Voyage de deux semaines dans l'ouest des États-unis sans voiture, réalisable?
by Mumu0574
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour à tous!
Je suis nouveau sur ce forum et j'espère que certains d'entre vous pourront m'aider.
je part avec mon meilleur ami du 1 au 15 mai 2010 sur la côte ouest des Etats Unis.
Ni l'un ni l'autre n'avons 21 ans révolus au moment du voyage;nous ne pouvons donc pas louer de voiture pour la durée du voyage.
Cependant nous voulons visiter plusieurs villes et plusieurs parcs naturels durant ce séjour tels que:
- San Francisco
- Yellowstone
- Yosemite
- Sequoia National Park
- Las Vegas
- Grand Canyon
- Los Angeles
Est-ce réalisable d'envisager tout cela sans voiture?
Si oui quels moyens avons nous pour nous déplacer (bus, train, stop, ...)
Et si cela est trop chargé quels sont les visites a privilégier sachant que nous passeront forcément par San Francisco (vol allez et retour).
De plus nous comptons camper dans les différents parc nationaux ...est-ce possible?
Merci d'avance de toutes vos idées et de toutes vos réponses.
Cordialement.
Bonjour,
Est-ce réalisable d'envisager tout cela sans voiture?
Pour être simple : NON !
En train, vous pouvez faire SFO<=> Los Angeles et c'est à peu près tout En bus (www.greyhound.com) : relier toutes les villes très facile. Mais AUCUN des parcs visés n'est desservi en bus. La ville la plus proche de Yellowstone où s'arrête le bus serait Jackson... mais ça reste assez loin ! Pour Grand Canyon on devrait pouvoir arriver à Williams, mais reste 100km à faire !
Sans voiture aux USA, on est littéralement à poil !!
Est-ce réalisable d'envisager tout cela sans voiture?
Pour être simple : NON !
En train, vous pouvez faire SFO<=> Los Angeles et c'est à peu près tout En bus (www.greyhound.com) : relier toutes les villes très facile. Mais AUCUN des parcs visés n'est desservi en bus. La ville la plus proche de Yellowstone où s'arrête le bus serait Jackson... mais ça reste assez loin ! Pour Grand Canyon on devrait pouvoir arriver à Williams, mais reste 100km à faire !
Sans voiture aux USA, on est littéralement à poil !!
Si vous ne réussissez jamais rien du premier coup, n'essayez pas le parachutisme !
Bonjour,
J'ai envie de dire : même avec une voiture, c'est très difficile!
Selon ma vision des choses, voici le temps nécessaire pour que ça vaille le coup.
- San Francisco 3J - Yellowstone 4J - Yosemite 2J - Sequoia National Park 1J - Las Vegas 2J - Grand Canyon 1J - Los Angeles 3J
Tu me dira ça fait soit 16 jours mais il faut pas oublier que SF Yosemite c'est une quinzaine d'heures de route et presque autant pour rejoindre LV soit 3 jours de route (en voiture!)
A moins de 21 ans vous pouvez tout de même louer une voiture (il me semble?) mais vous allez payer plein pot
Quelques conseils (sans parler du problème de voiture):
Enlevez Yellwstone et ça devrait être OK. Camper est possible, les campings sont "bon marché" Attendre d'avoir 21 ans? Ne soyez pas préssés, je pense qu'avec le recul, vous vous direz "si on avais su, on aurait attendu d'avoir plus de temps et de moyens pour mieux en profiter". Enfin, c'est mon cas, je repousse mon voyage pour réunir tout les paramètres plutôt que de "bacler".
J'ai envie de dire : même avec une voiture, c'est très difficile!
Selon ma vision des choses, voici le temps nécessaire pour que ça vaille le coup.
- San Francisco 3J - Yellowstone 4J - Yosemite 2J - Sequoia National Park 1J - Las Vegas 2J - Grand Canyon 1J - Los Angeles 3J
Tu me dira ça fait soit 16 jours mais il faut pas oublier que SF Yosemite c'est une quinzaine d'heures de route et presque autant pour rejoindre LV soit 3 jours de route (en voiture!)
A moins de 21 ans vous pouvez tout de même louer une voiture (il me semble?) mais vous allez payer plein pot
Quelques conseils (sans parler du problème de voiture):
Enlevez Yellwstone et ça devrait être OK. Camper est possible, les campings sont "bon marché" Attendre d'avoir 21 ans? Ne soyez pas préssés, je pense qu'avec le recul, vous vous direz "si on avais su, on aurait attendu d'avoir plus de temps et de moyens pour mieux en profiter". Enfin, c'est mon cas, je repousse mon voyage pour réunir tout les paramètres plutôt que de "bacler".
je vais tous vous contre-dire, car je l'ai fais sans voiture ! et plusieurs fois.
je peux vous assurer que ça fait partie des meilleures souvenirs de vacances de mes enfants.
Le tout avec chaque fois le pass d'un mois des bus greyhound.
sans sequoia national park.
meme yellowstone en bus greyhound et les 25 derniers kms (hotel) en stop depuis l'hotel.
ouvre une carte de la côte ouest et sois logique surtout en 2 semaines impossible de faire yellowstone en meme temps que tes autres envies.
il faut du temp et quelques recherches sur différents sites de voyages et guides papiers.
alors en laissant yellowstone, sequoia et grand canyon pour une prochaine fois et en prenant un retour de las vegas à san francisco en vol interne, je dis : oui, c'est possible.
pour le yosemite national park avec le bus greyhound jusqu'à Merced et apres une autre cie valable sur le meme pass pour le reste du trajet.
commence par lire des guides papiers et reviens si tu as des questions je pourrais t'aider.
Ca ne sert à rien de te dire comment j'ai fais, ça sera trop long à expliquer
mais avec des questions précises, je te répondrais directement.
je peux vous assurer que ça fait partie des meilleures souvenirs de vacances de mes enfants.
Le tout avec chaque fois le pass d'un mois des bus greyhound.
sans sequoia national park.
meme yellowstone en bus greyhound et les 25 derniers kms (hotel) en stop depuis l'hotel.
ouvre une carte de la côte ouest et sois logique surtout en 2 semaines impossible de faire yellowstone en meme temps que tes autres envies.
il faut du temp et quelques recherches sur différents sites de voyages et guides papiers.
alors en laissant yellowstone, sequoia et grand canyon pour une prochaine fois et en prenant un retour de las vegas à san francisco en vol interne, je dis : oui, c'est possible.
pour le yosemite national park avec le bus greyhound jusqu'à Merced et apres une autre cie valable sur le meme pass pour le reste du trajet.
commence par lire des guides papiers et reviens si tu as des questions je pourrais t'aider.
Ca ne sert à rien de te dire comment j'ai fais, ça sera trop long à expliquer
mais avec des questions précises, je te répondrais directement.
Merci à tous pour vos différents points de vue.En effet après avoir regardé plus attentivement il me semble difficile de voir yellowstone.
Je sais qu'il existe des bus reliant San Francisco et Yosemite donc pour ce qui est de ce trajet là ce ne sera pas un problème.
Cependant il y a 2 point délicat dans nos projets...:
- tout d'abord relier yosemite à Las Vegas en passant pas séquoia nationnal park: je n'ai trouvé aucun systeme de bus proposant cet itinéraire.
- Puis, une fois à Las Vegas, y a t'il des bus qui font l'aller-retour jusqu'au Grand Canyon.
Après pour ce qui est de faire Las Vegas - Los Angeles et Los Angeles - San Francisco, il y a toujours la possibilité de prendre des vols internes.
Qu'en pensez vous?
Merci d'avance de vos réponses.
pour Grand Canyon tu as le train à vapeur (souvenir mémorable garanti) qui part de Williams. Regarde sur ce site tu peux réserver direct http://www.canyon-country.com/
Tu as aussi des circuits de bus qui partent de Las Vegas et qui vont vers Grand Canyon (environ 80$), l'avantage est que tu as en plus des explications tt au long du parcours.
Pour Yosemite - Las Vegas: no pb, tu suis ce lien http://www.yosemite.com/tripplan/transportation.html (sur la gauche, ds la partie blanche, tu descends jusqu'au pictogramme du "bus service" ou "train" et tu cherches l'info précise).
Penses aussi à aller sur le site Amtrak car le train est très bien pour se déplacer (avec système de pass).
Et bien sûr l'option vol intérieur pour n'importe où (ou presque).
Amuse toi à combiner tt ça et à trouver la meilleurs formule !
Tu as aussi des circuits de bus qui partent de Las Vegas et qui vont vers Grand Canyon (environ 80$), l'avantage est que tu as en plus des explications tt au long du parcours.
Pour Yosemite - Las Vegas: no pb, tu suis ce lien http://www.yosemite.com/tripplan/transportation.html (sur la gauche, ds la partie blanche, tu descends jusqu'au pictogramme du "bus service" ou "train" et tu cherches l'info précise).
Penses aussi à aller sur le site Amtrak car le train est très bien pour se déplacer (avec système de pass).
Et bien sûr l'option vol intérieur pour n'importe où (ou presque).
Amuse toi à combiner tt ça et à trouver la meilleurs formule !
"la sagesse est d'avoir des rêves suffisamment grands pour ne pas les perdre de vue lorsqu'on les poursuit" (Oscar Wilde).
"ne pas rêver sa vie, mais vivre ses rêves"
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Merci beaucoup pour ta reponse mayflower mais je n'ai pas réussi à trouver le trajet yosemite - las vegas.Peut etre que je m'y suis mal pris...Peut etre que tu pourras m'endire plus... .
Sinon il est vrai que le train au depart de williams semble parfait pour créer des souvenirs.
Autres petites questions?
- Est-il possible de camper dans le grand canyon?
- Quelles sont les visites à faire à las vegas?
- Qu'y a t'il de sympa à voir sur le trajet las vegas - los angeles?
merci d'avance
effectivement c'est un peu compliqué pour aller de yosemite à las vegas. Pour une raison très simple: il y a death valley entre les 2. Les transports en commun doivent donc contourner cette difficulté.
En fait il y a plusieurs possibilités: soit rejoindre Reno, mais là c'est très compliqué. Soit retourner sur Merced (et là tu utilises le lien que je t'avais mentionné avec YARTS) et là il y a une ligne direct de bus greyhound qui vous conduit à Las Vegas (là je t'ai mis le trajet le plus rapide: 9h45), le coût est de 47 $ par personne. Il part à 10h45 de Merced, comme tu le vois à Bakersfield il arrive à 12h05 et ne repart qu'à 14h (vous pourrez donc faire un petit tour en ville et manger), et il s'arrête 20 minutes à Barstow. Tt ça pour arriver à 20h30 à Las Vegas.
LocationArrivesDepartsLayoverCarrierScheduleMERCED, CA 10:45am GLI6881
FRESNO, CA 11:45am12:05pm:20GLI6881
BAKERSFIELD, CA 02:00pm GLI6881
BAKERSFIELD, CA Transfer03:00pm1:00ORB0092
TEHACHAPI, CA 03:40pm03:40pm ORB0092
MOJAVE MCDONALDS, CA 04:00pm04:00pm ORB0092
BORON, CA 04:30pm04:30pm ORB0092
BARSTOW, CA 05:10pm05:30pm:20ORB0092
LAS VEGAS, NV 08:30pm
GLI: GREYHOUND LINES, INC. ORB: ORANGE BELT STAGES
Bien sûr il est tt à fait possible de camper dans le grand canyon, http://www.nps.gov/...isit/campgrounds.htm
A Las vegas, c'est surtout la viste du Strip (avec ces hôtels à thème) et ses spectacles, de Fremont Street et les factory pour les achats à bas prix (celle du sud est top).
RIEN entre Las Vegas et LA, c'est pas top, tu traverses le désert de Mojave via Barstow (c'est assez laid) et puis tu arrives sur la tentaculaire LA ! D'où le retour en avion:
pour seulement 39, 51 € par personne (réservez rapidement si ça vous intéresse) !! avec american airlines (pour un vol le 12 mai par exemple) sur OPODO
voilà les infos du jour
Rachel
LocationArrivesDepartsLayoverCarrierScheduleMERCED, CA 10:45am GLI6881
GLI: GREYHOUND LINES, INC. ORB: ORANGE BELT STAGES
Bien sûr il est tt à fait possible de camper dans le grand canyon, http://www.nps.gov/...isit/campgrounds.htm
A Las vegas, c'est surtout la viste du Strip (avec ces hôtels à thème) et ses spectacles, de Fremont Street et les factory pour les achats à bas prix (celle du sud est top).
RIEN entre Las Vegas et LA, c'est pas top, tu traverses le désert de Mojave via Barstow (c'est assez laid) et puis tu arrives sur la tentaculaire LA ! D'où le retour en avion:
pour seulement 39, 51 € par personne (réservez rapidement si ça vous intéresse) !! avec american airlines (pour un vol le 12 mai par exemple) sur OPODO
voilà les infos du jour
Rachel
"la sagesse est d'avoir des rêves suffisamment grands pour ne pas les perdre de vue lorsqu'on les poursuit" (Oscar Wilde).
"ne pas rêver sa vie, mais vivre ses rêves"
www.my-americandream.com
www.my-americandream.com
sans problème, si je peux vous aider c'est avec plaisir !!
"la sagesse est d'avoir des rêves suffisamment grands pour ne pas les perdre de vue lorsqu'on les poursuit" (Oscar Wilde).
"ne pas rêver sa vie, mais vivre ses rêves"
www.my-americandream.com
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Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!





