Je me tourne vers vous car les guides papeir ne sont pas trop mon truc. Je ne connais pas du tout le MAron et compte m'y rendre pour 2 semaines en Janvier . Que me conseillez vous de ne pas manquer sachant que j'ai un faible pour les sites naturels? Je suis également preneur de tous bons plans concernant les guest houses, transports, etc etc Pour info, je vais surement atterrir à Marrakech... @ +
Séjour de deux semaines au Maroc en janvier: sites naturels, guest houses, transports...?
by Raju
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour tout le monde,
Je me tourne vers vous car les guides papeir ne sont pas trop mon truc. Je ne connais pas du tout le MAron et compte m'y rendre pour 2 semaines en Janvier . Que me conseillez vous de ne pas manquer sachant que j'ai un faible pour les sites naturels? Je suis également preneur de tous bons plans concernant les guest houses, transports, etc etc Pour info, je vais surement atterrir à Marrakech... @ +
Je me tourne vers vous car les guides papeir ne sont pas trop mon truc. Je ne connais pas du tout le MAron et compte m'y rendre pour 2 semaines en Janvier . Que me conseillez vous de ne pas manquer sachant que j'ai un faible pour les sites naturels? Je suis également preneur de tous bons plans concernant les guest houses, transports, etc etc Pour info, je vais surement atterrir à Marrakech... @ +
je reviens d'un petit périple sur Marrakech Ouarzazate et je mets à la disposition de chacun quelques bonnes ou moins bonnes adresses:
côté restos: "La villa" à Marrakech: beau cadre mais cuisine française très moyenne. Nous étions 4 et nous avons eu 1 entrée trop cuite, 2 viandes trop cuites et 2 mousses au chocolat qui manquaient vraiment de chocolat et de légèreté mousseuse. donc franchement pas terrible bien que ce lieu soit prisé. "Les jardins de Bala" à Marrakech: cuisine indienne de bon niveau. franchement très bon service et très bonne cuisine pour un prix correct. Seul le service du vin n'était pas à la hauteur du lieu (nous étions en terrasse!! lol!). La table d'hôte du "Riad Al Rimal" : le meilleur rapport qualité prix de ce séjour. Cuisine gastronomique de très haut niveau avec un excellent service dans un cadre à la déco soignée. Un parfait mélange de saveurs! "Chez Dimitri" à Ouarzazate: toujours très bien. J'y ai été déjà à plusieurs reprises et je dois dire que c'est toujours impeccable.
Côté transports: j'ai fait appel à Medloc pour 37€ un dacia toute équipée. impeccable. ils ont livrés la voiture à proximité du riad à l'heure convenue. parfait!
Côté logement: Riad Al Rimal à Marrakech: très bien situé et offrant un excellent rapport qualité/prix. Petit déj copieux et que des produits frais faits maison (pain, crêpes, assiette de fruits, yaourt, jus d'orange). j'ai surtout profité du hammam qui est gratuit, super!!. la bonne idée du Riad a été de couvrir les 2 patios d'une bâche transparente, cela permet de garder dans les patios une température douce même la nuit alors que les rues sont fraîches voire froides! La suite que j'avais était magnifique et vraiment spacieuse. Le service est top: petit verre servit à 1 heure du matin sans problème et même petit déj complet et frais à 4h30 du matin le jour de mon départ matinal pour Ouarzazate! que demandez de plus!! Literie excellente (matelas ferme et draps de belle facture).
Résidence Afoulqui à Ouarzazate: pour 30€ on exigera pas plus! appartement spacieux mais avec un seul chauffage pour tout l'appartement. c'était un peu juste! serviette de toilette percée! pas de tapis au sol que du carrelage; c'est un peu froid en hiver! literie de bonne qualité, bien ferme. ustensiles de cuisine et vaisselle de récupération ou acheté dans une "brocante". simple vitrage aux fenêtre et j'ai donc été réveillé un peu top par le bruit des camions au carrefour.
Suite au prochain séjour!
côté restos: "La villa" à Marrakech: beau cadre mais cuisine française très moyenne. Nous étions 4 et nous avons eu 1 entrée trop cuite, 2 viandes trop cuites et 2 mousses au chocolat qui manquaient vraiment de chocolat et de légèreté mousseuse. donc franchement pas terrible bien que ce lieu soit prisé. "Les jardins de Bala" à Marrakech: cuisine indienne de bon niveau. franchement très bon service et très bonne cuisine pour un prix correct. Seul le service du vin n'était pas à la hauteur du lieu (nous étions en terrasse!! lol!). La table d'hôte du "Riad Al Rimal" : le meilleur rapport qualité prix de ce séjour. Cuisine gastronomique de très haut niveau avec un excellent service dans un cadre à la déco soignée. Un parfait mélange de saveurs! "Chez Dimitri" à Ouarzazate: toujours très bien. J'y ai été déjà à plusieurs reprises et je dois dire que c'est toujours impeccable.
Côté transports: j'ai fait appel à Medloc pour 37€ un dacia toute équipée. impeccable. ils ont livrés la voiture à proximité du riad à l'heure convenue. parfait!
Côté logement: Riad Al Rimal à Marrakech: très bien situé et offrant un excellent rapport qualité/prix. Petit déj copieux et que des produits frais faits maison (pain, crêpes, assiette de fruits, yaourt, jus d'orange). j'ai surtout profité du hammam qui est gratuit, super!!. la bonne idée du Riad a été de couvrir les 2 patios d'une bâche transparente, cela permet de garder dans les patios une température douce même la nuit alors que les rues sont fraîches voire froides! La suite que j'avais était magnifique et vraiment spacieuse. Le service est top: petit verre servit à 1 heure du matin sans problème et même petit déj complet et frais à 4h30 du matin le jour de mon départ matinal pour Ouarzazate! que demandez de plus!! Literie excellente (matelas ferme et draps de belle facture).
Résidence Afoulqui à Ouarzazate: pour 30€ on exigera pas plus! appartement spacieux mais avec un seul chauffage pour tout l'appartement. c'était un peu juste! serviette de toilette percée! pas de tapis au sol que du carrelage; c'est un peu froid en hiver! literie de bonne qualité, bien ferme. ustensiles de cuisine et vaisselle de récupération ou acheté dans une "brocante". simple vitrage aux fenêtre et j'ai donc été réveillé un peu top par le bruit des camions au carrefour.
Suite au prochain séjour!
arthurdur
bonjour
Voulez vous voir?:oasisvalléeKsourkasbahs gorgespalmeraies??? Passez de bons moment avec les gens de la régions?
Cordialemnt
Voulez vous voir?:oasisvalléeKsourkasbahs gorgespalmeraies??? Passez de bons moment avec les gens de la régions?
Cordialemnt
TU CONNAIS PAS LE MAROC
et tu aterie a ARNAKECH
ON T Y VERAS COMME UN BEAU PIGEON A PLUMER
un conseil c est la seule ville ou tu doit faire gaffe
et la seulle ou il faut pas tarder tu te fais avoir a chaque coup (le bisutage a la marakchi) specialite maison
voila deja le meilleur plan
que qelqu un prouve le contraire
LARBI
Je reviens de Marrakech & je vous conseil d'aller decouvrir Tassaouirgane:
C'est l'endroit où il faut aller, pour avoir un aperçu de l'Atlas, dans le parc préservé deu Toubkal, tout en restant à proximité de Marrakech;
L'accueil y est chaleureux, la Journée berbère proposée est très agréable, le repas et le sourire du personnel de Dar Tassa inoubliable.
L'environnement extraordinaire, le calme et la vie locale dans le village en contrebas, où l'on visite le moulin a huile, le four à pain traditionnel et la production artisanale de miel...délicieux!
Tout ici apaise et donne envie d'en parler autour de nous, et d'y revenir bien sur!
Dany, et Cathy de Cannes France
Dany, et Cathy de Cannes France
Bonjour,
Au Maroc il y a en effet de beaux sites naturels. Pour ma part je vous conseillerais le grand sud c'est-à-dire de l'autre côté de l'Atlas. De la région de Ouarzazate vous avez 2 superbes vallées : la vallée du Drâa et la vallée du Dadès. Vous pouvez faire une boucle en passant de la vallée du Drââ ver la vallée du Dadès et retour sur Ouarzazate. Si vous arrivez sur Marrakech vous vous dirigez sur Ouarzazate en traversant l'Atlas (très belle route) à traverser de jour en cette saison. A ouarzazate vous prenez la route direction Agdz-Zagora. Vous passez à Agdz et poursuivez une vingtaine de KM puis vous prenez à gauche dans la vallée du Drâa la direction N'Koob/Merzouga puis Elrachidia, tinhérir, Kalah M'gouna, Skoura et Ouarzazate.
Cet itinéraire vous permettra de visiter Agdz petite ville du sud sympathique, la plus belle Oasis de palmier de la vallée du Draa avec ces grandes Kasbahs (anciennes citées) et les douars (petits villages berbères). Merzouga c'est la partie du désert avec de grandes dunes. Dans la vallée du Dadès il y a les gorges de Todra (magnifiques), la ville de Tinhérir très vivante et accueillante, Skoura et sa palmeraie, La ville de Ouarzazate et sa grande Kasbah.
Bien sûr vous n'aimez pas trop les guides mais feuilletez ceux-ci un peu car certains vous donnent des informations difficiles à développer sur un message.
Si vous souhaitez lus de conseils n'éhésitez pas à me recontacter.
Bonne route !
Evelyne
Merci a tous pour ces précieuses infos.
pour Eve55 : Concernant la boucle autour de ouarzazate, est il possible de prendre des bus pour se déplacer ou une voiture de loc est indispensable ? La visite de ces vallées peut elle se faire en solo ou un guide (à la journée par ex) est le bienvenu ?
Mci enore 😉
Bonjour
La boucle : Ouarzazate, Agdz, N'kob, Tazzarine, Rissani, Merzouga, Goulmima, Tinghir, Boumalne, El kelaa M'gouna, Skoura, Ouarzazate, peut se faire en transports collectifs, Bus ou Taxi, sans aucun problème, et ne necessite aucun guide (ni la présence d'une nouvelle rabatteuse sur ce forum ? 😉😉).
Il est naturellement plus agréable et libre de le faire avec une voiture de loc, ordinaire, 4x4 absolument inutile, les routes sont faciles, sures, bien indiquées.
par contre, dans certains spots, comme Merzouga par exemple, on peut demander à son auberge une excursion accompagnée, soit à pied, en chameau, ou 4x4, cela fait partie de leurs prestations classiques, ou dans une auberge d 'el Kelaa, une belle ballade dans la "vallée des roses".
La boucle : Ouarzazate, Agdz, N'kob, Tazzarine, Rissani, Merzouga, Goulmima, Tinghir, Boumalne, El kelaa M'gouna, Skoura, Ouarzazate, peut se faire en transports collectifs, Bus ou Taxi, sans aucun problème, et ne necessite aucun guide (ni la présence d'une nouvelle rabatteuse sur ce forum ? 😉😉).
Il est naturellement plus agréable et libre de le faire avec une voiture de loc, ordinaire, 4x4 absolument inutile, les routes sont faciles, sures, bien indiquées.
par contre, dans certains spots, comme Merzouga par exemple, on peut demander à son auberge une excursion accompagnée, soit à pied, en chameau, ou 4x4, cela fait partie de leurs prestations classiques, ou dans une auberge d 'el Kelaa, une belle ballade dans la "vallée des roses".
Bonjour tout le monde,
Je me tourne vers vous car les guides papeir ne sont pas trop mon truc. Je ne connais pas du tout le MAron et compte m'y rendre pour 2 semaines en Janvier . Que me conseillez vous de ne pas manquer sachant que j'ai un faible pour les sites naturels? Je suis également preneur de tous bons plans concernant les guest houses, transports, etc etc Pour info, je vais surement atterrir à Marrakech... @ +
Bonjour Raju, J'aurais préféré t'envoyer un MP pour te conseiller un lieu et une adresse (dont je reviens totalement conquise) mais je n'ai pas suffisamment posté pour pouvoir le faire... Je viens d'apprendre qu'il faut avoir écrit 20 posts pour pouvoir le faire... Donc voilà, si tu es amoureux de sites naturels, la région du lac de Bin el Ouidane (à 2h30 de voiture de Marrakech) me paraît pouvoir faire ton bonheur... Il y a plein de balades magnifiques à faire à proximité ! Pour ce qui est de l'hébergement, il n'y a pas grand chose autour du lac, le site est (pour l'instant) intact, ce qui préserve toute sa majestuosité. Je résidais dans une guest house, Altaïr, que je te recommande vivement si tu vas dans la région. Si tu peux m'envoyer un MP, dans le cas où tu voudrais en savoir plus, n'hésite-pas. Bonne journée ! Agatha
Je me tourne vers vous car les guides papeir ne sont pas trop mon truc. Je ne connais pas du tout le MAron et compte m'y rendre pour 2 semaines en Janvier . Que me conseillez vous de ne pas manquer sachant que j'ai un faible pour les sites naturels? Je suis également preneur de tous bons plans concernant les guest houses, transports, etc etc Pour info, je vais surement atterrir à Marrakech... @ +
Bonjour Raju, J'aurais préféré t'envoyer un MP pour te conseiller un lieu et une adresse (dont je reviens totalement conquise) mais je n'ai pas suffisamment posté pour pouvoir le faire... Je viens d'apprendre qu'il faut avoir écrit 20 posts pour pouvoir le faire... Donc voilà, si tu es amoureux de sites naturels, la région du lac de Bin el Ouidane (à 2h30 de voiture de Marrakech) me paraît pouvoir faire ton bonheur... Il y a plein de balades magnifiques à faire à proximité ! Pour ce qui est de l'hébergement, il n'y a pas grand chose autour du lac, le site est (pour l'instant) intact, ce qui préserve toute sa majestuosité. Je résidais dans une guest house, Altaïr, que je te recommande vivement si tu vas dans la région. Si tu peux m'envoyer un MP, dans le cas où tu voudrais en savoir plus, n'hésite-pas. Bonne journée ! Agatha
C'est étonnant, à ma connaissance il n'y a pas de minimum de messages à émettre avant de pouvoir accèder au MP . Je t'ai envoyé un MP pour essai car moi je suis encore loin de mes 20 posts et j'ai déjà envoyé quelques MP sans problèmes . Par contre, c'est dommage d'émettre des renseignements en MP qui peuvent intéresser tout le monde . L'intéret du forum c'est aussi de pouvoir s'informer sur l'ensemble des dialogues . Pour ma part je pars début Janvier découvrir le Maroc et vais chercher un peu de douceur ( côté météo ) et espère ne pas être déçu . Fès, Meknès, Marrakech, Agadir, Essaouira, El-Jadida, Tanger seront mes principales haltes en deux mois . Salam
Bonjour Tayib
De Meknes passe a Beni Mellal c est une ville qui ne peux laisser indifferent .Si tu aimes les discotheques les cinemas le paraitre les riads n y viens pas tu seras deçu mais si tu cherches a connaître le Maroc tu seras a ton affaire . Pour te dire que Beni Mellal est boude des touristes en une semaine nous en avons vu deux . Ici personne ne chasse le touriste la ville est paisible
Bonne vacances
Jean -Marc Maryse
De Meknes passe a Beni Mellal c est une ville qui ne peux laisser indifferent .Si tu aimes les discotheques les cinemas le paraitre les riads n y viens pas tu seras deçu mais si tu cherches a connaître le Maroc tu seras a ton affaire . Pour te dire que Beni Mellal est boude des touristes en une semaine nous en avons vu deux . Ici personne ne chasse le touriste la ville est paisible
Bonne vacances
Jean -Marc Maryse
Jean-Marc & Maryse
Qui plante un arbre, plante le bonheur (proverbe chinois)
Qui plante un arbre, plante le bonheur (proverbe chinois)
Bonjour à toi et merci du renseignement . J'irai peut être me ballader par là à la seule condition que ce ne soit pas trop difficile d'accès . Je ne vais utiliser que les transports en commun mais je prends l'info, on ne sait jamais . De fès, j'espère pouvoir aller passer une journée à Meknès et une autre vers Volubilis . Quant aux discothèques, ce n'est plus qu'un vieux souvenir ( j'ai 54 ans ) et de toute façon çà n'a jamais été trop mon truc . Encore merci
T'as des milliers de trucs à voir au Maroc : les souks, la place djema el fnah, merzouga et le desert, la vallée de l Ourika...J'ai trouvé un site avec cinquantaine d'idées de visite et nature sur la maroc qui te synthétise tout ça : http://www.cityzeum.com/tourisme/maroc
bon voyage
bonjour
je me permet de vous envoyer ce mail pour avoir quelques renseignements
voila nous avons dédidé de faire un voyage au maroc durant le mois de mai en 4x4, ( nous sommes 2 vehicules)
j'aimerai bien savoir ce qui ne faut pas rater tout en sachant que nous aimons mieux tous ce qui est proche de la nature
du style un oasis ou une randonées avec des dunes, des grottes a visiter des chutes d'eau ....
mais aussi pour voir des mosquées et les palais du roi et aussi les souks
encore une petite question, l'année derniere nous avons aidé des jeunes du 4l trophe qui ammène des fournitures scolaire mais je pense que d'ammener des vetement pour certaines personnes pourrai etre de plus grande utilité
merci de votre reponse et peu ete a un de ces jours
2008 concordia
2010 pacifica
Bonjour
Pour votre séjour, je vous propose ce ci: transport: trains ou CTM ( compagnie de transport par bus: bonne qualité et respect des horaires avec tarifs presque semblables aux autres compagnie) pour vos hébergement: personnellement je préfère les maisons d'hotes ( intimité, service personnalisé, tranquillité, style traditionnel)
Voici 2 propositions
http://www.palaismehdi.com
a l’exterieur de la medina ( dans la palmeraie) a 10 min en voiture du centre ville et des principales place touristiques : qualité et luxe( tarifs a partir de 250 euro) (piscine, climatisation, solarium, hammam….)
http://www.riadeldar.com
a l’intérieur de la médina, a 10 min a pied de la koutoubia, Djamelfna et du centre ville
(piscine, climatisation, solarium, hammam….) le pied !
Bonjour
je reviens tout juste de 2 semaines au Maroc:
1ère semaine, location de voiture, avec TrocaderoCar à Marrakech, très fiable, et excellent rapport qualité prix. Nos étapes se trouvent dans le guide du routard et étaient toutes très sympa: Telouet (maison d'hôtes Afoulki - visiter la Kasbah), Tamnougalt (les jardins de Tamnougalt), Tissergate (à 8km au nord de Zagora, Le sauvage noble et agence renard bleu touareg pour partir dans le désert. puis Tisseldei (maison d'hôtes I Rocha)
2ème seamine: Marrakech: Riad Sacr http://www.dar-riad-sacr.com/ beaucoup aimé. présente l'avantage d'être petit donc accueil personnalisé et surtout tenu par une famille marocaine et non par des français!!!
à dispo sur tu souhaites des détails
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Okay, I realize this involves a lot of driving, and we’re still debating the return route since we’d like to avoid the Tichka Pass in January, but going through Taroudant seems like it would add *a lot* of time. 😕
If you’ve got other suggestions for an itinerary with great hikes, I’m all ears!
Also, the 4 nights total in MRK isn’t really our preference, but since we’re arriving/departing super early from overseas, we’d like to be a bit rested before the long flight.
Another question: For hikes (aside from the desert one), is it better to have a guide with us, or are the trails well-marked?
Thanks for your help!
Here’s a first draft for a 14-night itinerary during the Christmas break with two teens. We’re especially fond of hiking (nothing too extreme, though), which is why we’re drawn to the south.
- Marrakech (2 nights) - Aït Ben Haddou (1 night) - Dadès (3 nights, though we’re thinking of doing a day trip to the Todra Gorge on one of those days) - M'hamid (1 night) - Erg Chigaga (1 night) - 4 nights to slot in - Marrakech (2 nights)
Okay, I realize this involves a lot of driving, and we’re still debating the return route since we’d like to avoid the Tichka Pass in January, but going through Taroudant seems like it would add *a lot* of time. 😕
If you’ve got other suggestions for an itinerary with great hikes, I’m all ears!
Also, the 4 nights total in MRK isn’t really our preference, but since we’re arriving/departing super early from overseas, we’d like to be a bit rested before the long flight.
Another question: For hikes (aside from the desert one), is it better to have a guide with us, or are the trails well-marked?
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Hi everyone,
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It seems to be the low season, so I’d love to travel without having to book accommodations in advance. In other countries, pre-booking has restricted us and kept us from visiting unplanned sites. Freedom is important to us, but I’d also like to avoid arriving somewhere and finding nothing available. What do you recommend? Book ahead or not? Your advice is always helpful, and thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me. Roberto
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Hello to all Morocco lovers,
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
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(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
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First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
Fran
hi there,
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Thanks in advance for your help....
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Thanks in advance for your help....
Hi
I’d like to know if the road between Msemrir and Tamttatouchte is doable with a standard car (Dacia Logan).
Thanks a lot
hi,
I’m looking for a country to visit for 10 days in February.
What do you recommend for a trip with some sunshine, hiking, and sightseeing?
Thanks for your help
Thanks for your help
Hi, I’d like to head to Morocco next week with my car. I’ve looked online at all the different info about the ferry crossing to Tangier, but I’m finding it really expensive. Is there a way to buy tickets in Spain? Or another way to get the Algeciras–Tangier crossing cheaper? Thanks for any tips or info!
Hi there,
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April. What do you think of this rate? This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Thanks
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April. What do you think of this rate? This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Thanks
Hi there,
We're planning to visit Egypt between January 25 and February 15, 2027. I looked up the Ramadan dates and found some sites saying it starts on February 8, while others say February 18... Where's the mistake?
Thanks,
Christian
Hi there,
We’re a family of 4 with two boys aged 12 and 10 traveling to Egypt in February.
We’re spending 3 days in Cairo to take our time exploring the city and the sites before heading south.
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available? -Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)? -Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
Marie
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available? -Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)? -Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
Marie
Hi there!
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?) - What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!) - In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid? - Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country? - A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
Thanks so much for your advice!
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?) - What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!) - In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid? - Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country? - A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
Thanks so much for your advice!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you: - Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why? - Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies. - Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car? - Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years. Have a great evening, Roberto
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you: - Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why? - Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies. - Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car? - Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years. Have a great evening, Roberto
hi, I just wanted to know the exchange rate for euros in Tunisia, thanks
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
Hi there,
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili? If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them. I didn’t find any info on the forum. Best,
Fouzi
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili? If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them. I didn’t find any info on the forum. Best,
Fouzi
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
Hi there, 🙂
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities. Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Thanks
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities. Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Thanks
Based on your experiences, do you have a professional to recommend?
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency. If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling. We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback! Safe travels to all, Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency. If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling. We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback! Safe travels to all, Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
Hi, I'm looking for a taxi from Dakhla airport to downtown Dakhla.
If you know a contact ?????
Hi there,
I’m looking for info about driving a vehicle in Tunisia.
Is it complicated?
Do I need an international driver’s permit?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Any recommendations?
Have a great day
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Any recommendations?
Have a great day
It's all in the title.
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
I know there are experts on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
I know there are experts on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Hi there,
I’m looking for some friendly recommendations for places to stay in Marrakech for 3 nights in June 2026.
In the meantime, have a great day, everyone! Thanks so much in advance.








