Retour de Tunisie (22 octobre 2007)
by Maia84
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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nous revenons mon mari et moi de 2 semaines dans le sud tunisien (nous sommes arrivés hier le 22.10). voyage en 4x4 tente de toit donc bivouac et camping quand on le pouvait...1eres impressions: la gentillesse, l'hospitalité et la discrétion des tunisiens... nous sommes descendus par LE KEF 1ere etape puis DOUZ, TOZEUR par la route du sud du chott el jerid qui longe l'Algerie, les oasis de montagne CHEBIKA, TAMERZA et MIDES, le train "le lézard rouge" au départ de METLAOUI, la traversée du chott el jerid et retour a DOUZ. Nous avons coupé par la piste pour rejoindre la route qui amène à KSAR GUILANE puis une autre piste pour dormir au KSAR BEN HALLOUF. Retour via MEDENINE, GABES, bivouac à la plage de ES CHAFFAR 30 kms au sud de SFAX, et retour sur TUNIS.J'ai envie de mettre en ligne notre voyage mais je suis pas sûre que ca intéresse ou que ce soit déjà fait....merci à vous pour votre avis et merci à la population tunisienne qui nous a permis un beau voyage.
Bonjour,
Je suis intéressé par les parties que vous avez effectuées en hors pistes entre Douz et Ksar Ghilane. Alors, si vous avez des points des WP ou des traces, merci d'avance.😎
Slts
Mehdi SELLAMI
bon retour!
Je viens de lire votre message c vraiment ravissant de savoir l'avis d'un oturiste à propos de ma ville natale (Douz).sur vous vous y etes amusés...alors on dit à la prochaine visite!!!
Le Voyage ! Un baume pour le coeur, l'âme et l'esprit !
Bonjour Maia ! Je rentre également de Tunisie où pour ma part j'ai réalisé avec mon ami un circuit groupe sur tout le tour de Tunisie (sauf le nord ouest). Nous étions un petit groupe de 16 participants donc l'ambiance a été super sympa même si le temps n'a pas toujours été de la partie pour nous !!! Nous avons fait également une partie de votre circuit (oasis, lézard rouge, Douz et Sfax) et nous avons croisé pas mal de 4x4 sur la route... Peut-être étiez-vous dans l'un de ceux-là (!). J'avoue que le Sud est vaiment la partie qui m'a le plus surprise à la fois par son aridité mais aussi par les oasis de verdure (et les dattes ! Délicieuses cueillies sur les palmiers !!!!) Alors oui, moi je suis preneuse pour votre récit qui pourquoi pas me motiverais encore plus à tenter un "périple" en 4x4 ! car j'avoue, mon ami et moi avons bien envie de changer de type de séjours !!
Bonne soirée à vous ! 😉
s'il fallait choisir entre DOUZ et TOZEUR sans hesitation c'est DOUZ. On s'y sent bien la population est chaleureuse le contact se fait naturellement oui j'adore DOUZ. Mon mari est allé chez un barbier un vrai bonheur pour lui je ne l'ai jamais vu aussi bien rasé et aussi bien coiffé...de toute facon on y retourne l'année prochaine, nous sommes tombés amoureux de la tunisie.
jo
Bonjour Maia,
je viens de prendre connaissance de votre message. J'ai aussi fait un circuit en 4x4 au printemps dernier et bien que 6 mois se soient écoulés le retour en France est toujours difficile.(prochain séjours début mai 2008) Je suppose que vous avez fait le marché aux animaux à Douz....C'est super comme ambiance. Alors oui, racontez nous votre séjour en Tunisie, je pense que tous les amoureux de ce pays seront ravis que vous partagiez avec eux ce merveilleux séjours.
A bientôt
Hélène
je viens de prendre connaissance de votre message. J'ai aussi fait un circuit en 4x4 au printemps dernier et bien que 6 mois se soient écoulés le retour en France est toujours difficile.(prochain séjours début mai 2008) Je suppose que vous avez fait le marché aux animaux à Douz....C'est super comme ambiance. Alors oui, racontez nous votre séjour en Tunisie, je pense que tous les amoureux de ce pays seront ravis que vous partagiez avec eux ce merveilleux séjours.
A bientôt
Hélène
Hélène
Malheureusement je ne connais pas BIR GHEZENE. Il est loin de DOUZ?
D'habitude, je prends une piste à droite au ni veau de BIR ZAFASZA. Cette piste est en ligne droite, et se perd dans le CHOTT REGOUG. On continue à maintenir le cap 50° et on arrive sur des dunettes cassantes et très techniques. Soit on continue tout droit, tjs cap 50 et on arrive à couper la route qui va à Ksar Ghilane soit on vire à gauche pour contourner ces dunettes et on retrouve la route menant à Ksar Ghilane, au nord de Bir Soltane.
Attention, la première option est très technique en franchissement. A faire obligatoirement à deux véhicules au minimum et avec des moyens de tractage, sangles et similaires.
La prochaine fois, je vais essayer votre itiniraire que je ne connais pas.
Slts
Mehdi SELLAMI
bonjour moi je prevoit aller en tunisie pour 10 jours environ je vais aller rejoindre quelqu un la bas je vais aller du 27 fevrier au 7 mars 2008 j aimerai s avoir si je devrais tout de suite acheter mon billet d avion ou si je devrais attendre encore un peu.J aimerai s avoir aussi si ca coute cher la bas car je ne sais pas combien je dois apporter d argent pour les depense je vais aller habiter chez quelqu un la bas alors je dois penser a la nourriture et tout ca je conte aller a sousse et madhia j aimerai s avoir quesqu il y a a visiter dans ce coin la ou quesqu il y a pas trop malheusement j ai juste 10 jours et ca passe trop vite merci a l avance 😉
lyne
😉 Bonjour,
Votre témoingnage nous interesse car nous comptons partir en Tunisie en camping-car et nous aimerions savoir si cela vous semble possible et si vous avez rencontré des camping caristes lors de votre périple? Il y a peu de témoignages sur la Tunisie alors qu"'il en regorge sur le Maroc.
Bien à vous ( ma peite cousine franco-mexicaine s'appelle Maïa)
Bj
On a fait le circuit Nord de la tunisie juillet07 (02adultes+02enfants) El kef-Bizerte-Tunis-Sidi Bousaid-Hammamet-Port el Kantaoui-Sousse en location d'appart. et Riad (on peu vous donner beaucoup de détails, de conseils et d'astuces)
On prévois le Sud tunisien au mois de mars-avril 2008 "Nefta-Tozeur-Sfax-Sousse" on a pu avoir des propositions de location sur Nefta. Votre récis nous intéresse beaucoup surtout les détails des Tarifs "lézard rouge, hotels, ect...." nous serons en voiture simple donc j'éviterais les routes sableneuses et peu praticables, je ne pousserais pas jusqu'au grand sud, sinon je laisserai ma voiture garée quelque part et prendre un circuit en 4x4 avec bivouac pour 2 ou 3jours chez des agences confirmés (est-ce que vous avez des adresses a proposées et les tarifs des circuits)
A+++ et Merci
On prévois le Sud tunisien au mois de mars-avril 2008 "Nefta-Tozeur-Sfax-Sousse" on a pu avoir des propositions de location sur Nefta. Votre récis nous intéresse beaucoup surtout les détails des Tarifs "lézard rouge, hotels, ect...." nous serons en voiture simple donc j'éviterais les routes sableneuses et peu praticables, je ne pousserais pas jusqu'au grand sud, sinon je laisserai ma voiture garée quelque part et prendre un circuit en 4x4 avec bivouac pour 2 ou 3jours chez des agences confirmés (est-ce que vous avez des adresses a proposées et les tarifs des circuits)
A+++ et Merci
Bonjour Maia !
Votre périple m'intéresse aussi, hotels sympas, GH accueillantes, bons plans, vos sites préférés, etc.
Avez-vous loué le 4x4 sur place, ou étiez-vous descendus avec le vôtre ? Quelles capacités de franchissement ? (les 4x4 de maintenant c'est pour de la bonne piste en forêt !).
Est-ce qu'il vous a fallu faire appel à un guide pour certaines pistes ?
Et d'avance un grand merci.
Philippe
😉bonjour les bourguignons, , c, est une super idee de visiter la TUNISIE en cc, il ya de plus en plus de monde dans votre cas, , beaucoup d, italiens des allemands des gens meme des ex pays de l, est, , on en voit plein sur les routes, et sur le bateau pour la traversee, , il ya 10 ou 15 ans il yen avait 2 ou 3 sur le bateau maintenant c, est des dizaines, , , personnellement nous allons avec un 4x4, mais nous y sommes alles avec une simple voiture, , , les tunisiens sont tres accueillants, , il ya quelques campings, mais les ccs, arretent ou ils trouvent un joli coin en bord de mer ou vous demandez a quelqun de rester vers leur maison ils sont tres hospitaliers, , , j, en vois souvent rester le long de la mer a SOUSSE meme plusieurs jours, , personne ne dit rien, , , alors bonne route 😄😄😄de plus le carburant est bon marche, c, est assi un atout pour voyager 😛
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Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help





