Thierry
Traitement anti-paludéen au Lariam pour un voyage en Zambie-Malawi: effets indésirables?
by Pairine
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Nous partons prochainement en famille (2 adultes + 3 enfants ) en Zambie et au Malawi pendant 6 semaines et hésitons encore sur le traitement prophylactique anti-palu à adopter.
Le médecin du Centre des maladies tropicales nous avait prescrit de l'Oxypalu mais avait omis de nous prévenir du risque important de photosensibilisation, donc pas question.
Restent le Malarone et le Lariam mais d'une part le prix va du simple au double (environ 550 € pour le premier et 300 € pour le second en comptant l'ensemble du traitement !!).
Si l'on lit les discussions sur ce sujet, on a d'emblée TRES PEUR du Lariam .........mais à part les on-dit et autres rumeurs sur le copain de la copine...QUI a vraiment testé ce produit et surtout quelles sont les réelles conséquences ??
Merci de ne pas me transmettre la liste des effets indésirables de la notice...je l'ai déjà lue!
Thierry
Thierry
pairine
Salut,
J'ai testé deux fois le Lariam, et il n'y aura pas de troisième fois... Effets constatés chez moi : nausées, maux de ventre, fatigue, mais surtout état dépressif assez prononcé. j'ai eu le malheur de boire de l'alcool un soir sous traitement (dans des quantités très raisonnables, je précise) et j'ai été malade comme un chien... Après, chacun réagit de façon différente et tu trouveras des gens qui n'ont pas eu d'effets secondaires... Mais pour moi ça a été un fiasco, je ne renouvellerai pas l'expérience ! La malarone a dit-on beaucoup moins d'effets indésirables, mais je ne l'ai pas expérimenté : je n'ai plus pris de traitement préventif depuis le Lariam (il faut dire que je ne suis allée que dans des zones où le risque était limité, et je suis extrêmement vigilante sur la prévention des piqures...)
J'ai testé deux fois le Lariam, et il n'y aura pas de troisième fois... Effets constatés chez moi : nausées, maux de ventre, fatigue, mais surtout état dépressif assez prononcé. j'ai eu le malheur de boire de l'alcool un soir sous traitement (dans des quantités très raisonnables, je précise) et j'ai été malade comme un chien... Après, chacun réagit de façon différente et tu trouveras des gens qui n'ont pas eu d'effets secondaires... Mais pour moi ça a été un fiasco, je ne renouvellerai pas l'expérience ! La malarone a dit-on beaucoup moins d'effets indésirables, mais je ne l'ai pas expérimenté : je n'ai plus pris de traitement préventif depuis le Lariam (il faut dire que je ne suis allée que dans des zones où le risque était limité, et je suis extrêmement vigilante sur la prévention des piqures...)
Cyrille
Bonjour Thierry,
Personnellement, j'ai pris du Lariam (mefloquine) pendant 4 mois lors d'un séjours au Mozambique en Afrique.
Expérience traumatisante? Pas du tout.
Je te mentirais en te disant que le Lariam ne m'a pas fait pas un effet particulier. En effet, les rêves sont "actifs", les réveils en peu confus, et ce, particulièrement la journée de la prise du comprimé. Mais à part ça...
Je trouve personnellement que certain hypocondriaque se sont mis faire des associations exagérées... la légende urbaine n'aidant pas.
De toutes les personnes que je connaissent (+/-10) qui ont pris Lariam pour une période considérable (+2 mois), ils parlent tous de leurs expériences comme quelque chose de bizarre. Définitivement! Mais sans plus...
Il est possible d'essayer Lariam 2 ou 3 semaines avant de partir. c'est même recommandé. De cette façon, il vous est possible de voir si cette médication vous va ou non. Il ne sera donc pas trop tard pour Malarone advenant que non.
Bon voyage en Afrique australe...! Vos enfants sont très chanceux!
Rémi
Personnellement, j'ai pris du Lariam (mefloquine) pendant 4 mois lors d'un séjours au Mozambique en Afrique.
Expérience traumatisante? Pas du tout.
Je te mentirais en te disant que le Lariam ne m'a pas fait pas un effet particulier. En effet, les rêves sont "actifs", les réveils en peu confus, et ce, particulièrement la journée de la prise du comprimé. Mais à part ça...
Je trouve personnellement que certain hypocondriaque se sont mis faire des associations exagérées... la légende urbaine n'aidant pas.
De toutes les personnes que je connaissent (+/-10) qui ont pris Lariam pour une période considérable (+2 mois), ils parlent tous de leurs expériences comme quelque chose de bizarre. Définitivement! Mais sans plus...
Il est possible d'essayer Lariam 2 ou 3 semaines avant de partir. c'est même recommandé. De cette façon, il vous est possible de voir si cette médication vous va ou non. Il ne sera donc pas trop tard pour Malarone advenant que non.
Bon voyage en Afrique australe...! Vos enfants sont très chanceux!
Rémi
Merci pour ces infos objectives, il ne nous reste plus qu'à tenter l'expérience et à la faire partager ensuite afin d'alimenter le débat !
Toutefois, pour les enfants (15, 13 et 9 ans) j'ai quelques inquiétudes sur les troubles du sommeil, ou sur le côté "bizarre" des effets, c'est donc à cogiter .
Pour résumer, les traitements anti-palu ne sont jamais indemnes d'effets secondaires quels qu'ils soient et il convient de bien y réfléchir avant !
Thierry
Ps: Je pense qu'effectivement nos enfants ont beaucoup de chance, j'espère qu'ils l'apprécieront !!
Thierry
Ps: Je pense qu'effectivement nos enfants ont beaucoup de chance, j'espère qu'ils l'apprécieront !!
pairine
Salut,
J'ai pris le lariam pendant 2 mois 1/2 l'an dernier et le seul effet secondaire que j'ai ressenti sont quelques mots de tete le jour de la prise du cachet, puis ca s'atténue le lendemain, et plus rien jusqu'a la prochaine prise... En tout cas, clairement pas de quoi me gacher mon sejour !
Bon voyage!
J'ai pris le lariam pendant 2 mois 1/2 l'an dernier et le seul effet secondaire que j'ai ressenti sont quelques mots de tete le jour de la prise du cachet, puis ca s'atténue le lendemain, et plus rien jusqu'a la prochaine prise... En tout cas, clairement pas de quoi me gacher mon sejour !
Bon voyage!
Bonjour,
Nous projetons de partir avec 2 enfants (7 et 9 ans) en Zambie et au Malawi en louant un 4x4. Compte tenu de votre expérience, pouvez-vous nous dire:ce que les enfants ont apprécié le plusquels sont les parcours que vous conseilleriez pour un séjour de 3 semainesquels types de logement sont les plus adéquats: camping, lodges, hôtels..
Enfin bref, nous sommes ouverts à tous renseignements nous permettant de mieux préparer notre voyage.
D'avance merci.
Corinne
Nous projetons de partir avec 2 enfants (7 et 9 ans) en Zambie et au Malawi en louant un 4x4. Compte tenu de votre expérience, pouvez-vous nous dire:ce que les enfants ont apprécié le plusquels sont les parcours que vous conseilleriez pour un séjour de 3 semainesquels types de logement sont les plus adéquats: camping, lodges, hôtels..
Enfin bref, nous sommes ouverts à tous renseignements nous permettant de mieux préparer notre voyage.
D'avance merci.
Corinne
Bonjour,
tout d'abord je serai tenté de vous répondre que c'est un super choix et que la Zambie est très sécurisante avec des enfants.
Pour ce qui est des logemernts nous ne connaissons que les campings et backpackers, certains sont très biens d'autres moins tout depend de votre budget et de votre recherche.
Pour ce qui est des déplacements nous ne nous sommes déplacés que en bus et en stop souvent à l'arrière d'un pick-up.
Quand nous écoutons nos enfants parler du voyage, il apparait qu'ils ont énormément appréciés le safari dans le south luangwa park et les contacts avec la population locale et pour ce qui est de mon fils de 16 ans, les 15 jours passés ensemble un peu aventureux avant que les filles nous rejoignent.
Pour l'itinéraire, nous avons faits Lusaka -Mongu avec un arrêt de 3 jours au parc de Kafue; puis Mongu -Senanga avec un passage aux Sioma falls superbe et un très bon accueil dans un lodge puis sesheke puis Livingstone et les victoria falls a voir, puis retour à Lusaka direction Chipata et ensuite le south luangwa park 5 jours de safari ou seul le la rencontre avec le léopard nous a manquée. Ensuite retour à Chipata pour la direction du Malawi trees beau pays aussi mais si vous avez 15 jours de vacances la Zambie suffira . Nous avons mis avec mon fils 15 jours pour faire Lusaka-mongu-livingstone -Lusaka tranquilement, il faut tout de même savoir que entre Sénanga et sesheke (ouest) la seule voie praticable est une piste donc a voir suivant la saison de votre départ. Je suis naturellement prêt a vous donner tous les autres renseignements que vous desirez, vous pouvez si vous le souhaiter me teléphoner, le dialogue est plus aisé que l'écrit N'hésitez pas, l'aide que je pourrai vous apporter nous en avons bénéficiés nous même avec d'autres Bonne préparation Thierry
Pour l'itinéraire, nous avons faits Lusaka -Mongu avec un arrêt de 3 jours au parc de Kafue; puis Mongu -Senanga avec un passage aux Sioma falls superbe et un très bon accueil dans un lodge puis sesheke puis Livingstone et les victoria falls a voir, puis retour à Lusaka direction Chipata et ensuite le south luangwa park 5 jours de safari ou seul le la rencontre avec le léopard nous a manquée. Ensuite retour à Chipata pour la direction du Malawi trees beau pays aussi mais si vous avez 15 jours de vacances la Zambie suffira . Nous avons mis avec mon fils 15 jours pour faire Lusaka-mongu-livingstone -Lusaka tranquilement, il faut tout de même savoir que entre Sénanga et sesheke (ouest) la seule voie praticable est une piste donc a voir suivant la saison de votre départ. Je suis naturellement prêt a vous donner tous les autres renseignements que vous desirez, vous pouvez si vous le souhaiter me teléphoner, le dialogue est plus aisé que l'écrit N'hésitez pas, l'aide que je pourrai vous apporter nous en avons bénéficiés nous même avec d'autres Bonne préparation Thierry
pairine
Bonjour Thierry
merci pour cette réponse. Nous serions ravis de pouvoir en discuter de vive voix; le mieux serait peut être d'échanger nos telephones par mail. Voilà notre adresse csdanan@free.fr.
A bientôt donc Corinne
A bientôt donc Corinne
Bonjour,
ns projettons aussi de partir cet été avec nos 3 enfants de 6 à 11 ans au malawi ou en zambie. Pouvez vous nous dire quel a été votre itinéraire, son cout et si les enfants ont apprécié ? Y a t il des dangers au niveau sécurité ans ces 2 pays ?
merci bcp
ns projettons aussi de partir cet été avec nos 3 enfants de 6 à 11 ans au malawi ou en zambie. Pouvez vous nous dire quel a été votre itinéraire, son cout et si les enfants ont apprécié ? Y a t il des dangers au niveau sécurité ans ces 2 pays ?
merci bcp
Les voyages ouvrent le coeur et l'esprit
Re-bonjour,
Si vous êtes toujours dispo pour un entretien tél., nous sommes OK ?
(famille avec 4 enfants pour Zambie-Malawi été 2011 et petit budget)
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Thanks so much for your replies.
Hi there,
I’ve started looking into getting dental implants, possibly in Costa Rica or Mexico.
Do you have any clinics to recommend or ones I should avoid?
For the next steps, I need to choose between Cuba Medika or Medigo—these are agencies that help with medical procedures. Do you have any info on either of them?
Thanks so much for your help!
Thanks so much for your help!
Hi everyone, a question for those who’ve been lucky enough to visit Raja Ampat—should you consider preventive malaria treatment given its proximity to Papua? And how was the food hygiene situation?
Thanks for your feedback! !
Hi there.
I’d like to know if all medications need to be declared at Uzbek customs.
E.g., antidepressants?
Thanks for your reply
For several years now, increased aggression has been observed in Cape fur seals.
At least 70 unprovoked attacks on humans.
It was recently confirmed that this is due to rabies.
The suspected origin is contamination in Namibia by jackals.
The contagion seems to be spreading.
Preventive vaccination (of the animals) is being considered.
Just a reminder:
Rabies affects all mammals.
Once symptoms appear—sometimes weeks or even months later—death is inevitable.
It’s the bite that transmits the disease.
There are so-called "furious" forms with aggression, but also forms without aggression.
In case of a bite, in addition to standard wound care, tetanus prevention… rabies prevention is essential.
Stay careful out there…
Seeing seals from a boat along the coast isn’t rare in these parts…
I need 2 dental implants and I'd like to get them done abroad (it's a question of price).
Thanks for helping me with my search (Turkey, Spain, Romania???)
Can you tell me if you're satisfied with the services provided by Dentist Miguel at Club Amigo in Holguin? I'd like to go there in mid-December. Is it worth the trip to get dental prosthetics done?
Thanks for getting back to me... Michelle from Quebec
Hello,
I’m looking for a dentist who can do a full lower-arch implant with a complete prosthesis. I’m in Quebec and available to travel to Cuba. Need full contact details. Thanks everyone!