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Marien33 11 months ago · Jojoone1
Skyscrapers, Markets, Ice Cubes, Tourism, and Waterfalls... Thailand's Excesses


A somewhat lengthy title... I could have simply written: from Bangkok to Chiang Rai, via Chiang Mai, since that was my route. But when poets embellish our travel journals with their verbal flourishes, you’ve got to try not to be too ordinary.

Skyscrapers of excess? You’ll have gathered that from the photo illustrating this journal—though it might change as the trip goes on.

The excess of markets—not so much in their size, though... Chatuchak... But in their sheer number. Day markets, night markets, floating markets, fresh produce markets, fish markets, meat markets, spice markets, fabric markets... and even... amulet markets... For luck, good fortune, protection. Not to mention, sadly, the market for girls—and boys, incidentally. I’ve even heard they’re displayed in windows. I’ve heard about that one, like you have, but I didn’t set foot in it, so I can’t say anything about it. Some even claim there’s a black-market trade in children. Disgusting! It reminded me of the book *The Parcel* by Anosh Irani, which I recommended in another journal. The story is set in India, but I’ve been told it exists in Thailand too. So, the "famous Thai markets" we’re bombarded with in paper and online guides—sure, they amazed me in the first few days, and I don’t regret visiting them. But no matter how big they were, I quickly got my fill since you saw the same things at every stall...

I had a market overdose.

Excess of tourism? I should say *tourists*, since I saw them literally swarming in the streets and those famous markets. I’d forgotten about them. I’d lost the habit, living in an Indian city for so long...

Waterfalls are a bit like markets. At this time of year, they’re not particularly spectacular, but they’re everywhere. There are the ones everyone goes to see. For example, Erawan, which I decided to skip even though it was in my original itinerary—I guessed it’d be a nightmare with the selfie circus. On the other hand, you come across them all over the place, hidden in the mountains and forests, not listed in any guide. Not to mention the ones you can find in temples or even private homes... Yes, really! Thais love waterfalls, so they install them in their gardens—and I even saw one in the middle of the city, right on the street! Sometimes they’re tiny, but very photogenic.

But what do ice cubes have to do with this? Why the excess of ice cubes? Not only are they everywhere by the ton, but they put them in *everything* you drink. You’d think they’d even put them in soup! And it’s not just one or two ice cubes—no! They fill the container to the brim, whatever it is, then pour the liquid on top to fill the gaps. They’ll make you an excellent coffee right in front of you, piping hot, then—bam! An avalanche of ice cubes in the glass. Okay, I’m exaggerating a little. They *do* sometimes ask if you prefer your coffee—or tea—hot. Everything edible, and especially everything drinkable, is refrigerated: vegetables, fruit, hot drinks (I mean, drinks that are *usually* hot), but meat and fish are left out in the open. They just wave a little whisk to shoo away the flies when they get too eager. Mind you, I never put fruit, cheese, eggs, or water in the fridge in France, but I do in India. And I refrigerate meat and fish too... Though sometimes one of those little flies sneaks into the fridge...

You won’t find practical or technical details in this journal, like addresses or prices. Others do that better than me. You also won’t find the names of obscure or unknown places I discovered, or directions to get there.

I don’t really feel like recounting what I saw day by day, following my schedule and route. There might be flashbacks, projections into the future. It’ll depend on my memories, what I felt, what I hated, what comes back to me—and maybe your questions and our exchanges. And for those who’ve never read me before, you’ll have to get used to my parentheses and digressions, maybe on a completely different subject, as my thoughts wander. Stories within stories. There’ll also be long, endless sentences—but still punctuated, so you can follow along. Though I used to curse Proust and his sentences that started on one page and ended on the next, sometimes even further. I’d have to reread them twenty times to follow and understand what he was saying. I hated Proust. But hey, I was 20. Maybe I’d like him now?

See? The digressions are starting already. Forgive me.

You’ll find few photos here. First, the number is limited, and second, photos aren’t the main purpose of either VF or a travel journal. They’re too often used to mask the poverty of the text. And, sorry to say it, but so many of them are just plain ugly! If you really want to see photos, I’ll share some links where you can browse them at your leisure
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Ludomero 12 months ago · Songsam
Traveling to Southeast Asia in "peak season": what about prices and advance bookings?
Hello, I’ve been to Thailand three times a long time ago, and I’d love to visit neighboring countries too: Laos, Vietnam, Cambodia (while returning to Thailand 😛). The catch is that I’d like to go at the beginning of the year, but I’ve heard that’s peak tourist season for these countries. Ideally, I’d prefer to avoid peak season to save money (I’m not exactly rolling in it) and to be able to travel without reservations—without being forced to take a room in the local "palace" that still has availability because of its exorbitant prices.

From my distant memories of Thailand, I usually paid around the equivalent of 20 € per night (with a hearty breakfast) for a hotel room with a mini-bar.

What are the average prices for this type of accommodation in Thailand and its neighbors during "peak" season these days? Do prices fluctuate a lot depending on the season, or is tourist demand not that different from one season to another, keeping prices relatively stable? Are the chances of finding a "budget" room without a reservation still high, no matter the season, in this part of the world? 😇
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Falsealarm 12 months ago
First trip to Thailand – itinerary advice
Hi everyone,

I’m heading to Thailand for the first time at the end of January 2026 for two weeks. I’m traveling with someone who’s already been there, so we’re planning to hit some of the must-see spots but also visit places my partner wants to see—like Krabi, for example. We want a bit of everything: cities, food, culture, walks, but also beach time and relaxation. I’d love your thoughts on this itinerary idea—is it doable without feeling too rushed? We’ve got 16 nights there. There’s a part of the trip that’s still up in the air where I’m not sure what to do. Either we add a national park or a city like Erawan? The goal is to see beautiful landscapes, waterfalls (if there’s water at that time of year!), and wildlife... Or maybe we don’t add anything and just extend our time in the other stops! Depending on the final choice, the order might need adjusting 🙂

Day 1: Land in Bangkok from Paris at 2 PM—either we take a direct flight to Krabi to start our trip there (and end in Bangkok on the way back), or we stay in Bangkok for 3 days. Day 1/Day 2/Day 3/Day 4 (3.5 days, 4 nights): Bangkok (temples, floating market, possibly a day trip to Ayutthaya) Day 5/Day 6/Day 7/Day 8: Travel to Krabi, Railay, and day trips to the surrounding islands Day 9/Day 10/Day 11/Day 12: Travel to an island (probably Koh Tao), snorkeling, diving, trekking, Ang Thong excursion? Day 13/Day 14/Day 15: Leave the island for an undecided destination—a national park (Khao Sok? Khao Sam Roi Yot?)? Or Phang Nga Bay? Or Erawan? Day 16: Return to Bangkok Day 17: Departure (flight at 2 PM)

What do you think? Any advice or tips on the itinerary or the ideas for Days 13-15? (Which could be moved to another part of the trip depending on the route.) Just to note, we’re not big hikers or adventurers, but we do enjoy discovery, nature, and cultural visits like temples. Thanks in advance for your valuable tips 🙂

Florence
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4ecofuel 12 months ago
Is there an overnight train from Krabi/Trang to Bangkok?
Hello,

Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region. After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani? Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?

Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.

Thanks for your tips!

Fred
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Tfcboy31 12 months ago · Patrick91230
TDAC Problem
hi, and help! I need to complete my TDAC, but the site is stuck on page 2 under Accommodation Information: I can't fill in the "province" field—it's mandatory! I enter Bangkok, but when I scroll down to add the address... everything disappears.

What should I do? Thanks for your help! Elisabeth
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LBfamily 12 months ago
Transport to Baan Kang Wat Market
Hello!

A quick question about Chiang Mai. We’d like to visit the Baan Kang Wat creator market this year. For those who’ve been there before, what transportation did you use? I’m asking because we prefer to just be dropped off, not hire a "driver" for the whole day who waits for us and requires scheduling times, etc.

However, it’s about 20 minutes from the city center (historic square), and I know that in some areas outside Chiang Mai, it’s safer to plan your return trip because there are few taxis, tuk-tuks, or songthaews around, and Grab drivers won’t come if it’s too far. We had that issue at the Queen Sirikit Gardens—our driver warned us no one would come back for us, and sure enough, the place was deserted.

Is that the case there? I saw that it’s not too far from Wat Umong, and we went there by tuk-tuk without any trouble finding one a few hours later to head back, so I’m hopeful.

Thanks in advance for your help, and as always after our trips, I’ll be sure to share feedback on the questions we asked here during our planning!
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Tianchris 12 months ago · Mathews
Immigration check in Bangkok or Chiang Mai?
hi I’ve got a flight planned for mid-November from Chennai, India, to Chiang Rai with AirAsia via Bangkok, obviously. My question is: where do I go through immigration—Bangkok or Chiang Rai? Thanks in advance, Christian
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102529 12 months ago
Hotels in Koh Tao for reduced mobility
Since I have reduced mobility, which hotels would you recommend? All the ones I’ve seen have stairs and are on steep slopes ¾.. I’d love one by the beach and close to a diving center. Thanks in advance
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Falsealarm 12 months ago · Songsam
Waterfalls and hot springs in Thailand in February
Hello, For my partner’s birthday during our trip to Thailand, I’d love to take her on a "spa" day to beautiful waterfalls and/or hot springs (and maybe find a nice hotel nearby, plus a lovely night and a massage to complete the experience!). We’ll be there between January 29 and February 11, 2026, which is the dry season in many regions... Bummer if we arrive and only find a trickle of water for the surprise! We won’t be heading north—we’re doing Bangkok, then Krabi, and an island in the south. I’d spotted the hot springs near Krabi, like Namtok Ron Khlong Thom (and maybe the Emerald Pool), but what will the water levels be like there at that time of year? I’d also considered Erawan Falls, even if it means leaving Bangkok for a day/night, but same question about the water flow...

Has anyone here been to these places or have any feedback? Or another spot like this that fits within our planned route? Thanks in advance, and have a great day everyone!
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Gauvince last year
Thailand in March: What itinerary for the south?
Hi everyone,

So excited to be back on this forum of fellow travel enthusiasts to ask for advice about my upcoming two-week trip to Thailand in March 2026.

Given that it’ll be the start of the intense heat and burning season, I’m wondering about my itinerary, which would focus on the central/southern part of the country.

Ideally, I’d like a mix of relaxation in a nice setting, culture (temples or old palaces), and I’m keeping six days in Bangkok, which I love :)

I’m planning to get around by train, car (through an agency), or plane if it’s easier.

Option 1: HUA HIN – 3/4 days (day trips to PHETCHABURI + SAM ROI YOT + ARTISAN MARKETS) KANCHANABURI – 3/4 days NAKHON PATHOM – 1 day BANGKOK – 6 days

My doubts: -Will the sky be too hazy (from smoke) for good photos? -Will Kanchanaburi and its surroundings be less enchanting during this period (dry landscapes)?

Option 2: PHUKET (4 days): exploring the island + PHANG NGA Bay HUA HIN (3/4 days) BANGKOK (7 days)

My doubts: -How do I get from Phuket to Hua Hin? It seems like flying isn’t an option, and I’d have to take a long trip up the southern coast or return to Bangkok to catch the train. -Is Phuket even remotely pleasant during this ultra-touristy period? -Is Karon a good base for exploring Phuket?

Option 3: PHUKET KAO SOK SURAT THANI? BANGKOK

My doubts: -I’d like to add a destination with beautiful temples in this area, but maybe Surat Thani isn’t the best idea.

Option 4: SURAT THANI >> HUA HIN (6/7 days) BANGKOK

Doubts: -I’m worried this route might be too tiring if I have to move every two days.

I’m open to any tips—or even a completely different itinerary if you have other ideas.

Thanks so much / Khob Khun Krap :)
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Dayi last year · Djalma
Where to go without mass tourism and near the sea in Thailand?
I’d like to do a kind of personal retreat this winter and I’m looking for a destination near the sea (preferably an island) that’s quiet. Is that possible in Thailand, or should I consider another destination? Thanks for your thoughts. Dayi
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Estak13 last year · Jojoone1
Bangkok, Chiang Mai, Krabi Itinerary
Hi everyone! I’m reaching out because we’re planning a trip to Thailand next year (around March/April), and we’d like to visit Chiang Mai and then Krabi, plus a few islands near Krabi. We’ve been to Thailand before, 10 years ago, and this time, we’d just like to focus on 5 days in Chiang Mai and 10–12 days in the Krabi area. I’ll admit, I’m really struggling to pick an island near Krabi. We hated Phi Phi: dirty, noisy, and the food was gross… such a letdown! Which island would you recommend for snorkeling, nature walks, and beautiful beaches? Maybe we could also make a stop between Chiang Mai and Krabi—perhaps Sukhothai? Is it easy to travel between these three cities? Thanks so much for your help! 🙂
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Morlaix last year · Gaura
Traveling without reservations with a 10-year-old in Thailand
Hi there, it’s been a good 15 years since I last set foot in Thailand.

Back then, I spent 6 weeks there with my partner, traveling backpacker-style without ever booking anything in advance, and we always managed to find a guesthouse. Now we think our son is old enough to travel the same way.

Do you still find it just as easy to snag a guesthouse room everywhere?

What’s the average price range these days in the north and the south?

For our route, we’re thinking roughly BKK / Koh Tao / Koh Samui / Krabi, then the Chiang Mai area. Thanks in advance for your tips!
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Attila last year
From Bangkok to Krabi, Thailand by Car!
This first trip of 2025 will have the taste of Asia.

More precisely, Thailand!

It’s not my first time—I’ve often traveled across Southeast Asia between 2000 and 2015. (This travel journal, for example...)

But it’ll be my partner’s first steps in this part of the world.

The itinerary we’ve chosen will alternate between familiar sights for me and new discoveries for both of us.

I’ll get to see how the country has changed in 20 years—and what’s stayed the same!

We were torn between the north and the south of the kingdom. Fears of smoke from slash-and-burn farming and a desire to relax on the sand tipped the scales toward the south...

What if we rented a car?

I think driving in sprawling Bangkok would be a bit ambitious, so we’ll only book our vehicle from Hua Hin to return it in Surat Thani.

Other transportation will range from tuk-tuks to overnight trains and ride-hailing services.

And of course, the plane!

I’d love to travel from Auvergne to Bangkok by road, but 15 days wouldn’t be enough...

Plus, the current geopolitical situation isn’t exactly favorable...

So, once again, we’ll be stuck for hours in the less-than-comfortable economy class of Qatar Airways.

The arrival time was on schedule, entry formalities were quick, and all our luggage made it.

We left Lyon in wind and cold—now we’re breathing in the warm, humid air of กรุงเทพมหานคร.

To reach our hotel, we first took the metro, which dropped us off in the city center in about 30 minutes for the incredible price of 1.18 €.

A few taps on the GRAB app, and we booked a ride-hailing service for the last few kilometers.

We waited a while for our driver due to insane traffic in the area, but once in the 4x4, we were at our lodging in no time.

We chose this small hotel for its riverside location, tranquility, and price.

It’ll do the job perfectly—the only downside is the weak breakfast.

The room is inviting, and we collapse onto the bed for a well-deserved short nap.

Wake-up call in an hour for our first visits!

See you soon...

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LBfamily last year
Meals on the Bangkok-Chiang Mai overnight train?
Hi there,

I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.

We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)

That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.

In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.

I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...

Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?

Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
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Gigi29 last year · Jojoone1
Looking for new places to see in Thailand
Hi everyone, help! My wife and I love Thailand, but after a good dozen trips, we're out of ideas 🙂 We’ve pretty much done all the islands: Koh Ngai, Jam, Kradan, Lanta, Lipe, Muk, Pha-Ngan, Ngai, Samui, Tao, Phayam, Phi-Phi, Chang, Yao Noi, Yao Yai, Phuket, and now we’re looking for a quiet spot on the mainland. Last year, we spent 15 days on the east coast in Ban Kroot, north of Chumphon, and we’re looking for something similar. Thanks for any other suggestions!
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ZoLive2010 last year
Spelling of First Name for Visa Application
Hi there,

I’m filling out a visa application for Thailand on the official thaievisa site, and I’m unsure about my second first name on my passport, which I need to enter in the online form: Jean-François. The site doesn’t accept hyphens or "ç"

I assume the site will accept "Jean Francois" as my "middle name," but I’d like to be sure this won’t lead to my visa being rejected...

Thanks for your feedback! :) Olivier
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ZoLive2010 last year · Papoucris
Thailand E-Visa Application Formalities
Hi everyone!

I’m planning to go to Thailand for 90 days (departure on 20/06).

- I thought I’d read that the processing time for the E-Visa had been reduced to just a few days since June 2025 (so very recent). Can you confirm? However, on the embassy’s website and when I try calling them, they’re still quoting 3-4 weeks. Hasn’t this been updated yet? Because I’m starting to sweat here…🤪

- I was a bit hasty in declaring the funds to prove my solvency. Should I wait for their response rather than submitting a second visa application, which might conflict with the first one?

Thanks for your feedback! Have a great day
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Verneyfrank last year
Bangkok to Chiang Mai Train
Hi there,

We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.

Thanks
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ChristelleR last year · Ticapi
Various questions about Bangkok with kids
Good evening,

Our family trip (2 kids, boys aged 6 and 9) is coming up fast, and I have a few questions. I’ve seen that quite a few people on this forum are active about Thailand, so I hope you can help me out :-)

- I have a Free mobile plan with a good amount of data abroad (35GB). Do you know if the Bolt or Grab apps work well with a French SIM? I’ve read that the app might not work if the SIM isn’t Thai, but I’ve also seen French travelers using their SIMs in Thailand, so I’m not sure what to think.

- What tips do you have to avoid traveler’s diarrhea (especially for our 6- and 9-year-olds)? I’m already preparing them to wash their hands often and not put their hands in their mouths or brush their teeth with tap water (they’re still little and might not control the water well in their mouths). Are there certain dishes or food stands to avoid? Are ice cubes really off-limits too?

- We arrive in Bangkok at 9 AM, and we have a French-speaking guided tour scheduled for the next morning (all day). The itinerary isn’t finalized yet with the guide—I need to get back in touch soon. What do you recommend doing on that first day, which might be tiring after the long flight and jet lag? Our hotel has a nice pool, but I’d love for us to get out and explore a bit :-)

- Is the Grand Palace really best visited early in the morning to avoid crowds?

- I’d love to visit a night or floating market, but they’re all on weekends. Unfortunately, we’re in Bangkok from Wednesday to Saturday morning (then we take the train to Ayutthaya in the morning). Is there a market on Friday night? I saw Chatuchak, but Friday night doesn’t seem like the best time—is it still worth going?

I’ve looked for answers to these questions, but I’m either not finding a definitive answer or I’m overwhelmed by all the things to do/see in Bangkok. So, I’m hoping your advice or experiences can help me out!

Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! :-)
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Arsouille30 last year · GeorgesOZ
Phra Kreuang: Thai protective amulets
S🙂wasdee!

Kicking off the thread with an informative article about Phra Kreuang, protective amulets (according to local belief) that Thai people of all kinds wear around their necks:

https://www.objetsdevasion.com/guides/objet-bouddhiste/amulette-bouddha/les-amulettes-bouddhiques-thailandaises.html

You can find them all over the Kingdom: in temples, at markets, in specialty shops, and even in mail-order flyers at Seven/Eleven.

Also, heads up for those in Paris—from October 11th to 20th, there’s a collective exhibition featuring Thai artists: https://phenixwebtv.com/2019/07/23/facets-of-thailand-une-exposition-collective-de-cinq-artistes-de-la-scene-contemporaine-thailandaise/?fbclid=IwAR28PCY1t48M2DiwVlnc5uZvT20FnsxNLMppOb8d1pSfOjiw_sW_htV2CnI

@ ++, for the *sanouk* debrief from our last trip to the Land of the Free, as it’s so beautifully nicknamed.

Sânouk3😎
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LBfamily last year
Your recommendations for Bangkok lovers
Hello everyone! :)

Our next trip to Thailand is coming up, and we just can't wait! We talk, eat, drink, and dream Thailand 😏

Our itinerary is mostly set, and we’ve found quite a few new things to explore, but I’d still love to hear your recommendations for Bangkok. Just so you know: we love this city, and every time we visit, we spend several days there without ever feeling like we’ve seen it all. So this year, we’re staying for 8 days! Here’s what we have planned this year: * Exploring Nonthaburi * A day trip to Nakhon Pathom (to test out our basic Thai skills 😛) * Khlong Lat Mayom floating market (we went 10 years ago—it’s probably changed a lot!) * The Erawan Museum (we visited Muang Boran on our last trip) * Finally taking the time to check out Wat Phra Sri Maha Mariamman and Wat Yannawa (we’ve planned to go several times but never made it—are they worth a visit?)

This is what we’ve picked so far, but I’d love to hear about the favorite spots and recommendations from travelers who, like us, adore Bangkok.

Thanks in advance for your help!

Laetitia and Benjamin.
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DomBegga last year · FamilleUS
What to choose for a first summer trip to Asia: Indonesia or Thailand?
Hi there,

I’m planning my first trip to Asia next summer with my partner and our daughter, who’ll be 3 and a half at the time, for 4 weeks (maybe 5).

I’ve heard that the timing is better for visiting Indonesia, but I’m hesitant because Thailand seems more accessible, and I’m worried that traveling to Indonesia during high season might be less enjoyable and a lot more expensive due to the number of tourists. We love cultural sites as much as natural ones, and we’re big foodies. We’re not necessarily looking for luxury and tend to take our time, travel by public transport, and look for accommodations with a good value for money—though we do occasionally splurge on a high-end restaurant.

I’m also wondering when and where to buy flight tickets and how comfortable the journey will be (especially for our daughter) if we fly with Thai Airways or Garuda.

Thanks in advance for sharing your thoughts and tips!

Damien
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LBfamily last year
Where to find a shop selling minerals and crystals in Thailand (Bangkok/Chiang Mai)?
Good evening,

I’m throwing a message in a bottle out there, just in case...

I collect crystals and minerals (natural stones) and I’d love to know if anyone here could recommend a trustworthy shop in Bangkok or Chiang Mai. You never know—maybe there’s another collector or enthusiast on the forum! :)

Thanks in advance, and have a great evening, everyone.

Laëtitia.
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Lol64 last year · Muriel18
Lake Chiew Lan in Khao Sok National Park
Hi, I’m heading to Thailand (first time!) in a week. We planned to be in Khao Sok National Park on February 1st and 2nd. I got a message yesterday saying it wouldn’t be possible to do any activities on Lake Chiew Lan as planned because of “weather conditions.” Despite all my research, I can’t find any info that supports this. Does anyone have recent updates? Is it really impossible to visit the lake, and if so, are there any alternatives? They’re offering a walk to Bang Hua Rad waterfall instead. Any thoughts? We’re really disappointed—the lake looked amazing 😢
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LBfamily last year
Northern Thailand with a baby


Hi everyone,

In these dark times, and after two months of lockdown, I thought now would be a good moment to write up the travel journal of our last trip to Thailand, to (maybe) help some of you escape a little. The idea is also, and above all, to give back to this forum, and I hope my tips or ideas will help future travelers. Don’t hesitate to contact me via private message or in the comments if you have any questions.

Before I start this story, I must warmly thank the people who patiently informed, advised, and guided us. Jojoone, Jodelavega, Jungletrool, DearPatsy, Tarajellow, and the others—thank you so much. This trip wouldn’t have been as wonderful without your help.

We’re a couple in our thirties who love traveling (we did a round-the-world trip several years ago now), and we’re big fans of Thailand, where we’ve been multiple times. We’re used to backpacking and even have a bit of wanderlust! But this year, everything was different since we were traveling for the first time with our baby, who was just under 2 years old (22 months). This raised HUGE questions for us, as we usually travel pretty casually and intuitively. While I found some answers on this forum, there was still a lot of information I couldn’t find, so I apologize in advance to those who travel without young kids—I plan to address that with a dedicated section. Generally, I think preparation is the key to a successful trip with a little one. For us, lots of questions beforehand meant no stress during the trip—everything was simple, and there were no bad surprises.

For those in a hurry, here’s a summary: 3-week stay (09/30/19 to 10/18/2019) Flight tickets (2 adults, 1 baby without a seat): 1052 € Itinerary: Bangkok 5 days, Chiang Mai 5 days, Lampang 3 days, Kanchanaburi 3 days, Bangkok 2 days.

General info about traveling with babies:

Here are the topics that caused us the most concern, our choices, and our observations after the trip.

1- Choosing the itinerary / road safety

This was THE biggest concern for us. Living in France with a top-rated rear-facing car seat, we were terrified at the idea of putting our baby in a car, bus, or any vehicle without protection (not to mention Thailand’s terrible reputation for road safety). We ended up making a radical decision that removed all our stress and let us enjoy a fantastic trip: no road travel (though you’ll see later that we had to bend this rule once, and everything went fine). We decided to follow the railway route heading north (for safety reasons, we didn’t consider the south and its islands with a baby) and chose our stops based on that. The train is a super comfortable way to travel with a young child. Sure, it’s slow—we were warned—but the best advice I can give is to take your time with a little one. Thailand is hot, noisy, and crowded—everything is tiring. Taking it slow is the best way to enjoy your trip. And I think (this is just my opinion) trying to keep an adult’s pace would only lead to frustration and exhaustion for everyone. The only car trips we took were short transfers in the city, and for those, we brought a sling (like a pre-tied baby carrier) so the baby was strapped to one of us, and we were both buckled up with the seatbelt passing between the baby and the parent carrying them. In case of a crash, there was no risk of crushing the baby (though obviously, it wasn’t completely safe, but we figured at city speeds, it was manageable).

2- Gear / what to pack?

In everyday life, we already keep things simple, so for travel, it was obvious we wouldn’t overpack. Crib, stroller, car seat, etc.—we decided to bring almost nothing and didn’t regret it. In my opinion, a stroller isn’t useful in Thailand. The sidewalks are unusable, packed with people and stalls. In busy places like night markets, you’ll prefer having your child close to you, at adult height, rather than in the crowd. Of course, it depends on where you go, but generally, a stroller will be more of a hassle than a help. We opted for a small, non-bulky hiking backpack and a sling (which fit in the backpack’s pocket) made of thin fabric for car trips. In hindsight, I think this was the perfect choice.

For cribs, high chairs, etc., there’s no need to bring your own—every place finds solutions for babies, and you can even contact them beforehand to put your mind at ease. During our stay, we were offered a baby crib, a futon on the floor, a single bed (not suitable for a baby, though), and always a solution for seating at meals. Only one hotel in Chiang Mai refused to help and asked for an outrageous extra fee, but I think that’s unusual, and we generally have mixed memories of that place. We brought a small fabric seat that attaches to any chair—it takes up the space of a folded raincoat and was very useful (though you can manage just fine by having the baby eat on your lap).

For baby food, diapers, etc., we didn’t bring anything. Just enough to last two days while we got settled, and that was plenty—no need to overpack. You can easily find diapers at Tesco, Lotus, or even 7/11. For food, we’d gotten our daughter used to eating pieces a few months before the trip, and we ordered broths to “dilute” the dishes. She loved it, tried everything with pleasure, and never had any issues. That said, I don’t know about milk—my daughter doesn’t drink it.

Here’s our “packing list” for 3 weeks with a 22-month-old:



My partner: 1 travel backpack and a small empty (cabin-sized) rolling suitcase for shopping on the way back. For me: baby in a hiking backpack (with a sling and the small folded seat in the backpack’s pocket). It was simple for getting around, and I think if we’d packed more, we would’ve struggled without gaining any extra comfort.

3- Mosquitoes / Malaria / Dengue / Vaccines

As if on purpose, just months before our trip, a flood of articles on the forum and online warned us that Thailand was in the middle of a dengue epidemic, and locals advised us to be careful. Not exactly reassuring when traveling with a baby…🤪 After much hesitation, we decided to bring a small mosquito net (recommended by a mom on the forum—shoutout to Popinette) that opens like a pop-up tent (and folds just as easily). For how little space it took up, we didn’t regret it. It was attached to the back of the travel backpack and let us sleep soundly :p If it helps anyone, here’s the one we had: Deryan Peuter model.



We also brought a mosquito net for ourselves but didn’t end up using it—with precautions, we didn’t have any mosquitoes at night.

For protection, we chose Insect Ecran (tropical version, the red one) because it doesn’t contain DEET but uses Icaridin, which is less toxic for little ones. We also pre-treated our clothes with Insect Ecran textile spray. We also decided to dress our daughter in light, long-sleeved outfits (covering arms and legs), and she wasn’t any hotter but was protected. It was a great choice, and we ended up dressing like her. Contrary to what I’d read, I didn’t find the smell strong—I actually thought it was quite discreet. My daughter and my partner didn’t get a single bite. As for me, I still got bites on exposed areas (I’m *very* prone to mosquito bites), so I switched to a local product—less well-formulated but apparently more effective for me.

We had our daughter vaccinated against Hepatitis A. We got conflicting advice on this: the pediatrician said it was unnecessary if she didn’t eat from street stalls (where dishes are washed in questionable water), but my GP said the opposite. We decided to book an appointment at a travel vaccination center, and the doctor was clear—she needed the vaccine.

4- Book in advance?

Finally, a question that had never crossed our minds before: should we book in advance? Again, this is just my opinion, but I think yes. It makes things much easier. Since we wanted to minimize road travel, it was much simpler to find well-located accommodations that let us do everything on foot (and with a baby, reducing travel and lightening the schedule is really helpful). Booking ahead meant no bad surprises, no fully booked places, and no hassle walking around with luggage and a baby. We booked everything in advance via Booking and Agoda, and by comparing with on-site prices, we didn’t pay more (we were traveling in the low season).

Here’s our feedback and observations. If they can help other parents prepare for their trip, I’d be thrilled.

With all that said, time for vacation!
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Hi there, I’m looking for a good and affordable guide to visit the national park with my wife and two young adults. It’s pretty urgent since I’d like to do it this week, departing from Koh Phangan. Thanks for your tips and contacts!
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