Tarifs des bateaux pour l'Algérie cet été 2009!
by Sunnycruise
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J'ai consulté le site sncm ce matin et j'ai pu constater que les tarifs étaient hors de prix! Une voiture 4 personnes en cabine 2400 euros!! C'est scandaleux. Malgré la crise beaucoup de monde a ou va réserver car la navigation sur le site est très lente. Je pense qu'il est plus sage de passer ses vacances en France ou bien d'aller en Tunisie car la ctn pratique des tarifs plus intéressants.
Bonnes vacances à tous!
barcelone alger ou oran ou bien alicante alger et aussi oran 12 heures de traversee seulement .tu as aussi par l'italie genes tunis puis l'algerie 23 heures de traversee
Oui, effectivement, il y a des traversées par l'Espagne mais:Barcelone vers l'Algérie 4 personnes + une voiture = 2800 euros!Alicante vers l'Algérie = si t'habites en France faut meme pas y penser; essence + fatigueItalie Tunisie: le billet est abordable mais il y a toujours le cout de l'essence pour certains
Mais pourquoi les compagnies Algériennes imposent-elles des tarifs aussi chers? C'est scandaleux! En plus je ne parle meme pas du service sur les bateaux. Et l'attente aux ports Algériens à cause du manque d'efficacité des personnels portuaires! Allez, bonnes vacances quand meme!
Mais pourquoi les compagnies Algériennes imposent-elles des tarifs aussi chers? C'est scandaleux! En plus je ne parle meme pas du service sur les bateaux. Et l'attente aux ports Algériens à cause du manque d'efficacité des personnels portuaires! Allez, bonnes vacances quand meme!
bonjour à tous,
Nous sommes une famille de 8 personnes
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L'Algérie profite sur le dos des émigrés vivant en France ou en Europe en imposant des prix hors norme sachant que nos voisins marocains et tunisiens paient de maudite somme pour passer des vacances dans leur pays.
Pourquoi les compagnies algeriennes augmentent-elles leurs tarifs en cette periode de crise ?
Pourquoi les réservations ne sont ouverts que 2 mois et demi avant la saison estivale et qu'il y'a plus de place dés l'ouverture des reservations ?
Je pense que la plupart des Algeriens ne peuvent pas assumer une telle somme donc ils ne peuvent pas voir ni leurs famille ni leur pays .
Je propose envers la communauté algerienne souhaitant partir en Algerie de manifester notre mecontement envers les representants algeriennes c'est à dire les consulats algeriens. Je demande à ce que ce message soit divulguer à l'ensemble des algeriens. Merci
la compagnie algerienne pour la traversée Alicante Oran nous demande une somme exorbitante de 2000 euros sans compter les frais du trajet c'est à dire essence et nourriture. A noter que les conditions de la traversée sont penible de plus il y'a aucun accueil de leur part.
L'Algérie profite sur le dos des émigrés vivant en France ou en Europe en imposant des prix hors norme sachant que nos voisins marocains et tunisiens paient de maudite somme pour passer des vacances dans leur pays.
Pourquoi les compagnies algeriennes augmentent-elles leurs tarifs en cette periode de crise ?
Pourquoi les réservations ne sont ouverts que 2 mois et demi avant la saison estivale et qu'il y'a plus de place dés l'ouverture des reservations ?
Je pense que la plupart des Algeriens ne peuvent pas assumer une telle somme donc ils ne peuvent pas voir ni leurs famille ni leur pays .
Je propose envers la communauté algerienne souhaitant partir en Algerie de manifester notre mecontement envers les representants algeriennes c'est à dire les consulats algeriens. Je demande à ce que ce message soit divulguer à l'ensemble des algeriens. Merci
Bonjour,
je crois que les compagnies algeriennes comme d'autres compagnies dans le monde augmentent leurs tarifs en periode dites de "haute saison" ceci repond a la loi de l'offre et la demande. De plus, je ne comprends pas les reactions du style, la compagnie veut se faire de l'argent sur le dos des emigres !!! que je sache ces tarifs sont applique a n'importe quel personne de n'importe quel nationalite non? Maintenant, je trouve aussi que les prix sont chers et que la qualite du service laisse a desirer, mais la c'est un autre debat.... Si ca peux aider, hier j'avais entendu la entmv qui annoncait une reduction de 50%, voir certain services gratuit pour les emigres qui veulent passer leur vaccance en algerie.
Que se soit en Algerie ou ailleurs, bonne vaccances a tous 😉
je crois que les compagnies algeriennes comme d'autres compagnies dans le monde augmentent leurs tarifs en periode dites de "haute saison" ceci repond a la loi de l'offre et la demande. De plus, je ne comprends pas les reactions du style, la compagnie veut se faire de l'argent sur le dos des emigres !!! que je sache ces tarifs sont applique a n'importe quel personne de n'importe quel nationalite non? Maintenant, je trouve aussi que les prix sont chers et que la qualite du service laisse a desirer, mais la c'est un autre debat.... Si ca peux aider, hier j'avais entendu la entmv qui annoncait une reduction de 50%, voir certain services gratuit pour les emigres qui veulent passer leur vaccance en algerie.
Que se soit en Algerie ou ailleurs, bonne vaccances a tous 😉
je crois que les compagnies algeriennes comme d'autres compagnies dans le monde augmentent leurs tarifs en periode dites de "haute saison"
Croyez-moi, à ce prix-là, ce sont des tarifs de très très haute saison. Une croisière aux caraibes en haute saison est moitié moins chère.
De plus, je ne comprends pas les reactions du style, la compagnie veut se faire de l'argent sur le dos des emigres !!! que je sache ces tarifs sont applique a n'importe quel personne de n'importe quel nationalite non?
Il se trouve que la quasi-majorité des passagers sont des émigrés donc..... Les émigrés font beaucoup de sacrifices pour voir leurs familles et l'état en profite!
hier j'avais entendu la entmv qui annoncait une reduction de 50%, voir certain services gratuit pour les emigres qui veulent passer leur vaccance en algerie.
Ah bon?? où ça? EN tous cas moi ça m'intéresse! Je sais qu'avec Air Algérie ils ont fait des accords pour faire des réduction aux "émigrés" défavorisés. Mais ça reste très cher de traverser la Méditerranée quand meme!
Les passagers qui voyagent de l'autre coté de la méditerranée ne sont que de simples gens qui veulent revoir leurs familles, amis, ou bien pour se recueillir sur les tombes de leurs parents pour certains, vous voyez, et supportent tant bien que mal les mauvaises conditions de voyage; mais de là à pratiquer des tarifs exhorbitants c'est inacceptable. Les "émigrés" ne sont pas des touristes friqués avec plein d'Euros ou de dollars dans les poches. Franchement quand on voit les Tunisiens ou Marocains qui peuvent meme se permettre deux voyages par an, on se demande pourquoi c'est si différent pour les Algériens!! Espérons que la prochaine saison les compagnies seront plus raisonnables.
Croyez-moi, à ce prix-là, ce sont des tarifs de très très haute saison. Une croisière aux caraibes en haute saison est moitié moins chère.
De plus, je ne comprends pas les reactions du style, la compagnie veut se faire de l'argent sur le dos des emigres !!! que je sache ces tarifs sont applique a n'importe quel personne de n'importe quel nationalite non?
Il se trouve que la quasi-majorité des passagers sont des émigrés donc..... Les émigrés font beaucoup de sacrifices pour voir leurs familles et l'état en profite!
hier j'avais entendu la entmv qui annoncait une reduction de 50%, voir certain services gratuit pour les emigres qui veulent passer leur vaccance en algerie.
Ah bon?? où ça? EN tous cas moi ça m'intéresse! Je sais qu'avec Air Algérie ils ont fait des accords pour faire des réduction aux "émigrés" défavorisés. Mais ça reste très cher de traverser la Méditerranée quand meme!
Les passagers qui voyagent de l'autre coté de la méditerranée ne sont que de simples gens qui veulent revoir leurs familles, amis, ou bien pour se recueillir sur les tombes de leurs parents pour certains, vous voyez, et supportent tant bien que mal les mauvaises conditions de voyage; mais de là à pratiquer des tarifs exhorbitants c'est inacceptable. Les "émigrés" ne sont pas des touristes friqués avec plein d'Euros ou de dollars dans les poches. Franchement quand on voit les Tunisiens ou Marocains qui peuvent meme se permettre deux voyages par an, on se demande pourquoi c'est si différent pour les Algériens!! Espérons que la prochaine saison les compagnies seront plus raisonnables.
pour la traversee barçelone alger 3 adultes + 2 enfants et un monospace citroen evasion 1560 euro avec euromer et pour information c'est la compagnie algerienne qui fait cette traversee et non pas la sncm pour ce qui est des reductions que ce soit au depart de la france ou de l'espagne elle ne s'adresse qu'aux familles algerienne inscritent au consulat et qui ont des revenus egal ou inferieur au smic français ou espagnol
bonsoir
tu as raison sache que l algerie c est pas des algerien qui la gouverne mais des chiens et oui des salopard c est normal pour eux les emigré ont des liasses d euro dans leurs villa de luxe en europe tout les algeriens ces des vaches a traire
des fois ca fait honte de dire ou d etre algerien de plus en plus ce pays me degoute a chaque fois que quelqu un veut partir voir sa famille il lui faut des medicaments des tranquilisant quand on voit l anarchie qu il y a a marseille l ete c est pas humain c est pire que bestial
mais on dirait qu il y a beaucoup de gens qui adore ca
cf
Oui mais quand tu habites en France, faire le trajet disons de Paris ou Lyon à Palerme, c'est pas un peu fatiguant? En plus faut pas oublier les couts essence péage non? Et ça prend combien de temps pour y arriver? Remarque, ça ferait un super itinéraire et de belles vacances! Y en a qui l'ont déjà fait? J'aimerais bien savoir comment le trajet s'est passé et peut etre passer par Palerme l'an prochain!
Je pars abituellement de Lyon /Marseilles, pour arriver a skikda, cette année avec mes 3 enfants, 2 adultes et un vehicules ont devait payer 2200 environs, en passent par Genes(Italie/Tunis pour aller a constantine on a payer 1200, poiur apeine 100 klm de plus en france et un peu plus en algerie.
pour 1000 euros de plus y a pas photo.
1 copain seul avec vehicule devait partir de marseille pour skikda pour 1400, et la par gene c'est 616 euros Imaginez.....Les 2 agences de voyages mon confirmé l'augmentation des tariffs sur l'Algerie cette année.
Toutes ces soient disant réductions ne sont que des effets d'annonces qui ne seront jamais appliqués aujourd'hui comme demain. A titre d'exemple:
4 passagers +1 vehicule classe cabine. A/R
Alicante Alger Alicante: 1790 euro
Marseilles Alger Marseilles :2790 euro a bord du tariq
Barcelone Alger Barcelone :2290 qui dit mieux.
Pourquoi sur la traversée Algerie, que vous ayez 1 twingo ou 407sw vous payez pareil ? certainement pas le prix du vehicule le moins cher.
Pourquoi la traversée Marseilles Tunis qui dure 6h deplus que sur Alger, est moins cher a bord de la meme compagnie " sncm"?
Comment se fait-il que vous 300 euro en taxe" portuaire et transport" vers Alger et 183 euro sur Tunis?
Savez-vous que Marseilles Alger vous payerai 200 euro en restauration ? Prix forfaitaire compris ds le billet /pour 2 adultes et 2 enfants.
ENMTV et SNCM s'entendent bel et bien sur le dos du clt a destination de l'Algerie.
Tu as bien raison Faycal2011!! Des tarifs injustifiables pour la destination Algérie. C'est inacceptable d'autant plus que nous savons tous dans quelles conditions les passagers voyagent. Pour ce qui est des tarifs SNCM, je pense que la SNCM est OBLIGEE de s'aligner sur les tarifs d'Algérie Ferries puisque comme tu le soulignes si bien
Pourquoi la traversée Marseilles Tunis qui dure 6h deplus que sur Alger, est moins cher a bord de la meme compagnie " sncm"?
C'est tout simplement qu'ils sont obligés de le faire. Y a qu'à voir sur les bateaux vers la tunisie les tarifs sont les memes que ceux de la CTN et donc moins chers que les tarifs pratiqués pas Algérei Ferries. Voilà! tout le monde passe par la Tunisie maintenant pour épargner le porte monnaie. Et Faycal2011 a raison de dire que leurs réductions ne sont que des effets d'annonce, du vent! Faut pas exagérer quand meme. Je pense aussi que la Tunisie est une option non négligeable meme s'il faut faire un long trajet et repasser la frontière tant pis! Faudra faire ainsi jusqu'à ce que les autorités algériennes ouvrent les yeux et fassent ce qu'il faut pour ses concitoyens.
Pourquoi la traversée Marseilles Tunis qui dure 6h deplus que sur Alger, est moins cher a bord de la meme compagnie " sncm"?
C'est tout simplement qu'ils sont obligés de le faire. Y a qu'à voir sur les bateaux vers la tunisie les tarifs sont les memes que ceux de la CTN et donc moins chers que les tarifs pratiqués pas Algérei Ferries. Voilà! tout le monde passe par la Tunisie maintenant pour épargner le porte monnaie. Et Faycal2011 a raison de dire que leurs réductions ne sont que des effets d'annonce, du vent! Faut pas exagérer quand meme. Je pense aussi que la Tunisie est une option non négligeable meme s'il faut faire un long trajet et repasser la frontière tant pis! Faudra faire ainsi jusqu'à ce que les autorités algériennes ouvrent les yeux et fassent ce qu'il faut pour ses concitoyens.
salut a tous, il n y rien attendre des autorités algeriennes pour arranger tout ca, vous le savez tous. ces pseudos gestes sur les prix, comme dit plus haut, aideront un tres petit nombre et de toute facon sur la place passager et NON PAS SUR LA VOITURE qui fait les trois quart du prix du billet. les prix les plus chers au monde pour des gens qui triment dur avec des petits salaires, dire que c est une honte, un scandale ne sert pas a grand chose car c est encore pire que ca, et de toute facon au niveau arnaque, vol, racket, scandale, ils ne sont pas a ca pres. je vous bloque une place? m a t on dit a l agence, non merci car c est une arnaque, aurevoir. les idées de petitions, le boycott des lignes ? ils n en ont rien a foutre car il faudrait que ce soit massif et concerté pour etre puissant et entendu.......
ce pays ne changera jamais et malgré tout les sacrifices des anciens et des autres, il restera tel qu il est . un ptit tour au consulat et t as tout compris.... faut juste se faire une raison.
Cher ami j'ai hésité avant de vous répondre, mais finalement j'ai décidé d'apporter ces quelques précisions.
s'il est vrai qu'en période de vacances les tarifs sont plus élevés, je dirai oui mais concernant l'Algerie on ne peut pas parler de" lois de l'offre et de la demande".
Car si la demande existe et elle est fortement encouragée par des frontiere fermer a l'ouest et une douane qui vous décourage coté est(tunisie) .le reste ne suit pas, puisque il-y-a absence "voulue" de conccurence et je dirais meme plus, "Il-y-a entente sur les tarifs"entre la SNCM et ENMTV. Quand vous n'avez que deux opérateurs sur un segment et que ces deux la s'entendent sur les tarifs. ON NE PEUT PLUS PARLER D'OFFRES ET DE DEMANDES.
Autres choses faites exactement la meme réservation une fois de France comme résidant en France, puis en Algerie comme résidant en Algérie .non on ne paye pas pareil, le billet régler en dinars et beucoups moins chèr.
Car si la demande existe et elle est fortement encouragée par des frontiere fermer a l'ouest et une douane qui vous décourage coté est(tunisie) .le reste ne suit pas, puisque il-y-a absence "voulue" de conccurence et je dirais meme plus, "Il-y-a entente sur les tarifs"entre la SNCM et ENMTV. Quand vous n'avez que deux opérateurs sur un segment et que ces deux la s'entendent sur les tarifs. ON NE PEUT PLUS PARLER D'OFFRES ET DE DEMANDES.
Autres choses faites exactement la meme réservation une fois de France comme résidant en France, puis en Algerie comme résidant en Algérie .non on ne paye pas pareil, le billet régler en dinars et beucoups moins chèr.
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Tickets for entry to Majorelle Garden are only issued online via an official site
(though there are fraudulent sites out there). On the official site, they ask for legitimate info
(name, nationality, etc.). What made me go "hmm" was the request for both an email address
AND a password (with confirmation). Is this normal?
Thanks for your replies.
Hi there, a group of girlfriends and I are heading to Tunisia. We’d love to know how much cash we should bring for 6 days, considering everything’s already paid for at the hotel. Thanks for your tips!
Hi everyone! :)
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!




