Obtenir un visa thaïlandais sans billet d'avion aller-retour?
by Fifmimi
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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bonjour à tous,
nous souhaitons partir en sac à dos à travers toute l'Asie du Sud Est d'ici le 15 octobre, avec simplement un billet aller simple : Paris-Bangkok.
Nous commençons à faire nos demandes de visas pour certain pays, mais il est indiqué sur plusieurs sites qu'il faut pouvoir justifier le voyage grâce aux billets d'avion aller-retour.
Mais nous souhaitons voyager et passer les frontières à pieds sans titre de transport.
A votre avis est ce possible d'obtenir les visas touristiques d'une frontière à l'autre sans billet d'avion??? comme pour le Vietnam et le cambodge par exemple??
merci d'avance pour vos conseils si précieux,
bonjour,
j'ai toujours eu mes visas sans montrer les billets d'avion que ce soit pour la Thailande (fait dans différent pays (France, Malaisie, Singapour, Laos)), le Vietnam ou le Laos (Visa à l'arrivée sur le pont de l'amitié).
bon voyage
j'ai toujours eu mes visas sans montrer les billets d'avion que ce soit pour la Thailande (fait dans différent pays (France, Malaisie, Singapour, Laos)), le Vietnam ou le Laos (Visa à l'arrivée sur le pont de l'amitié).
bon voyage
.•¯(_.•¯(_.•¯(Le monde est un livre, et ceux qui ne voyagent pas n'en lisent qu'une page )¯`•._)¯`•._)¯`•.
Saint Augustin.
"A priori", une fois en Thailande, tu dois pouvoir obtenir tes visas au fur et à mesure pour les pays voisins.... Par contre, sans visa et Aller simple, tu risques de ne pas embarquer à PAris pour BKK, certaines Cies appliquant plus ou moins rigoureusement la loi......
Tout le monde meurt, peu de gens vivent .
Je n'aime pas donner des réponses ... . Aujourd'hui, quand on donne aux gens des réponses, ils ont l'impression qu'on les prend pour des imbéciles et qu'on empiète sur leur liberté. Mon testament philosophique Citations de Jean Guitton
Je n'aime pas donner des réponses ... . Aujourd'hui, quand on donne aux gens des réponses, ils ont l'impression qu'on les prend pour des imbéciles et qu'on empiète sur leur liberté. Mon testament philosophique Citations de Jean Guitton
Normallement la compagnie doit te demander ton biller retour car si tu est reconduit a la frontiere la police ou refouler a l'arrivee la compagnie doit te ramener au pays gratuitement si tu n'a pas de vol retour.
La cie peut exiger un billet de retour - Si le passager n'a pas de visa pour entrer dans le cadre des 30 j sans visa en Thailande si son billet est au dela des 30j ou un aller simple sans billet de continuation ... avec un visa délivré au prealable par le consulat de Thailande la Cie n'a rien a demander
La cie peut exiger un billet de retour - Si le passager n'a pas de visa pour entrer dans le cadre des 30 j sans visa en Thailande si son billet est au dela des 30j ou un aller simple sans billet de continuation ... avec un visa délivré au prealable par le consulat de Thailande la Cie n'a rien a demander
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
Bonjour.
Aucun soucis, je refais régulièrement faire mon visa touriste dans différentes ambassades et on ne m'a JAMAIS demande mon billet d'avion. D'ailleurs, je ne vois pas pourquoi on nous le demanderait vu qu'on est pas oblige de rentrer en avion pour obtenir un visa. 🤪 Tout ce qu'on te demande, c'est de remplir ton formulaire et de donner 2 photos et ton passeport.
Bon voyage.
Mathilde.
Aucun soucis, je refais régulièrement faire mon visa touriste dans différentes ambassades et on ne m'a JAMAIS demande mon billet d'avion. D'ailleurs, je ne vois pas pourquoi on nous le demanderait vu qu'on est pas oblige de rentrer en avion pour obtenir un visa. 🤪 Tout ce qu'on te demande, c'est de remplir ton formulaire et de donner 2 photos et ton passeport.
Bon voyage.
Mathilde.
Dans le cas d'Emilie, il vaut mieux demander un visa non-immigrant de transit pour le premier sejour en Thailande. En ayant pris soin de se procurer au prealable, les autres visas.
Un visa sur le passeport cela devrait rassurer la compagnie aerienne au depart de Paris, qui elle, risque de faire des probleme si le passager n'a pas de visa, ni billet retour.
je ne vois pas pourquoi on nous le demanderait
On pourrait te le demander, car c'est la loi thailandaise; l'usage ne remplace pas la regle, surtout que toute demarche est "a l'appréciation" de l'immigration. issuance of visa qui dit : 2. TOURIST VISA 2. DOCUMENTS REQUIRED - Evidence of travel from Thailand (air ticket paid in full)
A Emilie de voir si cela vaut le coup de prendre le risque de tomber sur un agent d'immigration moins cool, ou une compagnie aerienne plus respectueuse des procédures.
Par ailleurs, quelqu'un qui dit qu'il vient de Paris a plus de chance d'arriver et repartir par avion, surtout que Bangkok est veut rester LE hub regional pour ce type de voyage "en marguerite" (visite successive des pays voisins de la Thailande). Tout le monde n'habite pas dans le fin fond des jungles du sud thailandais.
refouler a l'arrivee la compagnie doit te ramener au pays gratuitement
sans compter la pénalité appliquée a la compagnie fautive (de l'ordre de 20.000$).
je ne vois pas pourquoi on nous le demanderait
On pourrait te le demander, car c'est la loi thailandaise; l'usage ne remplace pas la regle, surtout que toute demarche est "a l'appréciation" de l'immigration. issuance of visa qui dit : 2. TOURIST VISA 2. DOCUMENTS REQUIRED - Evidence of travel from Thailand (air ticket paid in full)
A Emilie de voir si cela vaut le coup de prendre le risque de tomber sur un agent d'immigration moins cool, ou une compagnie aerienne plus respectueuse des procédures.
Par ailleurs, quelqu'un qui dit qu'il vient de Paris a plus de chance d'arriver et repartir par avion, surtout que Bangkok est veut rester LE hub regional pour ce type de voyage "en marguerite" (visite successive des pays voisins de la Thailande). Tout le monde n'habite pas dans le fin fond des jungles du sud thailandais.
refouler a l'arrivee la compagnie doit te ramener au pays gratuitement
sans compter la pénalité appliquée a la compagnie fautive (de l'ordre de 20.000$).
Pour tout visa touriste pour la thailande, la compagnie doit demander un billet de continuation de voyage ou un billet retour, seul les visa O, OA etc et les visa B et mariage n'en non pas besoin.
Je voyage tres souvent en thailande et j'ai un visa B et je peux dire que lorsque la personne a l'enregistrement ne la pas bien verifier elle me reclame le billet retour ou de continuation de voyage.
Je voyage tres souvent en thailande et j'ai un visa B et je peux dire que lorsque la personne a l'enregistrement ne la pas bien verifier elle me reclame le billet retour ou de continuation de voyage.
Merci à tous pour vos réponses,
effectivement, j'ai bien compris qu'il y a un risque de voyager avec un billet aller simple pour la thailande, puis de traverser chaque pays voisins par les voies terrestres,
c'est bien dommage!
en tous les cas mon projet avance, le départ aura bien lieu le 14 octobre!!
à bientot
bonjour,
je suis dans la même situation. Arrivée le 28 novembre à bangkok et le reste en bus et train, avec un billet retour 6 mois plus tard.
Je ne sais pas si ça peut t'aider mais voilà ce que nous comptons faire:
Apparemment et exeptionellement, les visas de 31 à 60 jours sont gratuits, jusqu'au 4 mars 2010 (date de demande).( et je vais quand même vérifier demain par téléphone!);
A priori si on a un visa, ils ne poserons pas de problèmes à l'embarquement. Tampis si en réalité on ne l'utilise pas... s'il est gratuit !!! 😛
http://www.thailande.free.fr/visa.php
http://www.thailande.free.fr/visa.php
mimi
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My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?