Bangkok: bombe dans la station de métro Sala Daeng!
by Christmi
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Info de 21h30 sur canal 7 , avec images de 20h45
Une bombe a explosé dans le métro de Sala Daeng faisant une quinzaine de blessés , dont un
farang + 1 bombe devant une bque de Silom
Info de 22h30 = 1 mort
christmi
Tous les posts qui parlaient de la situation à BKK ont été supprimés, donc reprendre une nouvelle discussion qui durera combien de temps????????????????
Pas besoin de critiquer certains pays concernant la censure sur internet.
On en voit le résultat sur le forum, ce jeudi. fermez le banc!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMOLHdJ95f8&feature=player_embedded ???
... j' avoue que c' est très "déconcertant " 🙁
""Le voyage pour moi, ce n' est pas arriver, c' est partir. C' est l' imprévu de la prochaine escale, c' est le désir jamais comblé de connaître sans cesse autre chose, c' est demain, éternellement demain"" Roland Dorgelès.
A+++ Lisa
A+++ Lisa
ces manifs ça commence à sentir vraiment mauvais...
la presse européenne devient vraiment pessimiste🏴☠️.......
il est temps que le roi intervienne avant que cela tourne au carnage
la presse européenne devient vraiment pessimiste🏴☠️.......
il est temps que le roi intervienne avant que cela tourne au carnage
c dommage qu'ils censurent tout de même certaines infos
là ça craint tout de même ..... http://fr.news.yahoo.com/82/20100422/tot-thalande-la-tension-monte-encore-ent-723c20e.html
ce soir à bangkok..... c'est pas une petite chose
il vaut mieux partir dans les provinces rapidement...
en espérant que par la suite ça ne soit pas aussi dangeureux
là ça craint tout de même ..... http://fr.news.yahoo.com/82/20100422/tot-thalande-la-tension-monte-encore-ent-723c20e.html
ce soir à bangkok..... c'est pas une petite chose
il vaut mieux partir dans les provinces rapidement...
en espérant que par la suite ça ne soit pas aussi dangeureux
Tourist Hurt in Silom ExplosionDaily Photos from Thailand
Thursday 22nd April, 2010 at 21:39:17| Words: 50 words | Category: News Photos
Thai army soldiers evecuate an injured foreigner after a blast was heard on Silom road in the financial district of central Bangkok on April 22, 2010. Two blasts were heard in Bangkok's business district Thursday and one injured foreigner was taken away by ambulance, amid a standoff between rival protesters. (Getty Images)

Thai army soldiers evecuate an injured foreigner after a blast was heard on Silom road in the financial district of central Bangkok on April 22, 2010. Two blasts were heard in Bangkok's business district Thursday and one injured foreigner was taken away by ambulance, amid a standoff between rival protesters. (Getty Images)
Concernant la situation à Bangkok, pour le moment c'est d'abord le quartier Silom
qu'il faut à tout prix éviter. Ce soir, ce quartier était véritablement en guerre.
Cependant, ne pas céder à la panique non plus. A l'échelle de Bangkok, la situation
insurrectionnelle que connaît Bangkok reste concentrée à ce quartier en ce moment.
On peut tout à fait se promener tout à fait normalement dans la plupart des autres quartiers
touristiques.
A 0h30 locale 3 morts et une soixantaine de blesses annonces a la TV.Reunion d'urgence du 1er minitre.
... Thanks Sawasdee
""Le voyage pour moi, ce n' est pas arriver, c' est partir. C' est l' imprévu de la prochaine escale, c' est le désir jamais comblé de connaître sans cesse autre chose, c' est demain, éternellement demain"" Roland Dorgelès.
A+++ Lisa
A+++ Lisa
c'est triste, vraiment triste de voir autant de haines.
ça rappelle aussi l'attentat dans le métro de Moscou.🙁
Quand l'eau baisse les fourmis mangent les poissons; quand l'eau monte les poissons mangent les fourmis.
Il n'y a que le changement qui ne change pas.
1. il s'agit d'une grenade lancée par "un militaire isolé", cela donne un prétexte à l'armée pour nettoyer la manifestation.
2. Les Rouges veulent rentrer chez eux dans un cercueil, ils provoquent les militaires en leur apportant sur un plateau le feu vert pour la répression.
La vérité doit être entre les 2.
2. Les Rouges veulent rentrer chez eux dans un cercueil, ils provoquent les militaires en leur apportant sur un plateau le feu vert pour la répression.
La vérité doit être entre les 2.
1. il s'agit d'une grenade lancée par "un militaire isolé", cela donne un prétexte à l'armée pour nettoyer la manifestation.
houla... était sur place? de ou tu tiens cette super info? des sources? déjà que c'est pas une mais plusieur grenade... fait attention à ce que tu écris quand même.
houla... était sur place? de ou tu tiens cette super info? des sources? déjà que c'est pas une mais plusieur grenade... fait attention à ce que tu écris quand même.
+1,
à moins d'avoir été sur ce pont (d'où ont été lancées les grenades), c'est difficile d'être aussi catégorique.
Quand l'eau baisse les fourmis mangent les poissons; quand l'eau monte les poissons mangent les fourmis.
Il n'y a que le changement qui ne change pas.
+1,
à moins d'avoir été sur ce pont (d'où ont été lancées les grenades), c'est difficile d'être aussi catégorique.
et encore une petite chose... l'armée à le droit d'user de son pouvoir, je rapelle que le pays est en "state of emergency" L'état d'urgence interdit tout rassemblement de plus de cinq personnes et permet notamment aux forces de l'ordre de procéder à des arrestations sans mandat de la justice.
ce qui veut dire qu'ils sont DROIT DANS LEUR BOTTES.
et encore une petite chose... l'armée à le droit d'user de son pouvoir, je rapelle que le pays est en "state of emergency" L'état d'urgence interdit tout rassemblement de plus de cinq personnes et permet notamment aux forces de l'ordre de procéder à des arrestations sans mandat de la justice.
ce qui veut dire qu'ils sont DROIT DANS LEUR BOTTES.
1. il s'agit d'une grenade lancée par "un militaire isolé",
cela donne un prétexte à l'armée pour nettoyer la manifestation.
houla... était sur place? de ou tu tiens cette super info? des sources? déjà que c'est pas une mais plusieur grenade... fait attention à ce que tu écris quand même.
Eh OUI, dans certain pays, une heure après avoir écrit çà on aurait la Police anti-terroriste qui débarquerait ...
Heureusement, il ne s'agit que d'un brave Dupont depuis la "douce France" et qui a des sympathies "à distance" ...
🙂
PS:Pour rassurer Mr Lajoie, l'Armée ne bouge pas, il n'y a pas eu assez de morts et en plus c'était des falangs ...
houla... était sur place? de ou tu tiens cette super info? des sources? déjà que c'est pas une mais plusieur grenade... fait attention à ce que tu écris quand même.
Eh OUI, dans certain pays, une heure après avoir écrit çà on aurait la Police anti-terroriste qui débarquerait ...
Heureusement, il ne s'agit que d'un brave Dupont depuis la "douce France" et qui a des sympathies "à distance" ...
🙂
PS:Pour rassurer Mr Lajoie, l'Armée ne bouge pas, il n'y a pas eu assez de morts et en plus c'était des falangs ...
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
1. il s'agit d'une grenade lancée par "un militaire isolé", cela donne un prétexte à l'armée pour nettoyer la manifestation.
2. Les Rouges veulent rentrer chez eux dans un cercueil, ils provoquent les militaires en leur apportant sur un plateau le feu vert pour la répression.
La vérité doit être entre les 2.

2. Les Rouges veulent rentrer chez eux dans un cercueil, ils provoquent les militaires en leur apportant sur un plateau le feu vert pour la répression.
La vérité doit être entre les 2.

"Quand l'injustice devient loi, la rébellion devient devoir. " Thomas Jefferson
« Le doute est l’apanage des gens intelligents, les cons n’ont que des certitudes »
(Alain Leblay)
Eh OUI, dans certain pays, une heure après avoir écrit çà on aurait la Police anti-terroriste
qui débarquerait ...
Il ne fallait pas regarder "Minority Report", ca vous fait faire des cauchemars... L'idee que des elements pro-gouvernementaux ait pu faire ca pour sceller le sort du ralliement rouge ne semble pas completement stupide. On en sait rien. Vous meme avez ecrit bien pire dans le genre.
Je suis arrivé quelques minutes après que les grenades aient été lancées
discuté avec des thais (sans couleurs ou anti-red-shirts)
qui étaient sur place au moment des explosions, et qui ont pris des photos des blessés.
Personne n'a été en mesure d'affirmer quoi ce soit concernant les auteurs de ces attentats.
Des suspects ont été arrêtés peu après les explosions
Des suspects ont été arrêtés peu après les explosions
6 arrêtés et 5 relachés.
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/2010/04/23/politics/TERROR-STRIKE-30127770.html

6 arrêtés et 5 relachés.
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/2010/04/23/politics/TERROR-STRIKE-30127770.html

"Quand l'injustice devient loi, la rébellion devient devoir. " Thomas Jefferson
« Le doute est l’apanage des gens intelligents, les cons n’ont que des certitudes »
(Alain Leblay)
il est evident que la situation est montee d un cran cette nuit, dans le sens ou les explosions precedentes semblaient viser des >.
Cette nuit, on a cherche a tuer parmi la population ( 4 morts et 75 blesses), en pleine station du BTS et a une heure de forte frequentation.
Certes, Sala Daeng est en plein dans le perimetre a eviter et deja longuement indique precedemment, mais il faut bien souvent passer par la pour se rendre d un point A a un point B du BTS...
Personnellement je suis a BKK depuis 15j, les differents quartiers que j ai visites ne sont pas du tout affectes par les evenements. Il faut bien vivre...ayant d ailleurs vecu la vague des attentats parisiens.
Je conseillerais aux voyageurs d eviter quand meme au maximum la capitale en ce moment, en particulier les transports en commun, les lieux publics, les rassemblements de foule... Bref, il va devenir complique de visiter BKK sans arriere pensee...voire de reporter son sejour dans la capitale si possible, la Thailande a bien des spots touristiques tranquilles...
Tous les attentats exceptionnels (Paris, Madrid, Londres...) demontrent a quel point les gouvernements de tous bords sont demunis par rapport au terrorisme d elements totalement incontrolables. Le seul moyen d y mettre fin est le travail en amont de renseignement et d infiltration, et je doute que les autorites thais trouvent la parade, se trompant et de cible et de methode depuis le depart. Pour le moment, il est quand meme a noter que ce sont des grenades qui ont ete lancees, pas des dispositifs a retardement ou des attentats-suicides, a mon sens ca limite un peu les risques de voir des explosions ailleurs dans d autres quartiers, et encore...
Certes, Sala Daeng est en plein dans le perimetre a eviter et deja longuement indique precedemment, mais il faut bien souvent passer par la pour se rendre d un point A a un point B du BTS...
Personnellement je suis a BKK depuis 15j, les differents quartiers que j ai visites ne sont pas du tout affectes par les evenements. Il faut bien vivre...ayant d ailleurs vecu la vague des attentats parisiens.
Je conseillerais aux voyageurs d eviter quand meme au maximum la capitale en ce moment, en particulier les transports en commun, les lieux publics, les rassemblements de foule... Bref, il va devenir complique de visiter BKK sans arriere pensee...voire de reporter son sejour dans la capitale si possible, la Thailande a bien des spots touristiques tranquilles...
Tous les attentats exceptionnels (Paris, Madrid, Londres...) demontrent a quel point les gouvernements de tous bords sont demunis par rapport au terrorisme d elements totalement incontrolables. Le seul moyen d y mettre fin est le travail en amont de renseignement et d infiltration, et je doute que les autorites thais trouvent la parade, se trompant et de cible et de methode depuis le depart. Pour le moment, il est quand meme a noter que ce sont des grenades qui ont ete lancees, pas des dispositifs a retardement ou des attentats-suicides, a mon sens ca limite un peu les risques de voir des explosions ailleurs dans d autres quartiers, et encore...
Sous le vacarme, la vie.
L'idee que des elements pro-gouvernementaux ait pu faire ca pour sceller
le sort du ralliement rouge ne semble pas completement stupide.
On en sait rien. Vous meme avez ecrit bien pire dans le genre.
Ah, ben alors je vais vous surprendre, j'ai la photo du coupable (ou de son chef) avec son "Mentor" (à sa gauche, de l'autre côté, c'est le pacifiste no. 1 du Cambodge) :

🙂
NB:En tous cas, c'est pô les martiens (qui sont rouges et pas verts comme ont croît)
Ah, ben alors je vais vous surprendre, j'ai la photo du coupable (ou de son chef) avec son "Mentor" (à sa gauche, de l'autre côté, c'est le pacifiste no. 1 du Cambodge) :

🙂
NB:En tous cas, c'est pô les martiens (qui sont rouges et pas verts comme ont croît)
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Alors quand il reviendra< tu foutras le camp >puisque tu prends parti, on se demande pourquoi et en quoi ca te regarde comme etranger d'ailleurs.
Cette nuit, on a cherche a tuer parmi la population ( 4 morts et 75 blesses),
- NON TOUJOURS 3 depuis l'annonce de 0h30
- NON TOUJOURS 3 depuis l'annonce de 0h30
Alors quand il reviendra< tu foutras le camp >puisque tu prends parti, on se demande pourquoi et en quoi ca te regarde comme etranger d'ailleurs.
+1😉 Il est saoulant le Mengwan à la fin....Il a évidemment droit à son opinion comme tout le monde mais de là à nous l'asséner régulièrement même dans des posts se voulant uniquement informatif à la base...
+1😉 Il est saoulant le Mengwan à la fin....Il a évidemment droit à son opinion comme tout le monde mais de là à nous l'asséner régulièrement même dans des posts se voulant uniquement informatif à la base...
profitons de cette vie si courte!!! Ao sanuk mak mak touk touk wan. (I wanna enjoy life everyday)
Alors quand il reviendra< tu foutras le camp >puisque tu prends parti, on se demande pourquoi et en quoi ca te regarde comme etranger d'ailleurs.
+1😉 Il est saoulant le Mengwan à la fin....Il a évidemment droit à son opinion comme tout le monde mais de là à nous l'asséner régulièrement même dans des posts se voulant uniquement informatif à la base...
- Les etrangers qui se thaicisent a outrance me font vraiment marrer, bientot ils vont revendiquer le droit de voter pour les chefs de districts locaux dont on se tape en coeur le coquillard. Les thais sont chez eux et nous sommes toleres, restons le et laissons leur leurs problemes et leurs magouilles politiques. Occupons nous du pourquoi nous sommes ici c'est deja bien.Ce qui m'empeche pas d'informer d'evenements MAIS SANS PARTI PRIS, les uns ou les autres se foutent pas mal de ce qu'en pensent les farangs.
+1😉 Il est saoulant le Mengwan à la fin....Il a évidemment droit à son opinion comme tout le monde mais de là à nous l'asséner régulièrement même dans des posts se voulant uniquement informatif à la base...
- Les etrangers qui se thaicisent a outrance me font vraiment marrer, bientot ils vont revendiquer le droit de voter pour les chefs de districts locaux dont on se tape en coeur le coquillard. Les thais sont chez eux et nous sommes toleres, restons le et laissons leur leurs problemes et leurs magouilles politiques. Occupons nous du pourquoi nous sommes ici c'est deja bien.Ce qui m'empeche pas d'informer d'evenements MAIS SANS PARTI PRIS, les uns ou les autres se foutent pas mal de ce qu'en pensent les farangs.
Alors quand il reviendra< tu foutras le camp >puisque tu prends parti, on se demande pourquoi et en quoi ca te regarde comme etranger d'ailleurs.
+1😉 Il est saoulant le Mengwan à la fin....Il a évidemment droit à son opinion comme tout le monde mais de là à nous l'asséner régulièrement même dans des posts se voulant uniquement informatif à la base...
+1 ces propos sont intolérables
+1😉 Il est saoulant le Mengwan à la fin....Il a évidemment droit à son opinion comme tout le monde mais de là à nous l'asséner régulièrement même dans des posts se voulant uniquement informatif à la base...
+1 ces propos sont intolérables
Que nenni! Voila ci-dessous le responsable des problemes en Thailande en ce moment :
"Selon un rapport de la Bank of Thailand, les 20 pour cent de la population au haut de l’échelle contrôlent 69 pour cent de la richesse nationale contre tout juste 1 pour cent pour les 20 pour cent au bas de l’échelle. Le revenu moyen des 20 pour cent au bas de l’échelle est d’à peine 1.443 baht ou 45 dollars américains par mois – le seuil officiel de pauvreté."
"Selon un rapport de la Bank of Thailand, les 20 pour cent de la population au haut de l’échelle contrôlent 69 pour cent de la richesse nationale contre tout juste 1 pour cent pour les 20 pour cent au bas de l’échelle. Le revenu moyen des 20 pour cent au bas de l’échelle est d’à peine 1.443 baht ou 45 dollars américains par mois – le seuil officiel de pauvreté."
Alors quand il reviendra< tu foutras le camp >puisque tu prends parti, on se demande pourquoi et en quoi ca te regarde comme etranger d'ailleurs.
+1😉 Il est saoulant le Mengwan à la fin....Il a évidemment droit à son opinion comme tout le monde mais de là à nous l'asséner régulièrement même dans des posts se voulant uniquement informatif à la base...
+1 ces propos sont intolérables
+1, il ne fait qu'envenimer les choses.
+1😉 Il est saoulant le Mengwan à la fin....Il a évidemment droit à son opinion comme tout le monde mais de là à nous l'asséner régulièrement même dans des posts se voulant uniquement informatif à la base...
+1 ces propos sont intolérables
+1, il ne fait qu'envenimer les choses.
Que nenni! Voila ci-dessous le responsable des problemes en Thailande en ce moment :
"Selon un rapport de la Bank of Thailand, les 20 pour cent de la population au haut de l’échelle contrôlent 69 pour cent de la richesse nationale contre tout juste 1 pour cent pour les 20 pour cent au bas de l’échelle. Le revenu moyen des 20 pour cent au bas de l’échelle est d’à peine 1.443 baht ou 45 dollars américains par mois – le seuil officiel de pauvreté."
- Bien vu mais c'est le probleme du capitalisme mondial, la France aussi a < ses familles> qui detiennent une majorite de l'industrie etc....
"Selon un rapport de la Bank of Thailand, les 20 pour cent de la population au haut de l’échelle contrôlent 69 pour cent de la richesse nationale contre tout juste 1 pour cent pour les 20 pour cent au bas de l’échelle. Le revenu moyen des 20 pour cent au bas de l’échelle est d’à peine 1.443 baht ou 45 dollars américains par mois – le seuil officiel de pauvreté."
- Bien vu mais c'est le probleme du capitalisme mondial, la France aussi a < ses familles> qui detiennent une majorite de l'industrie etc....
Bonjour,
Vous qui êtes bloqués à BKK voici une info qui devrait vous intéresser, à moins que cette info soit le début d'une guéguerre pour 2012, Borlo d'abord et Kouchkouch qui s'en mêle:
http://lci.tf1.fr/economie/consommation/2010-04/un-million-d-euros-pour-les-francais-bloques-a-l-etranger-5828402.html
Titre:
Un million d'euros pour les Français bloqués à l'étranger Par I.H d'après agence, le 23 avril 2010 à 07h49, mis à jour le 23 avril 2010 à 08:36 Dossier : Un nuage de cendres sur l'Europe Il reste toujours 40.000 Français environ, naufragés du volcan, bloqués dans les aéroports du monde entier. Le ministre des Affaires étrangère a annoncé qu'une aide financière leur sera accordée pour faire face aux frais supplémentaires.
Titre:
Un million d'euros pour les Français bloqués à l'étranger Par I.H d'après agence, le 23 avril 2010 à 07h49, mis à jour le 23 avril 2010 à 08:36 Dossier : Un nuage de cendres sur l'Europe Il reste toujours 40.000 Français environ, naufragés du volcan, bloqués dans les aéroports du monde entier. Le ministre des Affaires étrangère a annoncé qu'une aide financière leur sera accordée pour faire face aux frais supplémentaires.
"Quand l'injustice devient loi, la rébellion devient devoir. " Thomas Jefferson
« Le doute est l’apanage des gens intelligents, les cons n’ont que des certitudes »
(Alain Leblay)
Un million d'euros pour 40000 personnes soit 25 euros chacun, ça si ce n'est pas du foutage de gueule en règle!!!
Pour en revenir au sujet du post, les hôpitaux de Bangkok et le Ministère de la Santé confirment un décès (une jeune femme de 26 ans).
Il est difficile de savoir qui a lancé les grenades et après tout on s'en moque, ça monre simplement qu'il est urgent de mettre fin à cette mascarade. Les rouges, en tout cas leurs leaders (qui au passage eux ne risquent rien puisque se tiennent éloignés de toute zone de combat potentiel), veulent un bain de sang et malheureusement c'est la seule solution pour stopper les évènements. Il est grand temps que les forces de l'ordre prennent leur responsabilité et nettoient la ville avant que ça tourne définitivement à la guerilla urbaine entre les rouges et les habitants en ayant marre de voir leur ville prise en otage. Il ne reste que très peu de chemises rouges, ce sont bien évidemment les plus têtes brûlées qui de toute façon n'accepteront jamais aucune négociation. Ils sont là pour se battre et rien d'autre.
Il faut maintenant une intervention rapide afin que l'image du pays déjà bien ternie par les médias internationaux ne patisse pas plus de la situation.
Pour en revenir au sujet du post, les hôpitaux de Bangkok et le Ministère de la Santé confirment un décès (une jeune femme de 26 ans).
Il est difficile de savoir qui a lancé les grenades et après tout on s'en moque, ça monre simplement qu'il est urgent de mettre fin à cette mascarade. Les rouges, en tout cas leurs leaders (qui au passage eux ne risquent rien puisque se tiennent éloignés de toute zone de combat potentiel), veulent un bain de sang et malheureusement c'est la seule solution pour stopper les évènements. Il est grand temps que les forces de l'ordre prennent leur responsabilité et nettoient la ville avant que ça tourne définitivement à la guerilla urbaine entre les rouges et les habitants en ayant marre de voir leur ville prise en otage. Il ne reste que très peu de chemises rouges, ce sont bien évidemment les plus têtes brûlées qui de toute façon n'accepteront jamais aucune négociation. Ils sont là pour se battre et rien d'autre.
Il faut maintenant une intervention rapide afin que l'image du pays déjà bien ternie par les médias internationaux ne patisse pas plus de la situation.
Il ne reste que très peu de chemises rouges, ce sont bien évidemment les plus têtes brûlées qui de toute façon n'accepteront jamais aucune négociation. Ils sont là pour se battre et rien d'autre.
Peut être c'est ce que fait l'armée attendre qui y a moins de rouges avant de donner l'assaut .
Peut être c'est ce que fait l'armée attendre qui y a moins de rouges avant de donner l'assaut .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Il faut maintenant une intervention rapide afin que l'image du pays déjà bien ternie par les médias internationaux ne patisse pas plus de la situation.
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Tu sais ce que c'est une intervention a la thai, c'est comme en 1992ou on mitraille les opposants, c'est les manifestants embarques dans des camions militaires et toujours declares disparus ( une cinquantaine) parce que liquides et les corps introuvables.
Tu sais ce que c'est une intervention a la thai, c'est comme en 1992ou on mitraille les opposants, c'est les manifestants embarques dans des camions militaires et toujours declares disparus ( une cinquantaine) parce que liquides et les corps introuvables.
Je vois que tu es toujours à BKK. Tu as accepté la proposition de la Thai pour le 5 mai ? En tous cas, je suis toujours avec intérêt tes comptes-rendus car j'ai maintenu mon voyage. Cela va être dur de trouver un endroit calme entre arrivée d'avion et départ par train... Merci de nous informer si utilement et avec objectivité. Prends soin de toi!
Tu sais ce que c'est une intervention a la thai, c'est comme en 1992ou on mitraille les opposants, c'est les manifestants embarques dans des camions militaires et toujours declares disparus ( une cinquantaine) parce que liquides et les corps introuvables.
Si c'est la seule solution... L'attentisme est de toute façon encore pire à mes yeux.A les écouter, j'ai vraiment l'impression que les rouges sont là pour se faire tuer comme des martyrs d'une cause qui leur échappe totalement.
Si c'est la seule solution... L'attentisme est de toute façon encore pire à mes yeux.A les écouter, j'ai vraiment l'impression que les rouges sont là pour se faire tuer comme des martyrs d'une cause qui leur échappe totalement.
La suite nous est inconnue, on peut se poser des questions.S'il y a liquidation a la thai du probleme est-ce que ca ne va pas enflammer les campagnes rouges ? et est-ce que ce n'est pas precisement la strategie recherchee ?
Et-ce que ce sera pas le debut d'une longue periode de troubles armes ensuite ?
C'est bien sûr difficile de prévoir mais je ne suis tout de même pas dupe. Certes les rouges peuvent être nombreux mais je ne croient pas une seule seconde ceux des campagnes prêts à mourir pour "leurs" idées.
J'ESPERE QUE TU AS RAISON, tout dependra de l'attitude des forces armees des provinces, si une seule bascule ca peut enclencher l'effet domino.
N'oublions pas que les militaires de base sont issus de la meme classe paysanne que les rouges.
Tiens j'en connais un qui part pour 2 ans 1/2 paye 8500 bahts par mois, il a tire au sort la boule rouge a l'amphur de son district.S'il avait tire la noire il etait exempte.
Apres ceux qui ont tire la boule rouge tirent encore au sort leur affectation.
Encore comme la conscription sous Napoleon ici.
Et oui, une preuve de plus que ce pays qui nous est si cher a malheureusement sur bien des points oublié d'évoluer. Et je ne crois pas qu'un changement se profile à l'horizon de sitôt.
Peut être c'est ce que fait l'armée attendre qui y a moins de rouges avant de donner l'assaut .
Si l'Armée voulait vraiment qu'il y ait moins "de monde", ils auraient offert 1.000 bahts à tout manifestant qui "rentre chez lui" ... (resteraient plus retranchés que "les durs")
La "troisième force" bientôt dévoilée : http://thainews.prd.go.th/en/news.php?id=255304230018
🙂
Si l'Armée voulait vraiment qu'il y ait moins "de monde", ils auraient offert 1.000 bahts à tout manifestant qui "rentre chez lui" ... (resteraient plus retranchés que "les durs")
La "troisième force" bientôt dévoilée : http://thainews.prd.go.th/en/news.php?id=255304230018
🙂
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Bonjour à tous...........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQMoM6tciZk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZptxy-AuQU http://video.au.msn.com/...ictim-speaks/xkodvzi http://video.au.msn.com/...nade-attacks/xzh4wa3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACPc3CmrMjI
http://www.youtube.com/...ture=player_embedded (touristes apprentis reporters de guerre)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZptxy-AuQU http://video.au.msn.com/...ictim-speaks/xkodvzi http://video.au.msn.com/...nade-attacks/xzh4wa3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACPc3CmrMjI
http://www.youtube.com/...ture=player_embedded (touristes apprentis reporters de guerre)
Bonjour à tous...........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQMoM6tciZk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZptxy-AuQU
cela apporte quoi de voir ce genre de videos ? un plaisir personnel ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZptxy-AuQU
cela apporte quoi de voir ce genre de videos ? un plaisir personnel ?
N'oublions pas que les militaires de base sont issus de la meme classe paysanne que les rouges.
Completement faux ! Aucun ( ou presque) " tee shirt rouge" manifestant a BKK est issu de la classe paysane, bien au contraire ! Ceux ci sont bien tranquillement restes chez eux comme la classe aussi pauvre du sud..Ils sont plutot de la classe dirigente opposee aisee ou tres aisee ou has been..Assez nombreux mais faible en % en I-ssan , mis a part quelques jeunes exites renumeres et animes aux cahetons ou d'alcool.
Les manifestants en question sont loin d'etre pauvres, bien au contraire. La grande majorite n'ont pas vraiment besoin de travailler, les premiers preferant rester aupres de leur famille en toute securite ou a regler des devoirs quotidiens bien plus importants, plutot que de d'etre dans un contexte qui est loin d'etre le leur et qui ne leur rapportera rien sinon que de gros problemes ..Les vrais "pauvres" ont maintenant plutot peur de la couleur rouge .. Aux anciens ca leur rappelle de mauvais souvenirs..🏴☠️..Les plus temeraires dans le besoin, manipules ils y a quelques semaines par quelques dizaines de baht par jour, sont maintenant a la maison ..Ils commencent maintenant a ouvrir les yeux se posant la question pourquoi et la faute a qui ils sont si endettes et ont perdus leur terres..
😐
Notre ami "Mengwan" est donc dans le "vrai" dans la plupart de ses analyses et de ses interventions !
+1 pour lui 😐
Completement faux ! Aucun ( ou presque) " tee shirt rouge" manifestant a BKK est issu de la classe paysane, bien au contraire ! Ceux ci sont bien tranquillement restes chez eux comme la classe aussi pauvre du sud..Ils sont plutot de la classe dirigente opposee aisee ou tres aisee ou has been..Assez nombreux mais faible en % en I-ssan , mis a part quelques jeunes exites renumeres et animes aux cahetons ou d'alcool.
Les manifestants en question sont loin d'etre pauvres, bien au contraire. La grande majorite n'ont pas vraiment besoin de travailler, les premiers preferant rester aupres de leur famille en toute securite ou a regler des devoirs quotidiens bien plus importants, plutot que de d'etre dans un contexte qui est loin d'etre le leur et qui ne leur rapportera rien sinon que de gros problemes ..Les vrais "pauvres" ont maintenant plutot peur de la couleur rouge .. Aux anciens ca leur rappelle de mauvais souvenirs..🏴☠️..Les plus temeraires dans le besoin, manipules ils y a quelques semaines par quelques dizaines de baht par jour, sont maintenant a la maison ..Ils commencent maintenant a ouvrir les yeux se posant la question pourquoi et la faute a qui ils sont si endettes et ont perdus leur terres..
😐
Notre ami "Mengwan" est donc dans le "vrai" dans la plupart de ses analyses et de ses interventions !
+1 pour lui 😐
Sur l'arbre qui donne des pommes il n'y a pas de citrons...
N'oublions pas que les militaires de base sont issus de la meme classe paysanne que les rouges.
Completement faux ! Aucun ( ou presque) " tee shirt rouge" manifestant a BKK est issu de la classe paysane, bien au contraire ! Ceux ci sont bien tranquillement restes chez eux comme la classe aussi pauvre du sud..Ils sont plutot de la classe dirigente opposee aisee ou tres aisee ou has been..Assez nombreux mais faible en % en I-ssan , mis a part quelques jeunes exites renumeres et animes aux cahetons ou d'alcool.
Les manifestants en question sont loin d'etre pauvres, bien au contraire. La grande majorite n'ont pas vraiment besoin de travailler, les premiers preferant rester aupres de leur famille en toute securite ou a regler des devoirs quotidiens bien plus importants, plutot que de d'etre dans un contexte qui est loin d'etre le leur et qui ne leur rapportera rien sinon que de gros problemes ..Les vrais "pauvres" ont maintenant plutot peur de la couleur rouge .. Aux anciens ca leur rappelle de mauvais souvenirs..🏴☠️..Les plus temeraires dans le besoin, manipules ils y a quelques semaines par quelques dizaines de baht par jour, sont maintenant a la maison ..Ils commencent maintenant a ouvrir les yeux se posant la question pourquoi et la faute a qui ils sont si endettes et ont perdus leur terres..
😐
Notre ami "Mengwan" est donc dans le "vrai" dans la plupart de ses analyses et de ses interventions !
+1 pour lui 😐
+1 Voila qui me réconcilie avec ce forum!
Completement faux ! Aucun ( ou presque) " tee shirt rouge" manifestant a BKK est issu de la classe paysane, bien au contraire ! Ceux ci sont bien tranquillement restes chez eux comme la classe aussi pauvre du sud..Ils sont plutot de la classe dirigente opposee aisee ou tres aisee ou has been..Assez nombreux mais faible en % en I-ssan , mis a part quelques jeunes exites renumeres et animes aux cahetons ou d'alcool.
Les manifestants en question sont loin d'etre pauvres, bien au contraire. La grande majorite n'ont pas vraiment besoin de travailler, les premiers preferant rester aupres de leur famille en toute securite ou a regler des devoirs quotidiens bien plus importants, plutot que de d'etre dans un contexte qui est loin d'etre le leur et qui ne leur rapportera rien sinon que de gros problemes ..Les vrais "pauvres" ont maintenant plutot peur de la couleur rouge .. Aux anciens ca leur rappelle de mauvais souvenirs..🏴☠️..Les plus temeraires dans le besoin, manipules ils y a quelques semaines par quelques dizaines de baht par jour, sont maintenant a la maison ..Ils commencent maintenant a ouvrir les yeux se posant la question pourquoi et la faute a qui ils sont si endettes et ont perdus leur terres..
😐
Notre ami "Mengwan" est donc dans le "vrai" dans la plupart de ses analyses et de ses interventions !
+1 pour lui 😐
+1 Voila qui me réconcilie avec ce forum!
"Quand l'injustice devient loi, la rébellion devient devoir. " Thomas Jefferson
« Le doute est l’apanage des gens intelligents, les cons n’ont que des certitudes »
(Alain Leblay)
Au vu de ce que j'ai vu à Bangkok ces derniers jours je partage ton opinion. Les rouges n'étaient nombreux sur le camp que la soir à la sortie des bureaux ce qui montre bien que la plupart habite en ville.
+1 je partage aussi cette annalyse
La beauté est dans l'oeil de celui qui regarde
😎 J - 40 😏
😎 J - 40 😏
Je vois que tu es toujours à BKK. Tu as accepté la proposition de la Thai pour le 5 mai ? En tous cas, je suis toujours avec intérêt tes comptes-rendus car j'ai maintenu mon voyage. Cela va être dur de trouver un endroit calme entre arrivée d'avion et départ par train... Merci de nous informer si utilement et avec objectivité. Prends soin de toi!
Merci, un petit message de soutien est toujours le bienvenu, je ne me plains pas, je reste a l hotel et j appelle la Thai tous les jours. Quand je vois ce que certains voyageurs ont endure ou endurent encore, ma situation est assez confortable.
Je suis en contact quotidien avec l Ambassade, un honorable correspondant me repond fort poliment, mais pour l instant aucune mesure d aide n arrive concretement sur le terrain. C est a peu pres le meme genre de dichotomie entre ceux qui pensent la crise a distance par medias interposes, et la realite...
J ai fait un petit calcul, il doit y avoir environ 2 500 a 3000 personnes a rapatrier par BKK/ RCDG, sur des vols deja complets, il va falloir qu on m explique comment on resoud le probleme mathematiquement sans rajouter des avions... La KlM a annonce par exemple que sur ses lignes il lui faudrait 15j pour ecouler le flot de passagers...ce qui dans mon cas aboutit bien au 5 mai.
Pour les explosions de la nuit, les circonstances et le bilan sont tres confus d une source a l autre, on parle aussi d algarades entre jaunes et rouges qui auraient pu declencher les tirs, et la grenade tombant sur le toit de la station pourrait etre un degat collateral. Ca serait presque rassurant, dans le sens ou l auteur des faits n aurait pas eu la volonte de tuer des passants. Ce que je dis peut sembler grotesque au premier abord, mais ce n est pas la meme chose de se tirer entre extremistes paramilitaires surchauffes ( et pour le coup, la branche armee des Jaunes n a rien a envier avec son homologue rouge) et de bombarder une station ou de simples passants passent. Je suis tout de meme surpris des images, on voit une quantite de touristes qui evacuent la station; j ai l impression qu une partie des Etrangers n a pas bien compris le niveau de dangerosite extreme du secteur et d une confrontation thai-thai, quand c est parti, plus de limites...
L activisme rouge se poursuit d ailleurs en province, a Khon Kaen un convoi militaire par train a ete immobilise plusieurs jours, tout semble rentrer dans l ordre par la negociation. Ouf.
Le BTS fonctionne en partie seulement, et fermera a 18h. D ailleurs, a mon avis il vaut mieux rester a son hotel apres 17h...
Je ne m exprimerai pas sur les analystes de VF, au dessus de 35 degres, je ne peux pas m elever a ce niveau de pensee...😉
Je ne vois pas bien de solution a court terme, il existe une legitimite certaine dans chaque partie (je ne parle pas des ultras, mais des gens de dialogue), plus personne ne peut reculer, et la on touche aussi au fond culturel, bien au dela des strategies politiques... Le pays s enfonce...et pendant ce temps le Sud pleure ses morts presque quotidiens, et tout le monde s en fiche...
Merci, un petit message de soutien est toujours le bienvenu, je ne me plains pas, je reste a l hotel et j appelle la Thai tous les jours. Quand je vois ce que certains voyageurs ont endure ou endurent encore, ma situation est assez confortable.
Je suis en contact quotidien avec l Ambassade, un honorable correspondant me repond fort poliment, mais pour l instant aucune mesure d aide n arrive concretement sur le terrain. C est a peu pres le meme genre de dichotomie entre ceux qui pensent la crise a distance par medias interposes, et la realite...
J ai fait un petit calcul, il doit y avoir environ 2 500 a 3000 personnes a rapatrier par BKK/ RCDG, sur des vols deja complets, il va falloir qu on m explique comment on resoud le probleme mathematiquement sans rajouter des avions... La KlM a annonce par exemple que sur ses lignes il lui faudrait 15j pour ecouler le flot de passagers...ce qui dans mon cas aboutit bien au 5 mai.
Pour les explosions de la nuit, les circonstances et le bilan sont tres confus d une source a l autre, on parle aussi d algarades entre jaunes et rouges qui auraient pu declencher les tirs, et la grenade tombant sur le toit de la station pourrait etre un degat collateral. Ca serait presque rassurant, dans le sens ou l auteur des faits n aurait pas eu la volonte de tuer des passants. Ce que je dis peut sembler grotesque au premier abord, mais ce n est pas la meme chose de se tirer entre extremistes paramilitaires surchauffes ( et pour le coup, la branche armee des Jaunes n a rien a envier avec son homologue rouge) et de bombarder une station ou de simples passants passent. Je suis tout de meme surpris des images, on voit une quantite de touristes qui evacuent la station; j ai l impression qu une partie des Etrangers n a pas bien compris le niveau de dangerosite extreme du secteur et d une confrontation thai-thai, quand c est parti, plus de limites...
L activisme rouge se poursuit d ailleurs en province, a Khon Kaen un convoi militaire par train a ete immobilise plusieurs jours, tout semble rentrer dans l ordre par la negociation. Ouf.
Le BTS fonctionne en partie seulement, et fermera a 18h. D ailleurs, a mon avis il vaut mieux rester a son hotel apres 17h...
Je ne m exprimerai pas sur les analystes de VF, au dessus de 35 degres, je ne peux pas m elever a ce niveau de pensee...😉
Je ne vois pas bien de solution a court terme, il existe une legitimite certaine dans chaque partie (je ne parle pas des ultras, mais des gens de dialogue), plus personne ne peut reculer, et la on touche aussi au fond culturel, bien au dela des strategies politiques... Le pays s enfonce...et pendant ce temps le Sud pleure ses morts presque quotidiens, et tout le monde s en fiche...
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Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!






