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Tout est dans le titre. C'est juste pour avoir une idée. Par curiosité.
Salaire et pouvoir d'achat d'un thai
by Duong
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Hello,
D'après ce que les thai nous disaient la moyennne est de 100 dollars par mois.
Pour info : laos : 30 dollars Vietnam : 30 dollars Cambodge : 20 dollars
Je sais plus si c'est des dollars ou des euros mais au final ca change pas trop, ca reste peu meme par rapport au cout de la vie. Au cambodge par exemple ca suffit juste pour manger ... du riz bien sur.
D'après ce que les thai nous disaient la moyennne est de 100 dollars par mois.
Pour info : laos : 30 dollars Vietnam : 30 dollars Cambodge : 20 dollars
Je sais plus si c'est des dollars ou des euros mais au final ca change pas trop, ca reste peu meme par rapport au cout de la vie. Au cambodge par exemple ca suffit juste pour manger ... du riz bien sur.
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oui mais bon qu'est ce que ca représente pour eux 100 euros ? Juste de quoi se nourir la famille, se loger ou alors c'est confortable, bon pour s'habiller correctement et partir en vacance.
Sans les fautes c mieux
Vietnam : 30 dollars
30 dollars c'est vraiment le minimum. Les gens qui acceptent ce salaire ne travaillent pas longtemps. C'est pour se dépanner, le temps de trouver mieux.
Selon ce que j'ai constaté il y a 3 mois, des salaires de 50 euros (60 dollars US) sont très fréquents, et des offres d'emploi fleurissent devant la devanture des commerces.
Je connais une qui est serveuse le matin (6 Heures) pour 75 euros par mois et couturière l'après midi pour 50 euros (4 Heures).
Je me suis étonné au début de leur pouvoir d'achat, mais je me rends compte qu'il y en a beaucoup qui cumule plusieurs emplois dans la journée.
30 dollars c'est vraiment le minimum. Les gens qui acceptent ce salaire ne travaillent pas longtemps. C'est pour se dépanner, le temps de trouver mieux.
Selon ce que j'ai constaté il y a 3 mois, des salaires de 50 euros (60 dollars US) sont très fréquents, et des offres d'emploi fleurissent devant la devanture des commerces.
Je connais une qui est serveuse le matin (6 Heures) pour 75 euros par mois et couturière l'après midi pour 50 euros (4 Heures).
Je me suis étonné au début de leur pouvoir d'achat, mais je me rends compte qu'il y en a beaucoup qui cumule plusieurs emplois dans la journée.
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Je connais une qui est serveuse le matin (6 Heures) pour 75 euros par mois et couturière l'après midi pour 50 euros (4 Heures).
Je me suis étonné au début de leur pouvoir d'achat, mais je me rends compte qu'il y en a beaucoup qui cumule plusieurs emplois dans la journée.
Et en plus il faut dire aussi que les 35 heures de travail par semaine et 2 jours de repos par semaine ils ne connaissent pas eux .
Je me suis étonné au début de leur pouvoir d'achat, mais je me rends compte qu'il y en a beaucoup qui cumule plusieurs emplois dans la journée.
Et en plus il faut dire aussi que les 35 heures de travail par semaine et 2 jours de repos par semaine ils ne connaissent pas eux .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Hello,
D'après ce que les thai nous disaient la moyennne est de 100 dollars par mois.
Pour info : laos : 30 dollars Vietnam : 30 dollars Cambodge : 20 dollars
Je sais plus si c'est des dollars ou des euros mais au final ca change pas trop, ca reste peu meme par rapport au cout de la vie. Au cambodge par exemple ca suffit juste pour manger ... du riz bien sur.
faut arreter avec les moyennes...
D'après ce que les thai nous disaient la moyennne est de 100 dollars par mois.
Pour info : laos : 30 dollars Vietnam : 30 dollars Cambodge : 20 dollars
Je sais plus si c'est des dollars ou des euros mais au final ca change pas trop, ca reste peu meme par rapport au cout de la vie. Au cambodge par exemple ca suffit juste pour manger ... du riz bien sur.
faut arreter avec les moyennes...
Bah si t'a plus explicite, te gene pas : moyenne, écart type, rmse, distribution, exemple. Mais surtout, ce que ca représente pour eux.
Dans l'hotelerie les thais on un meilleur salaire, j'en connaissent qui gagne 70.000bath par mois(tres peu de personne), en ne parlant que l'anglais et le thai, dans les grand hotel le salaire moyen pour un ou une serveuse est des 300euro par mois soit 15.000bath sans les pourboires. En thailande en general le salaire est de 6000bath, mais a partir du moment ou ceux-ci vont a l'université les salaire augmente vite. Le faite de sortir d'une unif ou d'une autre va aussi faire monté ton salaire. En thailande il y a les pauvres, les riches(j'en connais qui depensse jusqu'a 50.000bath par semaine) et une petite classe moyene.
On est son propre refuge, qui d'autre pourrait l'être. Bouddha.
Silas
Silas
Oui mais vous répondez tous à coté de la plaque. C'est quoi pauvre, riche pour eux ? Je ne pense pas que ca soit la meme définition qu'en Europe. Un pauvre au Norvege est par exemple celui qui n'a pas les moyens de partir en vacance.
y a rien de plus abstrait au monde que de parler de moyenne pour evaluer qqch
ca n'a aucun sens tout simplement
y a pas tres longtemps, on parlait debut 2006 d'un salaire moyenne de 2000 ou 2500 euros brut en france
alors si c'est une moyenne, je t'explique...
tu prends 2 personnes
une qui gagne 100000 euros et une au smic qu'on arrondit a 1000 euros tu fais la moyenne des 2 et tu affirmes ensuite que le salaire moyen est de 50500 euros...
donc qd je vois un salaire moyen de 60 euros au vietnam, ca me choque, ca ne reflete en rien la realite
faut tout simplement arreter de parler de moyenne
ca n'a aucun sens tout simplement
y a pas tres longtemps, on parlait debut 2006 d'un salaire moyenne de 2000 ou 2500 euros brut en france
alors si c'est une moyenne, je t'explique...
tu prends 2 personnes
une qui gagne 100000 euros et une au smic qu'on arrondit a 1000 euros tu fais la moyenne des 2 et tu affirmes ensuite que le salaire moyen est de 50500 euros...
donc qd je vois un salaire moyen de 60 euros au vietnam, ca me choque, ca ne reflete en rien la realite
faut tout simplement arreter de parler de moyenne
Merci enzo0511. je sais faire une moyenne. 🙂
Salut!Duong t'es pas encore parti? 😉
A plus! Lexa 🙂
A plus! Lexa 🙂
non, le mois prochain. A force de me renseigner à gauche à droite, je vais finir par connaitre super bien la thailande sans jamais y mettre le pied. C'est dingue.
Bon, les moyennes ne sont pas si mauvaises que ca. Pour essayer de te répondre je vais te donner cet exemple, tu en tireras les conclusions que tu veux :
Dans une boite que je connais qui marche bien, les salaires de base sont de 150 Euros par mois, les bons salaires de 300 Euros, les très bons de 1000 Euros.
Maintenant que tu as une idée des salaires, voici une idée du cout de la vie : cinéma : 2 Eurosbouffe pas cher : 1 EuroMc Do : 2 EurosBouffe très correct : 4 euros et +ticket de bus : 10 ct à 40 ctchambre étudiant : 80 Euros / moisSECU : inexistanteretraite : inexistantelitre d'essence : 50 ct1 coca : 24 ctchaussures de ville BATA : 12 Eurosélectronique, fringues de marques : comme en France
Donc voila, je sais pas si ca t'aide, mais bon, j'ai essayé de te répondre.
Dans une boite que je connais qui marche bien, les salaires de base sont de 150 Euros par mois, les bons salaires de 300 Euros, les très bons de 1000 Euros.
Maintenant que tu as une idée des salaires, voici une idée du cout de la vie : cinéma : 2 Eurosbouffe pas cher : 1 EuroMc Do : 2 EurosBouffe très correct : 4 euros et +ticket de bus : 10 ct à 40 ctchambre étudiant : 80 Euros / moisSECU : inexistanteretraite : inexistantelitre d'essence : 50 ct1 coca : 24 ctchaussures de ville BATA : 12 Eurosélectronique, fringues de marques : comme en France
Donc voila, je sais pas si ca t'aide, mais bon, j'ai essayé de te répondre.
Salut!bah! Figure-toi que c'est ce qui c'est passé pour moi! 😉 J'ai évité d'aller loger sur Kao San, grace aux infos, je ne l'ai pas regretté.
Les tuktuks rabatteurs pour bijouteries je les ai vu arrivé à des kilométres.En gros je leur ai dis "je connais l'arnaque".Le mec a rigolé et c'est barré.
Tu vas voir c'est tranquille, (sauf quand tu traverse la rue à Bkk). Vraiment, la thailande c'est pépére et pour tes cours de boxe thais tu vas ou?Dans le club sur Kao San? Sinon, t'as des adresses sur le Karaté bushido de ce mois-ci!Par contre tous est sur Bkk.
A plus! Lexa 😎
Tu vas voir c'est tranquille, (sauf quand tu traverse la rue à Bkk). Vraiment, la thailande c'est pépére et pour tes cours de boxe thais tu vas ou?Dans le club sur Kao San? Sinon, t'as des adresses sur le Karaté bushido de ce mois-ci!Par contre tous est sur Bkk.
A plus! Lexa 😎
je vais finir par connaitre super bien la thailande
je ne crois, pas, , les sociétés asiatiques surtout celles bouddhistes sont en constance de mouvement c'est ce qui fait leur attrait, , il est impossible de prétendre que on peut connaitre un pays, , dans la vieille Europe c'est possible car tout est si lent, Personelment, , plus ça va moins je sais, , et c'est une des raison pour laquelle je suis sur vf, , Apprendre, , pour en revenir a un salaire moyen, , c'est plus que difficile, , car les thais vivent en famille, , et rarement en couple donc il y a le partage de l'argent, , puis il n'y a pas, une économie officielle ( comme en occident ) il y a 2 économies qui vivent cote a cote et qui se côtoient, ,
les états essayent de réglementer les salaires, , come c'est dit plus haut, , 100 euros est une basse minimum, , mais comme dit kun barbot, , une serveuse peut gagner bien moins, , et les petites bonnes du laos, , dans les familles chinoises, , encore bien moins, , ( 20 euros par mois), , come quoi, , on ne peut pas faire de moyenes, ,
je ne crois, pas, , les sociétés asiatiques surtout celles bouddhistes sont en constance de mouvement c'est ce qui fait leur attrait, , il est impossible de prétendre que on peut connaitre un pays, , dans la vieille Europe c'est possible car tout est si lent, Personelment, , plus ça va moins je sais, , et c'est une des raison pour laquelle je suis sur vf, , Apprendre, , pour en revenir a un salaire moyen, , c'est plus que difficile, , car les thais vivent en famille, , et rarement en couple donc il y a le partage de l'argent, , puis il n'y a pas, une économie officielle ( comme en occident ) il y a 2 économies qui vivent cote a cote et qui se côtoient, ,
les états essayent de réglementer les salaires, , come c'est dit plus haut, , 100 euros est une basse minimum, , mais comme dit kun barbot, , une serveuse peut gagner bien moins, , et les petites bonnes du laos, , dans les familles chinoises, , encore bien moins, , ( 20 euros par mois), , come quoi, , on ne peut pas faire de moyenes, ,
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Merci d'essayer Youpi88. Mais j'imagine que les thais ont un train de vie completement différent du tiens. Ils vivent en famille, donc du coup font des économies (possible, pour faire quoi ?). Ou alors avec 100 euros, ils ne quittent jamais leur lieu de résidence. A vrai dire, autant poser la question à un thai sur place.
Je retire cette remarque. 🙂
- SECU : inexistante ?
C'est un sujet qui m'intéresse énormément.
Comment est-ce en Thailande?
Au VietNam, les salariées des entreprises ont la sécurité sociale payée par l'employeur. Les soins sont remboursés par la Sécurité Sociale. J'ai connu une qui a été hospitalisée pendant 15 jours. Elle a du payer en tout et pour tout 10 % (ce qui correspond à peu près au prix de blanchisserie de ses affaires ou à sa nourriture). Et elle a reçu 70 % de son salaire pour cette période.
C'est un sujet qui m'intéresse énormément.
Comment est-ce en Thailande?
Au VietNam, les salariées des entreprises ont la sécurité sociale payée par l'employeur. Les soins sont remboursés par la Sécurité Sociale. J'ai connu une qui a été hospitalisée pendant 15 jours. Elle a du payer en tout et pour tout 10 % (ce qui correspond à peu près au prix de blanchisserie de ses affaires ou à sa nourriture). Et elle a reçu 70 % de son salaire pour cette période.
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Merci enzo0511. je sais faire une moyenne. 🙂
c'est pour te faier comprendre qu'une moyenne ne veut rien dire, qu'il y a des disparites enormes au sein d'un meme pays, region, parfois ville
que les chiffres en donnent en rien une vision de la vie des gens
qq qui touche une certaine somme sans enfant n'aura pas la meme vie que le meme salaire avec 3 enfants a charge, et ca, c'est universel
et sinon je rejoinds Thuan, parce qu'il arrive d'entendre bcp de français dire "ah au vietnam (ou en asie), j'y vais souvent, je le connais comme ma poche ce pays" et ca me fait herisser les poils
quelle pretention...
surtout que les français ne "connaissent" meme pas la France, ce n'est pas un ou X voyages par an dans le meme pays asiatique qui permet de dire qu'on le connait et qu'on en connait les subtilites
d'autant que la perception d'un vietnamien d'un occidental et son comportement differeront d'un vietnamien envers d'un vietnamien vivant en france comme moi...
c'est pour te faier comprendre qu'une moyenne ne veut rien dire, qu'il y a des disparites enormes au sein d'un meme pays, region, parfois ville
que les chiffres en donnent en rien une vision de la vie des gens
qq qui touche une certaine somme sans enfant n'aura pas la meme vie que le meme salaire avec 3 enfants a charge, et ca, c'est universel
et sinon je rejoinds Thuan, parce qu'il arrive d'entendre bcp de français dire "ah au vietnam (ou en asie), j'y vais souvent, je le connais comme ma poche ce pays" et ca me fait herisser les poils
quelle pretention...
surtout que les français ne "connaissent" meme pas la France, ce n'est pas un ou X voyages par an dans le meme pays asiatique qui permet de dire qu'on le connait et qu'on en connait les subtilites
d'autant que la perception d'un vietnamien d'un occidental et son comportement differeront d'un vietnamien envers d'un vietnamien vivant en france comme moi...
En thailande il existe une assurance hospitalisation, maladie, ... celle ci doit etre etre payé tout les ans (10.000bath) ou bien 1000bath par mois. Elle s'appelle "Prakan tchiwit thai" elle rembourse a 100% toute hospitalisation. Je sais qu'il y a aussi un organisme qui s'occupe des penssions mais qui est tres cher.😎
On est son propre refuge, qui d'autre pourrait l'être. Bouddha.
Silas
Silas
Pour info,
Le salaire ne veut pas dire grand chose, tout depend du lieu et de l'occupation. Je m'explique: Au cambodge le salaire moyen est probablement aux alentours de 25-30 dollars par mois. Mais en fait, en ville (siem reap et phnom penh), tres peu de monde gagne moins de 70 dollars par mois. Parce qu'il faut payer son loyer, sa nourriture... A le campagne tu peux vivre avec 10 dollars par mois quand ta maison t'appartient et que tu manges le riz que tu cultives et que tu as quelques poules ou des cochons. La plupart des cambodgiens vivent dans ce cas, en quasi autarcie.
En thailande c'est un peu pareil, il y a les gens qui habitent a Bangkok et dans les grandes villes, et puis la grande majorité qui sont encore des paysans. Le salaire moyen est peut etre de 150 dollars maisil y a de grandes disparités et je dirais que si beaucoup de personnes gagnent 200 dollars (taxi a Bangkok=10 dollars par jour) et plus en ville, a la campagne beaucoup gagnent beaucoup moins mais sont nourries, logés... A mon avis, a partir de 250 dollars, tu commences a entrer dans la classe moyenne (telephone portable, tele, moto, enfants qui vont a l'ecole...) mais comme dit Kun Thuan, cela depend combien de personnes gagnent cette somme dans la famille. Les gens vivent souvent a beaucoup et tout le monde bouffe sur le salaire de ceux qui gagnent...
Avi
Le salaire ne veut pas dire grand chose, tout depend du lieu et de l'occupation. Je m'explique: Au cambodge le salaire moyen est probablement aux alentours de 25-30 dollars par mois. Mais en fait, en ville (siem reap et phnom penh), tres peu de monde gagne moins de 70 dollars par mois. Parce qu'il faut payer son loyer, sa nourriture... A le campagne tu peux vivre avec 10 dollars par mois quand ta maison t'appartient et que tu manges le riz que tu cultives et que tu as quelques poules ou des cochons. La plupart des cambodgiens vivent dans ce cas, en quasi autarcie.
En thailande c'est un peu pareil, il y a les gens qui habitent a Bangkok et dans les grandes villes, et puis la grande majorité qui sont encore des paysans. Le salaire moyen est peut etre de 150 dollars maisil y a de grandes disparités et je dirais que si beaucoup de personnes gagnent 200 dollars (taxi a Bangkok=10 dollars par jour) et plus en ville, a la campagne beaucoup gagnent beaucoup moins mais sont nourries, logés... A mon avis, a partir de 250 dollars, tu commences a entrer dans la classe moyenne (telephone portable, tele, moto, enfants qui vont a l'ecole...) mais comme dit Kun Thuan, cela depend combien de personnes gagnent cette somme dans la famille. Les gens vivent souvent a beaucoup et tout le monde bouffe sur le salaire de ceux qui gagnent...
Avi
il y a une disparite enorme entre les villes et campagnes un instit ou un policier gagnent environ 10000 bath soit 230 euro, un paysan au nord de phitsanulok dans les montagnes touche par jours 150 bats pour une journee de 8 heures en cas de maladie ou hospitalistion il sont prix en charge gratuitement dans l hopital de l etat il paye une somme derisoire, ensuite il y a l hopital pour les classes moyennes le tarif a peut 1000 bath la journnee 23 euro et ensuite a bangkok le luxe a 3000 bath
il sont prix en charge gratuitement dans l hopital de l etat il paye une somme derisoire
Exact ils payent 30 bahts et ce système est tout récent depuis deux ans et a été instauré par l'ancien premier ministre Taksin
Exact ils payent 30 bahts et ce système est tout récent depuis deux ans et a été instauré par l'ancien premier ministre Taksin
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Et les mendiants, y en a beaucoup ?
je trouvais étonnant que tu mettes cette photo. Puis on s'y fait finalement. Sinon j'avais oublié qu'il pouvait avoir des chiens labas. Les asiatiques en général ne s'encombrent pas de trop chien, si ca ne leur apporte pas grand chose. Celui-ci récolterait il plus que son maitre?? Attrape touriste donc Thuan ??
Tu va voir qu'en thailande il y a des milliers de chien qui cour la rue, quand je passe dans certains quartier je me demande si il y a pas plus de chien que d'homme. Et beaucoup de ces braves betes sont dans un etat pitoyable.....
les thai n'aiment pas bcp les chiens, moi j'en ai deja vu qui chotais dedans, volembach.....
On est son propre refuge, qui d'autre pourrait l'être. Bouddha.
Silas
Silas
Attrape touriste
attrape tout, , dans ce domaine il n'y a pas de sélection, ,
les mendiants des ponts ( ceux qui connaissent la thailande comprennent ) . se sont des gangs, , ils vivent en communauté avec son papa san ou mama san, , qui les places sur des endroits stratégiques, , (en accord moyennant monnaie avec la police )
il va de même pour les orchestres d'aveugles, ,
on peut dire en gros que, , les thais veulent garder leur dignité, , et mendier est trop dégradant, , puis il y a le système familiale tres fort, qui fait que c'est vraiment rare que on laisse faire cela, ,
mais SVP donner a ces vieux couples lao qui jouent de la musique ( en général de la flûte lao, , )
eux sont vraiment dans le besoin, , ( peut être ils n'ont pas eut d'enfants, ?? mais du a l'absence de minimum retraire
ils n'ont que cela pour vivre, ,
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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bonjour thuan,
c'est vrai ce que tu dis sur les mendiantsen thailande, ils sont dirigés par des papa san ou mama san?
moi je ne supporte pas trop la misère, cependant je ne donnes jamais en france au mendiant car je trouve qu'il y en a beaucoup qui vont se bourrer la gueule, mais en thailande surtout a bangkok, je voyais des gamins ou des vieilles personnes bien moins de mendiants qu'à paris mais celà me touchent, surtout qu'on ne se sent pas harcelé, je ne sais pas si tu connais la musique dans le métro a paris:"bonjour monsieur, madame, avez vous un ticket resto ou une piece, pour manger et me laver etc....." ou bien au mcdo les enfants et les mamans roumains qui viennent te demander de l'argent pendant que tu manges, rien à voir en thailande car les mendiants ne te harcèlent pas.
bonjour duong,
je pense que celà ne veut pas dire grand chose le salaire moyen d'un pays,
par exemple en france, j'ai regardé envoyé spécial jeudi soir, un reportage sur les pauvres en france, il y en a 7 millions qui vivent en dessous du seuil de pauvreté, càd qui ont juste de quoi vivre, un toit et se nourrir pas d'extra, pourtant les familles gagnent environ 1000 euros par mois mais avec 3 enfants c'est à peine juste, ils se privent de tout,
pour en revenir a la thailande, la plupart des gens gagnent entre 100 et 200 euros en moyenne mais je trouve qu'ils ne manquent de rien, ils ont un toit, à manger, téléphone portable etc... bien sur celà ne leur permet pas de voyager et de partir en vacances en europe, mais le niveau de vie en thailande est tout a fait correct.
autre exemple, la tunisie, le salaire est a mon avis supérieur à la thailande mais le niveau de vie me semble t-il est inférieur, en thailande on voit beaucoup de voitures neuves, téléphone portables, constructions neuves,
bien sur il y a une minorité de riche, je dirai d'ailleurs qui sont très riches, mais la grande majorité des thais ne sont pas malheureux chez eux, ils ne veulent même pas quitter la thailande pour venir travailler en europe, tout le contraire des pays pauvres comme le maghreb ou l'afrique ou bien la chine.
c'est vrai ce que tu dis sur les mendiantsen thailande, ils sont dirigés par des papa san ou mama san? '
oui ceux qui sont sur les ponts, , dont la police aussi a sa commission, ,
le problème des occidentaux n'est pas facile de voir qui est qui, , les thais eux savent tres vite, et il y a une solidarité
mais la grande majorité des thais ne sont pas malheureux chez eux, ils ne veulent même pas quitter la thailande pour venir travailler en europe
exact les thais ne s'exporte pas bien, , la raison ?, , est surtout culturelle religieuse et alimentaire, , et puis les thais en grande majorité sont content chez eux, , pourquoi aller ailleurs ??
le problème des occidentaux n'est pas facile de voir qui est qui, , les thais eux savent tres vite, et il y a une solidarité
mais la grande majorité des thais ne sont pas malheureux chez eux, ils ne veulent même pas quitter la thailande pour venir travailler en europe
exact les thais ne s'exporte pas bien, , la raison ?, , est surtout culturelle religieuse et alimentaire, , et puis les thais en grande majorité sont content chez eux, , pourquoi aller ailleurs ??
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Duong
je veux vraiment pas etre mechant ou quoi
mais je comprends pas tes questions... as tu l'intention de vaincre la pauvrete en asie ?
je pense que tu devrais passer tout simplement du temps en thailande, ca te permettra d'aller au dela des reponses et des interrogations...
je veux vraiment pas etre mechant ou quoi
mais je comprends pas tes questions... as tu l'intention de vaincre la pauvrete en asie ?
je pense que tu devrais passer tout simplement du temps en thailande, ca te permettra d'aller au dela des reponses et des interrogations...
Tu as raison de ne pas vouloir parler de moyenne lorsqu'il s'agit de 2 personnes mais lorsque tu es sur une représentation de plusieurs millions c'est plus significatif.
Si tu veux te représenter le coût de la vie d'un pays c'est une bonne base ou du moins cela te donne un ordre de grandeur.
De toute manière lorsque tu demandes à un local le salaire moyen, il te donnera ce que gagne la majorité des gens.
De toute manière lorsque tu demandes à un local le salaire moyen, il te donnera ce que gagne la majorité des gens.
Partout les gens nous disent: "n'allez pas si vite, restez!" Mais, nous seul, savons ce qui nous reste à voir.
Mais qu'est ce que vous racontez ???? J'ai jamais rien dit de tel. Arretez de faire de supposition, et à retracer mes pensées dans chacunes de mes phrases. Je vais en Thailande fin mai. J'aime bien fouiner partout à la recherche d'information, et autant que de découvrir. En général, on ne voit que ce que l'on veut voir en vacance. Je rajouterai que j'aime bien ce débat. Ce n'est pas de ma faute si vous vous fixez au problème du salaire. Le sujet c'est "salaire et pouvoir d'achat d'un thai". J'entend par pouvoir d'achat : portable, acces à l'information, aux deplacements, achat de maison ...
C'est peut etre évident pour toi. Mais moi j'en sais absolument rien.
De toute manière lorsque tu demandes à un local le salaire moyen, il te donnera ce que gagne la majorité des gens.
Ce que gagne la majorité des gens ça s'appelle le salaire médian et non le salaire moyen.
Le salaire médian est le salaire auquel la moitié des gens ont un salaire inférieur. En France le salaire médian est de 1484 Euros. Il en dise beaucoup plus que la moyenne des salaires, qui est la somme des salaires divisée par le nombre des gens. Plus la disparité des salaires est grande, plus le salaire moyen ne veut rien dire.
Au VietNam, le salaire médian est de 100 Euros.
Faites un calcul pour savoir si la moitié des vietnamiens ne vit pas mieux que la moitié des français, en tenant compte du coût de la vie!
Ce que gagne la majorité des gens ça s'appelle le salaire médian et non le salaire moyen.
Le salaire médian est le salaire auquel la moitié des gens ont un salaire inférieur. En France le salaire médian est de 1484 Euros. Il en dise beaucoup plus que la moyenne des salaires, qui est la somme des salaires divisée par le nombre des gens. Plus la disparité des salaires est grande, plus le salaire moyen ne veut rien dire.
Au VietNam, le salaire médian est de 100 Euros.
Faites un calcul pour savoir si la moitié des vietnamiens ne vit pas mieux que la moitié des français, en tenant compte du coût de la vie!
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Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
J'suis désolé si mes questions t'agacent et te semblent ridicules alors. Tu n'es pas tenu de les lire, ni de répondre.
ecoutes les apriori ca me choque surtout sur l'asie surtout qd je lis des trucs de ta part du genre:
je trouvais étonnant que tu mettes cette photo. Puis on s'y fait finalement. Sinon j'avais oublié qu'il pouvait avoir des chiens labas. Les asiatiques en général ne s'encombrent pas de trop chien, si ca ne leur apporte pas grand chose. Celui-ci récolterait il plus que son maitre?? Attrape touriste donc Thuan ??
ca peut te paraitre mechant de ma part, mais je trouve que les questions de ce genre sont toutes aussi pertinentes que de demander si les africains ont faim ou s'il fait sec dans le desert
il ne faut pas etre un genie pour connaitre des choses sur les pays d'asie qui ont jusqu'alors ete consideres comme encore tiers monde ou pays en voie de developpement
je trouvais étonnant que tu mettes cette photo. Puis on s'y fait finalement. Sinon j'avais oublié qu'il pouvait avoir des chiens labas. Les asiatiques en général ne s'encombrent pas de trop chien, si ca ne leur apporte pas grand chose. Celui-ci récolterait il plus que son maitre?? Attrape touriste donc Thuan ??
ca peut te paraitre mechant de ma part, mais je trouve que les questions de ce genre sont toutes aussi pertinentes que de demander si les africains ont faim ou s'il fait sec dans le desert
il ne faut pas etre un genie pour connaitre des choses sur les pays d'asie qui ont jusqu'alors ete consideres comme encore tiers monde ou pays en voie de developpement
Je ne vois pas de quoi tu parles. Si c'est le "général" qui te gene, je rajouterais pour t'énerver : - en général les asiatiques parlent facilement de leurs salaires - en général, le sexe est un sujet tabou pour les asiatiques - en général, le lien familial asiatique est plus important que tout - en général, les asiats ne comprennent pas pourquoi ils sont boudhistes. - en général, les parents asiats sont plus protecteurs Et j'en ai pleins de questions aussi débiles les uns que les autres qui j'espère t'agaceraient encore plus: - les thais claquent ils leur argent en boite, bar, sorties ? - les thais préfèrent ils la plage ou la montagne ? - les femmes thais sont elles plus mignonnes que les autres femmes asiatiques ? - est ce que les thais ont l'enzyme pour découper l'alcool ? Enfin bon, tu peux etre méchant si tu veux. Ca me derange pas. C'est un forum. Je suis un génie et je ne connais rien des pays d'asie. Excuse moi mon ignorance. Mais tu as plus d'a priori que moi. 
Ps : faudrait m'apprendre à utiliser la mise en page ici. ca ne marche jamais. Signé l'idiot du village
Ps : faudrait m'apprendre à utiliser la mise en page ici. ca ne marche jamais. Signé l'idiot du villageJe ne vois pas de quoi tu parles. Si c'est le "général" qui te gene, je rajouterais pour t'énerver : - en général les asiatiques parlent facilement de leurs salaires - en général, le sexe est un sujet tabou pour les asiatiques - en général, le lien familial asiatique est plus important que tout - en général, les asiats ne comprennent pas pourquoi ils sont boudhistes. - en général, les parents asiats sont plus protecteurs Et j'en ai pleins de questions aussi débiles les uns que les autres qui j'espère t'agaceraient encore plus: - les thais claquent ils leur argent en boite, bar, sorties ? - les thais préfèrent ils la plage ou la montagne ? - les femmes thais sont elles plus mignonnes que les autres femmes asiatiques ? - est ce que les thais ont l'enzyme pour découper l'alcool ? Enfin bon, tu peux etre méchant si tu veux. Ca me derange pas. C'est un forum. Je suis un génie et je ne connais rien des pays d'asie. Excuse moi mon ignorance. Mais tu as plus d'a priori que moi. Ps : faudrait m'apprendre à utiliser la mise en page ici. ca ne marche jamais. Signé l'idiot du village
Ca tombe bien j adore repondre aux questions debiles Non les thai n aiment pas parler de leur salaire ni meme de tout ce qui touche le privee et lepersonel . Oui on ne parle pas de sexe pour les meme raisons Oui meme si un Thai s embrouille en permanance avec sa famille il lui reste fidele jusqu a la mort les liens familliaux sont plus fort qu en occident Bonne question l interpretation que le Thai fais du boudhisme est tres particuliere . Mais son attachement a Boudha est surrement le meme que celui d un catholique ou d un musulman a leur Dieu ou Prophete respectif Oui les Thai sont surement plus protecteur Oui les thai sont depensier et flambent meme quand ils ont peu il suffit de voir leur passion pour les jeux d argent Voir la neige en vrai est un reve que font beaucoup de Thai voila je crois avoir rien ou presque oublier
Sinon pour revenir a la question de depart Salaire et pouvoir d achats A salaire bas, faible pouvoir d achat et c est une evidence . . Dans sa grande moyenne le Thailandais vie au jour le jour sans vraimment se preoccuer du lendemain . Avoir de l argent aujourd hui c est bien ...pas grave si ily en as plus le lendemain il y en auras plus tard . Bien evidement qu ilexiste des gens sans grande ressource mais on les vois pas . C est dee toutes facon mal venu de parler de ses problemes en publique alors venir dire j ai pas d argent et j ai faim meme le plus pauvres ne le feras pas . Pour revenir sur les jeunes marchands de fleur ou autre babiole et autre faiseur de quetes dans les quartiers touristiques C est effectivement gere par la mafia . Heureusement certains finisse derriere les barreaux la police devant quand meme faire montre de resultat. Le meilleur moyen de lutter efficacement contre une tel exploitation c est de refuser tout achat ou tout don en agent . Le faire ce n est qu encourager un tel bisness
Ps : faudrait m'apprendre à utiliser la mise en page ici. ca ne marche jamais. Signé l'idiot du villageCa tombe bien j adore repondre aux questions debiles Non les thai n aiment pas parler de leur salaire ni meme de tout ce qui touche le privee et lepersonel . Oui on ne parle pas de sexe pour les meme raisons Oui meme si un Thai s embrouille en permanance avec sa famille il lui reste fidele jusqu a la mort les liens familliaux sont plus fort qu en occident Bonne question l interpretation que le Thai fais du boudhisme est tres particuliere . Mais son attachement a Boudha est surrement le meme que celui d un catholique ou d un musulman a leur Dieu ou Prophete respectif Oui les Thai sont surement plus protecteur Oui les thai sont depensier et flambent meme quand ils ont peu il suffit de voir leur passion pour les jeux d argent Voir la neige en vrai est un reve que font beaucoup de Thai voila je crois avoir rien ou presque oublier
Sinon pour revenir a la question de depart Salaire et pouvoir d achats A salaire bas, faible pouvoir d achat et c est une evidence . . Dans sa grande moyenne le Thailandais vie au jour le jour sans vraimment se preoccuer du lendemain . Avoir de l argent aujourd hui c est bien ...pas grave si ily en as plus le lendemain il y en auras plus tard . Bien evidement qu ilexiste des gens sans grande ressource mais on les vois pas . C est dee toutes facon mal venu de parler de ses problemes en publique alors venir dire j ai pas d argent et j ai faim meme le plus pauvres ne le feras pas . Pour revenir sur les jeunes marchands de fleur ou autre babiole et autre faiseur de quetes dans les quartiers touristiques C est effectivement gere par la mafia . Heureusement certains finisse derriere les barreaux la police devant quand meme faire montre de resultat. Le meilleur moyen de lutter efficacement contre une tel exploitation c est de refuser tout achat ou tout don en agent . Le faire ce n est qu encourager un tel bisness
La vie c est cmme une patisserie on peux la regader sans cesse mais pour connaitre ces saveurs il la faut croquer... les gens sont seuls parce qu'ils construisent des murs au lieu de construire des ponts
🙂
salut,
bien repondu yoyothai...
la thailande comme tous les autres pays se decouvre en s'y laissant porter. je crois que c'est aussi simple que ca... regarder, fouiner, flaner.... je comprend que l'on se pose milles et unes questions et ce n'est aps cette attitude relativement saine que je critiquerai...surtout lorsque je me revois les derniers mois avant mon premier depart pour bangkok, fouinant la moindre carte, le moindre indice, notant les moeurs aux antipodes des miennes et des horaires de bateau.... tout ca pour me rendre compte que Tout s'apprend lorsque l'on y vit. ou que l'on y flane.....
la thailande comme le reste de l'asie est tellement loin des generalités que l'on entend ici en metropole. parfois cela me fais sourire, parfois cela m'exaspere.
juste pour revenir a la question des chiens... a part dans les rues de bangkok ou tant de chiens grouillent misereux (mais pas detester), je n'ai jamais vu autant d'amour pour ces animaux ailleur que la bas. c'est mon avis......et pour avoir des toutous thai et bourlinguer avec, j'ai pu faire la comparaison. hors de la monnaie d'echange et d'appitoiement aux ponts du skytrain, je crois que les thais sont relativement respectueux de ces animaux. c'est une impression en tout cas..... les thais m'ont paru parfois detachés mais rarement indifferent... bref c'est pas le sujet m'enfin je voulais donner mon ptit point de vue... bonne soirée à tous
bien repondu yoyothai...
la thailande comme tous les autres pays se decouvre en s'y laissant porter. je crois que c'est aussi simple que ca... regarder, fouiner, flaner.... je comprend que l'on se pose milles et unes questions et ce n'est aps cette attitude relativement saine que je critiquerai...surtout lorsque je me revois les derniers mois avant mon premier depart pour bangkok, fouinant la moindre carte, le moindre indice, notant les moeurs aux antipodes des miennes et des horaires de bateau.... tout ca pour me rendre compte que Tout s'apprend lorsque l'on y vit. ou que l'on y flane.....
la thailande comme le reste de l'asie est tellement loin des generalités que l'on entend ici en metropole. parfois cela me fais sourire, parfois cela m'exaspere.
juste pour revenir a la question des chiens... a part dans les rues de bangkok ou tant de chiens grouillent misereux (mais pas detester), je n'ai jamais vu autant d'amour pour ces animaux ailleur que la bas. c'est mon avis......et pour avoir des toutous thai et bourlinguer avec, j'ai pu faire la comparaison. hors de la monnaie d'echange et d'appitoiement aux ponts du skytrain, je crois que les thais sont relativement respectueux de ces animaux. c'est une impression en tout cas..... les thais m'ont paru parfois detachés mais rarement indifferent... bref c'est pas le sujet m'enfin je voulais donner mon ptit point de vue... bonne soirée à tous
"not all who wander are lost"
Oh non non helas tous les thais n aiment pas les chiens si dans leur majorite ils le respectent comme un etre vivant cela reste a leur yeux un animal . En plus celui n est ni porte bonheur ni meme se mange . Sans grande utilite pour un Thai helas.
Bon c est sans parler de l influance occidentale et aujourd hui tres tendance avoir un chien de pure race
Comme je le dis sur un autre post il est difficile de savoir ce qu aime ou n aime pas un Thailandais vous seriez meme mal venus de lui poser la question le mettant helas dans l embarras ...Thai rak Thai
La vie c est cmme une patisserie on peux la regader sans cesse mais pour connaitre ces saveurs il la faut croquer... les gens sont seuls parce qu'ils construisent des murs au lieu de construire des ponts
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After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise