Traversée de la Libye et de l'Égypte
by Midou78
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Salut a vous tous
Je compte faire un voyage en transport collectif cette été 2008. je pars de Tunisie puisque ce mon pays en suite Libye puis Égypte et pourquoi pas ensuite vers la Jordanie.Alors je demande a tous ce qui a réaliser ce voyage ou a ce qui connait ces payer de me renseigner 😊 .
Merci bien et a +.
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MIDOU78
salut
pour ce voyage TUNIS/LECAIRE...:
vous avez TUNIS _ RAS JEDIR ou la frontiere TUNISO_LIBYENNE 590 kms
RAS JEDIR_SALLOUM ou la frontiere LIBYO_EGYPTIENNE 2000 kms
SLLOUM_LE CAIRE ............................................. 750 hms
depart de TUNIS gare routiere sud 16h00.......arrivée TRIPOLI 05h00
TRIPOLI ....................07h00..................LE CAIRE 14h00 le tout à 270 TND environ 150 EUROS
en aller retour...TUNIS_LE CAIRE_TUNIS...
visa pour l'EGYPTE 15 EUROS equiv 27 TND...
njm
njm
njm
Milles merci d'avoir lu et répondre a mes questions.
J'avoue vous dire que j'ai fait Tunis-Tripoli 2 fois avec la voiture de mon frère et c'était une 206 essence.Et j'aime bien avoir + d'idée concernant le logement en Égypte et le transport et visa c facile ou non ...
En fin j'aime bien te dire BRAVO NEJM EDDINE. 😉
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MIDOU78
salut
visa touristique pour L'EGYPTE accessible....budget pour des vacances raisonnable aussi...pour voyage par voie de surface pas de paiement de timbre à 60 TND.....ce sera un voyage sans contraintes et sans passage par
circuit touristique organisé...
pour le routing : TRIPOLI AJDABIYEH SALLOUM ...stop à SIDI ABDERRAHMANE à 80 kms de SALLOUM ..
ensuite MARSA MATROUH.. autoroute saharienne ...stop à 30 kms du CAIRE...
change à RAS JEDIR 150 TND...change à SALLOUM 20 EGP...
arrivée au CAIRE à la station abdelmoneam riadh pres de la place ettahrir ...prendre un taxi 7 EGP pour l'hotel de la gare RAMSIS 2...chambre à 20EGP /nuit...
durée du voyage TUNIS LE CAIRE TUNIS : 2 jours plus 2 nuits aller ...et idem pour retour...
change chez sarraf plus avantageux....restaurant pecheur kadoura à mohandesine...
metro RAMSIS à HELOUANE 22kms tarif 1.25EGP aller simple...
budget par jour 20 EGP hotel plus 6 EGP bouffe...4 EGP transport ..total 30 EGP/jour
donc avec un budget tres etudié de 500 ou 600 TND on peut passer de bonnes vacances en EGYPTE...
njm
njm
Salut mon expert NEJEM EDDINE
Vraiment tu ma beaucoup encourager et je te jure que je vais partir inchallah. Mais puisque tu est un excellent expert (permit mois de te le dire 😊) je vais demander trop :
* j'ai pas compris combien je dois changer pour entrer en Égypte c koi 20 EGP ???
* chambre d'hotel : TV Douche Clim ?? ou rien ??
* Charm Echi5 c'est intéressent a visiter et ce que ça coute car c en dollar n'es pas ??
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MIDOU78
salut
TND: dinar TUNISIEN
EGP: livre EGYPTIENNE
tu peux decouvrir l'EGYPTE avec comme depenses 270 TND TUNIS LE CAIRE TUNIS plus 330 TND argent de poche ...le tout à 600 TND ...pas de SHARM EL SHEIKH trop touristique ...plutot ALEXANDRIE ...et pourquoi
pas TUNIS LE CAIRE ALEXANDRIE TRIPOLI TUNIS....c'est plus simple.....c'est à toi de prevoir les depenses
qui te conviennent ...selon tes moyens ..et à la lumiere des modestes infos que je t'ai communiqué...
LE PACKAGE touristique pour l'EGYPTE EST à plus de 900 TND pour un voyage organisé ...sans compter l'argent de poche...donc tu es libre de concocter ton propre programme de voyage ..sans etre encadré ...dans un tourisme de masse...pour ALEXANDRIE prevoir un diner au restaurant pecheur AL ANFOUGHI au port....
njm
njm
njm
bonjour midou et njm,
d'après ce que j'ai vue en principe 100DTN=457EGP donc pour 330DNT=1508EGP
et comme Mr njm a dit 30EGP par jour alors pourquoi 330DNT comme argent avec les 270DNT??
merci de me répondre Mr njm
et pour les 270DNT est ce qu'il sont pour un transport par voiture ?? et quel sont les autres moyens pour se déplacer
merci encore une fois car nous sommes aussi intéressés a ce genre de voyage
GROUPESFAX
salut
priere relire attentivement les messages...tout y est.....merci de votre comprehension
njm
njm
njm
NJM
salut
ok j'ai lu mais par exemple midou vous a dit 20EGP?? mais vous n'a pas précisé 1DT=?EGP et les détails de l'hôtel
encore j'en suis pas bon en français donc il se peut qu'il y a des choses que j'ai pas bien compris et a propos le transports par quoi vous me conseille
merci
GROUPESFAX
salut
ce voyage en EGYPTE par route à budget modeste est preconisé pour ceux qui ne sont pas exigeants ...
et qui veulent decouvrir une destination touristique de renom....
pour les autres ils peuvent recourir aux agences de voyages et pretendre à des prestations standards
de touristes de masse...
njm
njm
njm
MIDOU78
salut
ma modeste contribution à un voyage à petit budget TUNISIE EGYPTE VIA LA LIBYE s'arréte là....
pour l'info au sujet de la fluidité de passage routier entre SALLOUM et MARSA MATRUH....il faudrait consulter la meteo des etats d'ames....
njm
njm
njm
Quel est le prix Tunis-Tripoli par avion ? je pense que celà ne dure qu'autour d'une heure au lieu 16h 5h et 270 Dinars?
Où allez vous dormir sur le circuit s'il dure plus de deux jours? et combien celà coûte? à ajouter aux frais déjà dits par les posts?
Et la Jordanie? c'est trop loin? c'est trop cher?
Alors dites moi car je suis intéressé par un tel voyage Tunis Alexandrie ou le caire. Question organisation et frais c'est pas encore clair.
Millenuits
Salut
Quel est le prix Tunis-Tripoli par avion ?
C'est 150 dinars tunisien et ya 2 vol par jour matin et soir c fait 300 diras aller / retour.
Où allez vous dormir sur le circuit s'il dure plus de deux jours? A tripoli les prix des hôtel (Chambre : TV Clim Douche Petit dej) 25 dinars/nuit.
Au frontière Tunisie / Libye ta rien a payer sauf tu a une voiture alors la c encore rien d to 1 dinars pour la association d'un club ! puis assurance véhicule + ou - 15 dinars .
Où allez vous dormir sur le circuit s'il dure plus de deux jours? A tripoli les prix des hôtel (Chambre : TV Clim Douche Petit dej) 25 dinars/nuit.
Au frontière Tunisie / Libye ta rien a payer sauf tu a une voiture alors la c encore rien d to 1 dinars pour la association d'un club ! puis assurance véhicule + ou - 15 dinars .
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Midou78.
MERCI.
Nejmeddine, pouvez vous m'indiquer un nom ou deux d'hôtels convenables (propreté prix et accueil) à Tripoli? Merci d'avance.
Millenuits
Nejmeddine, pouvez vous m'indiquer un nom ou deux d'hôtels convenables (propreté prix et accueil) à Tripoli? Merci d'avance.
Millenuits
MILLENUITS
salut
à TRIPOLI il y a le GRAND HOTEL ( al funduq al kebir) convenable centre ville 21 EUROS...
njm
njm
njm
MIDOU78
salut
priere trouver ci apres un complement d'infos sur le voyage TUNISIE EGYPTE via LA LIBYEvisa touristique valable pour un sejour d'un mois
_en cas de non disponibilité de places en bus TRIPOLI LE CAIRE de 7h00 ...faire une reservation
pour 21h00 au quartier errachid de TRIPOLI aupres de l'agence el medina...
_ à titre indicatif hotel ferdaous à errachid 20 LBD/nuit
_LE CAIRE ALEXANDRIE 210 kms ...2h de route en louage peugeot 10 EGP....
_ hotel erraoudha rue saad zaghloul centre ville ALEXANDRIE 20 EGP/nuit...
njm
njm
njm
bonsoir,
si vous allez partir en groupe de 2 ou 3 ou+ je vous conseil de louer 1 appartement meublé ça coute entre 60 et 80 EGP par jours. Si tu prend la voiture n'oublie pas de regler l assurance de la voiture a tunis (environ 60 dinars)pour que tu paye pas a essaloume.
millemercis (lol)
c'est très gentil de votre part.
Millenuits.
es ce que je peut comprendre que les hôtels que M njm a parlé sont pas bon ??
car je vois 20EGP/jour dans un hôtel et plus meilleur que louer une appartement meublée a 60EGP/jour
peut on me répondre?
GROUPESFAX
bonsoir
il ne faut pas confondre voyage de groupe et voyage individuel.....20EGP /nuit en INDIVIDUEL
et 60EGP /nuit pour 3 personnes en studio meublé.. il n ya pas de contradiction....
priere noter que le voyage à petit budget en EGYPTE concerne surtout l'individuel...
pour les hotels en LIBYE...cela depend de la gamme 2 ou 3 ou 4 etoiles et plus....
njm
njm
njm
NJM
bonsoir
justement c'est ce que j'ai dit pour 3 personne une nuit en hôtel=60EPG et dans le studio=60EPG donc on préfére quoi dans ce cas hôtel ou studio
merci
GROUPESFAX
c'est le studio meublé ...bien sur....
hotel chambre single ou double........
njm
njm
NJM
merci
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In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques






