Bal'isa
Visa dépassant six mois pour l'Indonésie?
by Baubisa
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
je suis enseignante et envisage de prendre un mi temps annualisé l'année prochaine pour retrouver mon ami balinais. Nous n'arrivons pas obtenir de visa touristique pour qu'il vienne en France. Alors on prends le probleme dans l'autre sens. Or les visas pour l'Indonésie ne dépassent pas 6 mois. J'envisage de travailler de septembre a février puis de partir de février à aout compris.
Est ce que quelqu'un a deja fait l'experience du mi temps annualisé et qu'un saurait-il me renseigner sur les possibilités de rester 7 mois et non 6 ?
Merci pour vos infos
Bal'isa
Bal'isa
Bal'Isa
Bonjour,
Effectivement ce n'est pour le moment pas possibe d'obtenir un visa de plus de 6 mois. Une solution courante consiste à effectuer un A/R vers Singapour ou Kuala Lumpur au bout du 6ème mois et de réobtenir un visa à l'arrivée.
Si tu ne veux pas sortir du pays, tu pourras sans mal "t'arranger" pour obtenir les mêmes tampons sans être vraiment sorti, moyennant finances bien entendu... Enfin bon en s'y prenant à l'avance tu peux obtenir des vols air asia pas chers pour KL et au moins tu restes en toute légalité.
Là-bas les problèmes de visas sont un des sujets de prédilections des bules (occidentaux).
bonne chance
Un jour ici, l'autre là-bas...
Merci Annita pour ta réponse, notre situation pour la venue de mon ami en France est tres compliquée, contexte politique oblige, j'essaie donc de trouver d'autres solutions pour que nous ayons des moments à 2.
Dons si je comprends bien il faut que j'attende la fin de mon premier visa et donc au bout des 6 mois je sors de Bali, passe qq jours a KL ou Singapour et que je re-rentre avec un visa touristique.
Petite précision, je dois quitter Bali pour y re-rentrer mais puis-je aller ou bon me semble genre flores ou ile du coin ???
merci encore pr ton aide
Bal'isa
Bal'isa
Bal'Isa
Bonjour,
Dans les faits, le visa SOSIAL BUDAYA est très difficile à obtenir plus de 4 mois, déjà, pour les 2 renouvellements, tu vas voir la galère... bon, évidemment, si tu résides tout près du bureau de l'immigration, ça ira mieux. Prévois de payer plus cher que le prix légal sauf si évidemment tu veux batailler ferme et ne pas lâcher un centime à ces gros tas corrompus. C'est possible mais ça n'oeuvrera pas pour tes relations futures avec eux... et ils sont tout-puissants!!! Il vaut mieux que ton ami se charge de tes formalités. Au bout de 4 mois, il faut d'autres papiers, ça ne se passe pas seulement à l'immigration, mais aussi auprès d'autres bureaux. Prévois plutôt, à mon avis, de sortir au bout de 4 mois, de passer quelques jours à l'étranger (Malaisie?), et de revenir pour 3 mois...
Sinon, tu dois quitter le pays, pas seulement Bali! Java, Florès, Sumba etc... sont en Indonésie et y passer n'influencera en rien tes démarches avec l'administration!!
Bon courage collègue 😉!
PS: Pour faire venir tom ami en France, une seule solution (pour combien de temps encore???), le mariage...
PS2: Rien n'oblige l'immigration à accepter une prolongation de visa... donc reste cool surtout si c'est toi qui t'en occupes!
Merci Muhammad pour tes lumières.
J'avoue être complètement abattue en ce moment par ce refus de visa touristique mais depuis mai ... fallait s'y attendre.
Il est bien entendu que je n'ai aucunement l'intention de batailler sur des question financieres, il me semble, pour avoir passé déjà qq temps a Bali que c'est peine perdue. Sais tu ou se trouve le bureau de l'immigration ???
Si je comprends bien ce que tu m'expliques, le mieux serait de sortir d'Indonésie au bout de 4 mois mais comment ferai-je pour les 3 mois a suivre, au retour je n'aurai qu'un visa touriste de 30 jours. Je devrai donc ressortir chaque mois ??? Ça me parait bien compliqué !
Sinon, pour la question du mariage ça s'annonce très très compliqué dans la mesure ou le gouvernement ne le laisse pas entrer sur "nos Terres". Or j'ai lu sur le site de l'ambassade de Frce en Indo que l'ambassadeur n'était apte a marier que des couples dont les 2 membres sont français. Est ce que tu as des infos sur la question ??? Comment on se marie a l'étranger, puis-je me marier lors d'une de mes visites a mon ami ???
La politique gouvernementale étant ce qu'elle est, le durcissement se fait sentir dans tous les domaines et je crains même qu'on ne veuille même pas nous marier.
J'essaie de garder le moral et tente un recours d'appel de cette décision de refus de visa. Du mal tt de même a rester optimiste.
Merci encore collègue !
Bal'Isa
Comme le dit Muhammad pour les renouvellements c'est un peu galère... la première fois passe encore ; la seconde il faut deux fois plus de papiers et la 3è et la 4è il faut faire plein d'aller-retour entre Jimbaran et Denpasar.
Au passage, le bureau de l'immigration est juste à côté de l'aéroport, location pratique si tu habites dans les environs de Kuta-Legian etc...
Mais bon ne t'affoles pas, une fois encore avec quelques euros de plus tout s'arrange et il y a des agences du style BALI MODE à Kuta qui s'occuppent de tout à ta place pour environ 500 000 roupiahs par mois au lieu de 300 000 on va dire si tu fais tout par toi même.
Ton visa te permet bien entendu de te déplacer un peu partout en Indonésie : Java Flores Sulawésie etc etc tu n'es pas cantonnée à Bali !!
Après si vous voulez vous marier bien sûr que c'est possible, je le sais bien mon mari est Indonésien ! Il faut juste être patient...
Si tu as des questions à ce sujet envoies-moi un MP.
Bonne soirée
Un jour ici, l'autre là-bas...
Merci pr ta réponse .
Mais en fait je reste sceptique parce que lorsqu'on sort du pays, a l'entrée on ne peut obtenir que des visas de 30 jours. Les visas 2 mois se font seulement en France a l'ambassade d'indonésie. Ce qui sous entend qu'il faudrait que je sorte tous les mois ... pffff bon ok y'a pire dans la vie mais c'est neanmoins contraignant.
Qu'en penses tu ?
Bal'Isa
a penang dans une agence de voyage ils 'occupent de tout comme a bangkok .....
airasia a maintenant un vol direct bkk-jakarta pas cher
comme les denpasar -singapore de jetstar, tiger ou les promos garuda.......
le visa 2 mois a singapour a l'ambassade impossible mais ils te renvoient a un brooker indonesien qui te le fait pour 170 sin $ avec billet aller retour sur l 'indo plutot cher au final !!!!
comme les denpasar -singapore de jetstar, tiger ou les promos garuda.......
le visa 2 mois a singapour a l'ambassade impossible mais ils te renvoient a un brooker indonesien qui te le fait pour 170 sin $ avec billet aller retour sur l 'indo plutot cher au final !!!!
Ooooops tu noirçis le tableau!!!
D'abord, au bout de 4 mois, tu ressors, tu passes un moment en Malaisie, et tu redemandes un autre visa sosial budaya!!! Tu fais ta demande à l'ambassade d'Indonésie de Kuala Lumpur par exemple!!
Pour le mariage, si si, on peut se marier en Indonésie, l'ambassade de France est rodée à cela, et dans mon cas avait été très très aidante... par contre, j'ai compté 3 mois sur place (En Indonésie) à ne faire que m'occuper du mariage. Et sans l'aide de ma belle-famille et de mes parents qui réglaient les questions de publication des bans depuis ma ville natale, je n'aurais JAMAIS réussi! Va sur WWW.EXPAT.OR.ID pour plus d'infos...
Sinon, actuellement, les indonésiens parlent d'une taxe de 50 millions de roupies pour un mariage avec un étranger!!! A vérifier! Mais il semble que les choses se soient encore compliquées...
Donc, patience, si tu tiens vraiment à te marier, tu y arriveras!!! Et personnellement, batailler comme ça, c'est une belle preuve d'amour!
Bon courage!
PS: A l'immigration, forcément suspicieuse, tu expliqueras que tu fais des séjours à répétition pour PREPARER ton mariage... et tu ne lâcheras des $ supplémentaires qu'à celui qui a quelque chose à proposer en échange!!!
PS: A l'immigration, forcément suspicieuse, tu expliqueras que tu fais des séjours à répétition pour PREPARER ton mariage... et tu ne lâcheras des $ supplémentaires qu'à celui qui a quelque chose à proposer en échange!!!
Bonjour,
Le mois dernier, j'ai rencontre a Flores 2 jeunes femmes belges qui restaient plusieurs mois en indonesie. Pour leur visa sosbud, elles passent par BALI IDE, ils sont serieux et tout se passe parfaitement bien concernant la paperasse. Le tarif est d'environ 40 ou 50 euros par mois. Ce n'est pas la premiere fois que j'entend parler d'eux, et que positivement !
Pour le mois supplementaire tu n'as pas le choix, il faut sortir du pays.
BON COURAGE
Marion
Marion
Marion
Merci encore a toi Muhammad
Si je comprends bien toi aussi tu es marié avec une Indonésienne. Bon choix j'ai envie de dire mais là n'est pas la question ... Pourrais je avoir qq détails si ce n'est pas trop indiscret ??? Du style est-elle venue en France avant votre mariage, comment se fait-elle à ce nouveau pays ??? et la barriere de la langue qu'en est-il ?
J'aurai bien entendu plein d'autres questions mais je ne veux pas abuser de ton temps de vacances ;-)
Bonne fin de semaine
Bal'Isa
Tu sais, pour l'instant, pour nous, ça se passe bien, malgré quelques moments difficiles... mais ça ne veut pas dire grand chose. Certains mariages mixtes se terminent par un fiasco, d'autres non, certains étrangers s'adaptent bien en France, d'autres ne s'y font pas du tout... ça dépend des tempéraments, de la façon de voir les choses... Ce qui est sûr c'est que ce sont des mariages beaucoup plus difficiles que des mariages ordinaires. Ma femme n'était jamais venue en France avant, elle a fait le grand saut après notre mariage, directement pour deux ans. La vie en France l'ennuie, elle trouve ça triste, les gens qui font la gueule, le froid, les portes fermées, la sophistication des rapports... mais elle est consciente des avantages du point de vue de la santé, sécurité, du niveau de vie... et elle apprécie d'avoir l'opportunité d'aider sa famille tous les mois. Mais elle aimerait pouvoir concilier les deux et espère sincèrement que nous pourrons nous installer à JKT un de ces 4, sans que je quitte mon boulot pour autant... Pour ton ami, je me suis laissé dire que la vie à Bali était douce, ça sera peut-être terrible de déménager en France!! Tu es de quel coin si ça n'est pas indiscret? ... il parle anglais couramment? ça peut-être un avantage, mais un piège aussi, il pourra communiquer avec suffisamment de gens sans avoir à faire l'effort d'apprendre le français! Ce qui est INDISPENSABLE! La langue est bien sûr une difficulté supplémentaire...
Sinon, pour tout ce qui concerne les formalités administratives, renseigne-toi auprès de l'ambassade à Jakarta, mes infos datent de 2003... et je ne suis pas marié avec une balinaise... donc, une situation forcément différente...
Ah oui, une difficulté non négligeable, c'est aussi l'impossibilité de se fréquenter sérieusement avant de prendre la décision de se marier... J'ai eu la chance de pouvoir fréquenter ma femme deux ans avant de l'épouser, mais nous serions-nous mariés si j'avais eu la possibilité de rester plus longtemps encore en Indonésie??... Cette urgence pousse certain(e)s à prendre des décisions trop rapides...
Voilà!
Sinon, pour tout ce qui concerne les formalités administratives, renseigne-toi auprès de l'ambassade à Jakarta, mes infos datent de 2003... et je ne suis pas marié avec une balinaise... donc, une situation forcément différente...
Ah oui, une difficulté non négligeable, c'est aussi l'impossibilité de se fréquenter sérieusement avant de prendre la décision de se marier... J'ai eu la chance de pouvoir fréquenter ma femme deux ans avant de l'épouser, mais nous serions-nous mariés si j'avais eu la possibilité de rester plus longtemps encore en Indonésie??... Cette urgence pousse certain(e)s à prendre des décisions trop rapides...
Voilà!
Possibilite de visa :- Social Budaya 2 mois avec possibilite d'extension 4 mois (frais d'extension 200 000 roupias)
1. Visa tres facile a obtenir à l'ambassade si vous avez un sponsor indonésien
2. Apres sorti du territoire possibilite de redemander le visa socal budaya dans n'importe quel ambassade ou consulat indonésien
3. Pour les personnes maries a une indonesienne possibilite de le transformer en Kitas pour 1 250 000 roupias l'année (nouvelle loi sorti en 2007)
4. "" " "" "" "" "" "" "" d'obtenir la nationalite indonesienne apres 5 ans de vie en indonesie initerrompu ( Undang Aout 2006)
Yaya
Pour ton ami balinais la seule solution en effet pour qu'il puisse venir en france est le mariage ce que j'ai fait -^Ca va faire 3 ans que mon mari vit en france et cela ne lui plait pas - la différence de culture est trop énorme pour lui - les français qui critiquent - qui se plaignent ... D'ailleurs ce n'est pas facile pour trouver du travail et l'ennui arrive vite - Enfin bon finalement pour que tout le monde soit heureux on a décidé cette année de retourner à bali et de s'y installer - Maintenant à moi les sacrifices hehehe -
Ok merci bcp pour les réponses, nos projets mariage se concretisent et advienne que pourra on ne peut pas prévoir ou se poser a long terme. Pour l'instant faut que je trouve la meilleur solution visa pour y aller et y rester le plus lgtps possible .
Bonnes fetes de fin d'année
Bal'Isa
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See you, Jean.
Hello,
We’ll soon be moving to Madagascar long-term.
As a French national, I need to obtain a short-stay visa that can be converted to a long-stay one. To do this, I have to send the required documents to the Madagascar embassy in Paris.
No issues with that procedure so far.
If I get this visa, once I arrive in Madagascar, I’ll need to provide the same documents to the Ministry of the Interior in Anosy. I’m trying to find an email address or website for the Ministry to check which documents I need to submit (I think they ask for additional ones).
If you have any info on this, I’d appreciate your replies.
Best regards,
M. Buisson Eric
Hi there,
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
Hi,
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m spending a few days in San Pedro de Atacama (Chile) and would like to cross the Argentine border to make a loop toward Salta and then return to Chile to drop off the rental car.
I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale
Hi everyone,
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Hi
Has anyone been to Rwanda recently and gotten a 3-month visa on arrival easily?
Thanks




