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Bonsoir à tous, je dois partir en Turquie bientôt et j’ai un doute concernant la prolongation de 5 ans pour les carte d’ identité Périmées.
Quelqu’un y est-il allé récemment?
Merci
Turquie et prolongation de 5 ans pour les cartes d'identité périmées
by Zenzen31
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Bonsoir.
Que dit le site du consulat général de Turquie à Paris ? paris.cg.mfa.gov.tr/.../ShowInfoNote/121573
Pour les séjours touristiques inférieurs ou égaux à trois mois, les ressortissants des pays du Conseil de l’Europe peuvent entrer sur le territoire turc munis de l’un des documents énumérés dans la liste suivante: - FRANCE : Carte d’identité en cours de validité** (la date d'expiration doit être valable minimum 6 mois après votre date de retour) ou passeport en cours de validité ou périmé depuis moins de 5 ans. **LES CARTES D’IDENTITÉ FRANÇAISE DÉLIVRÉES A DES PERSONNES MAJEURES ENTRE le 01.01.2004 et le 31.12.2013 PEUVENT ÊTRE UTILISÉES CINQ ANS SUPPLÉMENTAIRES.
Mais que dit le consulat général de France à Istanbul en date du 12/09/2017 ? istanbul.consulfrance.org/Titres-de-voyage Le contraire
Les autorités turques ne reconnaissant pas la prorogation de 5 ans de la durée de validité des cartes nationales d’identité françaises délivrées entre le 1er janvier 2004 et le 31 décembre 2013 (pour lesquelles cette modification ne peut être matérialisée sur le document plastifié), les voyageurs qui utiliseraient une carte nationale d’identité portant une date de fin de validité dépassée ne seront pas admis en Turquie.
Par conséquent, les Français qui envisagent de voyager avec leur carte nationalité d’identité doivent, pour être autorisés à entrer sur le territoire turc, s’assurer que la date de validité indiquée au verso de ce document dépasse d’au moins 90 jours la date de l’entrée en Turquie.
Un passeport périmé, utilisé comme document de voyage, ne permet pas à son titulaire d’être admis sur le territoire turc.
Comme indiqué plus haut, la durée de validité du passeport doit dépasser d’au moins 90 jours la date de l’entrée en Turquie.
Alors que le site de France diplomatie dit que la CNI +5 passe en général. www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/...tion/turquie/#entree
Et que ce même site cite la Turquie dans la liste des pays ayant officiellement accepté la CNI +5. www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/...nationale-d-identite
Et le site de IATA sur les documents précise bien que le passeport périmé est accepté, ce qui va donc dans le sens du consulat de Turquie. www.iatatravelcentre.com/...ent-requirements.htm
Si tu étais bien majeure lors de la délivrance de ta carte alors tu peux entrer en Turquie avec.
Attention si tu prends l'avion car la compagnie aérienne peut se montrer plus restrictive.
Que dit le site du consulat général de Turquie à Paris ? paris.cg.mfa.gov.tr/.../ShowInfoNote/121573
Pour les séjours touristiques inférieurs ou égaux à trois mois, les ressortissants des pays du Conseil de l’Europe peuvent entrer sur le territoire turc munis de l’un des documents énumérés dans la liste suivante: - FRANCE : Carte d’identité en cours de validité** (la date d'expiration doit être valable minimum 6 mois après votre date de retour) ou passeport en cours de validité ou périmé depuis moins de 5 ans. **LES CARTES D’IDENTITÉ FRANÇAISE DÉLIVRÉES A DES PERSONNES MAJEURES ENTRE le 01.01.2004 et le 31.12.2013 PEUVENT ÊTRE UTILISÉES CINQ ANS SUPPLÉMENTAIRES.
Mais que dit le consulat général de France à Istanbul en date du 12/09/2017 ? istanbul.consulfrance.org/Titres-de-voyage Le contraire
Les autorités turques ne reconnaissant pas la prorogation de 5 ans de la durée de validité des cartes nationales d’identité françaises délivrées entre le 1er janvier 2004 et le 31 décembre 2013 (pour lesquelles cette modification ne peut être matérialisée sur le document plastifié), les voyageurs qui utiliseraient une carte nationale d’identité portant une date de fin de validité dépassée ne seront pas admis en Turquie.
Par conséquent, les Français qui envisagent de voyager avec leur carte nationalité d’identité doivent, pour être autorisés à entrer sur le territoire turc, s’assurer que la date de validité indiquée au verso de ce document dépasse d’au moins 90 jours la date de l’entrée en Turquie.
Un passeport périmé, utilisé comme document de voyage, ne permet pas à son titulaire d’être admis sur le territoire turc.
Comme indiqué plus haut, la durée de validité du passeport doit dépasser d’au moins 90 jours la date de l’entrée en Turquie.
Alors que le site de France diplomatie dit que la CNI +5 passe en général. www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/...tion/turquie/#entree
Et que ce même site cite la Turquie dans la liste des pays ayant officiellement accepté la CNI +5. www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/...nationale-d-identite
Et le site de IATA sur les documents précise bien que le passeport périmé est accepté, ce qui va donc dans le sens du consulat de Turquie. www.iatatravelcentre.com/...ent-requirements.htm
Si tu étais bien majeure lors de la délivrance de ta carte alors tu peux entrer en Turquie avec.
Attention si tu prends l'avion car la compagnie aérienne peut se montrer plus restrictive.
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