Safari majoritairement tourné vers les lions: quel pays?
by Mirage
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Ma mère (73 ans), je l'accompagne, désire aller en Afrique australe essentiellement pour voir des lions, son animal de prédilection. Elle n'a pas voyagé depuis très longtemps et je tiens vraiment a ce que son voyage soit mémorable. Donc la question, quel pays choisir? Je suis déjà allée en Tanzanie et j'en ai vu pas mal, y a-t-il mieux? Ou l'équivalent?
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Bonjour Néfertari,
C'est dans la réserve de Masai Mara au Kenya que nous avons vu le plus de lions de tous âges Le parc national de Katavi a aussi été très riche en léonines rencontres, mais c'était souvent les mêmes, alors que Masai Mara nous a montré beaucoup de prides différentes et des solitaires ou fratries.
Safari njema! Bon voyage !
BL
C'est dans la réserve de Masai Mara au Kenya que nous avons vu le plus de lions de tous âges Le parc national de Katavi a aussi été très riche en léonines rencontres, mais c'était souvent les mêmes, alors que Masai Mara nous a montré beaucoup de prides différentes et des solitaires ou fratries.
Safari njema! Bon voyage !
BL
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WILIPI photographie animalière
C'est dans la réserve de Masai Mara au Kenya que nous avons vu le plus de lions de tous âges Le parc national de Katavi a aussi été très riche en léonines rencontres
BL
Salut Bernard,
Vu aussi des lions à Masai Mara en Septembre dernier, également à Katavi en août, et dans un tas d' autres endroits..mais:
- Les conditions d' accès et de circulation dans ces deux parcs ne sont pas top. - On est quand même pas assuré de voir des "canis leo".
Si il s' agit exclusivement (ou essentiellement de lions), et pour une personne d'un certain âge (juste un peu plus que le mien) et n' ayant pas beaucoup beaucoup voyagé, j' aurais tendance à faire deux suggestions:
- Kruger Park en AFS. Tu sais que ce n' est pas mon préféré, tant s' en faut, mais on y roule et dort confortablement, et on est sûr de voir des félins en faisant attention aux endroits du parc visité.
- Ngorongoro en Tanzanie: les bestioles (toutes) sont prisonnières du cratère et l' herbe n' est pas haute, tout est très facile à voir. Ce n' est pas non plus mon préféré, j' y ai vu des embouteillages de voitures de safari, mais c' est assez facile d' accès, on trouve facilement à dormir à Karatu, etc..
Si tu me demande mes lieux préférés pour les lions, je te répondrai Mc Bride's dans Kafue NP en Zambie, en notant que le plaisir de fréquenter Chris (s' il n'est pas complètement gâteux, je n' y suis pas allé depuis 2013) compte pour au moins la moitié du plaisir. Autrement Queen Elizabeth NP en Ouganda (partie Sud) pour les lions arboricoles..mais pour ces deux endroits, on tombe dans le domaine des maniaques de la faune Africaine.
A+
Salut Bernard,
Vu aussi des lions à Masai Mara en Septembre dernier, également à Katavi en août, et dans un tas d' autres endroits..mais:
- Les conditions d' accès et de circulation dans ces deux parcs ne sont pas top. - On est quand même pas assuré de voir des "canis leo".
Si il s' agit exclusivement (ou essentiellement de lions), et pour une personne d'un certain âge (juste un peu plus que le mien) et n' ayant pas beaucoup beaucoup voyagé, j' aurais tendance à faire deux suggestions:
- Kruger Park en AFS. Tu sais que ce n' est pas mon préféré, tant s' en faut, mais on y roule et dort confortablement, et on est sûr de voir des félins en faisant attention aux endroits du parc visité.
- Ngorongoro en Tanzanie: les bestioles (toutes) sont prisonnières du cratère et l' herbe n' est pas haute, tout est très facile à voir. Ce n' est pas non plus mon préféré, j' y ai vu des embouteillages de voitures de safari, mais c' est assez facile d' accès, on trouve facilement à dormir à Karatu, etc..
Si tu me demande mes lieux préférés pour les lions, je te répondrai Mc Bride's dans Kafue NP en Zambie, en notant que le plaisir de fréquenter Chris (s' il n'est pas complètement gâteux, je n' y suis pas allé depuis 2013) compte pour au moins la moitié du plaisir. Autrement Queen Elizabeth NP en Ouganda (partie Sud) pour les lions arboricoles..mais pour ces deux endroits, on tombe dans le domaine des maniaques de la faune Africaine.
A+
Le bonheur commence où le bitume s 'arrête et ....quand on est plus de quatre on est une bande de c... (Georges Brassens)
Merci bolobolobolo,
"Si il s' agit exclusivement (ou essentiellement de lions), et pour une personne d'un certain âge (juste un peu plus que le mien) et n' ayant pas beaucoup beaucoup voyagé"; on ne cherche pas exclusivement des lions mais au moins en voir à 2 endroits (style ngorongoro et serengeti. Par contre en effet j'aimerai éviter les pistes trop mauvaise.
" Ngorongoro en Tanzanie: les bestioles (toutes) sont prisonnières du cratère" : C'est un très beau site mais les animaux n'y sont pas prisonnier, il n'y a aucune cloture en haut du cratère, ils peuvent passer tout simplement passé par le même coté que la route. j'y ai vu mon premier lion sauvage mais j'en ai vu beaucoup dans le serengeti.
"Kruger Park en AFS" : Que veux dire AFS?
"Si tu me demande mes lieux préférés pour les lions, je te répondrai Mc Bride's dans Kafue NP en Zambie" : Je vais me renseigner sur ce parc.
" Ngorongoro en Tanzanie: les bestioles (toutes) sont prisonnières du cratère" : C'est un très beau site mais les animaux n'y sont pas prisonnier, il n'y a aucune cloture en haut du cratère, ils peuvent passer tout simplement passé par le même coté que la route. j'y ai vu mon premier lion sauvage mais j'en ai vu beaucoup dans le serengeti.
"Kruger Park en AFS" : Que veux dire AFS?
"Si tu me demande mes lieux préférés pour les lions, je te répondrai Mc Bride's dans Kafue NP en Zambie" : Je vais me renseigner sur ce parc.
😉 Viens voyager sur mon site http://la.descente.du.nil.over-blog.fr/ ou http://photosdevoyageautourdumonde.fr
Bonjour
Effectivement l'AFS est un bon compromis pour une personne de 73 ans ! On peut dormir avec un certain confort pour un prix relativement raisonnable et donc augmenter ses chances pour voir les lions en restant plusieurs nuits dans le park kruger et avec la possibilité de faire des safaris en soirée avec guides du park qui connaissent très bien les lieux ! Je choisirai le camp de Satara, lower sabie/crocodile bridge pour s'assurer de voir ces félins en restant 2 nuits dans chaque camp ! À chaque fois que j'y suis allé, j'ai toujours vu des lions !
Cdt
Roberto
Effectivement l'AFS est un bon compromis pour une personne de 73 ans ! On peut dormir avec un certain confort pour un prix relativement raisonnable et donc augmenter ses chances pour voir les lions en restant plusieurs nuits dans le park kruger et avec la possibilité de faire des safaris en soirée avec guides du park qui connaissent très bien les lieux ! Je choisirai le camp de Satara, lower sabie/crocodile bridge pour s'assurer de voir ces félins en restant 2 nuits dans chaque camp ! À chaque fois que j'y suis allé, j'ai toujours vu des lions !
Cdt
Roberto
Merci Roberto,
Je ne sais toujours pas ce que veux dire AFS.😊
ESt-ce quelqu'un pourrait me dire ce qu'il en est pour le Botwanna, concernant les lions?
Je ne sais toujours pas ce que veux dire AFS.😊
ESt-ce quelqu'un pourrait me dire ce qu'il en est pour le Botwanna, concernant les lions?
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AFS : Afrique du Sud !!!!
Perso. je choisis Masai Mara pour les très beaux lions qu'il y a et autres bestiaux en plus de paysages superbes et on peut y aller en avion, plus cher mais plus confortable !!!.
Concernant le park Kruger, faut-il choisir plusieurs réserves selon ce que l'on veut voir et y passer 2 jours environ? A l'intérieur de ces réserves, peut-on faire des safari à la journée, ou il n'y a que des safari en 1/2 journée, qui est pour moi une perte de temps de devoir rentrer tous les midi, manger au camp?
Concernant le Botswanna, où se concentre les lions, Chobe? Delta? Autre?
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Le park kruger est une zone protégée nationale immense dans laquelle il y a plusieurs camps principaux, ils proposent des logements confortables avec des restaurants sauf exception ( crocodile bridge par exemple ), les safaris se font par vos propres moyens ( on loue soi même sa voiture dans laquelle on réalise soi même ses safaris ), on peut donc rester là , la journée entière à faire son safari ( de 06 h00 à 18 h00 ), on a également l'option de faire appel aux rangers du Park qui organisent un safari soi le matin ou le soir pour une durée de 3 heures environ, il y a même désormais une option d'une journée entière auprès de leur service.
Pour le Botswana, je vous conseillerais la région de savuti qui se situe dans le parc national de Chobe
Cdt
Roberto
Pour le Botswana, je vous conseillerais la région de savuti qui se situe dans le parc national de Chobe
Cdt
Roberto
Quel que soit le pays, le parc national, le safari, il ne faut pas penser ni espérer que les lions n'attendent que votre visite, qu'ils sont là de telle heure à telle heure pour que vous puissiez les voir et les prendre en photo. Ce sont des parcs nationaux - d'une surface immense - que vous allez visiter, le plus souvent en 4X4, et non pas des zoos avec grillages. Des fois, même avec des guides, on peut ne pas trouver de lions, ou d'autres animaux, du tout.
le voyage est un bonheur, pas une destination, Ando
Ok merci Roberto. C'est l'option voiture avec conducteur qui nous scier le mieux afin de profitez un maximum de la vue.
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Ando, j'ai déjà fait un safari en Tanzani, donc je connais le principe. J'y était au début de la transhumance des gnous et des zèbres. On a vu des milliers d'animaux en 6 jours, des lions, des léopards, des guépards ( dont une chasse) et pleins d'autres, sauf les rhinos. J'ai vu tellement d'animaux que mon problème c'est la peur d'être déçu et que ma mère le soit aussi.
Je pourrais retourner en Tanzanie à la même période mais en général je ne vais pas 2 fois au même endroit à quelques exceptions prets.
Je pourrais retourner en Tanzanie à la même période mais en général je ne vais pas 2 fois au même endroit à quelques exceptions prets.
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Puisque l'Afrique du Sud est venue sur le tapis, ce n'est pas le Kruger qu'il faut privilégier pour les lions mais le Kgalagadi transfontier park.
Logement confortable , pistes entretenues.
Pas de restaurants (il faut faire ses courses à Upington ) et il faut réserver très longtemps à l'avance.
Pour le Kruger, c'est la zone de Satara la plus connue pour ses lions. Même si on les rate, on ne manque pas d être réveillé en pleine nuit par leurs rugissements...
Le Kruger est un parc grand public mais il reste possible d y vivre de très belles expériences point de vue rencontres animalières comme isolement. Bien plus que dans un parc comme Etosha par exemple pour ce qui est de ce dernier point.
Par ailleurs, il aurait été préférable de donner l état de santé de votre mère que son âge.
73 ans peut signifier une vitalité de quelqu'un de 50 comme celle d'un nonagénaire...
De très nombreux retraités septuagénaires voire octogénaires sillonnent l'Afrique australe même en camping et self drive. Donc ... ?
Logement confortable , pistes entretenues.
Pas de restaurants (il faut faire ses courses à Upington ) et il faut réserver très longtemps à l'avance.
Pour le Kruger, c'est la zone de Satara la plus connue pour ses lions. Même si on les rate, on ne manque pas d être réveillé en pleine nuit par leurs rugissements...
Le Kruger est un parc grand public mais il reste possible d y vivre de très belles expériences point de vue rencontres animalières comme isolement. Bien plus que dans un parc comme Etosha par exemple pour ce qui est de ce dernier point.
Par ailleurs, il aurait été préférable de donner l état de santé de votre mère que son âge.
73 ans peut signifier une vitalité de quelqu'un de 50 comme celle d'un nonagénaire...
De très nombreux retraités septuagénaires voire octogénaires sillonnent l'Afrique australe même en camping et self drive. Donc ... ?
Mc bride avait encore toute sa tête en 2015 même si c'est une tête de cochon...😄
Pas eu de chance en revanche pour moi à cette adresse pour les lions.😐
Pas eu de chance en revanche pour moi à cette adresse pour les lions.😐
Par ailleurs, il aurait été préférable de donner l état de santé de votre mère que son âge.
73 ans peut signifier une vitalité de quelqu'un de 50 comme celle d'un nonagénaire...
De très nombreux retraités septuagénaires voire octogénaires sillonnent l'Afrique australe même en camping et self drive. Donc ... ?
Bonjour,
En effet, donc c'est une personne qui ne fait pas de sport mais qui marche facilement si c'est plat. Elle est en bon santé dans l'ensemble. Mais plus que sa santé, c'est ces demandes qui me posent problème. Pas de camping, même le logement en tente prè-montée. Les grand transfert doivent se faire en avion. Pas de location de voiture, tout avec chauffeur mais pas de bus / groupe. Et en plus je dois avoir les lions et les chutes Victoria.
Le parc Kruger ne subit-il pas trop de tourisme de masse, comme le Kenya?
73 ans peut signifier une vitalité de quelqu'un de 50 comme celle d'un nonagénaire...
De très nombreux retraités septuagénaires voire octogénaires sillonnent l'Afrique australe même en camping et self drive. Donc ... ?
Bonjour,
En effet, donc c'est une personne qui ne fait pas de sport mais qui marche facilement si c'est plat. Elle est en bon santé dans l'ensemble. Mais plus que sa santé, c'est ces demandes qui me posent problème. Pas de camping, même le logement en tente prè-montée. Les grand transfert doivent se faire en avion. Pas de location de voiture, tout avec chauffeur mais pas de bus / groupe. Et en plus je dois avoir les lions et les chutes Victoria.
Le parc Kruger ne subit-il pas trop de tourisme de masse, comme le Kenya?
😉 Viens voyager sur mon site http://la.descente.du.nil.over-blog.fr/ ou http://photosdevoyageautourdumonde.fr
Mc bride avait encore toute sa tête en 2015 même si c'est une tête de cochon...😄
Pas eu de chance en revanche pour moi à cette adresse pour les lions.😐
Hello
Tant mieux pour Chris !! (pour sa tête..)
En 2013 il nous avait entre autre emmenés voir un couple de lions en train de s' accoupler, ainsi que des lionceaux.
Ce qui est quand même exceptionnel, c' est sa connaissance des bestioles..
A+
Pas eu de chance en revanche pour moi à cette adresse pour les lions.😐
Hello
Tant mieux pour Chris !! (pour sa tête..)
En 2013 il nous avait entre autre emmenés voir un couple de lions en train de s' accoupler, ainsi que des lionceaux.
Ce qui est quand même exceptionnel, c' est sa connaissance des bestioles..
A+
Le bonheur commence où le bitume s 'arrête et ....quand on est plus de quatre on est une bande de c... (Georges Brassens)
Voiture avec chauffeur ???
Kenya Tanzanie Botswana.
L'Afrique du Sud, ce sont des autotours pas du voyage avec chauffeur.
Pas de tentes prémontées ?
Exit certaines formules des pays ci dessus mentionnés mais parfait pour l 'Afrique du Sud hormis certains logements en toile qui sont pourtant comme des logements en dur et pérennes.
Transfert en avion :
Ok pour tous les pays mais ouille pour les prix . Sauf en Afrique du Sud où ce sont des vols réguliers.
Bref, si le coût du voyage est très très open, n importe quelle formule de fly in safari devrait être ok en choisissant des lodges plutôt que des campements.
Si le budget n'est pas extensif, c'est une formule kruger côté parc public puis réserve privée et chutes Victoria qui serait à privilégier avec vols réguliers pour les grandes distances et tout de même quelques kilomètres en voiture de location.
Le Kruger est assez vaste et se visite toute l année. En choisissant bien ses dates (pas les week end, pas les vacances européennes surtout estivales, pas les vacances sud af), et ses logements (bush camps plutôt que camps villages. Ce sont des bungalows tout confort mais il faut se faire à manger), on peut découvrir une bonne partie du parc assez tranquillement. Les points noir du Kruger : Skukuza, Lower sabie en journée, les environs proches des grands camps du sud et du centre le soir, juillet août.
Je ne connais pas le Kenya mais au vu des photos et des retours de certains, tu peux être bien plus tranquille au Kruger en self drive qu'au Kenya en voyage organisé!
Faut juste tenir compte des conseils donnés ci dessus. 😉
( Bon, le lion tout seul, c'est pas gagné. Mais le rhino l éléphant ou la hyène, pas de soucis. )
Kenya Tanzanie Botswana.
L'Afrique du Sud, ce sont des autotours pas du voyage avec chauffeur.
Pas de tentes prémontées ?
Exit certaines formules des pays ci dessus mentionnés mais parfait pour l 'Afrique du Sud hormis certains logements en toile qui sont pourtant comme des logements en dur et pérennes.
Transfert en avion :
Ok pour tous les pays mais ouille pour les prix . Sauf en Afrique du Sud où ce sont des vols réguliers.
Bref, si le coût du voyage est très très open, n importe quelle formule de fly in safari devrait être ok en choisissant des lodges plutôt que des campements.
Si le budget n'est pas extensif, c'est une formule kruger côté parc public puis réserve privée et chutes Victoria qui serait à privilégier avec vols réguliers pour les grandes distances et tout de même quelques kilomètres en voiture de location.
Le Kruger est assez vaste et se visite toute l année. En choisissant bien ses dates (pas les week end, pas les vacances européennes surtout estivales, pas les vacances sud af), et ses logements (bush camps plutôt que camps villages. Ce sont des bungalows tout confort mais il faut se faire à manger), on peut découvrir une bonne partie du parc assez tranquillement. Les points noir du Kruger : Skukuza, Lower sabie en journée, les environs proches des grands camps du sud et du centre le soir, juillet août.
Je ne connais pas le Kenya mais au vu des photos et des retours de certains, tu peux être bien plus tranquille au Kruger en self drive qu'au Kenya en voyage organisé!
Faut juste tenir compte des conseils donnés ci dessus. 😉
( Bon, le lion tout seul, c'est pas gagné. Mais le rhino l éléphant ou la hyène, pas de soucis. )
Même sans les lions, le safari à pied restera dans mes souvenirs et le bonhomme aussi !
Autrement Queen Elizabeth NP en Ouganda (partie Sud) pour les lions arboricoles..mais pour ces deux endroits, on tombe dans le domaine des maniaques de la faune Africaine.
Bah nous, on y est passé, mais on en a vu zéro !
F
Bah nous, on y est passé, mais on en a vu zéro !
F
Tanzanie-2010
Kawaza Village
Botswana : https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2037270
Autrement Queen Elizabeth NP en Ouganda (partie Sud) pour les lions arboricoles..mais pour ces deux endroits, on tombe dans le domaine des maniaques de la faune Africaine.
Bah nous, on y est passé, mais on en a vu zéro !
F
Salut Franck,
Pour les lions arboricoles, beaucoup de patience: deux fois deux lions en deux jours, sinon vu également deux fois des lions dans la partie Nord.
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Bah nous, on y est passé, mais on en a vu zéro !
F
Salut Franck,
Pour les lions arboricoles, beaucoup de patience: deux fois deux lions en deux jours, sinon vu également deux fois des lions dans la partie Nord.
A+
Le bonheur commence où le bitume s 'arrête et ....quand on est plus de quatre on est une bande de c... (Georges Brassens)
Les lions branchés sont couramment vus dans le parc national de Manyara. Nous les avons également vus, mais une seule fois, dans le Tarangire.
safari photo en Tanzanie et ailleurs https://safari-tanzanie.fr
WILIPI photographie animalière
Bonjour,
J'ai vu sur un vieux message (2010) et en cherchant bien je viens de trouver ton carnet de voyage sur ton voyage en Tanzanie. Et comme j'étais en train de me renseigner sur les parc Selous et Ruaha, qu'en penses-tu? As-tu vu beaucoup de lions? Ou en as-tu vu plus dans les parcs du nord? Car comme tu l'as écrit :
Pourquoi la Tanzanie? Parce que nous avions été très frustrés de ne pas voir de félin au Botswana. On voulait « assurer le coup »."
Très beau carnet mais j'ai pas fini de le lire et j'adore les touches d'humour que tu as mis.
J'ai vu sur un vieux message (2010) et en cherchant bien je viens de trouver ton carnet de voyage sur ton voyage en Tanzanie. Et comme j'étais en train de me renseigner sur les parc Selous et Ruaha, qu'en penses-tu? As-tu vu beaucoup de lions? Ou en as-tu vu plus dans les parcs du nord? Car comme tu l'as écrit :
Pourquoi la Tanzanie? Parce que nous avions été très frustrés de ne pas voir de félin au Botswana. On voulait « assurer le coup »."
Très beau carnet mais j'ai pas fini de le lire et j'adore les touches d'humour que tu as mis.
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Hello
Non on n'a pas vu de lion à Ruhaha. Seulement 2 lions et un léopard à Selous. Je crois bien qu'il y a plus de félins au Serengeti. Certainement aussi le Ngorongoro. des Lions aussi à Tarangire. Mais Selous est beaucoup plus joli que le Serengeti, et il y a moins de monde.
Bon voyage ;-) Franck
Non on n'a pas vu de lion à Ruhaha. Seulement 2 lions et un léopard à Selous. Je crois bien qu'il y a plus de félins au Serengeti. Certainement aussi le Ngorongoro. des Lions aussi à Tarangire. Mais Selous est beaucoup plus joli que le Serengeti, et il y a moins de monde.
Bon voyage ;-) Franck
Tanzanie-2010
Kawaza Village
Botswana : https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2037270
Je me permets d'en remettre une couche.
Dans les safaris en Afrique de l'Est que nous avons faits, les plus riches en grands chats ont été, par ordre décroissant :
- la réserve Masai Mara (5 semaines en tout en 3 safaris, en septembre, octobre et juin). Juin a été le moins riche, avec un seul léopard, très peu de guépards. En septembre et octobre, nous avons eu des lions plusieurs fois par jour, des guépards idem (cela a changé dans le mauvais sens ces dernières années où la population de guépards a sévèrement décliné), des léopards au sol et dans les arbres (et même un ou plusieurs tous les jours en 2008). Actions de chasse des lions et guépards, kills, jeux des lionceaux et guépardeaux, reproduction des lions. En prime servals (presque) garantis et caracals possibles. Toute la gamme présente, active, ce n'est pas pour rien que Jonathan Scott y tournait tous les ans son regretté Big Cat Diary.
- le parc de Katavi (12 jours en tout en 2 safaris en octobre et juin). Juin décevant pour les fauves par rapport à un octobre très riche en lions et lionceaux, kills, actions de chasse (dont une mi-jeu, mi-sérieuse sur des... crocodiles). Il n'y a pas de guépard à Katavi. Vu les deux safaris un léopard, mais branché seulement. La population de lions est moindre qu'au Serengeti et à Ruaha mais ils sont très concentrés et donc on les croise plusieurs fois par jour.
- le parc du Serengeti et la Ngorongoro Conservation Area (un peu plus de 2 semaines en 4 safaris, en janvier-février avec 5 jours dans le cratère), lions en sieste, en reproduction, rares kills, guépards (surtout à Ndutu, mais aussi dans le cratère). Servals parfois visibles dans le cratère, où, contrairement à ce qui était écrit dans le Routard, on peut voir des guépards. NB : Serengeti, NCA et Masai-Mara font partie du même vaste écosystème, l'avantage de Mara c'est sa taille "réduite" et la présence de la grande migration en été qui assure (presque) de voir les grands chats autrement qu'en sieste...
- le parc de Ruaha (trois semaines en tout en 5 safaris en janvier, février, juin et octobre) les lions y sont en richesse moindre, nous n'y avons pas vu d'actions de chasse (mais des lionnes broutant de l'herbe), guépards vus quatre safaris sur 5, mais en action de... sieste, léopards seulement perchés (et avec beaucoup trop de monde autour cette année), nous y avons vu une seule fois un caracal. Les paysages de Ruaha sont magnifiques, c'est un Tarangire à la puissance x, avec éléphants et baobabs sur fond de collines.
- la réserve de Selous (trois semaines en tout en quatre safaris, tous en février) : nous n'y avons rencontré que peu fréquemment les lions, qui y sont quasiment pelés avec une crinière peu fournie pour les mâles (sans doute une adaptation à la chaleur) et dispersés sur un vaste territoire de miombo moins propice à l'observation que les savanes des Mara, Serengeti et autres Katavi... À oublier pour les guépards, leur présence y est anecdotique. Les lycaons sont une des richesses de la réserve (mais cette année, ce n'est pas au Selous que nous les avons vus mais à Ruaha). Je déconseille le Selous pour l'amateur de lions. Le Selous vaut pour son avifaune (en janvier-février) , la Rufiji River et ses nombreux lacs, ses éléphants et les lycaons, pas pour les grands chats.
Éric, que je salue, a écrit :
Vu aussi des lions à Masai Mara en Septembre dernier, également à Katavi en août, et dans un tas d' autres endroits..mais: - Les conditions d' accès et de circulation dans ces deux parcs ne sont pas top. - On est quand même pas assuré de voir des "canis leo".
Les conditions d'accès à la réserve de Masai Mara et au parc de Katavi imposent effectivement pour une personne âgée un accès par avion. Les conditions de circulation (avec un chauffeur, hein, je ne me lance pas dans le self-drive, pas fou !) y sont très correctes en fin de saison sèche, même s'il y a parfois des risques d'enlisement à Mara, mais, à ma connaissance, pratiquement pas à Katavi en octobre si l'on ne fait pas de hors-piste (par ailleurs interdit).
On est assuré à ces deux endroits de voir des Panthera leo, pour Canis leo 😉, je ne sais pas. Pour autant, je ne rembourse rien en cas d'(improbable) fiasco.
Le problème de Katavi pour une personne âgée qui y serait sensible, c'est essentiellement la chaleur.
Amitiés à tous et bises aux autres
BL
PS : nous avons aussi vu des lions (beaucoup) et guépards (peu) au Botswana et des lions au Zimbabwe, mais jamais aussi souvent qu'à Mara et à Katavi.
Dans les safaris en Afrique de l'Est que nous avons faits, les plus riches en grands chats ont été, par ordre décroissant :
- la réserve Masai Mara (5 semaines en tout en 3 safaris, en septembre, octobre et juin). Juin a été le moins riche, avec un seul léopard, très peu de guépards. En septembre et octobre, nous avons eu des lions plusieurs fois par jour, des guépards idem (cela a changé dans le mauvais sens ces dernières années où la population de guépards a sévèrement décliné), des léopards au sol et dans les arbres (et même un ou plusieurs tous les jours en 2008). Actions de chasse des lions et guépards, kills, jeux des lionceaux et guépardeaux, reproduction des lions. En prime servals (presque) garantis et caracals possibles. Toute la gamme présente, active, ce n'est pas pour rien que Jonathan Scott y tournait tous les ans son regretté Big Cat Diary.
- le parc de Katavi (12 jours en tout en 2 safaris en octobre et juin). Juin décevant pour les fauves par rapport à un octobre très riche en lions et lionceaux, kills, actions de chasse (dont une mi-jeu, mi-sérieuse sur des... crocodiles). Il n'y a pas de guépard à Katavi. Vu les deux safaris un léopard, mais branché seulement. La population de lions est moindre qu'au Serengeti et à Ruaha mais ils sont très concentrés et donc on les croise plusieurs fois par jour.
- le parc du Serengeti et la Ngorongoro Conservation Area (un peu plus de 2 semaines en 4 safaris, en janvier-février avec 5 jours dans le cratère), lions en sieste, en reproduction, rares kills, guépards (surtout à Ndutu, mais aussi dans le cratère). Servals parfois visibles dans le cratère, où, contrairement à ce qui était écrit dans le Routard, on peut voir des guépards. NB : Serengeti, NCA et Masai-Mara font partie du même vaste écosystème, l'avantage de Mara c'est sa taille "réduite" et la présence de la grande migration en été qui assure (presque) de voir les grands chats autrement qu'en sieste...
- le parc de Ruaha (trois semaines en tout en 5 safaris en janvier, février, juin et octobre) les lions y sont en richesse moindre, nous n'y avons pas vu d'actions de chasse (mais des lionnes broutant de l'herbe), guépards vus quatre safaris sur 5, mais en action de... sieste, léopards seulement perchés (et avec beaucoup trop de monde autour cette année), nous y avons vu une seule fois un caracal. Les paysages de Ruaha sont magnifiques, c'est un Tarangire à la puissance x, avec éléphants et baobabs sur fond de collines.
- la réserve de Selous (trois semaines en tout en quatre safaris, tous en février) : nous n'y avons rencontré que peu fréquemment les lions, qui y sont quasiment pelés avec une crinière peu fournie pour les mâles (sans doute une adaptation à la chaleur) et dispersés sur un vaste territoire de miombo moins propice à l'observation que les savanes des Mara, Serengeti et autres Katavi... À oublier pour les guépards, leur présence y est anecdotique. Les lycaons sont une des richesses de la réserve (mais cette année, ce n'est pas au Selous que nous les avons vus mais à Ruaha). Je déconseille le Selous pour l'amateur de lions. Le Selous vaut pour son avifaune (en janvier-février) , la Rufiji River et ses nombreux lacs, ses éléphants et les lycaons, pas pour les grands chats.
Éric, que je salue, a écrit :
Vu aussi des lions à Masai Mara en Septembre dernier, également à Katavi en août, et dans un tas d' autres endroits..mais: - Les conditions d' accès et de circulation dans ces deux parcs ne sont pas top. - On est quand même pas assuré de voir des "canis leo".
Les conditions d'accès à la réserve de Masai Mara et au parc de Katavi imposent effectivement pour une personne âgée un accès par avion. Les conditions de circulation (avec un chauffeur, hein, je ne me lance pas dans le self-drive, pas fou !) y sont très correctes en fin de saison sèche, même s'il y a parfois des risques d'enlisement à Mara, mais, à ma connaissance, pratiquement pas à Katavi en octobre si l'on ne fait pas de hors-piste (par ailleurs interdit).
On est assuré à ces deux endroits de voir des Panthera leo, pour Canis leo 😉, je ne sais pas. Pour autant, je ne rembourse rien en cas d'(improbable) fiasco.
Le problème de Katavi pour une personne âgée qui y serait sensible, c'est essentiellement la chaleur.
Amitiés à tous et bises aux autres
BL
PS : nous avons aussi vu des lions (beaucoup) et guépards (peu) au Botswana et des lions au Zimbabwe, mais jamais aussi souvent qu'à Mara et à Katavi.
safari photo en Tanzanie et ailleurs https://safari-tanzanie.fr
WILIPI photographie animalière
Bonjour,
Merci beaucoup pour ce classement.
La Tanzanie est maintenant en haut de ma liste. Je vais regardé si un To me propose les parcs du Nord + Katavi en avion. J'avais trouvé Kuoni, qui proposé Selous et Ruaha mais la recherche ne fait que commencer. J'ai fait les parcs du nord fin nov 2011 ( pas beaucoup de pluie et de forte chaleur) mais je pense qu'il faudrait le faire en octobre. J'avais vu le retour de migration des gnous et zèbres et beaucoup de félins.
Merci encore
Merci beaucoup pour ce classement.
La Tanzanie est maintenant en haut de ma liste. Je vais regardé si un To me propose les parcs du Nord + Katavi en avion. J'avais trouvé Kuoni, qui proposé Selous et Ruaha mais la recherche ne fait que commencer. J'ai fait les parcs du nord fin nov 2011 ( pas beaucoup de pluie et de forte chaleur) mais je pense qu'il faudrait le faire en octobre. J'avais vu le retour de migration des gnous et zèbres et beaucoup de félins.
Merci encore
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Hi there,
Hope the pros are on the lookout!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
Hi there,
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Thanks,
David
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Thanks,
David
Hi there,
I’m considering camping in Nyungwe Park with my family (2 adults, 2 kids) at Uwinka campsite. Problem: the park rents the tent but without any gear (mattresses, blankets). We don’t have a car. Is it possible to rent or buy mattresses and blankets near the park, please?
Thanks for your help
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
Hi,
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
Hi there,
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
Hi everyone!
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
Hi everyone!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
Hi
Any feedback on the agency Mon Guide Zanzibar?
Hi everyone,
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Hello,
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
Hello everyone,
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
Hi everyone,
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
hi there
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
Hey everyone,
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
hi there
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’d like to return to Africa and stay in a lodge where I can see animals—not necessarily the Big Five—without needing any transport once I arrive at the lodge, and at a price under $250 per day for two people with full board. The week-long stay is planned for late June into early July. I’m looking for suggestions. Thanks in advance!
Hi, I’d like to travel to Ethiopia as a solo 60-year-old woman, backpacking style, between December 2025 and January 2026.
I’m wondering about the current state of the country: unrest, safety concerns, etc.
Government websites advise against going, saying it’s too dangerous.
But I’m skeptical—they tend to be overly cautious.
So I’m looking for reliable information, though I’m not sure where to find it.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re a group of four seventy-something retirees and we’re planning a 4-week trip to South Africa. We’re seasoned "adventurers" used to multi-week stays (we’ve been to India seven times, Mexico, Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Australia, etc.).
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers. We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering: Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later) Pretoria – 2 days Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day Acornhoek – 1 day Letaba – 2 days Lobamba – 2 days Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days Cape of Good Hope – 1 day Stellenbosch – 1 day Hermanus – 1 day Mossel Bay – 2 days Oudtshoorn Wilderness – 2 days Knysna Port Elizabeth – 2 days Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions. We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers. We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering: Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later) Pretoria – 2 days Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day Acornhoek – 1 day Letaba – 2 days Lobamba – 2 days Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days Cape of Good Hope – 1 day Stellenbosch – 1 day Hermanus – 1 day Mossel Bay – 2 days Oudtshoorn Wilderness – 2 days Knysna Port Elizabeth – 2 days Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions. We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!
Hi,
I’m heading to Angola for two weeks starting mid-April and I’d like to rent a car to explore the country, but not a 4x4 to keep my budget in check. I plan to mostly stay in the western part and go as far as the Namibian border. Is it possible to drive in Iona Park without a 4x4, or to get to Kalendula or Piedra Negras? Also, is the Lubango–Huambo–Kuito–Malanje route doable in a city car? Lastly, do gas stations accept Visa?
Thanks for your feedback and tips!



