j'envisage de visiter la birmanie au mois de juillet prochain.
L'itinéraire serait le suivant
> Yangon, Bago, Taungoo.
>. taungoo, Kalaw.
> Kalaw, Pindaya, Inle.
> Mandalay, Mingun
>Mandalay, Amarapura, Inwa.
Mandalay, Pyin Oo lwin.
- Pyin Oo Lwin, Hsibaw.
Hsibaw
Mandalay.
bagan
- taungoo, Yangon.
J'aimerais le faire majoritairement en train, en bus , en bateau (pour manadalay-bagan) et peut e^tre en voiture.
Pouvez-vous m'indiquer les temps de trajet, les meilleurs lignes de bus et de train et un chauffeur.
Toutes ces précautions sont justifiées du fait que c'est mon prmeier séjour et que je suis accompagné d'un enfant de 11 ans
dans l'attente de vos témoignages et merci
Je peux commencer à compléter ta question par rapport à ce que l'on a fait.
Trajet en train entre Thazi (station de changement depuis Yangon ou Mandalay) et Shwenyaung (Stop pour le Lac Inle) : 11h pour 140 km... C'est long mais le trajet et les rencontres sont réellement magnifiques ! A FAIRE ABSOLUMENT !
Le train est à 6h du mat, mais se pointer à directement à l'intérieur du guichet de la gare à 5h minimum si vous voulez un billet, c'est blindé de birmans. Donc pas le choix, vous devez dormir dans une guesthouse de Thazi. Si vous arrivez tard ce qui sera surement le cas, les guesthouses sembleront fermées, mais il y a toujours une sonnette pour réveiller les patrons. Thazi peut paraitre glauque et flippant, mais ça craint pas. Et même à 2h du mat il y a quelqu'un pour vous aider spontanément... Comme partout dans ce pays !
Ensuite les trajets en bus sont aussi très longs, ils commencent à améliorer les routes, mais c'est pas prêt d'être terminé.
Pour aller de Yangon à Kyaiktiyo, compte 5h de bus, puis 1 heures de bus 4x4, et 2 heures de marches, donc prévoir une nuit là-bas.
De Bagan à Tazi, prévoir 4h de bus. Et du lac Inle à Mandaly, prévoit 8h (bus de nuit, lorsque t’arrive à Mandalay vers 4h du mat, préférer les motos taxis pas cher).
Voyager en Birmanie à la routard c'est fatiguant, mais tout à fait possible avec un enfant si on est motivé.
On connait très bien l'Asie du Sud-Est, et la Birmanie est un pays vraiment à part. Magnifique et encore préservé. Les Birmans te sourient et intéressent à toi pour ce que tu es, pas pour ce que tu peux leur acheter (enfin en général).
bonjour nico
je voudrai quelques renseignements que je cherche a droite et a gauche mais tjs pas de reponse
je peux faire bagan thazi en bus? connais tu les horaires
et après faire thazi kalaw en train as tu les horaires et la durée
cordialement
Ouai j'ai aussi pas mal galéré pour préparer le truc, j'ai toutes réponses :
On a fait Bagan > Thazi en bus, départ vers 18h (un peu avant ou après). Sur place on a booké par MTT à New Bagan (Regarde sur la carte de New Bagan du Lonely), l'agence de tourisme d'état, ils font amateurs mais ils sont sérieux. Un taxi de la compagnie de bus vient te prendre à ton hôtel (une heure de retard mais ça passe, le bus part pas sans toi). Arrivé à la station de bus, tu dois te faire connaitre au comptoir de la compagnie pour qu'il t'attribue un siège.
Environ 10 000K si je me souviens bien, pour 4/5 heures de bus. Arrivé à Thazi vers 1/2h du matin, ils te lachent sur la rue principale, ne suis pas les explications du Lonely concernant les guesthouses et la guare... Les guesthouses se trouvent sur la même rue, juste avant le passage à niveau que le bus vient de passer (donc tu repars 100m en arrière). Là tu trouveras la Moonlight Guesthouses, surement fermée vu l'heure, mais il y a une sonnette interrupteur pour les réveiller, ne pas hésiter à le faire, ce sont des locaux qui nous l'ont indiqué. S'ils sont pleins la patronne t'indiquera la guesthouse de sa sœur 30m plus loin.
Sois présent à la gare dès 5h du mat pour prendre le ticket de train pour Kalaw (départ à 6h). Ne fait pas la queue, tu es étranger et tu payes en dollars (3$). Passe directement dans la pièce des guichets, le chef de gare est le seul à parler anglais il faut direct lui demander. Le trajet est long (6/8h) mais vraiment beau, et le contact avec les Birmans est très sympa.
Voila, j'espère avoir pu t'aider. Si tu as d'autres questions, n'hésites pas ! Sinon bon voyage, c'est un pays vraiment trippant !
bonjour
tout d'abord merci
peux tu me donner des guesthouses sympas que tu as pu pratiquer
quel est le parcours que tu as fais je veux bien te donner le miens et tu diras ce que tu en penses
combien de temps est tu partis est ce facile de trouver des hotels sans reserver sachant que je pars mi oct a nov
je fais deux treks kalaw et kyaukme connais tu les coins as tu des guides a me conseiller
cordialement
Je n'ai pas eu le temps de faire des treks.
Pour les hôtels, nous y étions en très haute saison, nous avons un peu luté pour en trouver mais c'était possible avec une résa 2/3j à l'avance, alors à ta période, ça ne devrait poser aucun problème.
Voici les hôtels que l'on a squatté :
Yangon : Mother Land Inn 2, très bon rapport qualité/prix/service, mais à booker avant ton départ. Ils peuvent venir te chercher gratos à l'aéroport, et sont super aimable si tu as besoin de d'aide ou pour booker d'autres trucs.
New Bagan : Thiri Marlar, tenu par un expat français depuis 20a (il aura changer de proprio quand tu y seras). Excellent service, propreté nickel mais surtout super emplacement ! Prix très correct pour la Birmanie.
Nyaungshwe : Inle Inn, une sombre merde ! A part le réceptionniste qui est VRAIMENT compétent et sympa, cet hotel/guesthouse est une horreur ! En trois nuits, ils nous ont changé trois fois de chambres, c'est hors de prix et il fait froid, aucune isolation !
Envoie moi ton parcours si tu as besoin.
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Mandalay : AD1, une grosse merde sale ! Pas du tout sympas, mais pas mal placé. Ne pas hésiter à utiliser les motos taxis, mêmé pour les booker la journée pour faire l'ensemble des trucs à voir et surtout Saggain !!!
bonsoir et merci
je te donne mon trajet
arivée yangon a 13h30 le 17 oct
18oct bus de nuit pour mandalay
19 oct madalay
20 oct mandalay
21 oct train mandalay kyaukme
22 23 24 oct trek a kyaukme
25 oct retour sur mandalay par bus
26 oct mandalay
27 oct mandalay bagan en bateau
28 29 oct bagan
30 oct bagan thazi en bus
31 oct thazi kalaw en train
1nov kalaw ou depart pour le trek (voir si c'est possible)
2 3 4 nov trek
5 6 nov lac inlé retour pour yangon
7 nov yangon
8 nov depart en soirée
j'hésite de commencer par mandalay ou bagan
je ne sais pas non plus les horaires de bus du lac inle a yangon et la durée
bref donne moi ton avis s.t.p.cordialement
bonjour
tu veux dire que je pourai faire
yangon bagan mandalay kyaukme mandalay kalaw lac inle yangon
ca m'embete un peu car je ne pourrai pas faire en train thazi kalaw.
a moins que je fasse un trek sur pindaya au lieu du lac inle.
qu' en penses tu
Salut, non mais tu peux faire Yangon, Bagan, Thazi, train pour Kwalaw treck pour Inle, Pindaya, Mandalay et Kyaukme. Si tu as du temps tu optimises ainsi. Tu n'as pas prévu de faire le Golden Rock ?
Je ne ais pas par où tu passes pour aller à Yangon, mais nous sommes passés par Bangkok et avons pris avec Air Asia un aller Yangon et un retour depuis Mandalay, histoire de ne pas perdre du temps à retourner à Yangon.
bonjour
golden rock jamais entendu peux tu m'en dire plus
il est trop tard pour les billets ils snt achetés et j avais fait le calcul ca me coutait plus cher
a bientot
Le rocher d'Or du mont Kyaiktiyo, à l'est de Yangon. Un des endroits les plus sacrées de Birmanie, tu peux le caler en 2 jours (A/R avec un nuit à Kipun). C'est la photo qui se trouve sur le Géo spécial Birmanie.
Salut, non mais tu peux faire Yangon, Bagan, Thazi, train pour Kwalaw treck pour Inle, Pindaya, Mandalay et Kyaukme. Si tu as du temps tu optimises ainsi. Tu n'as pas prévu de faire le Golden Rock ?
Je ne ais pas par où tu passes pour aller à Yangon, mais nous sommes passés par Bangkok et avons pris avec Air Asia un aller Yangon et un retour depuis Mandalay, histoire de ne pas perdre du temps à retourner à Yangon.
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salut je vois que ton message date mais faut-il confirmer les réservations auprès de Air Asia ? j'ai pris cette compagnie aussi et on part de BKK je me demandais s'il fallait confirmer
de plus, pour le visa birman tu saurais si on peut le faire à Chiang Mai ?
Merci de ta réponse
"Et il n'est rien de plus beau que l'instant qui précède le voyage, l'instant où l'horizon de demain vient nous rendre visite et nous dire ses promesses."
Non pas besoin, Air Asia une grande compagnie international qui suit les normes IATA pour les billets électroniques.
Tu te pointes juste avec ton passeport, et pourquoi pas une impression de ton mail de confirmation pour faciliter et accélérer les choses.
Alors là aucune idée ! Nous on l'a fait à Paris, je pense que tu dois pouvoir le faire à Bangkok, sinon on a vu que tu peux le faire à l'arrivée à l'aéroport de Yangon également. Renseignes toi mieux sur le Web.
super merci beaucoup de la réponse plus que rapide !!!
reste à nous décider sur notre itinéraire ;-)
"Et il n'est rien de plus beau que l'instant qui précède le voyage, l'instant où l'horizon de demain vient nous rendre visite et nous dire ses promesses."
nous partons dans un mois en Birmanie pour une quinzaine de jours. Nous avons prévu de nous arrêter à Taungoo et ensuite de partir sur le lac Inle pour faire un trek avant de rejoindre Mandalay. Pouvez vous me dire s'il y a moyen d'aller de Taungoo au Lac Inle en bus ou en train ?
Merci beaucoup
Christine
Hi everyone,
First of all, thank you for all the valuable information you share—it’s really helpful.
My husband and I are heading to South Korea from September 19 to October 6. We know the timing might not be ideal because of Chuseok, but for various reasons, we didn’t have other date options. Plus, this period coincides with some festivals we’ve been eager to check out: the Andong Mask Dance Festival, the Jinju Lantern Festival, and the Hwaseong Festival in Suwon.
Here’s our tentative itinerary:
09/19: Arrival in Seoul
09/20: Bus to Sokcho – explore the city or short hike
09/21: Seoraksan Park
09/22: Return to Seoul
09/23–09/26: Seoul
09/27: Bus or train to Andong – explore the city
09/28: Hahoe
09/29–10/01: Gyeongju
10/01–10/03: Busan
10/03–10/04: Jinju
10/05: Bus/train to Suwon
10/06: Suwon
So here’s my question: Given that several of our trips fall during or around festivals, will it be possible to book bus/train tickets once we’re there, or is there a risk they’ll already be sold out? Specifically for Seoul-Andong, Busan-Jinju, and Jinju-Suwon.
I was thinking of booking everything on our first day in Seoul.
And if it’s better to plan ahead, how should we go about it? I can’t seem to access the Korail (letskorail) or Kobus websites.
Thanks in advance for your answers and help—and sorry for the long post! :)
I’m planning our very first trip to mainland France in January 2027. There’ll be 2 adults and 2 kids, and we’ll mostly be traveling by train.
Here’s our itinerary:
Paris
Rouen (Normandy)
Lyon
Aix-les-Bains (with day trips to Annecy and Geneva)
Saint-Gervais-les-Bains (with Chamonix and a day in Aosta)
Back to Paris
Do you think this itinerary is well-balanced? Any tips, must-see spots, or mistakes to avoid for a first-time visit?
Hi! I’d like to make stops across France, starting from Reims, and travel by train using the Intercités. I want to discover the landscapes and picturesque villages, and make some stops along the way. Could you give me some tips? Thanks!
I can’t seem to complete the payment for my trip on the IRCTC (Indian Railways) site. No matter which payment method I choose, my Visa card isn’t accepted.
Has anyone here managed to do it, and if so, could you share the method you used?
Thanks in advance!
Charlie
I’m planning a family trip in a year. Our goal: traveling to China (and maybe Hong Kong) by train.
I’m all set with the route up to eastern Turkey.
However, I’m just starting my research for the rest of the journey—namely the Caucasus (no trains as far as I know, so buses and/or ferries), then Central Asia and China.
So, I’d love to hear any info or tips (general and forward-looking at this stage) about the train route through Central Asia and China to reach the east coast.
I’m particularly interested in details on:
- How far in advance to book / any potential difficulties with reservations
- Whether there are PASS systems (or equivalent) between countries and/or if some tickets allow stopovers, meaning you can hop on and off as you please
- Day trains vs. night trains (the latter option lets you explore cities between two legs of the journey)
- A rough idea of ticket costs
...
A huge thank you to anyone who can share some info or experiences. It’s also a great opportunity to chat about adventure after (way too) many years away from this forum.
I’m planning a trip around Italy using only trains or public transport in October (hoping the weather stays nice!).
I’d obviously like to see some tourist destinations, but I also want to get off the beaten path a bit, and I’m hoping to find some help here? I don’t plan to linger too long in the cities.
Starting in the north, I’d like to visit Lake Como or Lake Orta, pass through the Cinque Terre for some hiking, spend a few days in Naples and Rome, then head down to Sicily.
Hi there,
I’ll be traveling to Japan this coming August. We’ve finalized our itinerary and booked our flight tickets. Now I’m at the stage of buying train tickets for the few segments we’ll need to cover:
Tokyo - Hakone
Hakone - Kyoto
Kyoto - Osaka
Osaka - Tokyo
Here are my questions:
a) Is it possible to buy train tickets for these segments from Canada?
b) If so, which website should I use to do this?
c) And if it is possible, will we be able to print our tickets from Canada?
d) If it’s not possible, where in Tokyo should I go to buy these tickets when I arrive?
Hi everyone, I wanted to take the Paris-Berlin overnight train with a sleeper berth, the new service operated by European Sleepers.
24/05/2026 17:45 Paris-Nord (actually 16:00 from Paris Bercy Seine) -> 25/05/2026 9:59 (actually 7:30 in Berlin)
05/06/2026 18:31 Berlin (actually 20:00) -> 06/06/2026 10:00 Paris Nord (actually 12:30)
Part of the journey was operated by bus instead of the promised overnight train.
For 2 people: 340 € round trip
A total disaster. Never again. I was really looking forward to taking the overnight train, but we faced last-minute changes and truly unpleasant travel conditions. Here are the details:
1) 2 days before departure: email announcing a change of departure station for the outbound trip—Bercy Seine bus station instead of Gare du Nord.
2) Change of schedule: 4:00 PM from Bercy instead of 5:45 PM from Gare du Nord.
3) Change of transport mode!! A bus from Paris to Brussels, then an overnight train from Brussels to Berlin. No functional toilets on the bus. No children under 4 allowed on the bus.
4) On the sleeper train at 9:30 PM: no functional toilets in our carriage, so we had to go to other carriages, even in the middle of the night, to find working ones.
5) The onboard staff, though very friendly, were as lost as we were. In particular, they didn’t know how to handle the lower berths, so people using them had less space (armrests and backrests). Berth numbers weren’t respected, so some passengers had to move. The staff also didn’t know who was supposed to join the compartment during the journey.
6) Arrival at 7:30 AM in Berlin instead of 10:00 AM. No arrival announcement. Passengers had to search for staff to get breakfast and ended up with just a coffee (breakfast = 15 €, not bad for just a coffee).
7) Return trip: drastic schedule change announced by email on 26/05/2026—departure at 7:30 PM instead of 6:30 PM, with arrival between 12:00 PM and 1:00 PM in Paris instead of 10:00 AM. No change in transport mode announced.
8) Change in transport mode announced by email on the same day (05/06/2026)!! Overnight train from Brussels to Berlin, then a bus from Paris to Brussels. No functional toilets on the bus. Children under 4 banned from the bus, and families in this situation were asked to find another way—after being notified the same day.
9) The overnight train arrived at Berlin station with a 30-minute delay on top of its initial delay (scheduled for 6:31 PM, then 7:30 PM, finally arriving at 8:00 PM). The heating was blasting in the compartment with no way to turn it off. No functional toilets in the carriage. From that point on, customer service stopped responding to my messages.
10) Woken up at 5:00 AM with an announcement in all carriages about arrival in Liège.
11) Woken up again at 6:00 AM to be told we’d arrive in Brussels at 7:00 AM.
12) Arrival in Brussels at 7:00 AM and a one-hour wait for the bus to Paris. No functional toilets on the bus.
13) Arrival at Paris Nord at 12:30 PM, so 2.5 hours late compared to the originally scheduled time.
14) The overnight trains used are very old—I recognized the carriages from 20 years ago!! No functional power outlets, no Wi-Fi, no air conditioning. Five people per compartment is a bit cramped, but I consider these conditions expected (especially the air conditioning), so I’m not complaining about that. There’s already plenty to gripe about with the travel conditions.
I have little hope of getting even a partial refund. Customer service emails acknowledge the discomfort but only offer to reimburse the cost of a coffee on board if we send them the receipt... a bit weak.
I’m sharing this experience in the hope it might help others.
Hi there,
I’d like to take the Train of the Clouds from Lima to Huancayo.
I’ve heard it only runs during certain periods.
Does anyone have info on this?
Thanks!
HuancayoHuancayo
As part of my professional thesis, I’m conducting a study on the evolution of long-distance rail transport in France, particularly since it opened up to competition.
I’ve put together a very quick (about 5-minute) and completely anonymous questionnaire. Your answers will help me better understand users' expectations regarding pricing, frequency, and environmental impact.
We’re planning a 15-day trip to Uzbekistan in March—classic independent itinerary: Tashkent, Samarkand, Bukhara, Khiva. We’d like to take the train between each city, but I don’t want to lock down the whole trip before we leave.
So, my question is: is it absolutely necessary to book train tickets before departure, whether for the high-speed trains or the regional ones? Is booking really essential for the regional trains?
Hello,
We’re traveling as a family with two boys aged 10 and 12 to Cairo in February. During our trip, we’re planning to take an overnight train (with or without a sleeper) for the Cairo-Aswan route.
Do you know how I can book this remotely?
Also, I’m looking for:
- A local contact to sail the Nile by felucca for 3 days from Aswan
- A contact to guide us in Cairo
Looking forward to your tips, and thanks in advance!
Marie
Hi everyone,
I first traveled solo to Japan in 2019, exploring the Kyushu region (28 days), and I’m planning to return with my daughter (she’s an adult and it’ll be her first time in Asia) from April 25 to May 9.
I’m reaching out on this forum to ask for route ideas—this time north of Tokyo, but without heading to the Sapporo island (I’m saving that for a future trip).
I’d love to take advantage of the cherry blossom season and its festivities.
I’m looking to create a route that’s a little off the beaten path while staying within 5-6 hours by train from Tokyo to avoid spending too much time on transfers.
Thanks in advance for sharing your suggestions and experiences!
Michael
I'm heading to MEXICO IN NOVEMBER 2025. Since private guides and drivers are really expensive—over 300 € per day—I'm thinking of exploring the Yucatán by train. CAN YOU SHARE ANY INFO ON THIS? Thanks
Hi there!
We’re planning to visit Serbia (1 week) and then Montenegro (2nd week) with our kids from April 18 to May 4. We’d prefer to travel by train (overnight if possible), but we’re not sure which platform to book on or when to do it (is it too early?). If anyone has any tips, I’m all ears!!
I wanted to know if it’s possible to go from Tashkent to Almaty by train without passing through Kyrgyzstan. I’ve heard the border is often closed 😕 between Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan.
Thanks in advance!
Olivier
Hi there!
We’re planning to head back to Istanbul next year—obviously by plane—and then take the train from Istanbul to Antalya. Has anyone here already made this trip by train with TCDD?
I’d love any tips or info that could be useful for us!
I'd like to go to Montserrat on my own from Barcelona. Share your suggestions with me.
Which train should I take, where to get off, what to see once I arrive, etc.
I need to take a sleeper train from Bangkok to Vientiane in January.
I found some ticket options on 12Go Asia, but booking doesn’t seem possible at the moment. I’ve tried simulations for several dates, but no luck.
I’m wondering if it’s already fully booked, if they’ve stopped selling tickets… yet 12Go still features it every day 😕
Has anyone else run into this issue?
Can I find tickets on another site? (I tried Baolau, but no sleepers left for January 8th.)
Hi there,
I’m a bit late to be worrying about this, but hopefully someone can help me before I leave.
Tomorrow afternoon, I arrive at Lyon Part-Dieu on the TGV at 5:50 PM and take the TER to Mâcon at 6:16 PM. Is a 26-minute transfer doable? Are the TGV and TER on the same departure board? And are they on the same platforms too?
I’ve been to Lyon before but never had to make a connection after arriving.
Thanks
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region.
After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani?
Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Hi there,
Does anyone know if there’s a bus from Luang Namtha to Boten to catch the train coming from China to Vientiane? If so, what’s the name of the company? Also, how long does the bus take to cover that distance? What’s the condition of the road like?
Thanks for your help!
Tom
I just realized there’s only one payment method accepted for booking the Mombasa-Nairobi express train ticket online: M-Pesa, a mobile money transfer service used in Africa. Would it be impossible to book as a European?
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient).
But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this?
We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help,
and have a great Sunday!
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Hi everyone,
For traveling in Rajasthan by train and bus, could you give me some info: where to buy tickets, cost, purchase locations, websites, etc.?
Any tips you have would be super helpful.
Thanks