Situation d'affrontements à Bangkok: impact en province? (11 avril 2010)
by Bebka
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour a tous,
je dois absoluement retrouver qulqu'un sur Bangkok
mardi matin, pour partir dans le nord dans la foulée.
Je sais bien qu'entre temps cela peut continuer a dégénérer
mais je n'ai pas le choix Que de passer par la capitale.
Qulqu'un sur place peut m'en dire plus sur la situation A Bangkok, si il y a toujours des affrontements ?
Et si qulqu'un pouvait me dire si cela a un impacte en province dansle nord et sud ?
Je vous remercie d'avance.
AUCUN impact dans le Sud ...
(sinon une diminution du nombre des touristes)
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Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Samedi soir, la mairie de Chiang Mai était occupée par les manifestants.
Mais aucune violence.
A suivre
Très cordialement
Maddy
Maddy
je dois absoluement retrouver qulqu'un sur Bangkok
mardi matin, pour partir dans le nord dans la foulée
il y a actuellement une petite treve de nouvel an , donc je crois que tu peux passer en travers de la guerre. Bangkok aura des manifestations pour les morts et blesses des rouges , beaucoup de procession , ceremonie , mouvement de foule. Comme il y a la treve de nouvel an a bangkok , il y a pas de probleme a chiang mai pendant la treve. Si la treve est rompue , alors la🏴☠️
il y a actuellement une petite treve de nouvel an , donc je crois que tu peux passer en travers de la guerre. Bangkok aura des manifestations pour les morts et blesses des rouges , beaucoup de procession , ceremonie , mouvement de foule. Comme il y a la treve de nouvel an a bangkok , il y a pas de probleme a chiang mai pendant la treve. Si la treve est rompue , alors la🏴☠️
Mai Pen Rai Krap
Faut pas s en soucier
TREVE DE NOUVEL AN A BANGKOK
😏 pratunam marché ouvert , tu pourra y acheter de la protection personnel , voir gilet parre balle , casque , et masque a gaz
y'a aussi des grenades du cambodge en vente a 150baths/piece...... bien sur , l'etats de rouille ou de conservation n'est pas preciser ni garanti ;p
😏 pratunam marché ouvert , tu pourra y acheter de la protection personnel , voir gilet parre balle , casque , et masque a gaz
y'a aussi des grenades du cambodge en vente a 150baths/piece...... bien sur , l'etats de rouille ou de conservation n'est pas preciser ni garanti ;p
Il y a aussi la nouvelle compagnie de taxi qui fait fureur :
Tank taxi service, des tanks taxi meter, un peu lent mais au moins on se sent protégé.
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Tank taxi service, des tanks taxi meter, un peu lent mais au moins on se sent protégé.
.bonjour a vous
je me tiens informé chaque jours avec des contazcts que j'ai sur place aussi bien sur bangkok que sur une des provinces a 300km au nord region de phetchabun
pour autant que je sache , aussi bien sur la capitales les personnes du crû ont beaucoup de crainte d'avoir à sortir et se déplacer et de se retrouver mêlées involontairement aux évènements
et pour ce qui est des régions excentrées a la capitale , il semble qu'un climat d'insécurité règne actuellement d'une facon plus ou moins généralisée car les affrontements sur la capitale sont reproduits a l'identique dans les zones éloignées et même s il n'y a pas de manif , de nombreux trouble a l'ordre sont à noter avec des aggressions et même certains méfaits tels qu aggressions viols
aux dernieres nouvelles , il semblerait que le fait de discuter a plusieurs dans un lieu public serait désormais interdit et sanctionné !!!
j'ai été a plusieurs reprises ces derniers mois , et je n'avais pas percu autant de crainte auparavant que ces jours derniers
salutations a vous
amicalement
Bonjour
Je suis actuellement à Bangkok. Hier, je me suis promené toute la journée à Bangkok dans l'hypercentre : quartier d'affaires : Sathon, Sala Deng, Sukhumvit, Victory Monument. Dans ces quartiers, la situation est tout ce qu'il y a de normale. Aucun problème à signaler. Beaucoup de familles déambulaient tout à fait normalement dans ces quartiers. Par contre, les grands magasins tels que Central World, Siam Paragon, .... sont toujours fermés à cause des manifestations qui perdurent. Bien sûr, lorsqu'on se promène dans ces quartiers, il faut savoir rester prudent et faire preuve de bon sens. Les lignes de Skytrain étaient fermés tandis que celle du "subway était ouverte. Si vous avez besoin, n'hésitez pas à me contacter. En tout état de cause, il est très facile d'éviter les quartiers où se trouvent les manifestants puisque'ils se limitent à quelques quartiers de Bangkok. Dans le quartier où je réside (Rachada) à quelques encablures de Sukumvit, le quartier des Hôtels, je n'ai vu absolument aucune manifestation depuis le début du mouvement, excepté devant l'ambassade de Chine, ce qui pour le coup n'avait rien à voir avec les rouges. Toujours est-il que les derniers évènements en date ont permis aux généraux d'asseoir leur pouvoir pour défendre les intérêts des mieux lotis et montrer l'autoritarisme du premier ministre.
Je suis actuellement à Bangkok. Hier, je me suis promené toute la journée à Bangkok dans l'hypercentre : quartier d'affaires : Sathon, Sala Deng, Sukhumvit, Victory Monument. Dans ces quartiers, la situation est tout ce qu'il y a de normale. Aucun problème à signaler. Beaucoup de familles déambulaient tout à fait normalement dans ces quartiers. Par contre, les grands magasins tels que Central World, Siam Paragon, .... sont toujours fermés à cause des manifestations qui perdurent. Bien sûr, lorsqu'on se promène dans ces quartiers, il faut savoir rester prudent et faire preuve de bon sens. Les lignes de Skytrain étaient fermés tandis que celle du "subway était ouverte. Si vous avez besoin, n'hésitez pas à me contacter. En tout état de cause, il est très facile d'éviter les quartiers où se trouvent les manifestants puisque'ils se limitent à quelques quartiers de Bangkok. Dans le quartier où je réside (Rachada) à quelques encablures de Sukumvit, le quartier des Hôtels, je n'ai vu absolument aucune manifestation depuis le début du mouvement, excepté devant l'ambassade de Chine, ce qui pour le coup n'avait rien à voir avec les rouges. Toujours est-il que les derniers évènements en date ont permis aux généraux d'asseoir leur pouvoir pour défendre les intérêts des mieux lotis et montrer l'autoritarisme du premier ministre.
SITUATION A MIDI LUNDI
procession de milliers de personnes en voiture , pick up montrant les cerceuils des victimes a la population.
passe a midi sukhumvit ekamai petchaburi. puis ratchada , bref un peu partout en ville
Salut Waithai, C'est du cinéma, les cercueils sont vides. Les corps sont à la morgue pour autopsie! http://www.nationmultimedia.com/...ed-2pm-30127067.html
procession de milliers de personnes en voiture , pick up montrant les cerceuils des victimes a la population.
passe a midi sukhumvit ekamai petchaburi. puis ratchada , bref un peu partout en ville
Salut Waithai, C'est du cinéma, les cercueils sont vides. Les corps sont à la morgue pour autopsie! http://www.nationmultimedia.com/...ed-2pm-30127067.html
"Quand l'injustice devient loi, la rébellion devient devoir. " Thomas Jefferson
« Le doute est l’apanage des gens intelligents, les cons n’ont que des certitudes »
(Alain Leblay)
Dans le quartier où je réside (Rachada) à quelques encablures de Sukumvit, le quartier des
😄 oui ratchada est le las vegas de bangkok , les salons de massages et les touriste korean , chinois , n ont aucun interet pour une manifestation comme point strategique. D ailleurs koa san non plus etait consideré comme dangereux , attention les salon de massage sur ratchda appartienne aux democrates en place.
😄 oui ratchada est le las vegas de bangkok , les salons de massages et les touriste korean , chinois , n ont aucun interet pour une manifestation comme point strategique. D ailleurs koa san non plus etait consideré comme dangereux , attention les salon de massage sur ratchda appartienne aux democrates en place.
Mai Pen Rai Krap
Faut pas s en soucier
RETOUR AU CALME !!!!!!!!
le fait qu un journaliste japonnais est parmi les victimes va entrainer le processus de la paix.
La perte de face thai , commence a se faire voir , on commence a trouver tout les excuses pour le meutre du japonnais , coté militaire en tout cas c est pas eux , et si ne n est pas les rouges , bien se sera les autres qu on ne connait pas encore.Donc c est un homme invisible a qui a tuer le japonnais.
le fait qu un journaliste japonnais est parmi les victimes va entrainer le processus de la paix.
La perte de face thai , commence a se faire voir , on commence a trouver tout les excuses pour le meutre du japonnais , coté militaire en tout cas c est pas eux , et si ne n est pas les rouges , bien se sera les autres qu on ne connait pas encore.Donc c est un homme invisible a qui a tuer le japonnais.
Mai Pen Rai Krap
Faut pas s en soucier
Il y a aussi le quartier de Sanam Luang Khlongs, avec les surplus militaires, est ce ouvert?
tenues kakis et tutti quanti.......................casques..........
Apr 12 Red Coffin Parade in BangkokDaily Photos from Thailand Monday 12th April, 2010 at 15:43:13| Words: 55 words | Category: News Photos
Anti-government supporters attend a funeral procession on Monday April 12, 2010 in Bangkok, Thailand. Red Shirts protesters paraded coffins and portraits of victims through the Thai capital Monday following a weekend of savage street fighting. (AP)
Apr 12 Red Coffin Parade in BangkokDaily Photos from Thailand Monday 12th April, 2010 at 15:43:13| Words: 55 words | Category: News Photos
Anti-government supporters attend a funeral procession on Monday April 12, 2010 in Bangkok, Thailand. Red Shirts protesters paraded coffins and portraits of victims through the Thai capital Monday following a weekend of savage street fighting. (AP)Hello Sir Waithai,
Songkarn festival hop c'est parti....................... pendant ces 3 jours, comme chaque année.......et encore combien de morts?
Songkran Starts on Khao San RoadDaily Photos from Thailand
Monday 12th April, 2010 at 16:30:33| Words: 51 words | Category: News Photos
An elephant sprays water on tourists during the Songkran festival on Khao San road in Bangkok April 12, 2010. The Songkran festival marks the start of the new year in the traditional Thai calendar. (Reuters)
Tourists spray water on each other during the Songkran festival on Khao San road in Bangkok April 12, 2010. (Reuters)
An elephant sprays water on tourists during the Songkran festival on Khao San road in Bangkok April 12, 2010. The Songkran festival marks the start of the new year in the traditional Thai calendar. (Reuters)
Tourists spray water on each other during the Songkran festival on Khao San road in Bangkok April 12, 2010. (Reuters)Affirmatif j'avais oublié de préciser........hélas en 2009.........
April 16, 2009 3:13 am BANGKOK, April 15 — The number of road accident victims throughout Thailand during the first five days of the most dangerous seven day peak period of the Songkran festival, Thailand’s traditional New Year, rose to 272 fatalities with 3,375 people injured, a senior Education Ministry official said Wednesday. //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
April 16, 2009 3:13 am BANGKOK, April 15 — The number of road accident victims throughout Thailand during the first five days of the most dangerous seven day peak period of the Songkran festival, Thailand’s traditional New Year, rose to 272 fatalities with 3,375 people injured, a senior Education Ministry official said Wednesday. //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Oui les groupes comme Carlyle, qui soutiennent Thaksin sont les même qui soutenais Ravalomana à Madagascar, même propagande, même technique de division du peuple, même interet, mais Abishit est mieux que Ratsiraka, et lors des operations à Mada ils avaient fais venir des renforts de missionnaire batiste américains pour monter le peuple contre Ratsiraka, là ils sont dans un pays Bouddhiste et si ils ont reussi a corrompre certains, la plus haute autorité religieuse est contre la participation des moines dans ces manifestations.
Si ils arrivent à mettre au pouvoir Thaksin ils aurons la même déception que les malgache, mais que veux tu, c'est si facile de manipuler le peuple.
Il y a un an lors des manifestations, Thaksin avait fait croire que les militaires avaient tué pleins de chemise rouge ce qui avait accentuer les violences, mais le bain de sang tant espéré n'avait pas eu lieu et on a appris par la suite que c'était des mensonges. Cette année ils étaient mieux préparé et ont fait ce qu'il fallait...
Pauvre Thailande, un si beau pays, enfin grace à la crise que cela provoque pour l'économie Thai, si Thaksin arrive au pouvoir, ses sponsor pourront racheter les entreprise thai à bas prix et Thaksin dira qu'il n'a eu d'autre choix que de les privatiser pour surmonter la crise!
Et Mosanto pourra reprendre ces travaux sur le riz transgénique, les chemises rouges de l'Issan en seront les premières victimes, malheureusement !
Il y a un an lors des manifestations, Thaksin avait fait croire que les militaires avaient tué pleins de chemise rouge ce qui avait accentuer les violences, mais le bain de sang tant espéré n'avait pas eu lieu et on a appris par la suite que c'était des mensonges. Cette année ils étaient mieux préparé et ont fait ce qu'il fallait...
Pauvre Thailande, un si beau pays, enfin grace à la crise que cela provoque pour l'économie Thai, si Thaksin arrive au pouvoir, ses sponsor pourront racheter les entreprise thai à bas prix et Thaksin dira qu'il n'a eu d'autre choix que de les privatiser pour surmonter la crise!
Et Mosanto pourra reprendre ces travaux sur le riz transgénique, les chemises rouges de l'Issan en seront les premières victimes, malheureusement !
Mai Pen Rai Krap
Faut pas s en soucier
http://www.youtube.com/...ELnY&feature=fvw
Oui les groupes comme Carlyle, qui soutiennent Thaksin sont les même qui soutenais Ravalomana à Madagascar, même propagande, même technique de division du peuple, même interet, mais Abishit est mieux que Ratsiraka, et lors des operations à Mada ils avaient fais venir des renforts de missionnaire batiste américains pour monter le peuple contre Ratsiraka, là ils sont dans un pays Bouddhiste et si ils ont reussi a corrompre certains, la plus haute autorité religieuse est contre la participation des moines dans ces manifestations. Si ils arrivent à mettre au pouvoir Thaksin ils aurons la même déception que les malgache, mais que veux tu, c'est si facile de manipuler le peuple.
Il y a un an lors des manifestations, Thaksin avait fait croire que les militaires avaient tué pleins de chemise rouge ce qui avait accentuer les violences, mais le bain de sang tant espéré n'avait pas eu lieu et on a appris par la suite que c'était des mensonges. Cette année ils étaient mieux préparé et ont fait ce qu'il fallait...
Pauvre Thailande, un si beau pays, enfin grace à la crise que cela provoque pour l'économie Thai, si Thaksin arrive au pouvoir, ses sponsor pourront racheter les entreprise thai à bas prix et Thaksin dira qu'il n'a eu d'autre choix que de les privatiser pour surmonter la crise!
Et Mosanto pourra reprendre ces travaux sur le riz transgénique, les chemises rouges de l'Issan en seront les premières victimes, malheureusement !
Oui les groupes comme Carlyle, qui soutiennent Thaksin sont les même qui soutenais Ravalomana à Madagascar, même propagande, même technique de division du peuple, même interet, mais Abishit est mieux que Ratsiraka, et lors des operations à Mada ils avaient fais venir des renforts de missionnaire batiste américains pour monter le peuple contre Ratsiraka, là ils sont dans un pays Bouddhiste et si ils ont reussi a corrompre certains, la plus haute autorité religieuse est contre la participation des moines dans ces manifestations. Si ils arrivent à mettre au pouvoir Thaksin ils aurons la même déception que les malgache, mais que veux tu, c'est si facile de manipuler le peuple.
Il y a un an lors des manifestations, Thaksin avait fait croire que les militaires avaient tué pleins de chemise rouge ce qui avait accentuer les violences, mais le bain de sang tant espéré n'avait pas eu lieu et on a appris par la suite que c'était des mensonges. Cette année ils étaient mieux préparé et ont fait ce qu'il fallait...
Pauvre Thailande, un si beau pays, enfin grace à la crise que cela provoque pour l'économie Thai, si Thaksin arrive au pouvoir, ses sponsor pourront racheter les entreprise thai à bas prix et Thaksin dira qu'il n'a eu d'autre choix que de les privatiser pour surmonter la crise!
Et Mosanto pourra reprendre ces travaux sur le riz transgénique, les chemises rouges de l'Issan en seront les premières victimes, malheureusement !
Quand l'eau baisse les fourmis mangent les poissons; quand l'eau monte les poissons mangent les fourmis.
Il n'y a que le changement qui ne change pas.
bonjour desoler de vous demander conseil nous somme a kata et nous arrivons a bangkok le 15 pour 3 jour a kosanroad hotel new siam reverside ont voudrais aller faire les dernier achat a chatuchan et pratunan vous penser que ces bon merci de votre reponse
mandarine
Bonjour
j'imagine que vous voulez dire Chatutak Market ou JJ Market , le grand marché du week end . Aucun problème franchement pour ce marché, je n'ai vu jamais vu les manifestants de ce côté, ils n'aucun intérêts à manifester de ce côté. Quant à Patunam, les dernières manifestations ont débordé jusque dans ce quartier. Bien qu'il n'y a eu aucun débordément à cet endroit, ce magasin a toutefois été fermé quelques jours en guise de précaution, juste vérifier s'il est réouvert.
j'imagine que vous voulez dire Chatutak Market ou JJ Market , le grand marché du week end . Aucun problème franchement pour ce marché, je n'ai vu jamais vu les manifestants de ce côté, ils n'aucun intérêts à manifester de ce côté. Quant à Patunam, les dernières manifestations ont débordé jusque dans ce quartier. Bien qu'il n'y a eu aucun débordément à cet endroit, ce magasin a toutefois été fermé quelques jours en guise de précaution, juste vérifier s'il est réouvert.
j'imagine que vous voulez dire Chatutak Market ou JJ Market , le grand marché du week end . Aucun problème franchement
pour ce marché, je n'ai vu jamais vu les manifestants de ce côté, ils n'aucun intérêts à manifester de ce côté.
Quant à Patunam, les dernières manifestations ont débordé jusque dans ce quartier. Bien qu'il n'y a eu aucun débordément à cet endroit, ce magasin a toutefois été fermé quelques jours en guise de précaution, juste vérifier s'il est réouvert.
je ne peux pas vous laisser raconter n importe quoi. Mercredi 14 Avril 2OHOO , tout le secteur pratunam jusqu a silom ploenchit , lumpini park , va etre declare zone interdite pour les etrangers. faut suivre les actualites.
et pour le chatutak et autres les jaunes commence a sortir , ils ne sont que trois milles pour le moment et ca commence a rangsit , le 18 Avril , puis direction ? devinez ? direction pour ou?
je ne peux pas vous laisser raconter n importe quoi. Mercredi 14 Avril 2OHOO , tout le secteur pratunam jusqu a silom ploenchit , lumpini park , va etre declare zone interdite pour les etrangers. faut suivre les actualites.
et pour le chatutak et autres les jaunes commence a sortir , ils ne sont que trois milles pour le moment et ca commence a rangsit , le 18 Avril , puis direction ? devinez ? direction pour ou?
Mai Pen Rai Krap
Faut pas s en soucier
Sinon au niveau de la situation.......?
http://www.youtube.com/...ture=player_embedded#
Apr 13 Reds Stop to Play SongkranDaily Photos from Thailand Tuesday 13th April, 2010 at 23:45:32| Words: 159 words | Category: News Photos
BANGKOK, THAILAND - APRIL 13: Red shirt anti-government protesters celebrate the first of three days of Songkran New Year festival amid the political turmoil of weeks of protests and more recently, clashes with the Thai military, at Ratchaprasong on April 13, 2010 in Bangkok, Thailand. Thailand's foreign minister Kasit Piromya ruled out any immediate role for ousted former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra at a global nuclear summit in Washington last night, with US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton urging Thailand to instead embrace reconciliation. (Getty Images)
http://fr.euronews.net/nocomment/2010/04/14/festival-de-leau-a-bangkok/
An anti-government 'Red Shirt' protester sprinkles water on an abandoned army vehicle during celebrations of the Songkran festival marking the Thai new year, at Democracy monument, the re-occupied site of fierce street battles between protesters and the army at the week-end, in Bangkok on April 13, 2010. The Thai authorities will allow 'Red Shirt' protesters to keep up their rallies in Bangkok for months if they do not use violence, Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban said. (Getty Images)
Apr 13 Reds Stop to Play SongkranDaily Photos from Thailand Tuesday 13th April, 2010 at 23:45:32| Words: 159 words | Category: News Photos
BANGKOK, THAILAND - APRIL 13: Red shirt anti-government protesters celebrate the first of three days of Songkran New Year festival amid the political turmoil of weeks of protests and more recently, clashes with the Thai military, at Ratchaprasong on April 13, 2010 in Bangkok, Thailand. Thailand's foreign minister Kasit Piromya ruled out any immediate role for ousted former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra at a global nuclear summit in Washington last night, with US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton urging Thailand to instead embrace reconciliation. (Getty Images)http://fr.euronews.net/nocomment/2010/04/14/festival-de-leau-a-bangkok/
An anti-government 'Red Shirt' protester sprinkles water on an abandoned army vehicle during celebrations of the Songkran festival marking the Thai new year, at Democracy monument, the re-occupied site of fierce street battles between protesters and the army at the week-end, in Bangkok on April 13, 2010. The Thai authorities will allow 'Red Shirt' protesters to keep up their rallies in Bangkok for months if they do not use violence, Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban said. (Getty Images)http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/04/14/thailand-demonstration.html
http://www.nation.co.ke/.../899294/-/o5v219z/-/
BANGKOK, Wednesday Thailand's "red shirts" congregated in their tens of thousands at an upmarket Bangkok shopping district on Wednesday, preparing a "final battleground" in their campaign to oust army-backed Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva. About 40,000 had gathered by evening as the prospect of further impasse looked set to hit growth in Southeast Asia's second-largest economy after clashes on Saturday killed at least 22 people, Thailand's worst violence in 18 years. "We will use the Rachaprasong area as the final battleground to oust the government, " protest leader Nattawut Saikua told reporters on Wednesday, referring to the hotel and shopping district a couple of blocks from Bangkok's financial area.
http://www.nation.co.ke/.../899294/-/o5v219z/-/
BANGKOK, Wednesday Thailand's "red shirts" congregated in their tens of thousands at an upmarket Bangkok shopping district on Wednesday, preparing a "final battleground" in their campaign to oust army-backed Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva. About 40,000 had gathered by evening as the prospect of further impasse looked set to hit growth in Southeast Asia's second-largest economy after clashes on Saturday killed at least 22 people, Thailand's worst violence in 18 years. "We will use the Rachaprasong area as the final battleground to oust the government, " protest leader Nattawut Saikua told reporters on Wednesday, referring to the hotel and shopping district a couple of blocks from Bangkok's financial area.
Les "chemises rouges" annoncent la "bataille finale" en Thaïlande
http://www.lemonde.fr/asie-pacifique/article/2010/04/14/les-chemise-rouges-annoncent-la-bataille-finale-en-thailande_1333330_3216.html
voir l'article du monde d'aujourd'hui
http://www.lemonde.fr/asie-pacifique/article/2010/04/14/les-chemise-rouges-annoncent-la-bataille-finale-en-thailande_1333330_3216.html
voir l'article du monde d'aujourd'hui
Les "chemises rouges" annoncent la "bataille finale" en Thaïlande
http://www.lemonde.fr/...de_1333330_3216.html
voir l'article du monde d'aujourd'hui
Salut!
Qu'on vienne encore me parler de democratie en Thailande apres tout ca (oui je sais y'a pire!)🙁.
Malheureusement le nombre de victimes risque de s'alourdir avec les blesses graves qu'il y'a eu les jours precedents, sans parler de ce qui risque de se passer dans les prochains jours si personne ne lache l'affaire!
Encore des vies humaines sacrifiees sur l'autel de la politique et du pouvoir 😠!
Que se soit des militaires, des policiers, des rouges ou autres, ce sont des etres humains qu'on utilise et qu'on envoie au casse pipe, voir a l'abattoir! Seules les methodes changent pour parvenir a cette fin, certains etant des professionnels!
Esperons qu'une lueur touche l'un ou l'autre des camps et que des negociations aboutissent, afin d'eviter un carnage dans ce pays qu'on aime tant, ce qui ne doit pas nous empecher d'exprimer ce qui nous y fout les boules!
http://www.lemonde.fr/...de_1333330_3216.html
voir l'article du monde d'aujourd'hui
Salut!
Qu'on vienne encore me parler de democratie en Thailande apres tout ca (oui je sais y'a pire!)🙁.
Malheureusement le nombre de victimes risque de s'alourdir avec les blesses graves qu'il y'a eu les jours precedents, sans parler de ce qui risque de se passer dans les prochains jours si personne ne lache l'affaire!
Encore des vies humaines sacrifiees sur l'autel de la politique et du pouvoir 😠!
Que se soit des militaires, des policiers, des rouges ou autres, ce sont des etres humains qu'on utilise et qu'on envoie au casse pipe, voir a l'abattoir! Seules les methodes changent pour parvenir a cette fin, certains etant des professionnels!
Esperons qu'une lueur touche l'un ou l'autre des camps et que des negociations aboutissent, afin d'eviter un carnage dans ce pays qu'on aime tant, ce qui ne doit pas nous empecher d'exprimer ce qui nous y fout les boules!
"Le patriotisme c'est l'esclavage"
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dans ce pays qu'on aime tant
quatre questions qu on apprend dans nos classes primaires a demander aux etrangers , est
1. where you from 2. why do you like thailand 3. how long you stay 4. what do you do in thailand quand tu auras repondu , on the repondra , thank you have a nice day.
si tu as compris ? , c est bien😏
quatre questions qu on apprend dans nos classes primaires a demander aux etrangers , est
1. where you from 2. why do you like thailand 3. how long you stay 4. what do you do in thailand quand tu auras repondu , on the repondra , thank you have a nice day.
si tu as compris ? , c est bien😏
Mai Pen Rai Krap
Faut pas s en soucier
Que se soit des militaires, des policiers, des rouges ou autres, ce sont des etres humains qu'on utilise et qu'on envoie au casse pipe, voir a l'abattoir! Seules les methodes changent pour parvenir a cette fin, certains etant des professionnels!
tu n as rien comprit. l usage de la force , bataille , guerre , et tout le reste , c est dans le sang thai , ca fait partit de la pur culture thai. regarde bien la tele thai , les feuilletons , 70% c est la violence , on aime ca en thailande. alors quand c est pour le reel , encore plus. surtout ne pensent pas " ces pauvres thailandais " ils s enfoutent de ce genre d opinion.
😏 ne dit jamais ca face a face a un thai , tu risquerais de te faire allumer. Le thai sourit toujours n est ce pas. alors laisse le sourire , dans son genre , il le fait tres bien son sourire , le thai ou la thaie.
tu n as rien comprit. l usage de la force , bataille , guerre , et tout le reste , c est dans le sang thai , ca fait partit de la pur culture thai. regarde bien la tele thai , les feuilletons , 70% c est la violence , on aime ca en thailande. alors quand c est pour le reel , encore plus. surtout ne pensent pas " ces pauvres thailandais " ils s enfoutent de ce genre d opinion.
😏 ne dit jamais ca face a face a un thai , tu risquerais de te faire allumer. Le thai sourit toujours n est ce pas. alors laisse le sourire , dans son genre , il le fait tres bien son sourire , le thai ou la thaie.
Mai Pen Rai Krap
Faut pas s en soucier
Que se soit des militaires, des policiers, des rouges ou autres, ce sont des
etres humains qu'on utilise et qu'on envoie au casse pipe, voir a l'abattoir!
Seules les methodes changent pour parvenir a cette fin, certains etant des professionnels!
tu n as rien comprit. l usage de la force , bataille , guerre , et tout le reste , c est dans le sang thai , ca fait partit de la pur culture thai. regarde bien la tele thai , les feuilletons , 70% c est la violence , on aime ca en thailande. alors quand c est pour le reel , encore plus. surtout ne pensent pas " ces pauvres thailandais " ils s enfoutent de ce genre d opinion.
😏 ne dit jamais ca face a face a un thai , tu risquerais de te faire allumer. Le thai sourit toujours n est ce pas. alors laisse le sourire , dans son genre , il le fait tres bien son sourire , le thai ou la thaie.
Je crains que vous ne généralisiez un peu votre entourage !
Tout le monde n'est pas "Red" tendance "Mao", et ne crois pas en la violence, beaucoup de ceux que je connais, moi, la réprouvent même ... (je parle de la vraie violence, pas du crêpage de chignon des soaps de TV7 !)
Par rapport à ceux que je connais (dont moi-même), "flamandbleu" est bien plus en ligne que vous ... (6 mois à la Pagode, tête rasée, à aller chercher votre bouffe tous les matins pieds-nus vous feraient peut-être un grand bien, qui sait !)
🙂
tu n as rien comprit. l usage de la force , bataille , guerre , et tout le reste , c est dans le sang thai , ca fait partit de la pur culture thai. regarde bien la tele thai , les feuilletons , 70% c est la violence , on aime ca en thailande. alors quand c est pour le reel , encore plus. surtout ne pensent pas " ces pauvres thailandais " ils s enfoutent de ce genre d opinion.
😏 ne dit jamais ca face a face a un thai , tu risquerais de te faire allumer. Le thai sourit toujours n est ce pas. alors laisse le sourire , dans son genre , il le fait tres bien son sourire , le thai ou la thaie.
Je crains que vous ne généralisiez un peu votre entourage !
Tout le monde n'est pas "Red" tendance "Mao", et ne crois pas en la violence, beaucoup de ceux que je connais, moi, la réprouvent même ... (je parle de la vraie violence, pas du crêpage de chignon des soaps de TV7 !)
Par rapport à ceux que je connais (dont moi-même), "flamandbleu" est bien plus en ligne que vous ... (6 mois à la Pagode, tête rasée, à aller chercher votre bouffe tous les matins pieds-nus vous feraient peut-être un grand bien, qui sait !)
🙂
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
6 mois à la Pagode, tête rasée, à aller chercher votre bouffe tous les matins
pieds-nus vous feraient peut-être un grand bien, qui sait !)
oui, mais de nos jours , faut choisir sa pagode , il y a les pagode rouge , blanche , jaunes.
c est pour ca qu il faut une nouvelle election , pour mettre les points sur les I.
oui, mais de nos jours , faut choisir sa pagode , il y a les pagode rouge , blanche , jaunes.
c est pour ca qu il faut une nouvelle election , pour mettre les points sur les I.
Mai Pen Rai Krap
Faut pas s en soucier
de nos jours , faut choisir sa pagode , il y a les pagode rouge , blanche , jaunes.
Et qui pour éponger "les larmes de Bouddha" ?
🙂
Et qui pour éponger "les larmes de Bouddha" ?
🙂
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Et qui pour éponger "les larmes de Bouddha" ?
waithai n est pas bouddiste , pour moi toute les religions sont bonne a prendre , ils se remsemble tous , et personne ne les respectent plus dans le monde ( ou presque). moi jai fait une croix sur les religions , je suis comme un suisse , neutre.
le bouddha dans tout ca en thailande , benh je crois qu on s en occupera , une fois la bataille ou guerre terminé , pour le moment on le laisse de coté.
FAIT REEL. avant la bataille de samedi kao san et autres lieu , l image de bouddha des rouges mise en face du temple erawan s est cassé en deux; comme ca tout seul d un coup!!!!
waithai n est pas bouddiste , pour moi toute les religions sont bonne a prendre , ils se remsemble tous , et personne ne les respectent plus dans le monde ( ou presque). moi jai fait une croix sur les religions , je suis comme un suisse , neutre.
le bouddha dans tout ca en thailande , benh je crois qu on s en occupera , une fois la bataille ou guerre terminé , pour le moment on le laisse de coté.
FAIT REEL. avant la bataille de samedi kao san et autres lieu , l image de bouddha des rouges mise en face du temple erawan s est cassé en deux; comme ca tout seul d un coup!!!!
Mai Pen Rai Krap
Faut pas s en soucier
FAIT REEL. avant la bataille de samedi kao san et autres lieu , l image de bouddha des rouges mise en face du temple erawan s est cassé en deux; comme ca tout seul d un coup!!!!
vous devriez suivre ce signe et rentrer chez vous !
vous devriez suivre ce signe et rentrer chez vous !
FAIT REEL. avant la bataille de samedi kao san et autres lieu , l image de bouddha des rouges mise en face du temple erawan s est cassé en deux; comme ca tout seul d un coup!!!!
Ben oui, je n'ai pas trop compris cette histoire. Comment c'est possible une image qui se casse en deux? Une statue oui, mais une image....😇
Tu peux nous éclairer?
Ben oui, je n'ai pas trop compris cette histoire. Comment c'est possible une image qui se casse en deux? Une statue oui, mais une image....😇
Tu peux nous éclairer?
Très cordialement
Maddy
Maddy
je suis comme un suisse , neutre
HIHI😎
La neutralité de la Suisse s'arrête à l'intérêt financier
avant la bataille de samedi kao san et autres lieu , l image de bouddha des rouges mise en face du temple erawan s est cassé en deux; comme ca tout seul d un coup!!!!
C'est un très mauvais signe çà, à ta place je porterai une chemise rose 😉
HIHI😎
La neutralité de la Suisse s'arrête à l'intérêt financier
avant la bataille de samedi kao san et autres lieu , l image de bouddha des rouges mise en face du temple erawan s est cassé en deux; comme ca tout seul d un coup!!!!
C'est un très mauvais signe çà, à ta place je porterai une chemise rose 😉
"Quand l'injustice devient loi, la rébellion devient devoir. " Thomas Jefferson
« Le doute est l’apanage des gens intelligents, les cons n’ont que des certitudes »
(Alain Leblay)
FAIT REEL. avant la bataille de samedi kao san et autres lieu , l image de bouddha des rouges mise en face du temple erawan s est cassé en deux; comme ca tout seul d un coup!!!! 
rentrer chez vous...
NON ? le message est qu il est neutre , sur les deux cotés , donc on continue la guerre.

rentrer chez vous...
NON ? le message est qu il est neutre , sur les deux cotés , donc on continue la guerre.
Mai Pen Rai Krap
Faut pas s en soucier
... SITUATION BANGKOK Jeudi 15 Avril 12H00
on reviens carement a la case depart du 17 Mars. plus de rouge sont entrain de converger vers bangkok du nord et esan , faute de place il faut aller occuper le centre bangkok jusqua sukhumvit secteur emporium ou plus a l interieur de silom. Aujourdhui c est le jour pour installer le nouveau camp. cote gouvernemnt pas de changement , sauf qu il sont pret a faire des elections dans 6 mois. Les rouges n ont pas confiance en parole de habibi , donc la guerre continue. Dans les prochains jours , on assistera a nouveau a la guerre des mots , si rien ne se passe , il y aura a nouveau la force , voir d abord occupation des rues , le chaos du traffic.
Une nouvelle intervention de l armee , resultera pas a une bataille , mais a un carnage , si ca a lieu en plein centre. Donc pas d intervention a craindre dans les prochains jours.
on reviens carement a la case depart du 17 Mars. plus de rouge sont entrain de converger vers bangkok du nord et esan , faute de place il faut aller occuper le centre bangkok jusqua sukhumvit secteur emporium ou plus a l interieur de silom. Aujourdhui c est le jour pour installer le nouveau camp. cote gouvernemnt pas de changement , sauf qu il sont pret a faire des elections dans 6 mois. Les rouges n ont pas confiance en parole de habibi , donc la guerre continue. Dans les prochains jours , on assistera a nouveau a la guerre des mots , si rien ne se passe , il y aura a nouveau la force , voir d abord occupation des rues , le chaos du traffic.
Une nouvelle intervention de l armee , resultera pas a une bataille , mais a un carnage , si ca a lieu en plein centre. Donc pas d intervention a craindre dans les prochains jours.
Mai Pen Rai Krap
Faut pas s en soucier
tu n as rien comprit. l usage de la force , bataille , guerre , et tout le reste , c est dans le sang thai , ca fait partit de la pur culture thai.
N'importe quoi bonhomme....................! Il n'y a pas de peuple plus doux et aussi pacifique😏!
ne dit jamais ca face a face a un thai , tu risquerais de te faire allumer. Le thai sourit toujours n est ce pas. alors laisse le sourire , dans son genre , il le fait tres bien son sourire , le thai ou la thaie.
Je l'ai deja dit plusieurs fois a des Thais........! Tout depend de la maniere dont on l'exprime! Et vu que la plupart etaient d'accord avec moi, il semble qu'on ne frequente pas les memes personnes!
Quant au reste, la mort d'un etre humain te laisse indifferent, pas moi!
Enfin, vu ton niveau general de discernement, ce n'est pas quelqu'un comme toi, qui parle de lui-meme a la troisieme personne, que je viendrais consulter si j'ai une boite (tu pipes?)............!!😏 J'espere pour toi (et surtout pour tes pseudos clients) que c'est une plaisanterie ce qui est indique dans ton profil, a savoir consulting!
N'importe quoi bonhomme....................! Il n'y a pas de peuple plus doux et aussi pacifique😏!
ne dit jamais ca face a face a un thai , tu risquerais de te faire allumer. Le thai sourit toujours n est ce pas. alors laisse le sourire , dans son genre , il le fait tres bien son sourire , le thai ou la thaie.
Je l'ai deja dit plusieurs fois a des Thais........! Tout depend de la maniere dont on l'exprime! Et vu que la plupart etaient d'accord avec moi, il semble qu'on ne frequente pas les memes personnes!
Quant au reste, la mort d'un etre humain te laisse indifferent, pas moi!
Enfin, vu ton niveau general de discernement, ce n'est pas quelqu'un comme toi, qui parle de lui-meme a la troisieme personne, que je viendrais consulter si j'ai une boite (tu pipes?)............!!😏 J'espere pour toi (et surtout pour tes pseudos clients) que c'est une plaisanterie ce qui est indique dans ton profil, a savoir consulting!
"Le patriotisme c'est l'esclavage"
TOLSTOI
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J'espere pour toi (et surtout pour tes pseudos clients) que c'est une plaisanterie ce qui est indique dans ton profil, a savoir consulting
oui , je suis a la retraite, quoi , je fait du consulting pour les amis media thai , visite des forum etrangers , en bénevole , pour passer le temps.( je vais enlever ca d ailleurs de suite sur le profil)
😇 DIT VOIR KHUN FLAMANDBLEU. Qu est que un thai pense de la mort ??????????
oui , je suis a la retraite, quoi , je fait du consulting pour les amis media thai , visite des forum etrangers , en bénevole , pour passer le temps.( je vais enlever ca d ailleurs de suite sur le profil)
😇 DIT VOIR KHUN FLAMANDBLEU. Qu est que un thai pense de la mort ??????????
Mai Pen Rai Krap
Faut pas s en soucier
oui , je suis a la retraite,
A la retraite a 54 ans..........!!! C'est ta boite de consulting qui ta envoye en preretraite alors, vu tes performances dans ce secteur!😏
😇 DIT VOIR KHUN FLAMANDBLEU. Qu est que un thai pense de la mort ??????????
Dis moi bonhomme, qu'est-ce qu'une mere thai ou l'epouse d'un pauvre gars qui se prend une balle dans la tete dans la rue pense de la mort???????????????????? Qu'il part rejoindre le pays des ancetres et que c'est chouette pour lui c'est ca.......!!?
A la retraite a 54 ans..........!!! C'est ta boite de consulting qui ta envoye en preretraite alors, vu tes performances dans ce secteur!😏
😇 DIT VOIR KHUN FLAMANDBLEU. Qu est que un thai pense de la mort ??????????
Dis moi bonhomme, qu'est-ce qu'une mere thai ou l'epouse d'un pauvre gars qui se prend une balle dans la tete dans la rue pense de la mort???????????????????? Qu'il part rejoindre le pays des ancetres et que c'est chouette pour lui c'est ca.......!!?
"Le patriotisme c'est l'esclavage"
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So basically, we’re paying a lot for a private tour just to do the same thing as everyone else at the same time.
Or maybe I just had bad luck in my search. I contacted Panida Ladi, who’s very popular on forums. We’d agreed on a private tour that matched my request (departure from the pier at 8 AM, very personalized itinerary). We settled on the itinerary and price, she asked for a Wise transfer for a 30% deposit, confirmed receipt of the deposit. Then 30 minutes later, she messaged me to say she was canceling everything because it was impossible to do the requested tour—and promised a quick refund of my deposit.
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Thanks, PS: My trip is planned for November
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Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
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Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
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Feel free to contact us for her number.
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We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hey everyone,
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Hi everyone,
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
Hi,
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.