Voyage en Egypte en janvier 2008: questions pratiques
by Clocloegypte
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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😏Bonsoir,
Je pars en Egypte le 5/01/08 et reviens le 16/01/08. Départ Paris -Louxor-Debderah -Abydos -Edfou - Assouan - Abou Simbel - Kom Ombo
Le Caire - Sakkarah - Dashur - Guizeh - Alexandrie. (voyage organisé par JET TOURS) - Croisière sur le Nil - vols intérieurs).
Qui peut m'expliquer comment cela se passe depuis le départ à Paris - l'arrivée à Louxor (le quotidien en somme que je ne trouve sur aucune revue).
D'autre part, que dois-je emporter sur le plan vestimentaire en sachant que je vais faire du bateau, de nombreuses visites, de l'avion intérieur et que nous serons en janvier ?
Comment cela se passe-t-il pour l'ordinateur ultra portable, l'appareil photo, la caméro à l'aéroport et dans les sites touristiques. Dois-je me munir d'un sac à dos ? Merci de me répondre.
Dans la mesure ou il s'agit d'un voyage organisé on ne comprend pas bien tes interrogations... aucun souci à se faire tu n'auras qu'à suivre les instructions qui te seront données dès la descente d'avion avant de passer le controle douanier (aucun souci pour les appareils photos video)
Coté pratique, un coffre fort dans les cabines du bateau ou dans les chambres est bien commode pour laisser les objets de valeur dans un meme endroit, bien que le risque de vol dans les chambres soit très peu à craindre(mis a part l'argent un billet qui traine pourrait etre pris pour un pourboire) .
Pour les vetements prévoir de s'habiller "par couches" pour aller des matins frais jusq'au soleil de la journée donc un petit sac à dos pour mettre les vetements enlevés, appareil photo etc est indispensable Evidememnt les températures ne seront pas les memes au Caire et à Assouan . Prévoir aussi des chaussures de marche confortables faciles à dépoussiérer...
bon voyage
Voyager, c'est demander d'un coup à la distance ce que le temps ne pourrait nous donner que peu à peu, c'est gagner son procès contre l'habitude.
une veste chaude si tu vas sur bateau et surtout imodiom si ce la premiere fois que tu vas la bas acheter de l eau nimeral ne pas boire de l eau plate si tu es une femme ne pas repondre au hommes moi je part le 22/12 1 mois le visa tu peus l acheter sur place banque arrivee 13 euro tu met dans ton passeport (colle) c est moins cher que si tu le pren au consulat ne mange pas de fruit de mer ok et surtout faire attention a la bouffe
hafida
fifi
Bonjour,
Tout est dit plus haut.
Nous y étions aussi en janvier, température entre 15 et 25°, donc gilet matin et soir.
Voici un lien pour voir la météo.
http://www.avmaroc.com/meteo/?what=WeatherIndex&tp=&city=Caire®ion=Afrique&country=Egypte&accid=EGXX0004
Sur la plupart des sites, il faut payer pour les photos et film, mais il faut y passer c'est magnifique.
J'ai mis un échantillon sur le site.
http://michel.talon.free.fr
Bon voyage, il suffit de suivre le guide, pas de problème.
a+ Michel T@
http://michel.talon.free.fr
Combien faut-il payer "le droit" de prendre des photos sur les sites ? Parce qu'à la longue, ça se greffe quand même sur le budget...
SALUT, tu dis de ne pas manger de fruits de mer, est-ce que ca comprends aussi les poissons. + d'infos svp. signe, un voyageur tres prudent. merci
Alors là! Je me permets quand même d'intervenir... Bien sûr que les femmes peuvent répondre ou parler aux hommes! L'Egypte, c'est pas l'Arabie Saoudite. Et au contraire, je dirais même qu'il faut impérativement parler aux hommes pour profiter de son voyage. Il faut juste savoir les arrêter quand ils vont trop loin...comme partout ailleurs!
Pour ce qui est de l'eau au Caire elle est potable, mais elle a un goût très fort de chlore. Il faut donc en conclure que vous ne tomberez pas malade à cause de l'eau, mais du manque d'hygiène. Vous pouvez donc boire avec des glaçons, manger des crudités qui ont été lavées, etc... Et pour rendre la chose encore plus compliquée, l'hygiène n'est pas mauvaise là où on le pense... Alors ne vous privez de rien et amenez avec vous les bons médicaments, parce que même en faisant attention à tout, on peut tomber malade!
Enfin, pour les photos, les lieux dans lesquels vous devrez payer sont extrêmement rares. J'ai fait le tour de l'Egypte et je n'ai jamais rien payer. Alors si on vous réclame qq chose pour prendre des photos, demandez où c'est marqué et ne cèdez pas...
Pour ce qui est de l'eau au Caire elle est potable, mais elle a un goût très fort de chlore. Il faut donc en conclure que vous ne tomberez pas malade à cause de l'eau, mais du manque d'hygiène. Vous pouvez donc boire avec des glaçons, manger des crudités qui ont été lavées, etc... Et pour rendre la chose encore plus compliquée, l'hygiène n'est pas mauvaise là où on le pense... Alors ne vous privez de rien et amenez avec vous les bons médicaments, parce que même en faisant attention à tout, on peut tomber malade!
Enfin, pour les photos, les lieux dans lesquels vous devrez payer sont extrêmement rares. J'ai fait le tour de l'Egypte et je n'ai jamais rien payer. Alors si on vous réclame qq chose pour prendre des photos, demandez où c'est marqué et ne cèdez pas...
Bonsoir,
Merci pour votre message. Je me pose toutes ces questions car j'aime bien savoir comment cela se passe. Un exemple : l'attente à la douane est-elle aussi longue que dans d'autres pays notamment Afrique noire, Turquie, Grèce etc. (notamment pour les visas) .
Le voyage semble-t-il long ? Comment est l'aéroport de Louxor ? Des soirées sont-elles organisées sur les bateaux et une femme doit-elle envisager d'emporter une tenue habillée ? Doit-on envisager d'emporter de l'argent liquide de France ou est-il facile d'échanger en Egypte ? Doit-on prévoir beaucoup de monnaie ou des bonbons pour les enfants ? etc.
C'est cela que j'appelle le quotidien.
J'ai visité plusieurs pays et je suis capable de vous expliquer par le menu ce qu'il faut faire ou ne pas faire. Les explications que me fournissent tous les gens qui voyagent sont souvent incomplètes. D'où l'intérêt du forum, me semble-t-il. Je vous remercie de votre compréhension.
Bonsoir,
Merci de votr réponse. J'espère que vous penserez à me raconter ce que vous avez vu et fait pendant votre séjour. Cela m'intéresse beaucoup.
Merci pour vos conseils et à bientôt
Bonsoir,
Merci pour vos conseils. Bravo votre site est super et ne parlons pas de vos photos !
bonjour atous quand je dis qu il ne faut pas parler aux hommes et aux femmes, en egypte parler a une femmes et un manque de respet et si une femme parle a un homme trop longtemps dans la rue cela peu etre mal vue part la police =interrogatoire voir si c est personne se connaisse ect...;et je sais de quoi je parle mon mari et avocat egyptien et certaine loi se sont durci ce sui concerne l alimentation tout depend ou on va manger ce comme partout moi je ne bois que de l eau mineral et ca depuis des annees a part ala maison ou je sais quel et plus que controler . surtout l egypte et un pays magnifique les gens sont tres chalereux aime se retrouver, et surtout sont tres respectueux, a tres bientot
fifi
salut moi je vis 6 mois sur 12 et je mange du poisson sans problem part contre les fruit de mer non, non, non je suis deja tomber malade et pourtant c etait un trs grand resto lors les fruit de mers non, le reste sans problem, tu verra quand tu seras labas il y a des boutic donc certaine sont reglementer pour l eau mineral ne jamais acheter l eau aux passant tu part qquand moi le22/12 voir ma famille et mon mari a tres bientot
fifi
je pars le 5 mars. j'ai bien hate, il ya une personne de chapais au quebec, canada qui va faire le meme trajet que moi le 30 janvier et qui va me rapporter de l'infos. merci pour les infos. bon voyage .
Arrêtez de raconter n'importe quoi !
Si on ne peut plus manger de fruits de mer au bord de la mer Rouge, autant rester chez soi.
Quant à vos élucubrations sur les femmes et les hommes qui ne doivent pas se parler, je me demande où vous vivez.
Si on ne peut plus manger de fruits de mer au bord de la mer Rouge, autant rester chez soi.
Quant à vos élucubrations sur les femmes et les hommes qui ne doivent pas se parler, je me demande où vous vivez.
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Bonjour,
Moi non plus je ne suis pas volontaire pour les fruits de mer en Egypte... 🤪 Le fait qu'une femme et un homme risquent des ennuis à paraître ensemble est sans objet pour des étrangers mais peut concerner des égyptiennes.
Michel
Moi non plus je ne suis pas volontaire pour les fruits de mer en Egypte... 🤪 Le fait qu'une femme et un homme risquent des ennuis à paraître ensemble est sans objet pour des étrangers mais peut concerner des égyptiennes.
Michel
Pourtant, les moules de la Mer Rouge sont absolument délicieuses, surtout pour moi Genève qui n'en ai jamais de fraîches par ici !
Danielle
Danielle
A man, a plan, a canal, Panama - palindrome, auteur inconnu
en egypte et egyptienne et musulmane vous devier lire le coran et respecter les musulman au lieu d agresser les gens, moi j ai vue et discuter avec lusieur femmes europeenne qui mon dit avoir eu des soucis voir sur le forum rencontres et routard vous y trouverer plusieur discution
vous ne connaisser que le bon cote des pays mais tout pays a ces defaut et ces qualitess voir le france et ses loi adn
fifi
Je ne suis ni egyptienne ni musulmane mais j'ai beaucoup étudié le Coran.
Je n'y trouve aucune sourate qui interdise aux femmes de parler aux hommes.
Je n'y trouve aucune sourate qui interdise aux femmes de parler aux hommes.
A man, a plan, a canal, Panama - palindrome, auteur inconnu
Bonjour,
Le Coran n'y est pour rien ; c'est une lubie de la police égyptienne.
Michel
Le Coran n'y est pour rien ; c'est une lubie de la police égyptienne.
Michel
n utiliser pas les religions a tous vas cela suffit..... la premiere personne a qui le prophete a donner ces enseignements etait une femme, le premier musulman était donc une musulmane.
Mahomed à a ce propos apprit beaucoup sur la vie d'une autre femme qui était sa concubine, par la suite il c'est battu pour les droits des femmes...
Le coran n'est pas une prison pour les Egyptiens, c est la politique du pays qui les enferment et crée des problémes.
bonjour mohamed pais et benediction sur lui a eu 11femmes, quand je parle de la religion, si vous avez lu je ne parle que du respect de la femmes sans plus, il et vrai que des personnes axageres, mais moi je bouge je respecte les loie et coutumes des pays que je visite c est tout, je ne dit pas a tout bout de champs, "comme il a ete dis faite parler vous ne risquer rien, c est tout, ( exemple : si vous conduiser en voiture penser bien que comme la les lois ne sont pas le code de la route de france, plusieur accident et c est souvent le touriste voir meme ci ce dernier na pas tord de prouver sa bonne foi vous comprenner et sans dans plusieur pays .bonne journee
fifi
bonjour, moi jene parle pas aux hommes dans la rue, je suis toujour accompagner, en france un bonjour on y voisqu un bonjour, mais chez certaine personne une femmes qui parle et mal vue meme si ctte derniere et correct, jeparle pour nou pas le touriste biensur, mon mari quand il vient me voir enfrance ne comprend pas tout ces bonjour ses bisous, les amoureux etc, pour lui se de la provocation, j ai expliquer que tout le monde viver comme ils voulaient,
fifi
bonjour, moi j'ai comme optique ( vivre et laisser vivre ) il faut dire que nous au canada, ce qui fait defaut plus que la religion, c'est la langue. le pays est divise entre le francais et l'anglais. la difference ici entre les femmes et les hommes et bien on est egale dans bien des cas.n'essayer pas de convaincre les autres que votre religion est la meilleure, ca divise les peuples, au fond si on crois a l'etre supreme, moi je pense que c'est le meme gars pour tous.paix et amour, pis on va avoir du fun. un pacifiste.🙂
bonjour je ne divise aucub humain au contraire nous vivons tous sr la meme terre je dis seulement se respevter sois meme vaut le respect des autres, les gens ne reagissent pas pareil partout helas moi je parle a tous le monde la religion ne me mets pas de barrieres pour ca la preuve je suis sur forum et j ai deja visite le canada les usa les antiles etc j ai des amis dans le monde entier et mon meilleur ami et un routard ne, comme sa mere dit il et ne avec un sac a dos, j ai fait aussi de l umanitaire avec ma soeur atd qurt monde et le pere josehp, je suis musulmane certe mais j ai apris a ecoute les autres mes meilleur ami en egypte sont chretien et trvailla dans une ecole religieuse,
fifi
Diffalah, je pense que vous vivez dans un milieu très conservateur. Cette peur qui vous empêche de parlez aux hommes n'est heureusement pas représentative de l'Egypte. Ce n'est pas une histoire de respect des coutumes. Si vous vivez en Egypte vous vous rendez compte que les femmes parlent aux hommes et qu'elles ne sont pas pour autant considérées comme des filles de mauvaise vie.
Pour y avoir vécu assez longtemps, je pense qu'il faut éviter trop de familiarité comme partout ailleurs pour ne pas se retrouver dans des situations gênantes.
Pour ma part je pense qu'il serait dommage que les touristes vous prennent à la lettre et aient peur de se retrouver en prison pour avoir parlé à un homme. C'est malheureusement comme ça que naît la xénophobie, la peur de l'autre...
si vous dites ca tres bien je ne suis pas du moyen age, part contre je souhaite vous voir en egypte et voir vos paroles en jestes, je ne pense pas que vous avait vecu chez moi car moi helas j ai vue des arrestation de femmes europeenne qui ete obliger de se justifier .vous etes jeunes profiter de la vie
fifi
Qu'ont fait ces femmes pour être arrêtées? Les seuls cas d'arrestations d'Européens que je connais sont des histoires de consommation de drogues. Et là effectivement, pas de traitement de faveur pour les étrangers.
J'ai vécu un an et demi en Egypte et j'ai parlé à tout le monde sans aucun problèmes. Ne me dîtes pas que j'étais dans un milieu préservé, je vivais à Sayyeda Zaynab et j'ai voyagé partout seule sans rencontrer la moindre difficulté.
Ne propager pas cette fausse image de l'Egypte! Les touristes sont tellement sensibles aux témoignages qu'ils risqueraient de fuir l'Egypte telle vous la leur présentez.
Les témoignages de femmes qui ont mal vécu leurs séjours en Egypte parlent du comportement des hommes (très méditerranéen!), mais pas de risques d'arrestations!!! Ne déformez pas tout!
Bonsoir,
"je ne pense pas que vous avait vecu chez moi car moi helas j ai vue des arrestation de femmes europeenne qui ete obliger de se justifier ."
Si quelqu'un a pu être questionné ou inquiété, c'est leur interlocuteur ; pas elles.
Michel
"je ne pense pas que vous avait vecu chez moi car moi helas j ai vue des arrestation de femmes europeenne qui ete obliger de se justifier ."
Si quelqu'un a pu être questionné ou inquiété, c'est leur interlocuteur ; pas elles.
Michel
des nouvelles lois sont sortie helas !!! tout comportement voir tenue dans certain quarier et certaines villes sont mal vue, je suis contre ca mais que voulez vous faire la loi c est la charia non les lois qu on a en france je vous conseiller de lire la presse si vous savais lire l arabe, moi avant je bouger sans mroblem seul faire mes course dans certain quartier mai maintenant mon epoux ne veux plus pas pour m interdire mais il craint pur moi il voit tellemnt de situation au tribunal ( il et avocat ) independant, je sais qua quand je serais de retour ala maison dans moins de dix maintenant, je devrait me mettre au gout du jours c est tout,
fifi
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(though there are fraudulent sites out there). On the official site, they ask for legitimate info
(name, nationality, etc.). What made me go "hmm" was the request for both an email address
AND a password (with confirmation). Is this normal?
Thanks for your replies.
Hi there, a group of girlfriends and I are heading to Tunisia. We’d love to know how much cash we should bring for 6 days, considering everything’s already paid for at the hotel. Thanks for your tips!
Hi everyone! :)
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!




