Vallée du Draa ou du Dades? (Maroc)
by Silou2
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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bonjour,
petite question d itineraire: vallée du Draa ou du Dades?
Il nous faut faire un choix, notre temps etant limité...
Nous louerons tres certainement une voiture de tourisme...
merci de vos conseils
Cécile
Hello ! c'est une question qui est souvent posée, allez chercher dans *recherche* ou piochez dans les anciennes questions, vous obtiendrez des réponses. Au bout de maintes fois la même question posée les gens n'ont plus trop envie d'y répondre. Bonne route.
Lorsque j'en aurais assez d'aller voir au loin j'irai voir d'où je viens.
moi je suis de la vallee du draa a tansikht et 'habite rennes donc pour moi le paysage est vmt plus bo dans la valee du draa si vous voulais otre conseil nesitez pas
tansikhte
celà dépend de votre recherche.
Vallée du draa : paysages très dénudés, très lunaire
Vallée du dadés : très luxuriante, très verte avec beaucoup de cultures
Celà aussi dépend devotre point d'entrée dans le Maroc du Sud et de celui de sortie.
A nouveau le grand spécialiste frappe !!!
>>>> Vallée du draa : paysages très dénudés, très lunaire <<<<< alors qu' une des plus longues palmeraie du Maroc, presque 100 km depuis Agdz, en fait la renommée !!!
>>>> Vallée du dadés : très luxuriante, très verte avec beaucoup de cultures <<<< la route entre Ouarzazate et el Kelaa n'est pas des plus verdoyantes !!!!
>>> Celà aussi dépend devotre point d'entrée dans le Maroc du Sud et de celui de sortie. <<< De toute facon il n'y a pratiquement qu'un point d'entrée, pour le sud, passage à Ouarzazate obligatoire, et comme on est au carrefour des 2 vallées .....
>>>> Vallée du draa : paysages très dénudés, très lunaire <<<<< alors qu' une des plus longues palmeraie du Maroc, presque 100 km depuis Agdz, en fait la renommée !!!
>>>> Vallée du dadés : très luxuriante, très verte avec beaucoup de cultures <<<< la route entre Ouarzazate et el Kelaa n'est pas des plus verdoyantes !!!!
>>> Celà aussi dépend devotre point d'entrée dans le Maroc du Sud et de celui de sortie. <<< De toute facon il n'y a pratiquement qu'un point d'entrée, pour le sud, passage à Ouarzazate obligatoire, et comme on est au carrefour des 2 vallées .....
La vallée du Draa au départ de Ouarzazate jusqu'à Agdz si ce n'est pas lunaire c'est quoi alors!!!La palmeraie ne concerne qu'à partir d'Agdz à zagora
La vallée du Dadès ne commence qu'à partir de Boumalne et et non Ouarzazate. et à el kelaa c'est la vallée des roses.
ait donc à Ouarzazate. Bravo.
Soyez gentil de garder un peu d'humilité on ne sait jamais un jour vous pourriez en avoir besoin autant vous exercer maintenant.
Si c'est la meme carte que celle ou tu lis des kms fantaisistes je comprend que tu sois un peu perdu !!
L'oued Dades vient de "gorges du Dades", de notoriété publique, part à l'ouest à Boumalne, passe par El Kelaa, ou il recoit les eaux de loued M'goun, qui lui coule dans la "vallée des roses", et va traverser le lac de Ouarzazate, ou il va alimenter, parcimonieusement, l'oued Draa, qui au début, sur 60 km est à l'écart de la route seche et montagneuse, et qui ensuite devient une des plus luxuriantes palmeraies du Maroc !!
Nos amis VFistes souhaitent des informations fiables, et ce ne sont ni des infos fantaisistes ni les allusions sur mon humilité, qui les renseigneront.
L'oued Dades vient de "gorges du Dades", de notoriété publique, part à l'ouest à Boumalne, passe par El Kelaa, ou il recoit les eaux de loued M'goun, qui lui coule dans la "vallée des roses", et va traverser le lac de Ouarzazate, ou il va alimenter, parcimonieusement, l'oued Draa, qui au début, sur 60 km est à l'écart de la route seche et montagneuse, et qui ensuite devient une des plus luxuriantes palmeraies du Maroc !!
Nos amis VFistes souhaitent des informations fiables, et ce ne sont ni des infos fantaisistes ni les allusions sur mon humilité, qui les renseigneront.
Inutile de faire un cours de Géo. le lac de OZZ n'a jamais été alimenté par l'oued dadès ni la vallée des roses ni le g'moun.
Il faut réviser de tps en tps.
Soyez gentil de garder un peu d'humilité on ne sait jamais un jour vous pourriez en avoir besoin autant vous exercer maintenant.
Ce que recherchent les lecteurs, ce n'est ni l'humilité, ni vos infos erronées... Vous polluez ce site avec des réponses à chaques fois bidons !!! Alors, vous êtes peut-être du Maroc comme votre "pedigree" le prétend, mais avant d'en parler, il serait opportun de le visiter...
Ce que recherchent les lecteurs, ce n'est ni l'humilité, ni vos infos erronées... Vous polluez ce site avec des réponses à chaques fois bidons !!! Alors, vous êtes peut-être du Maroc comme votre "pedigree" le prétend, mais avant d'en parler, il serait opportun de le visiter...
Le Tit
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C'est une appréciation personnelle car je connais beaucoup de gens qui visitent le draa pour ce coté insolite justement du parcours OZZ/AGDZ. les palmeraies les gens s'ils n'ont pas beaucoup de temps et qu'ils ne veulent pas faire de grandes distances ils en ont beaucoup plus près de OZZ il 'n'ont pas besoin d 'aller si loin pour en trouver.Skoura par exemple et en plus c'est sur la route des gorges.
salut,
oui je comprend c un choix difficile , mais si tu aime les palmiers et le paysage desertique c le draa , et si tu aime la montagne c dades .
pour moi aucune hesitation DADES en allant jusqu'a M'smrir.
je suis du dades , et jai jamais vu des pamliers chez moi .a toudgha si il ya une belle palmeraie c vrai.
bonjour,
Ce qui est communément appelé "vallée du Dades", et étiqueté comme tel sur la carte michelin est situé entre Boumalne Dades et le lac de Ouarzazate (ne pas confondre avec les gorges , qui elles sont en amont de Boumalne Dades, en allant vers Msemrir).
Cette vallée, donc, regorge de palmiers tout le long, dont la palmeraie de Skoura, une des plus importantes.
exemples , palmeraies de Sidi Flah, et Ould Merzoug traversées par l' oued Dades.
Ce qui est communément appelé "vallée du Dades", et étiqueté comme tel sur la carte michelin est situé entre Boumalne Dades et le lac de Ouarzazate (ne pas confondre avec les gorges , qui elles sont en amont de Boumalne Dades, en allant vers Msemrir).
Cette vallée, donc, regorge de palmiers tout le long, dont la palmeraie de Skoura, une des plus importantes.
exemples , palmeraies de Sidi Flah, et Ould Merzoug traversées par l' oued Dades.
oui je comprends ça , mais ici on appelle dades un espace limité entre kelaat mgouna et msmrir .c a dire le long de la riviere dades.et on a bcp de figuiers et d'autre fruits mais pas des dattiers.
si on vx parler du meilleur je crois que c plutot la vallée de bouteghrar , ça coupe le souffle vraimnt.
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👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)









