Thaïlande: importer des bouddhas pour les vendre
by Jeanseb
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
salut a tous
comme je vais faire les marches cet ete avec de la marchandise thai, je voulais en partie miser sur "bouddha super star" avec un stand digne de ce nom.
mais, grosse deception, on viens de m'expliquer qu'il faut une licence pour exporter tout ce qui est statues et tetes, meme si ce sont de simples moulages. par contre les image de bouddha ne serait pas interdites (tableaux, luminaires...)
genre il faudrait payer 500b de plus pour une minuscule statue.
ca tue mon business, desuite
est-ce bien vrai ?
je trouve ca legerement aberrant etat donne que ce ne sont pas des antiquites mais des productions industrielles massives, il n'y a donc pas pillage de tresors. mais bon j'y peux rien et cependant je respecte.
you have to make your own fun
je voulais en partie miser sur "bouddha super star" avec un stand digne de ce nom.
S'il te plait, évite !!! Je n'ai pas de religion, mais pour une fois qu'une philosophie est, selon moi, tolérante et respectable, ne la salis pas avec du buziness... Je sais qu'en Occident les moeurs sont plus légères, mais ton stand sera très mal vu par tous les bouddhistes et sympathisants qui le verront et tu donneras une image erronée et malsaine de la Thailande et de la façon dont les thais vivent leur philosophie (vu que ce sont des objets thais que tu vas proposer à côté). Je ne tiens pas à me montrer vaindicative ni agressive à ton égard, j'ose penser que tu as eu cette idée par ignorance, mais je te réitère la demande : NE FAIS PAS CA !
S'il te plait, évite !!! Je n'ai pas de religion, mais pour une fois qu'une philosophie est, selon moi, tolérante et respectable, ne la salis pas avec du buziness... Je sais qu'en Occident les moeurs sont plus légères, mais ton stand sera très mal vu par tous les bouddhistes et sympathisants qui le verront et tu donneras une image erronée et malsaine de la Thailande et de la façon dont les thais vivent leur philosophie (vu que ce sont des objets thais que tu vas proposer à côté). Je ne tiens pas à me montrer vaindicative ni agressive à ton égard, j'ose penser que tu as eu cette idée par ignorance, mais je te réitère la demande : NE FAIS PAS CA !
Tout à fait d'accord avec toi, j'ai penser la même chose .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
si c'est effectivement une question de religion et que c'est insultant pour les thailandais, alors il est evidemment hors de question que je vendre des bouddha.
desolais, ma demarche etait certe mercantile mais innoncente.
mais alors, la question logique que je me pose a present est : pourquoi les thai vendent-ils eux-meme ces bouddha sans aucun scrupule dans leur pays ?
you have to make your own fun
desolais, ma demarche etait certe mercantile mais innoncente.
mais alors, la question logique que je me pose a present est : pourquoi les thai vendent-ils eux-meme ces bouddha sans aucun scrupule dans leur pays ?
Merci d'avoir changé d'avis, cela est tout à ton honneur. Pour la suite et ta question, tu auras certainement nombre de réponses de gens plus qualifiés que moi, je lirai les réponses avec grand intérêt.
Merci d'avoir changé d'avis, cela est tout à ton honneur. Pour la suite et ta question, tu auras certainement nombre de réponses de gens plus qualifiés que moi, je lirai les réponses avec grand intérêt.
Salut Jeanseb,
Je vois que tu es de Bordeaux si tu veux faire du business, un bon plan vendre du vin rosé et en Thaïlande on en trouve pas et en plus les thais(es) adorent ça, chaque fois que j'y vais j'en apporte 10 litres ils se r��galent avec du rosé et crois moi que les 10 litres ne fait pas long feu . Enfin ceci est une idée comme une autre et en plus pas périssable ou presque pas comme le miel .😉
Je vois que tu es de Bordeaux si tu veux faire du business, un bon plan vendre du vin rosé et en Thaïlande on en trouve pas et en plus les thais(es) adorent ça, chaque fois que j'y vais j'en apporte 10 litres ils se r��galent avec du rosé et crois moi que les 10 litres ne fait pas long feu . Enfin ceci est une idée comme une autre et en plus pas périssable ou presque pas comme le miel .😉
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Marc,
cette idée ( du vin ) je l'ai depuis longtemps, car j'ai meme les amis vigner, ons qui peuvent fournir, le seul problème ce sont les taxes d'importation, si tu as quelques infos, on se recontactes dés que je rentre en privé
trouver son chemin personnel a travers le chemin initiatique du voyage
pour faire du biz en thailande apparemment il y aurait du potentiel au niveau des produits francais mais c'est decourageant a cause des sommes fantastiques d'argent qu'il faut avoir a present, or je ne me suis qu'un pauvre traveller...
mais revenons donc au sujet principal de cette discution si vous le voulez bien
you have to make your own fun
: pourquoi les thai vendent-ils eux-meme ces bouddha sans aucun scrupule dans leur pays ?
Et bien cette loi est justement faite pour que les étrangers ne vendent des représentations de Bouddha sans scrupule ou les utilisent de manière innapropriée. Cela régule le "mauvais usage" Vendre des bouddhas à l'étranger sur des marchés n'était donc pas une bonne idée, cela fait partie des choses non acceptables pouir les thaïs.
En ce qui concerne votre phrase "pourquoi les thai vendent-ils eux-meme ces bouddha sans aucun scrupule dans leur pays ?", avez-vous vu seulement une fois, un mauvais usage de Bouddha ïci ? L'usage de "sans scrupule" est totalement inadapté à la réalité.
Et bien cette loi est justement faite pour que les étrangers ne vendent des représentations de Bouddha sans scrupule ou les utilisent de manière innapropriée. Cela régule le "mauvais usage" Vendre des bouddhas à l'étranger sur des marchés n'était donc pas une bonne idée, cela fait partie des choses non acceptables pouir les thaïs.
En ce qui concerne votre phrase "pourquoi les thai vendent-ils eux-meme ces bouddha sans aucun scrupule dans leur pays ?", avez-vous vu seulement une fois, un mauvais usage de Bouddha ïci ? L'usage de "sans scrupule" est totalement inadapté à la réalité.
tu crois peu etre aue les thai vendent ces statues uniquement aux thai pour qu'ils les utilisent a des fin regilieuse et non decorative ?
c'est tout le contraire
ya pratiquement que des farangs qui achete ca en souvenir et le ramene en France pour la decoration avec un soupcon de spiritualite
you have to make your own fun
Pas de soucis pour les taxes d'importation, j'ai penser à tout il suffit de tirer une pipeline jusque là-bas et une grosse car la consommation va couler à flot .😏😏
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
" ya pratiquement que des farangs qui achete ca en souvenir et le ramene en France pour la decoration avec un soupcon de spiritualite "
tout à fait d'accord avec toi jeanseb ! les thais vendent pas mal de bouddhas et meme des vieux bouddhas, j'en ai vu .
et meme en france tu en trouvent partout dans les magasins de meubles exotiques et grandes surfaces, brocanteurs etc... ils sont en bois, platre, metaux ... et cela semble choquer personne, on va pas me faire croire que untel ou un tel n'a jamais vu de bouddhas en vente en france
A partir ou tu n'es pas bouddhiste, il ne semble pas y avoir de probleme pour eux ! le mieux c 'est de te renseigner là-bas auprés de thais avisés, eux seuls te diront la réalité des choses, problème ou pas .
tout à fait d'accord avec toi jeanseb ! les thais vendent pas mal de bouddhas et meme des vieux bouddhas, j'en ai vu .
et meme en france tu en trouvent partout dans les magasins de meubles exotiques et grandes surfaces, brocanteurs etc... ils sont en bois, platre, metaux ... et cela semble choquer personne, on va pas me faire croire que untel ou un tel n'a jamais vu de bouddhas en vente en france
A partir ou tu n'es pas bouddhiste, il ne semble pas y avoir de probleme pour eux ! le mieux c 'est de te renseigner là-bas auprés de thais avisés, eux seuls te diront la réalité des choses, problème ou pas .
je n'ai point d'ennemis, mais si je dois en avoir un, fais que sa force soit égale à la mienne et que seule la vérité chante victoire.
mais, grosse deception, on viens de m'expliquer qu'il faut une licence pour exporter tout ce qui est statues et tetes, meme si ce sont de simples moulages. par contre les image de bouddha ne serait pas interdites (tableaux, luminaires...)
genre il faudrait payer 500b de plus pour une minuscule statue.
ca tue mon business, desuite
L'achat des statues de Bouddha est possible, sans problème, au Sri lanka et sûrement en Inde cela fait partie d'ailleurs des articles les plus vendus dans les fabrications artisanales en bois de cocotier ... avec les éléphants. Et cela ne choque pas les Sri Lankais ... (petit rappel, le bouddhisme actuel de Thailande à été introduit par les moines Sri Lankais) Chez moi par contre, j'ai un Bouddha qui vient de Thailande ... ce bouddha vient d'une Pagode parisienne ... les moines de cette pagode achètent leurs bouddhas et objets religieux en Thailande ! (mais je ne l'ai pas acheté, car un bouddha ne s'achète pas ... j'ai simplement fait un don à la pagode) Par contre, en Thailande, j'ai pu acheter à une vendeuse sur un trottoir des amulettes représentant des bouddhas, elles était très jolies (mais sans grande valeur marchande) J'ai passé la douane sans rien dire ... et on ne m'a rien demandé non plus. (Mais j'avais ma conscience pour moi car ces amulettes étaient destinées a être offertes à des amis bouddhistes Sri Lankais ! ) Ceci dit, Carrefour faisait il y a 15 jours un stand sur tout un fatras de produits "mode" asiatiques (surement fabriqués pour rien en Chine). Le clous de ces mochetés (pour moi) c'était une tête de bouddha lampe de chevet ! avec je crois plusieurs versions de couleurs ...
c'est vrai qu'en ce moment, parler de religion ça enerve autant que parler de politique !!! Ceci dit, j'ai aussi chez moi une icone de vierge ortodoxe ... juste en déco parce qu'elle est bien jolie et cela ne choque personne ! enfin j'espère ... qu'il ny a pas de popes vfistes intégristes...
en conclusion : va en chine, du trouveras surement ce que tu cherches avec des prix top du top !!! et tant pis pour les tibétains ...
L'achat des statues de Bouddha est possible, sans problème, au Sri lanka et sûrement en Inde cela fait partie d'ailleurs des articles les plus vendus dans les fabrications artisanales en bois de cocotier ... avec les éléphants. Et cela ne choque pas les Sri Lankais ... (petit rappel, le bouddhisme actuel de Thailande à été introduit par les moines Sri Lankais) Chez moi par contre, j'ai un Bouddha qui vient de Thailande ... ce bouddha vient d'une Pagode parisienne ... les moines de cette pagode achètent leurs bouddhas et objets religieux en Thailande ! (mais je ne l'ai pas acheté, car un bouddha ne s'achète pas ... j'ai simplement fait un don à la pagode) Par contre, en Thailande, j'ai pu acheter à une vendeuse sur un trottoir des amulettes représentant des bouddhas, elles était très jolies (mais sans grande valeur marchande) J'ai passé la douane sans rien dire ... et on ne m'a rien demandé non plus. (Mais j'avais ma conscience pour moi car ces amulettes étaient destinées a être offertes à des amis bouddhistes Sri Lankais ! ) Ceci dit, Carrefour faisait il y a 15 jours un stand sur tout un fatras de produits "mode" asiatiques (surement fabriqués pour rien en Chine). Le clous de ces mochetés (pour moi) c'était une tête de bouddha lampe de chevet ! avec je crois plusieurs versions de couleurs ...
c'est vrai qu'en ce moment, parler de religion ça enerve autant que parler de politique !!! Ceci dit, j'ai aussi chez moi une icone de vierge ortodoxe ... juste en déco parce qu'elle est bien jolie et cela ne choque personne ! enfin j'espère ... qu'il ny a pas de popes vfistes intégristes...
en conclusion : va en chine, du trouveras surement ce que tu cherches avec des prix top du top !!! et tant pis pour les tibétains ...
fanfan
Il n'existe rien de constant si ce n'est le changement ...
Il y a deja un pipeline qui s'appelle les comptoirs d'asie ! Il suffit de faire une derivation! je vous propose du Monbazillac! Quant au rosé plus c'est sucré et plus c'est apprecié (EH EH +c'est bu!) ! 😉
Roger
Bonsoir,
Etant sur place en Thailande, je me permets de répondre a votre question. Il n est absolument pas interdit d exporter des statues représentant bouddha à partir d ici, excepte pour les antiquites. Dans votre cas, pour des statues qui seront realises en grand nombre, que ce soit en bois, pierre ou autre matériaux, aucune exigeance de la part des douanes thailandaises n est exigee. Dans le cas d antiquites, il vous faudrait obtenir une licence d export a titre exceptionnel, ce qui n est ici pas le cas.
N hesitez pas si vous avez d autres questions,
Bien a vous,
Jean-Michel
Etant sur place en Thailande, je me permets de répondre a votre question. Il n est absolument pas interdit d exporter des statues représentant bouddha à partir d ici, excepte pour les antiquites. Dans votre cas, pour des statues qui seront realises en grand nombre, que ce soit en bois, pierre ou autre matériaux, aucune exigeance de la part des douanes thailandaises n est exigee. Dans le cas d antiquites, il vous faudrait obtenir une licence d export a titre exceptionnel, ce qui n est ici pas le cas.
N hesitez pas si vous avez d autres questions,
Bien a vous,
Jean-Michel
salut a tous
comme je vais faire les marches cet ete avec de la marchandise thai, je voulais en partie miser sur "bouddha super star" avec un stand digne de ce nom.
mais, grosse deception, on viens de m'expliquer qu'il faut une licence pour exporter tout ce qui est statues et tetes, meme si ce sont de simples moulages. par contre les image de bouddha ne serait pas interdites (tableaux, luminaires...)
genre il faudrait payer 500b de plus pour une minuscule statue.
Les thailandais sont aussi hypocrites que tous autres... 😉 Car ces resines a l'effigie de "Bouddha" se vendent par millions d'exemplaires et en particuliers aux etrangers et sont sans valeur ! Cette bondieuserie se monnait aussi bien que n'importe quoi, donc les figurines qui vous interessent peuvent etre reproduite a l'infini... Il suffit que vous trouviez un artisan capable ou de le faire vous meme en France ! 🙂
Les thailandais sont aussi hypocrites que tous autres... 😉 Car ces resines a l'effigie de "Bouddha" se vendent par millions d'exemplaires et en particuliers aux etrangers et sont sans valeur ! Cette bondieuserie se monnait aussi bien que n'importe quoi, donc les figurines qui vous interessent peuvent etre reproduite a l'infini... Il suffit que vous trouviez un artisan capable ou de le faire vous meme en France ! 🙂
Slt,
En france actuellement on surfe sur la zen attitude : mange bien, soit pas gros, fait du sport, soit a la mode, soit design...tu regardera rien que sur Ebay, il y a un vendeur que je suis depuis pas mal de temps qui vend des figurines venant du nepal ou du tibet (bouddha, shiva, etc...).
Son commerce marche tres bien, il suffit de suivre ses ventes en te creant un compte ebay et tu verra par toi meme, de la tu pourra meme faire des stats des statues qui marche le mieux.
Etant en ecole, je pense que meme si les occidentaux ont moins de scrupule, ils sont tres peu a porter une connotation religieuse a ce genre d'objet (casa, ikea, etc.). Je pense donc, que tu devrais partir au Nepal ou au Tibet, tu en aura pour 80US de visa au pire. Je serai en Inde avant de repartir en Thailande, pourquoi pas se rencontrer meme? j'y serait tout le mois de Juin et peut etre meme jusque mi Juillet avant de rejoindre Koh Tao.
N'hésite pas a me contacter car ce business m'interesse aussi,
Sinon etudie vite fait le marché des sites marchands sur le web qui a pris encore 40% de valeur cette année...à méditer...bouddha.
See Ya, 😛
David
En france actuellement on surfe sur la zen attitude : mange bien, soit pas gros, fait du sport, soit a la mode, soit design...tu regardera rien que sur Ebay, il y a un vendeur que je suis depuis pas mal de temps qui vend des figurines venant du nepal ou du tibet (bouddha, shiva, etc...).
Son commerce marche tres bien, il suffit de suivre ses ventes en te creant un compte ebay et tu verra par toi meme, de la tu pourra meme faire des stats des statues qui marche le mieux.
Etant en ecole, je pense que meme si les occidentaux ont moins de scrupule, ils sont tres peu a porter une connotation religieuse a ce genre d'objet (casa, ikea, etc.). Je pense donc, que tu devrais partir au Nepal ou au Tibet, tu en aura pour 80US de visa au pire. Je serai en Inde avant de repartir en Thailande, pourquoi pas se rencontrer meme? j'y serait tout le mois de Juin et peut etre meme jusque mi Juillet avant de rejoindre Koh Tao.
N'hésite pas a me contacter car ce business m'interesse aussi,
Sinon etudie vite fait le marché des sites marchands sur le web qui a pris encore 40% de valeur cette année...à méditer...bouddha.
See Ya, 😛
David
Sur le site du Ministry of Foreign Affairs il est indiqué, en anglais: Newly cast Buddha images [....] can be exported [....] with licenses issued by the Fine Arts Department.
Voila pour l'information a la source: il y a restriction a l'exportation de toute représentation de Bouddha, hors de Thailande.
Selon les croyances bouddhistes, l'acquisition d'un Bouddha est avant tout, une démarche spirituelle. Chacun est libre de faire selon sa conscience.
(Ce sujet date de mi-février)
Voila pour l'information a la source: il y a restriction a l'exportation de toute représentation de Bouddha, hors de Thailande.
Selon les croyances bouddhistes, l'acquisition d'un Bouddha est avant tout, une démarche spirituelle. Chacun est libre de faire selon sa conscience.
(Ce sujet date de mi-février)
Ou de trouver (acheter) un (une? ) moule !CHUI OU CE SOIR !!!🏴☠️
Roger
Désolé, mais je peux confirmer qu il n existe pas de restrictions sur l achat, et l exportation de figurines de bouddhas, tant que celles ci ne sont pas des antiquites. Il est evident, que tous les bouddhas presents sur les marches ou que toutes les statues pouvant etre fabriquer par des artisans locaux ne sont en aucun cas des antiquites. Il est donc possible d en exporter un container complet si bon te semble, aucun probleme pour les Thais concernant ceci !!
Ceci explique bien d ailleurs pourquoi il y a tant de ces statues en France ou ailleurs !!!
Bien a vous,
Ceci explique bien d ailleurs pourquoi il y a tant de ces statues en France ou ailleurs !!!
Bien a vous,
JMB,
Ce n'est pas sain d'inciter a la fraude et de nier la loi Thailandaise que je t'ai pourtant mis sous le nez. Malgré cela tu continues...
Et ta facon d'insister, n'est pas innocent : si tu veux faire des affaires avec jeanseb, le mieux c'est de le contacter par MP.
Mais s'il te plait, arrete de promouvoir l'irrespect des croyances et des religions des autres. Surtout si c'est pour satisfaire tes activités commerciales.
Et ta facon d'insister, n'est pas innocent : si tu veux faire des affaires avec jeanseb, le mieux c'est de le contacter par MP.
Mais s'il te plait, arrete de promouvoir l'irrespect des croyances et des religions des autres. Surtout si c'est pour satisfaire tes activités commerciales.
Ce dont je suis certain, c'est ce que le Minsistry of Foreign Affairs ecrit sur sont site. Tout le monde a pu le vérifier, j'ai cité la source. Cette loi n'est pas de moi, mais des thailandais eux-meme.
Donc s'il te plait cesse de promouvoir des idées qui sont illégales en Thailande, et qui ont aussi pour conséquence de provoquer et choquer inutilement les thailandais. Il est évident que le site du MFA traite de ce qui se passe en Thailande et pas de l'Europe. C'est l'exportation de Thailande qui est soumise a restriction. Ce n'est pas nécessaire d'essayer de déformer l'information.
Je ne conteste pas qu'il y ait des fraudes massives, de la contrefacon, comme de la prostitution, et de la maffia en Thailande. Puisque pour passer outre les lois, je me doute bien que le monde crapuleux, meme expatrié, ne manque pas d'imagination.-
Non, djo45, Tchatuchak n'est pas un marché destiné aux étrangers. Mais comme sur tous les marchés, les étrangers ont plaisir a y venir faire quelques achats, malgré la qualité médiocre. On y trouve effectivement des statuettes, comme des jeans, des lapins, des canapés et des chaises, des chaussures d'occasion ...
Les boutiques de duty free des aéroports de Thailande ne vendent aucune image de Bouddha, par respect de la loi.
Donc s'il te plait cesse de promouvoir des idées qui sont illégales en Thailande, et qui ont aussi pour conséquence de provoquer et choquer inutilement les thailandais. Il est évident que le site du MFA traite de ce qui se passe en Thailande et pas de l'Europe. C'est l'exportation de Thailande qui est soumise a restriction. Ce n'est pas nécessaire d'essayer de déformer l'information.
Je ne conteste pas qu'il y ait des fraudes massives, de la contrefacon, comme de la prostitution, et de la maffia en Thailande. Puisque pour passer outre les lois, je me doute bien que le monde crapuleux, meme expatrié, ne manque pas d'imagination.-
Non, djo45, Tchatuchak n'est pas un marché destiné aux étrangers. Mais comme sur tous les marchés, les étrangers ont plaisir a y venir faire quelques achats, malgré la qualité médiocre. On y trouve effectivement des statuettes, comme des jeans, des lapins, des canapés et des chaises, des chaussures d'occasion ...
Les boutiques de duty free des aéroports de Thailande ne vendent aucune image de Bouddha, par respect de la loi.
sawatdii kiti !
Sauf erreur de ma part dj45 n'a jamais dit : " Non, djo45, Tchatuchak n'est pas un marché destiné aux étrangers. "
mais il a dit : " destinés à la vente en gros à l'étranger " ce qui n'est pas la meme chose !
il n'y rien de mal à ramener avec soi des statues en guise de souvenir, il sont d'ailleurs en vente pour tout acquéreurs bouhdiste ou non, ce qu'il faut c'est respecter l'objet . Mais il faudrat dans tous les cas une autorisation des beaux-arts thai, enfin d'empecher que des spécimens rares et/ ou volés, trésors nationaux et objets provenant de temples disparaissent illégalement du pays . pour cela il y a une marche à suivre le vendeur peut déjà vous donner les premiers renseignements .
et je finirai en disant " bon courage "
Sauf erreur de ma part dj45 n'a jamais dit : " Non, djo45, Tchatuchak n'est pas un marché destiné aux étrangers. "
mais il a dit : " destinés à la vente en gros à l'étranger " ce qui n'est pas la meme chose !
il n'y rien de mal à ramener avec soi des statues en guise de souvenir, il sont d'ailleurs en vente pour tout acquéreurs bouhdiste ou non, ce qu'il faut c'est respecter l'objet . Mais il faudrat dans tous les cas une autorisation des beaux-arts thai, enfin d'empecher que des spécimens rares et/ ou volés, trésors nationaux et objets provenant de temples disparaissent illégalement du pays . pour cela il y a une marche à suivre le vendeur peut déjà vous donner les premiers renseignements .
et je finirai en disant " bon courage "
je n'ai point d'ennemis, mais si je dois en avoir un, fais que sa force soit égale à la mienne et que seule la vérité chante victoire.
Bonjour,
mais ton stand sera très mal vu par tous les bouddhistes et sympathisants qui le verront
Je ne pense pas, cela me fait toujours plaisir d'appercevoir un Bouddha, même dans un magasin qui en vendent, et je lui fait un petit salut dans ma tête 😉
Le Bouddha a enseigné que son image, son corps n'étaient pas important, mais que seul son message, le Dharma l'était 🙂 . Car lui seul lui survivrait. Cela permet de relativiser tout ce qui a été dit dans se post.
Par contre il faut toujours prendre soin de connaitre l'origine des choses, et c'est valable pour les objets. Je vais acheter un Bouddha, bien, mais à qui ? D'ou provient-il ? Est-ce un artisan qui l'a fabriqué ? Un enfant ? Est-ce qu'il a été volé dans un temple du Tibet suite à un pillage ???? Est-ce que vous pouvez répondre à ces questions quand vous achetez votre Bouddha ???
Voir quelqu'un acheter un Bouddha dans un magasin ou un marché ou pourquoi pas sur Ebay ne me choque pas (si on respecte la règle ennoncée plus haut). Si cette personne sera capable de s'assoir en face de son Bouddha rien que 5 minutes de temps en temps, après avoir allumé un baton d'encens, et de respirer profondément en nourrisant la joie que lui apporte ce moment présent, alors là il aura même réussi à faire venir le vrai Bouddha a côté de lui ......
Mais si c'est pour le poser sur une étagère, et ne plus le voir au bout de quelques jours .... No comment 😛
Bonne journée à vous
mais ton stand sera très mal vu par tous les bouddhistes et sympathisants qui le verront
Je ne pense pas, cela me fait toujours plaisir d'appercevoir un Bouddha, même dans un magasin qui en vendent, et je lui fait un petit salut dans ma tête 😉
Le Bouddha a enseigné que son image, son corps n'étaient pas important, mais que seul son message, le Dharma l'était 🙂 . Car lui seul lui survivrait. Cela permet de relativiser tout ce qui a été dit dans se post.
Par contre il faut toujours prendre soin de connaitre l'origine des choses, et c'est valable pour les objets. Je vais acheter un Bouddha, bien, mais à qui ? D'ou provient-il ? Est-ce un artisan qui l'a fabriqué ? Un enfant ? Est-ce qu'il a été volé dans un temple du Tibet suite à un pillage ???? Est-ce que vous pouvez répondre à ces questions quand vous achetez votre Bouddha ???
Voir quelqu'un acheter un Bouddha dans un magasin ou un marché ou pourquoi pas sur Ebay ne me choque pas (si on respecte la règle ennoncée plus haut). Si cette personne sera capable de s'assoir en face de son Bouddha rien que 5 minutes de temps en temps, après avoir allumé un baton d'encens, et de respirer profondément en nourrisant la joie que lui apporte ce moment présent, alors là il aura même réussi à faire venir le vrai Bouddha a côté de lui ......
Mais si c'est pour le poser sur une étagère, et ne plus le voir au bout de quelques jours .... No comment 😛
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STP . Arrête d'écrire des conneries et de te poser en donneuse de leçons...Je suis marchand, français, j'achette et je vends des Bouddhas à des français , bouddhistes pour certains, profanes pour d'autres. Ceux qui me les vendent sont eux-mêmes de bons bouddhistes, et de bon pères de famille. C'est avec leurs ventes qu'ils nourissent leurs familles. Que ce soit un Bouddha ou un crucifix je ne vois pas en quoi tu en interdirais la vente. Au départ tout est fabriqué et vendu , la destination et l'usage est le problème de chacun. Si je te suis Bouddha c'est comme Mahomet , pas de représentation...? Moi je gagne honnêtement ma vie avec ça, et sans irrespect pour la religion, ma grand mère à acheté son chapelet avec une croix et un petit Jésus , ça ne fait pas d'elle une hérétique, ni le marchand qui lui à vendu, et encore moins l'artisan qui l'a créé. Je ne sais pas si tu es bouddhiste, mais si c'est le cas j'aimerais savoir comment tu as créé ton autel, tu l'as volé, fabriqué, ton bouddha il vient du saint-esprit , il n'à jamais été dans un circuit commerçial avant d'être chez toi ? Une bonne religion c'est avant tout de ne pas laisser les gens crever de fain; et les artisans qui façonnent ces Bouddhas seraient bien tristes s'ils lisaient tes conneries. Tu es qui pour délivrer des autorisations et des interdits de diffusion d'objets de cultes ? Dieu ? Si ce mec veut vendre des Bouddhas c'est bien , pour lui, pour ceux qui les lui vendent , pour ceux qui les fabriquent, pour ceux qui les achètent... Et pour le bouddhisme ne te fais pas de soucis il est bien plus pragmatique que tu sembles le croire. Moi je n'ai pas honte de vendre mes Bouddhas, moins que du pinard, ou du saussiçon, je sais faire la différence, et mes Bouddhas n'ont jamais rendu malade mes clients.
Vous l'êtes sûrement...et les moines que je vois acheter des Bouddhas dans les plus belles échopes, pour le compte de leurs monastères ne doivent pas l'être non plus...et les marchands qui les vendent, et ceux qui les fondent sont des vilains mécréants ...mais vous un vrai et bon bouddhiste, c'est ça ? Je vous saluts bien et pour moi ma vie m'appartient et continuera sans vos leçons , ainsi que le monde...
C'était un simple clin d'oeil. Personnellement, je n'ai pas de problème de conscience pour acheter des représentations bouddhiques. Juste un problème de budget.😉
Et quelques interrogations quand je vois les prix des marchands locaux et les prix des marchands occidentaux.
Je dirais même plus: il faut sans doute être plutôt bouddhiste quand on fait ce commerce. Il ne viendrait par exemple à l'esprit de personne qu'un marchand de crucifix et missels ne soit pas un peu chrétien.🙂
A l'origine, je suppose que les réglementations ont été mises en place avant tout pour limiter le trafic d'antiquités de valeur, certains pays ayant été dépouillés sans vergogne de pans entiers de leur histoire. Pas pour limiter le commerce et la circulation de représentations sans grande valeur autre que cultuelle.
Je dirais même plus: il faut sans doute être plutôt bouddhiste quand on fait ce commerce. Il ne viendrait par exemple à l'esprit de personne qu'un marchand de crucifix et missels ne soit pas un peu chrétien.🙂
A l'origine, je suppose que les réglementations ont été mises en place avant tout pour limiter le trafic d'antiquités de valeur, certains pays ayant été dépouillés sans vergogne de pans entiers de leur histoire. Pas pour limiter le commerce et la circulation de représentations sans grande valeur autre que cultuelle.
Sous le vacarme, la vie.
Oui pour cela j'abonde dans votre sens. Il s'agit pour ces pays de protéger leur patrimoine culturel , de faire cesser la razzia et le recel de ce qui leur appartient, mais de là à lire qu'on ne doit pas exposer une statue en bronze , en laiton, en bois qui n'a été ni volé , ni le fruit d'une exploitation humaine, est un sacrilège, on est en plein dans l'obstracisme...Savoir si son bouddha acheté sur une expo lui servira à devenir plus serein, plus humain, moins malade, ou s'il va lui servir de porte savon, de presse papier ou pour décorer la cheminée est la conscience de celui qui l'achete. Beaucoup de mes clients le purifient, et lui font sa place avec amour, je ne leur demande pas leur carte ou certificat proféssionnel de bouddhisme...j'ai seulement voulu réagir à cet interlocuteur qui écrivait "Tu n'a pas le droit de..." Je trouve plus sain qu'on diffuse du "Bouddha" que du "Pokemon" CELA NE PEUT PAS FAIRE PLUS DE MAL...
Ceci dit, c'est un peu difficile pour le profane en objets antiques de faire la différence. On connaît l'anecdote des artisans siamois, excellents au demeurant, qui fabriquent à la chaîne de vraies-fausses antiquités, en enterrant leurs productions et en urinant dessus.
Patine garantie.
Un ami s'est procuré en Thaïlande une tête de bouddha en bois. Plus tard, il s'est marié à une Thaï, qui lui a dit qu'il aurait fallu faire passer l'objet au Comité de contrôle à l'exportation, pour être bien sûr que ce n'était pas une dépouille historique. Profitant d'un séjour au Siam, elle est donc partie avec une photo pour voir ce qu'il en était. Apparemment la photo était insuffisante pour statuer (c'est le cas de le dire).
Une autre histoire a défrayé la chronique locale, il y a 5 ou 6 ans; un farang avait piqué un objet dans un temple et l'avait rapporté dans son pays. Une série de catastrophes personnelles a suivi, qui s'est terminée le jour où il a rapporté sa prise et l'a replacée. Amusant.
Un ami s'est procuré en Thaïlande une tête de bouddha en bois. Plus tard, il s'est marié à une Thaï, qui lui a dit qu'il aurait fallu faire passer l'objet au Comité de contrôle à l'exportation, pour être bien sûr que ce n'était pas une dépouille historique. Profitant d'un séjour au Siam, elle est donc partie avec une photo pour voir ce qu'il en était. Apparemment la photo était insuffisante pour statuer (c'est le cas de le dire).
Une autre histoire a défrayé la chronique locale, il y a 5 ou 6 ans; un farang avait piqué un objet dans un temple et l'avait rapporté dans son pays. Une série de catastrophes personnelles a suivi, qui s'est terminée le jour où il a rapporté sa prise et l'a replacée. Amusant.
Sous le vacarme, la vie.
Cela m'amuse l'ignorance des étrangers qui pensent que les moines ne font pas du business. Je connais plusieurs thaïs dont le commerce est de vendre des amulettes qui ont reçu la bénédiction de moines réputés. Une amulette de quelques baths est revendus pour plusieurs centaines voir plusieurs milliers après avoir reçu la bénédiction du moine. Moine qui est payé pour cela.
Une autre histoire a défrayé la chronique locale, il y a 5 ou 6 ans; un farang avait piqué un objet dans un temple et l'avait rapporté dans son pays.
Une série de catastrophes personnelles a suivi, qui s'est terminée le jour où il a rapporté sa prise et l'a replacée.
et à lourdes, certains ont retrouvé la vue.... 😎 🏴☠️
et à lourdes, certains ont retrouvé la vue.... 😎 🏴☠️
C'est aussi ce qui me frappe au Népal .Lorsque vous visitez les plus belles échopes de Bodnath, avec des objets de cultes, Bouddhas et autres , ciselés d'or et d'argent , et que vous ne pouvez que lécher la vitrine vu la valeur (justifiée) de ces objets d'art, vous vous appercevez que leurs clients exclusifs sont des moines tibétains, qui viennent gratter l'or et l'argent avec une pointe d'acier pour vérifier si la qualité est bien réelle avant de conclure l'achat. Cela est frappant mais ne fait pas d'eux des non bouddhistes. Il sont de redoutables marchands bien avisés, pas malhonnêtes, et de vrais bouddhistes , dans de vrais monastères. Le seul bémol là dedans c'est lorsque les étrangers au Népal se répandent en larmes et en compation sur ces pauvres tibétains, car il à meilleur commerce que les objets de culte, celui de la cause tibétaine, qui ne profite jamais aux vrais réfugiers, mais aux monastères , et encore plus à de nombreux marchands étrangers qui achetent à vil prix , exportent et revendent à prix d'or avec de belles pancartes du style " Association Provence Hymalaya", "free tibet" , "Help children" et j'en passe . Là cela devient écoeurant.
De mon côté, je ne sais pas trop comment définir le bouddhisme, encore moins le "bon" et le "mauvais". D'ailleurs, je pense qu'il ne se définit pas, et personnellement ça ne me fait pas avancer d'essayer de le définir.😉
Sur cette intense réflexion... Bonne continuation.🙂
Sur cette intense réflexion... Bonne continuation.🙂
Sous le vacarme, la vie.
D'ailleurs, je pense qu'il ne se définit pas, et personnellemnt ça ne me fait pas avancer d'essayer de le définir.😉
Peut-être pourrait-on dire qu'il s'agit de la science de l'esprit par excellence ! Une religion sans principe créateur peut-elle être une religion ? Sinon par rapport aux statuettes de Bouddha, il faut au moins les disposer en hauteur par respect...ça n'avait pas encore été dit dans cette discussion, j'y remédie ! Dans l'absolu, le commerce dans ce domaine plus encore que dans tous les autres n'est pas une bonne chose si on prend en compte que l'argent est une grave erreur dans cette vie ; tout autant que transformer les métaux, exploiter son prochain, occulter la souffrance animale, inventer des frontières...Et dans le sens relatif de ce système...pourquoi pas ? mieux vaut vendre des Bouddhas, même à des gens qui n'ont pas la foi, plutôt que des play-stations abrutissantes à des gamins !😉
Peut-être pourrait-on dire qu'il s'agit de la science de l'esprit par excellence ! Une religion sans principe créateur peut-elle être une religion ? Sinon par rapport aux statuettes de Bouddha, il faut au moins les disposer en hauteur par respect...ça n'avait pas encore été dit dans cette discussion, j'y remédie ! Dans l'absolu, le commerce dans ce domaine plus encore que dans tous les autres n'est pas une bonne chose si on prend en compte que l'argent est une grave erreur dans cette vie ; tout autant que transformer les métaux, exploiter son prochain, occulter la souffrance animale, inventer des frontières...Et dans le sens relatif de ce système...pourquoi pas ? mieux vaut vendre des Bouddhas, même à des gens qui n'ont pas la foi, plutôt que des play-stations abrutissantes à des gamins !😉
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We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
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After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
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Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
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Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
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After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
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After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
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- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
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We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
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After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
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Thanks in advance for your help.
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Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.





