... Qui me vaut des cadeaux réguliers de mes voisines qui se battent pour me remplumer! hé hé!
Ben... Je me referais a la question de départ:
je voudrais savoir si le plat national n'est pas devenu, pizza spaghetti comme dans beaucoup 😉de pays??
c'est du riz nature ce qui fait une grosse différence avec notre nourriture occidentale ou on ajoute automatiquement de la matière grasse.
Arfff! Ca doit dépendre d'où on vient aussi alors parce que j'ai toujours mange mon riz sans matière grasse (l'auto-cuiseur trône depuis des années chez mes parents)... On a pas mal évolué dans nos façons de cuisiner depuis nos grands parents, quand même! De toutes facons, je ne pense pas que le petit bout de beurre que mettent beaucoup d'entre nous dans leur riz ne puisse rivaliser avec les fritures a la thaïe... Mais bon, on n'est pas des spécialistes non plus... Il faudrait une analyse, la!
combien de fois j'ai vu des thais se contenter de "khao gniou" avec un "som tam pou" ou un "lap"...... On ne peut pas dire que ce soit gras.
je ne connais pas le "khao gniou" mais pour le lap, que j'adore, quand c'est un lap mou, ici, j'ai tendance a faire le tri entre morceaux de viande et morceaux de gras... Si je faisais le tri sérieusement, je crois bien que j'en laisserais la moitie (mais j'évite car les thaïs ne comprennent pas que j'enlève le gras dans les plats, en général!) 😏 Mais je t'accorde que la salade de papaye n'est pas grasse, elle! 🙂
il y a évidemment toute la nourriture "thot" (frite) qui n'est pas mauvaise du tout d'ailleurs.....
Ben... ca représente une partie non négligeable de la bouffe thaïe, quand même!! 😉
Attention au excès Mathilde😏 Tu n'as manifestement pas l'air d'être le genre de te contenter de khao gniou avec un som tam ou un lap.....😄😏
Certes, des fois, je craque et je vais me payer une bonne pizza au gogonzola (a l'italienne), j'avoue... 😊 Mais ne t'inquiète pas pour la ligne, je suis loin d'être poum pouy! J'ai plus souvent la remarque contraire avec un regard inquiet 😏... Qui me vaut des cadeaux réguliers de mes voisines qui se battent pour me remplumer! hé hé!
Tout ce qui est "wan keupay" (trop gras ou trop sucré), en général ils évitent.
😮😮???? Heu... Moi j'ai tendance à trouver leur bouffe, bien que délicieuse, trop grasse et trop sucrée... Pas moins qu'une bonne pizza ou qu'une bonne plâtrée de spaghetti (d'ailleurs c'est quoi le problème avec ces 2 plats italiens?😛), en tous cas!!!
Bjr, un diététicien pourrait vous entretenir des graisses animales ou végétales...Je ne trouve pas la bouffe thaï grasse, mais ce qui est sûr c'est que de nombreux asiatiques ont du diabète amené par le riz. A chaque cuisine ses maux...!
😮😮???? Heu... Moi j'ai tendance à trouver leur bouffe, bien que délicieuse, trop grasse et trop sucrée... Pas moins qu'une bonne pizza ou qu'une bonne plâtrée de spaghetti (d'ailleurs c'est quoi le problème avec ces 2 plats italiens?😛), en tous cas!!!
Bjr, un diététicien pourrait vous entretenir des graisses animales ou végétales...Je ne trouve pas la bouffe thaï grasse, mais ce qui est sûr c'est que de nombreux asiatiques ont du diabète amené par le riz. A chaque cuisine ses maux...!
Chacun possède la force créatrice de l'univers. Il crée sa réalité et se doit d'en assumer les conséquences.
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je ne connais pas le "khao gniou" mais pour le lap, que j'adore, quand c'est un lap mou, ici, j'ai tendance a faire le tri entre morceaux de viande et morceaux de gras... Si je faisais le tri sérieusement, je crois bien que j'en laisserais la moitie (mais j'évite car les thaïs ne comprennent pas que j'enlève le gras dans les plats, en général!) 😏
Mais je t'accorde que la salade de papaye n'est pas grasse, elle! 🙂
il y a évidemment toute la nourriture "thot" (frite) qui n'est pas mauvaise du tout d'ailleurs.....
Ben... ca représente une partie non négligeable de la bouffe thaïe, quand même!! 😉
Encore une fois, la nourriture thaie n'est pas exempte de nourriture grasse mais la plupart des thais sont très pointilleux sur ce qu'ils mangent (je ne vais pas jusqu'à parler de certains coins en Issan où on mange encore des clebs).
Ce qui a pour conséquence que la nourriture consommée quotidiennement n'est quant à elle pas ou peu "grasse". La nourriture dite "grasse" est plus consommée occasionnelement et en petite quantité.
Sinon "khao gniou" = "riz gluant" et on est bien d'accord au moins sur le "lap mou". D'ailleurs c'est le préféré de pas mal de personne j'ai l'impression.
Certes, des fois, je craque et je vais me payer une bonne pizza au gogonzola (a l'italienne), j'avoue... 😊
Bah là, il n'y a vraiment pas de honte à ca, surtout pour une expat.....😏😉
il y a évidemment toute la nourriture "thot" (frite) qui n'est pas mauvaise du tout d'ailleurs.....
Ben... ca représente une partie non négligeable de la bouffe thaïe, quand même!! 😉Encore une fois, la nourriture thaie n'est pas exempte de nourriture grasse mais la plupart des thais sont très pointilleux sur ce qu'ils mangent (je ne vais pas jusqu'à parler de certains coins en Issan où on mange encore des clebs).
Ce qui a pour conséquence que la nourriture consommée quotidiennement n'est quant à elle pas ou peu "grasse". La nourriture dite "grasse" est plus consommée occasionnelement et en petite quantité.
Sinon "khao gniou" = "riz gluant" et on est bien d'accord au moins sur le "lap mou". D'ailleurs c'est le préféré de pas mal de personne j'ai l'impression.
Certes, des fois, je craque et je vais me payer une bonne pizza au gogonzola (a l'italienne), j'avoue... 😊
Bah là, il n'y a vraiment pas de honte à ca, surtout pour une expat.....😏😉
profitons de cette vie si courte!!! Ao sanuk mak mak touk touk wan. (I wanna enjoy life everyday)
(je ne vais pas jusqu'à parler de certains coins en Issan où on mange encore des clebs).
allons y gaiement, à Nakhon Phanom par exemple...😉 mmm, un délice...
allons y gaiement, à Nakhon Phanom par exemple...😉 mmm, un délice...
Quand l'eau baisse les fourmis mangent les poissons; quand l'eau monte les poissons mangent les fourmis.
Il n'y a que le changement qui ne change pas.
Et c'est gras, le chien? 😛
Bonjour voisine
pour ma part, et sans avoir fait une étude scientifique, j'ai le trés fort sentiment que le poids moyen des Thailandais et thailandaises en particulier a fortement augmenté depuis vingt ans. Quand à ne pas aimer le sucre, il suffit de voir les gosses dans les seven eleven, et toutes les saloperies sucrées (boissons, bonbons, biscuits, qu'ils achêtent. sans parler des Chips chips...
pour ma part, et sans avoir fait une étude scientifique, j'ai le trés fort sentiment que le poids moyen des Thailandais et thailandaises en particulier a fortement augmenté depuis vingt ans. Quand à ne pas aimer le sucre, il suffit de voir les gosses dans les seven eleven, et toutes les saloperies sucrées (boissons, bonbons, biscuits, qu'ils achêtent. sans parler des Chips chips...
"Le touriste apparait comme le principal agent de diffusion du mépris anti touristique. Plus le touriste se voit en miroir de l'autre, plus il le déteste".
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
Salut Henri,
Pour illustrer ton propos, un exemple de ce que tu dis avec cet article sur le BLOG de Thierry a Udon 😉
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
il suffit de voir les gosses dans les seven eleven, et toutes les saloperies sucrées (boissons, bonbons, biscuits, qu'ils achètent. sans parler des Chips chips...
Ha oui, j'oubliais tout ca encore... Nous avions une épicerie a une époque, des que des gens rentraient avec un enfant, même si celui-ci ne demandait rien, il repartait toujours avec des bonbons, gâteaux et/ou chips! Et pas que les petits, les ados et bien des adultes achetaient souvent ce genre de saleté, je crois qu'au final, c'est ce qu'on vendait le plus! Moi, ca me faisait halluciner de voir tout ce qu'ils pouvaient acheter dans le genre! 😕 Pourtant, c'est pas le genre de village ou l'argent coule a flot...
merci, Boum, pour le lien vers le blog de Thierry... 🙂
Ha oui, j'oubliais tout ca encore... Nous avions une épicerie a une époque, des que des gens rentraient avec un enfant, même si celui-ci ne demandait rien, il repartait toujours avec des bonbons, gâteaux et/ou chips! Et pas que les petits, les ados et bien des adultes achetaient souvent ce genre de saleté, je crois qu'au final, c'est ce qu'on vendait le plus! Moi, ca me faisait halluciner de voir tout ce qu'ils pouvaient acheter dans le genre! 😕 Pourtant, c'est pas le genre de village ou l'argent coule a flot...
merci, Boum, pour le lien vers le blog de Thierry... 🙂
Et c'est gras, le chien? 😛
goûtu, , , , en fait, on voit pas trop la différence lorsque la viande est hachée, mélangée avec des oignons et du coriandre....
goûtu, , , , en fait, on voit pas trop la différence lorsque la viande est hachée, mélangée avec des oignons et du coriandre....
Quand l'eau baisse les fourmis mangent les poissons; quand l'eau monte les poissons mangent les fourmis.
Il n'y a que le changement qui ne change pas.
la différence avec quoi?
un laap de boeuf, de porc, de poulet voire même de lapinou ou de chat 😇😄😄😏😏😉 Le piment et la coriandre font la différence.
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
un laap de boeuf, de porc, de poulet voire même de lapinou ou de chat 😇😄😄😏😏😉 Le piment et la coriandre font la différence.
Même du chien tu ne verrais pas la différence avec le piment coriande et tout le reste . 😉
Même du chien tu ne verrais pas la différence avec le piment coriande et tout le reste . 😉
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Bref, tout ca pour dire que la nourriture consommé le plus courrament est effectivement beaucoup moins grasse qu'une platrée de spaghetti ( aussi bonne soit-elle😉) ou de pizza.... ( d'ailleurs je te retourne la question, c'est quoi le problème avec ces deux plats ?
En lisant ceci, je m' imaginais la tête d' une amie en Issan en train de manger une belle pizza aux 4 fromages qui , pour une thai, refoule bien du goulot 😐 🙁 🤪 ...
Imaginez, du lait bien pourri avec des croutes ... Je connais peu de Thais qui apprécient le fromage, mais je ne connais peut être pas les bons ? ( les Thais, pas les fromages 🙂 !!.... )
Z38
Imaginez, du lait bien pourri avec des croutes ... Je connais peu de Thais qui apprécient le fromage, mais je ne connais peut être pas les bons ? ( les Thais, pas les fromages 🙂 !!.... )
Z38
un laap de boeuf, de porc, de poulet voire même de lapinou ou de chat 😇😄😄😏😏😉 Le piment et la coriandre font la différence.
T'exagère! Entre le poulet et le porc, en tous cas, la différence est nette, avec ou sans coriandre! 😏 Ils mangent du lapin a Bangkok? Pasque chez nous, c'est plutôt impensable! 😄
T'exagère! Entre le poulet et le porc, en tous cas, la différence est nette, avec ou sans coriandre! 😏 Ils mangent du lapin a Bangkok? Pasque chez nous, c'est plutôt impensable! 😄
Ils mangent du lapin a Bangkok?
Le lapin ?? c'est très très rare qu'un thaï mange du lapin pour eux c'est un animal domestique .
Le lapin ?? c'est très très rare qu'un thaï mange du lapin pour eux c'est un animal domestique .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Ben oui, ici, en tous cas, c'est comme ca mais a la capitale ou dans les régions du nord de la péninsule, je ne sais pas moi... mais j'ai entendu que certains thaïs mangeaient du lapin.
Ben oui, ici, en tous cas, c'est comme ca mais a la capitale ou dans les régions du nord de la péninsule, je ne sais pas moi... mais j'ai entendu que certains thaïs mangeaient du lapin.
Ils sont rare alors je peux te le dire , tiens une anecdote , un jour à Phuket une amie elle a un lapin dans son jardin comme animal domestic et un jour en blaguant je lui dit tiens demain on va manger le lapin il est bien gras maintenant , je te dis pas les yeux de revolver qu'elle m'a lancer et son mari français n'en mener pas large .
Ils sont rare alors je peux te le dire , tiens une anecdote , un jour à Phuket une amie elle a un lapin dans son jardin comme animal domestic et un jour en blaguant je lui dit tiens demain on va manger le lapin il est bien gras maintenant , je te dis pas les yeux de revolver qu'elle m'a lancer et son mari français n'en mener pas large .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Bonjour,
Il y a eu un poste a ce sujethttp://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2097229;search_string=lapin;, dans le nord il y a des lapins sauvage (je n'en ai jamais vu), ils sont chassé et consommé comme du rat, haché avec les os, comme d'ailleurs le poulet il y a peut, donc immangeable pour moi qui n'aime pas avoir des éclats d'os plein la bouche, quant j'ai lu Boumbastique parlant du Laab, j'adore le LaabKaprao, mais seulement sans os, donc pas de rat (qui ne me répugne pas du moment qu'il est coupé sans éclats d'os), de poulet (sauf sans os), pas de lapin, oui au canard et au porc.
Il a aussi été évoqué la cuisine grasse, les vieux évoquent le temp ou deux trois morceaux de sucre de palme, et une bouteille d'huile durait des mois, actuellement le PhadThaï, est gorgé d'huile et surtout recouvert de sucre, même ma femme (qui n'est pas vieille) ce souvient du temp ou il ne fallait pas précisé, sans sucre, beaucoup d'aliments frits, mais heureusement ce pays offre le choix et il est possible d'éviter les nourritures qui ne correspondent pas a nos desiderata, et chacun choisi ce qui lui plait. Je m'étonne de l'ampleur qu'a denouveau pris ce post avec une question que je trouve vraiment très secondaire, dailleurs il y a assez de fruits pour les gens désirant manger sainement.
Salut a vous noble Barbot
un laap de boeuf, de porc, de poulet voire même de lapinou ou de chat
tout juste Boum. En ce qui me concerne, ce jour là, j'ai d'abord cru à de la viande de porc, c'est juste après le repas qu'on m'a annoncé "la nouvelle"....🏴☠️
tout juste Boum. En ce qui me concerne, ce jour là, j'ai d'abord cru à de la viande de porc, c'est juste après le repas qu'on m'a annoncé "la nouvelle"....🏴☠️
Quand l'eau baisse les fourmis mangent les poissons; quand l'eau monte les poissons mangent les fourmis.
Il n'y a que le changement qui ne change pas.
Et c'est gras, le chien? 😛
goûtu, , , , en fait, on voit pas trop la différence lorsque la viande est hachée, mélangée avec des oignons et du coriandre....
Lap maa, à essayer donc. (rien que de penser à 1 lap de n'importe quoi ca me donne faim😐) Tu as des adresses ? Je ne penses pas.... Ca doit être homemade, non? Mais bon si malgré tout tu en as, je suis preneur...
goûtu, , , , en fait, on voit pas trop la différence lorsque la viande est hachée, mélangée avec des oignons et du coriandre....Lap maa, à essayer donc. (rien que de penser à 1 lap de n'importe quoi ca me donne faim😐) Tu as des adresses ? Je ne penses pas.... Ca doit être homemade, non? Mais bon si malgré tout tu en as, je suis preneur...
profitons de cette vie si courte!!! Ao sanuk mak mak touk touk wan. (I wanna enjoy life everyday)
Tu as des adresses ? Je ne penses pas.... Ca doit être homemade, non?
Mais bon si malgré tout tu en as, je suis preneur...
En fait, c'était un restau un peu roots, genre celui où tu t'asseois sur une paillasse dehors sous l'arbre au bord du Mekong, servi avec du riz gluant. C'est près de la ville de Nakhon Phanom, il paraît que c'est un plat de la région... Bon app. d'avance...🙂
En fait, c'était un restau un peu roots, genre celui où tu t'asseois sur une paillasse dehors sous l'arbre au bord du Mekong, servi avec du riz gluant. C'est près de la ville de Nakhon Phanom, il paraît que c'est un plat de la région... Bon app. d'avance...🙂
Quand l'eau baisse les fourmis mangent les poissons; quand l'eau monte les poissons mangent les fourmis.
Il n'y a que le changement qui ne change pas.
En fait, c'était un restau un peu roots, genre celui où tu t'asseois sur une paillasse dehors sous l'arbre au bord du Mekong, servi avec du riz gluant.
C'est près de la ville de Nakhon Phanom, il paraît que c'est un plat de la région...
Bon app. d'avance...🙂
merci pour l'info😉
merci pour l'info😉
profitons de cette vie si courte!!! Ao sanuk mak mak touk touk wan. (I wanna enjoy life everyday)
merci pour l'info😉
il n'y a pas de quoi, je suis toujours là pour donner les bonnes adresses, après le Michelin, toi et moi on va créer le Michien...😉
il n'y a pas de quoi, je suis toujours là pour donner les bonnes adresses, après le Michelin, toi et moi on va créer le Michien...😉
Quand l'eau baisse les fourmis mangent les poissons; quand l'eau monte les poissons mangent les fourmis.
Il n'y a que le changement qui ne change pas.
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Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.







