Traverser la frontière Thaïlande-Laos à moto?
by Raflou
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bonjours a tous,
j envisage de partir de chiang mai en moto jusqu a vientiane et de remonter le laos jusqu a houayxay.
y a t il possibiliter de traverser la frontiere avec son vehicule?
merci pour vos reponse
raflou
Bonjour,
Je viens de prendre connaissance de votre mail. J'étais au Laos-Cambodge en 2007 et a Paksé j'ai loué une moto (une 250 pourrie avec 85.000 kms compteur et celui ci était bloqué !! ) pour qques jours seulement. Je recherche (pres de mes amis motards ) des compagnons de route (j'ai 67 ans et maintenant j'hésite a partir seul !! surtout a moto !! ) pour faire A MOTO la Thailande Est et pourquoi pas refaire le Laos . Mais Rien. Nada !! (soit ils travaillent soit ils ont déjà visité le pays soit ils ne veulent pas partir a moto dans ces pays !! .
Quels sont vos conseils (pour la location de moto (prix+Etat etc .... ) + bagages etc.....
Merci de votre réponse .
Cordialement .
Je viens de prendre connaissance de votre mail. J'étais au Laos-Cambodge en 2007 et a Paksé j'ai loué une moto (une 250 pourrie avec 85.000 kms compteur et celui ci était bloqué !! ) pour qques jours seulement. Je recherche (pres de mes amis motards ) des compagnons de route (j'ai 67 ans et maintenant j'hésite a partir seul !! surtout a moto !! ) pour faire A MOTO la Thailande Est et pourquoi pas refaire le Laos . Mais Rien. Nada !! (soit ils travaillent soit ils ont déjà visité le pays soit ils ne veulent pas partir a moto dans ces pays !! .
Quels sont vos conseils (pour la location de moto (prix+Etat etc .... ) + bagages etc.....
Merci de votre réponse .
Cordialement .
Acpn13
re-bonjour Raflou,
depuis que le gouverneur de Luang Phrabang a interdit la location de moto dans sa province, j'ai trouvé un loueur à Chiangmai qui accepte de me louer une Honda 250 AX et me prépare tous les papiers pour le passage en douane. En 2006, 600bahts/j .700 en nov dernier env 14 €.
J'y suis allé en solo en 2006 et avec mon fis et un copain l'an passé. Comme seul le Nord nous intéresse, départ par Houey sai et retour par Nam heug, au sud de Paklai.
Vas voir également le site en anglais:/www.GT-Rider.com pour les dernières infos.
A ta disposition pour les détails, itinéraires piste et goudron etc.
PS. sur VF, section Laos, moto, un nouveau loueur de moto à Vientiane.
A +, Lung.
bonjour,
C'est bien cela le trux, il faut être propriétaire du véhicule et produire le livret, ce qu'aucun loueur ne vous fournira sauf caution de 100.000 baht.
Sinon il faut: le bouquin de la moto procuration du propriétaire de telle à telle date ( bai mop na) copie de la carte d'identité du propriétair et son Thabien ban ( justificatif de domicile) Côté Laos; il faut obtenir un "laissez-passer " et acheter une assuranceBien préciser point d'entrée et point de sortie. Attention à Houay Xay, le ferry coûte 3500 baht si on est les seuls ou 1000 baht si il y a d'autres véhicules.
Bonne chance. Amitié
Gérard www.thairando.net
C'est bien cela le trux, il faut être propriétaire du véhicule et produire le livret, ce qu'aucun loueur ne vous fournira sauf caution de 100.000 baht.
Sinon il faut: le bouquin de la moto procuration du propriétaire de telle à telle date ( bai mop na) copie de la carte d'identité du propriétair et son Thabien ban ( justificatif de domicile) Côté Laos; il faut obtenir un "laissez-passer " et acheter une assuranceBien préciser point d'entrée et point de sortie. Attention à Houay Xay, le ferry coûte 3500 baht si on est les seuls ou 1000 baht si il y a d'autres véhicules.
Bonne chance. Amitié
Gérard www.thairando.net
Gérard
En réponse à Thairando qui défend son business, je ne suis qu'un vieux motard solitaire.A titre purement amical, j'ai
aidé 2 couples de motards lillois, rencontrés sur un autre forum, à louer leur moto à Chiangmai et les ai accompagnés
à Chiengkhong pour leur faciliter le passage côté Thai. La caution fut de10.000Bahts par moto, équivalant à la location pour 15 jours.Les 100.000Bahts, c'est en cas de vol ou si tu la plies grave.
Pour traverser le Mekong, ils ont eu le pot d'arriver en même temps qu'un groupe d'une vingtaine de KTM d'Italiens,
ont pris le même ferry et n'ont même pas payé....Un mois plutôt, j'avais négocié une pirogue à 1.000Bahts pour 3
motos et 3 pax.
Coté lao, il en coûte 5$ par moto pour le laisser passer vert.
Tout ceci demande évidemment un longue et minutieuse préparation;mais n'est-ce pas un des plaisirs du voyage?
Seul ou à 3-4 motos seulement?
Pour les anglophones, un très bon site:"www.GT-Rider.com"
Appel de phare, Lung.
Bonjour Lung
Sans vouloir être trop longue une petite présentation:
Daniel mon mari 56ans, moi son épouse(logique)46ans.Motards en France, lui Yamaha1300FJR, moi Honda 650 NTV
Je cherche notre prochaine destination par rapport à la possibilité de loc de bécanes. Nous avons fait 9 semaines de VietNAm en 125 Minsk et 110, 2 semaines de Laos en 110 également. Toujours chacun sa moto. Nous n'envisageons pas de visiter un pays autrement qu'en bécane donc ça limite un peu nos destinations mais nous sommes tellement accro de l'Asie sud est.... Quand nous étions venus au Laos(en 2007) nous avions donc loué des 110 à Vientiane, ça avait été dur parce que dés que l'on disait que l'on voulait aller jusqu'à Luang Prabang et Sam Neua on ne voulait plus nous louer. Nous avions donc fini par dire que l'on voulait rester 10 jours autour de Vientiane et avons pu faire tout notre circuit avec nos 110!! Ca passe super bien sur les pistes et en TT mais Daniel avec ses 1m85 et 90kg il est un peu plié la dessus et la puissance est un peu juste dans les montées. Pour mes petites jambes c’est parfait ça évite que je dégringole quand je veux mettre les pieds par terre pour récupérer des passages périlleux dans les ornières ou les épingles . Nous envisageons un circuit que nous avions repéré sur la carte du Laos que j'avais acheté en arrivant et que j'ai perdue juste avant de repartir. Donc je n'ai plus rien de précis pour préparer ce circuit mais approximativement nous voudrions faire : Vientiane, Xanakham, PakLai, Sainyabuli.A partir de là pas mal de possibilité de boucles et redescendre sur Vientiane de Luang Prabang par la route traditionnelle. Malheureusement avec juste ma carte de Lonely je ne vois pas grand chose pour ce qui est du réseau routier(pistes ou routes). Je suppose que tu as du bourlinguer dans tous ces coins et tous les conseils et infos seront les bienvenus! Nous faisons départ et arrivée de Vientiane à cause de la location mais pourquoi par la Thailand si possibilité de passage à la frontière avec les motos de loc. En 2009 nous partirions du 1er au 18 avril.Merci pour tous les renseignements qui peuvent m'aider dans la préparation.
rebonjour, comme je te l'ai dit par ailleurs, j'étais en panne d'ordi.vous partez en Avril? bon, d'ici là, j'aurai le temps de bien vous briefer avec des infos récentes puisque je pars de mi nov à début mars. En Déc-début Jan, grande virée avec un motard Marseillais rencontré sur le forum. Environ 3.000Km dans les provices thaies frontière avec le Laos, surtout Nan et Loei. En janv, Laos, pour l'instant en solo.si je ne trove personne d'ici là, je resterai sur le goudron et routes et les pistes empierrées.A bientôt 70 ans, il faut limiter les risques.Dommage, car à 3 motos l'an passé on s'est vraiment régalé en TT avec qques petites chaleurs:Gués profonds, sur un "lit" de galets glissants, ponts de troncs mal équarris, assez glissants, et, ma galère:fondrières de boue rouge que mon fils allait sonder avec une perche pour trouver le passage le moins profond quand il n'y avait pas de paysan pour nous indiquer le meilleur endroit.5 heures pour 25Km.Cette piste m'avait été décrite comme sans problème par un motard Marseillais(encore un...)mais il était passé fin Janv, quand tout était sec.Pour avril, je pourrai t'indiquer d'autres pistes vraiment sauvages au S/O et N/E de Luang phrabang.
A+ Lung.
Bonjour
Merci pour cette réponse. Connais tu le circuit décrit dans mon message précédent que nous voudrions faire en avril 2009? As tu déjà circulé sur cet itinéraire? C'est super de savoir que quelqu'un qui sera passer sur le "terrain" va pouvoir nous donner des infos mais j'aimerai déjà savoir si le circuit que nous envisageons a été "testé" Pour la loc de motos je n'ai pas trouvé d'avis sur Jules à Vientiane de motards qui auraient loué chez lui. Louer à Chiang mai ou Rai je ne sais plus parait assez compliqué.
A bientôt
Déjà laissez tomber les mob. pour des 250XR (Baja) façiles à trouver à Vientiane, ensuite le meilleur spot pour les infos sur la moto, les itinéraires etc... c'est là:
http://www.gt-rider.com
http://www.gt-rider.com/thailand-motorcycle-forum/laos-f2.html
http://www.gt-rider.com
http://www.gt-rider.com/thailand-motorcycle-forum/laos-f2.html
bonjour, Je peux t'envoyer les photocops de mes itinéraires si tu veux.En ce qui concerne le tien, nous sommes passés 20 km au nord de xanakham en provenance de Kasi, et les 50 km vers le Mékong jusqu'au bac sont goudronnés.De Paklai à Xayaburi, piste roulante, très poussiéreuse et fréquentée;je l'ai prise il y a 2 ans et des copains lillois cet hiver, ils étaient bien "repeints" à l'arrivée.Un foulard de soie sous l'intégral et un sur-pantalon genre K-Way sont à envisager.Ensuite, piste très roulante jusqu'au bac et tu retrouves le goudron de la 13 un
peu au nord de xiengngeun. De xayaburi, il ya + "sauvage"pour rejoindre LPQ.Monter jusqu'à Hongsa, bonne étape, puis monter jusqu'au Mekong àThaxuang et affrèter une pirogue jusqu'à PakBeng.Ensuite, oudomxai et LPQ. Ou bien, et c'est un de mes + beaux souvenirs de moto au Laos:De hongsa, tu reprends la piste vers Xayabouri et à 8km, à gauche.Après le 1er gué demande aux villageois la piste pour LPQ, tu vas entamer une journée mémorable, une demi douzaine de gués des dénivelés impressionnants en pleine forêt primaire mais sans difficultés majeures. Bref, le Laos comme je l'aime depuis si longtemps.
Au départ de LPQ, il y a une boucle sympa, mi route, mi piste:La 13 jusqu'à Pak mong, puis la 1Cjusqu'à Nong Kiaw. 2tape d'1 ou 2 nuits. Ensuite la 1Cjusqu'à Samsoun et à droite la piste qui redescend sur Pakxeng et rejoint la 13 le long de la Nam xuang.
PS. J'ai lu sur GT rider, la bible du coin, (D'accord Bopenyang?)que la piste de VTE à xanakham était +tôt coton
et qu'il valait mieux remonter la 13 jusqu'à Hinheup avant de redescendre sur Feuang.Je l'ai prévu en Janv, te dirais alors.
A + Lung.
Mille merci, comme c'est bien de trouver des gens de "terrain"!!Depuis des années que nous bourlinguons en 2 roues en Asie je n'avais jamais trouvé personne avec qui partager ces expériences. Jamais des réponses précises et concrètes aux questions.Cette fois je pense que que j'ai trouvé le bon personnage! je ne vais pas te lâcher de si tôt! Pour ce qui est de m'envoyer des photocops des itinéraires c'est super sympa.Veux tu le faire par la poste ou par mail en pièces scannées? Ou qu'elle région habites tu, nous sommes peut être pas loin qui sait?Vu que comme je le disais dans l'autre mail je n'ai plus de cartes précises du Laos ce n'est pas évident de se repérer donc ce sera beaucoup plus clair. GT rider en Anglais ça me gonfle un peu mais quand j'aurai un peu plus de temps je me forcerai pour la traduction. A bientôt merci
Rien compris à cette réponse mais pour te rassurer ce n'est pas à toi que je m'adresse dans mon message.
bonjour, le mieux, est que tu me contactes directement, car je suis nul et très lent à l'ordi.Ca ne me dérange pas au contraire et je ne pars pour 4 mois que le12 nov.Il ya qques mois, j'ai rencontre ACPN 13 sur ce forum et nous allons faire une balade d'1 mois avec 2 250cc en déc. Les lillois que j'ai aidés l'an passé sont rentrés enchantés. Il y a encore tant d'endroits magnifiques au nord Laos ou les "hordes" n'iront jamais. A la retraite, je peux donc conjuguer ma passion de la moto et l'amour de ce Laos que j'aime tant.
J'habite l'arrière pays grassois où la moto est encore un réel plaisir, alors que je suis stressé(-si, si-)dès que je descends sur le littoral!!!
En ce concerne les cartes, celle De GT_ Rider est suffisante pour nos balades.J'ai donné mes renseignements à David, le "patron"du site sur la piste de Hongsa à Xienmem, en face Luang Phrabang.Je l'ai incité à faire une carte uniquement du Nord. Il est d'accord mais n'a pas de très gros moyens.Il y a maintenant pas mal d'expats au laos et à Chiang mai, grands motards devant l'éternel, et maitres es-GPS, qui l'aident.Ce n'est qu'une question de patience.Si tu as besoin d'1 traduction du site, pas de problème, sauf avec certains intervenants australiens et encore, il n'y a pas l'accent...
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Do a loop.
What do you think would be the ideal itinerary?
From Athens, the best option would be to take either a flight or a bus to Kalamata. Rent a scooter and head either west or east. Is there a tertiary road (very lightly trafficked) or a path where I can ride slowly, take it easy, and enjoy the scenery without being bothered by traffic? I’d like to go all the way to Monemvasia, still hugging the coast. I need to find a way to avoid returning to Kalamata to drop off the scooter and catch a flight—maybe a small town where the train stops so I can head back to Athens.
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi!
I want to rent an off-road style motorcycle to get around the coast during my trip to Ecuador. I’m only finding options in Quito. Do you have any suggestions for me?
Thanks!
I want to rent an off-road style motorcycle to get around the coast during my trip to Ecuador. I’m only finding options in Quito. Do you have any suggestions for me?
Thanks!
Hi there,
I’m planning a sidecar trip to South America for 4 or 5 months at the end of this year.
I’m looking for info on shipping my vehicle by sea—possibly to Uruguay or another destination, as I haven’t finalized anything yet.
How do you get visas for the countries I’ll be crossing: Uruguay, Argentina, Bolivia, Peru, and Chile? Are they e-Visas, obtained at the border, or through embassies?
Where can I get vehicle insurance?
Lastly, if any bikers want to join us (my partner and me), we’re open to that possibility too.
Patrick
Hi, I’m planning to head to Morocco in early May on my 1200 RT. I’ll be leaving from Dax to Kenitra—happy to ride together if anyone’s up for it!
Hey everyone,
I’ve got 15 days off in June and I’m pretty undecided about where to go for a motorcycle road trip. Two strong desires are pulling me in different directions: Corsica or Norway.
Corsica has been a dream of mine for a long time: legendary roads, stunning landscapes, a unique vibe, and the perfect mix of sea and mountains. At the same time, I’m wondering if 2 weeks might be *too much* for Corsica—risking feeling like I’ve seen it all too quickly, especially on a bike. Since I also have an extra week free in May, I could use that specifically for Corsica. Maybe splitting it into two trips would make more sense? If so, which routes or regions would be the most interesting to plan for a 7-day trip?
On the other hand, Norway is *super* appealing. The landscapes look incredible, totally different from anything I’ve experienced, and it’d be a real “wow” trip. I know 15 days is still short for such a vast country. Getting all the way to the North Cape seems pretty much impossible in that time, but I’m curious about what realistic routes could be planned.
So I’m wondering: Is it better to save Norway for next year, take 3 weeks off, and do it *properly*? Or are 15 days enough for a first amazing taste of the country?
I’d love to hear about your experiences—whether it’s Corsica (ideal duration, routes) or Norway (what’s realistic in 2 weeks on a bike). Thanks in advance for your thoughts!
I’ve got 15 days off in June and I’m pretty undecided about where to go for a motorcycle road trip. Two strong desires are pulling me in different directions: Corsica or Norway.
Corsica has been a dream of mine for a long time: legendary roads, stunning landscapes, a unique vibe, and the perfect mix of sea and mountains. At the same time, I’m wondering if 2 weeks might be *too much* for Corsica—risking feeling like I’ve seen it all too quickly, especially on a bike. Since I also have an extra week free in May, I could use that specifically for Corsica. Maybe splitting it into two trips would make more sense? If so, which routes or regions would be the most interesting to plan for a 7-day trip?
On the other hand, Norway is *super* appealing. The landscapes look incredible, totally different from anything I’ve experienced, and it’d be a real “wow” trip. I know 15 days is still short for such a vast country. Getting all the way to the North Cape seems pretty much impossible in that time, but I’m curious about what realistic routes could be planned.
So I’m wondering: Is it better to save Norway for next year, take 3 weeks off, and do it *properly*? Or are 15 days enough for a first amazing taste of the country?
I’d love to hear about your experiences—whether it’s Corsica (ideal duration, routes) or Norway (what’s realistic in 2 weeks on a bike). Thanks in advance for your thoughts!
Hello,
I'm thinking of buying a used small motorcycle to travel around the country for a month and a half.
I've done this in other countries without putting the registration in my name—is that possible in Guinea given the apparently frequent checks, or do I have to go through the paperwork?
Thanks.
Hello,
My dream is to ride Route 66 by motorcycle. I have a disability—while I’m not in a wheelchair, my walking mobility is reduced.
The ideal scenario would be to have a motorcycle driver and ride as their passenger on an organized trip.
Are there any guides or services like this offered by travel agencies?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Hello,
I’ve got a plan with a friend to go on a motorcycle road trip in 2028 or 2029, starting in Santiago de Chile and ending in Ushuaia, for about a month.
Has anyone done a trip like this before, and what’s the best time of year?
I’ve heard there can be quite a bit of wind depending on the season.
Thanks for any tips!
Cheers,
PA
I'm seriously considering heading to Nepal to do some nice motorcycle loops... my goal is also to do the Kailash Yatra round trip from Kathmandu, in a small group with a guide, in May '26... but here's the thing—I'm solo! So if you're up for sharing a similar adventure, hit me up... Cheers, Frankoys
It's all in the title: I'm heading to Krabi soon and want to rent a scooter for a few weeks, but after reading comments about all kinds of scams, I'm reaching out to ask where and how (read: *the right way*) to rent one.
Thanks for your tips and advice.
Hello everyone! Like every year, a winter migration is on the horizon (revised plan): this time, it’ll be Dakar, or even Abidjan, via Morocco, Mauritania, and Senegal.
Looking for an experienced motorcyclist or pillion rider—small build preferred—on a GSA 1250 with a comfy seat and luggage setup, available from early November to late December 2025. I’d like to plan the trip together (important to me) to make sure we’re on the same wavelength.
Don’t hesitate to get in touch!
Didier
Hi everyone...
Looking for travel companions to ride from France to Senegal by motorcycle.
I’m Paul, 37, and I’ve already done a bit of riding in Morocco.
For now, I’m solo, riding a 1998 SUZUKI DR 650 with some basic gear to keep things smooth. I’ll have a tent so we can do a few nights under the stars. We’ll need to coordinate departure dates—"ideally in November."
I’m currently checking out routes to take. Any tips would be welcome! :)
Have a great day, everyone!!!!!
Looking for travel companions to ride from France to Senegal by motorcycle.
I’m Paul, 37, and I’ve already done a bit of riding in Morocco.
For now, I’m solo, riding a 1998 SUZUKI DR 650 with some basic gear to keep things smooth. I’ll have a tent so we can do a few nights under the stars. We’ll need to coordinate departure dates—"ideally in November."
I’m currently checking out routes to take. Any tips would be welcome! :)
Have a great day, everyone!!!!!
Hi there!
I’m heading to Vietnam and Laos with a buddy next week for a month. We’re thinking of renting motorbikes, especially to do the Ha Giang Loop. We don’t have an international license, just our Belgian one. Is that enough? If not, is it risky?
Thanks for the info! !
I’m heading to Vietnam and Laos with a buddy next week for a month. We’re thinking of renting motorbikes, especially to do the Ha Giang Loop. We don’t have an international license, just our Belgian one. Is that enough? If not, is it risky?
Thanks for the info! !
Hi there,
In January 2026, I’m planning a motorbike trip through northern Vietnam for 3–4 weeks.
Must-dos: Hanoi, RC4, Dien Bien Phu, and of course the must-see landscapes.
I’m looking for any great tips, ideas… and maybe even a riding partner.
Cheers
In January 2026, I’m planning a motorbike trip through northern Vietnam for 3–4 weeks.
Must-dos: Hanoi, RC4, Dien Bien Phu, and of course the must-see landscapes.
I’m looking for any great tips, ideas… and maybe even a riding partner.
Cheers
Hi everyone,
In November, we’re planning to do the Ha Giang loop and the RC4 by motorbike without a guide. 😎 We’re looking for a decent place to stay/rent in Ha Giang.
If anyone has any info, we’d be really interested.
Thanks in advance! 😉 Ladava
In November, we’re planning to do the Ha Giang loop and the RC4 by motorbike without a guide. 😎 We’re looking for a decent place to stay/rent in Ha Giang.
If anyone has any info, we’d be really interested.
Thanks in advance! 😉 Ladava
Hello! We’re planning a motorcycle trip that will include a visit to Auschwitz-Birkenau in June 2026.
We’re unsure (still debating) whether we should stay at a hotel on-site and get to the memorial with an Uber (leaving our bikes at the hotel) and book a guided tour, or base ourselves in Kraków and take a tour that includes transport.
One thing’s for sure—we’d prefer a guide in French since we don’t speak English 😅.
Could you share your experiences or advice? I understand we need to book online rather than on-site. Thanks in advance for your replies!
Could you share your experiences or advice? I understand we need to book online rather than on-site. Thanks in advance for your replies!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a road trip in Cuba and was wondering if there are any bike rental places (125/500cc) with reasonable rates—not the Harley rental places!
Thanks for your help. Wave of headlights! !
I’m planning a road trip in Cuba and was wondering if there are any bike rental places (125/500cc) with reasonable rates—not the Harley rental places!
Thanks for your help. Wave of headlights! !
Hello,
Next October we’re planning to ride the Ruta de la Plata by motorcycle—a historic Spanish route that runs from Gijón to Seville, also known as the N630.
Has anyone here already ridden it?
Unfortunately, I’m worried that parts of the N630 may have disappeared or merged with the A66 motorway, forcing us to ride long stretches of highway, which we’d rather avoid.
Thanks in advance for any tips or details about this route!





