J'écris ce message car nous allons préparer un voyage en Septembre 2014 mais plusieurs destinations nous attirent...
Pourriez-vous nous conseiller, nous aider dans notre choix ?
Qui ? Nous... Un jeune couple
Quand ? entre le 10 septembre 2014 et le 1er octobre 2014
Combien de temps ? Entre 2 et 3 semaines maximum
Budget ? Indifférent pour le moment
Ce que nous aimons ? Les paysages grandioses, la nature, un peu de ville, les plages et la mer...
Hebergements ? nous aimons camper si possible ou auberges de jeunesses ou des hotels...
L'idéal serait de pouvoir faire un circuit en louant une voiture et réaliser ainsi un petit "road trip"...
Et voici les destinations qui nous attirent :
1/ Hawai
2/ Afrique du sud
3/ Indonésie : de Java à Bali
4/ Portugal : de Lisbonne aux algarves
Quelle destination serait le plus adapté pour un séjour de 2 semaines environ au mois de septembre ?
Merci beaucoup pour votre aide !
A bientôt !
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Pour 2 semaines le Portugal me semble le plus approprié, tant au niveau prix qu'au niveau temps, sinon l'Indonésie pour 2/3 semaines c'est bien aussi, tu peux faire l'ile de Java et Bali pour une première approche.😉
Nous avons déja voyagé dans l'ouest Américain en 2009 ;-) et nous avons adoré, nous avons d'y retourné !!
Mais avant ça, nous voulons aussi découvrir d'autres lieux...
Et pour le Maroc, la Turquie, ce sont des destinations que nous aimons également, mais nous préférons privilégier un pays plus loin tant que nous n'avons pas d'enfant...
Et l'indonésie... Nous hésitons avec Hawai et l'Afrique du Sud...
De plus, il s'agit de notre voyage de noces donc nous voulons un voyage romantique ;-)
Merci !
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Sinon, tu as les Philippines qui sont grandioses, pas cher et vraiment dépaysant...
Faut juste s'assurer que ce n'est pas la période des moussons comme ça peut l'être dans l'Asie du Sud-Est...
Après, je dirais la Nouvelle-Calédonie où j'habite, mais le budget ne sera pas le même, les paysages, le romantisme et la beauté des lieux sera au rendez-vous c'est sur...
Bonjour,
Je vous déconseille l’Afrique du Sud pour des raison de sécurité.(j'étais l'année dernière.J'aime être libre et pouvoir aller ou je veux et quand je veux.)
L' Indonésie, Bali je suis en ce moment c'est sans problèmes, les gents sont trés simpats. Si vous avez besoin de renseignements , je peux vous aider
Les Philippines, j'y avais pensé également mais ce n'est pas du tout la bonne période... :-(
Pour la Nouvelle calédonie, j'ai également regardé les vols mais c'est un peu plus cher : 1400€ pour un vol AR de paris.
Et pour la nouvelle calédonie, il faut aussi compter un vol inter iles non ? Ce qui augmente la note...
Nous nous renseignons sur les vols pour Hawai en ce moment, et ca fait 1300€ avec les vols inter-iles compris pour visiter 3 iles.
Mais aucuns choix n'est fait pour le moment, nous nous renseignons... ;-)
Le budget comptera beaucoup. Je sais que Bali reviendra peut-etre moins cher...
Et l'Afrique du Sud en 15 jours complets, est-ce faisable ? car nous aurions aimé voir Le Cap, mais aussi le parc Kruger... Donc il faudra prendre un vol interne je pense...
Merci pour ces renseignements !
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Et l'Afrique du Sud en 15 jours complets, est-ce faisable ? car nous aurions
aimé voir Le Cap, mais aussi le parc Kruger... Donc il faudra prendre un vol
interne je pense...
Oui, à l'aise, avec en effet un vol interne entre Jo'burg et Le Cap (budget avion au départ de Paris, inclu un AR interne: moins de 800€). Une autre solution, du même niveau de coût: Paris/Jo'burg puis Cape Town/Paris, ou l'inverse.
Les risques évoqués plus haut sont réduits dans les zones touristiques.
Alors vu qu'il s'agit également d'un voyage de Noces, que vous voulez des paysages grandioses, de la nature, des belles plages, et partir sur du long courrier et que vous avez déjà fait une partie des USA, sur cette période, moi je recommande l'Indonésie.
En septembre, faut éviter la Thaïlande, les Philippines, l'Amérique Centrale et j'en passe.
Mais, pour l'avoir fait et avoir déjà beaucoup voyager, 3 semaines de road trip et de vadrouille en Indonésie, c'est l'idéal.
Direction Jakarta tout d'abord, tu passes quelques temps sur Java avec Borobodhur, les nombreux volcans, des villes très sympas comme Yogakarta (trajet en Train depuis Jakarta très sympa) par exemple, et ensuite tu files sur Bali. Massages romantiques sur Ubud, tu évites le sud de l'île car trop touristique et blindée d'australiens, le volcan Gunung Agung magnifique à l'aube et après quelques balades dans le nord de l'île, les lacs du centre, tu files sur Lombok où là je connais un endroit génial pour se prélacer sur une plage privée trop belle, dans le sud de Lombok.
Quoi qu'il en soit, 3 semaines c'est bien pour l'Indonésie.
Et si on opte pour une autre destination sur la période, mais totalement différente, mais sans trop de plages, la Namibie. Paysages grandioses, ça c'est clair, mais par contre, budget un peu supérieur à l'Indonésie. Mais il y a aussi la Réunion, et Madagascar. Mada' est nickel pour septembre aussi. Et là pareil, tu as des endroits splendides, des plages de rêve. Mais une mentalité totalement différente de l'Indonésie.
Voilà.
Si tu veux plus d'infos, tu n'hésites pas.
Les Philippines, j'y avais pensé également mais ce n'est pas du tout la bonne période... :-(
Pour la Nouvelle calédonie, j'ai également regardé les vols mais c'est un peu plus cher : 1400€ pour un vol AR de paris.
Et pour la nouvelle calédonie, il faut aussi compter un vol inter iles non ? Ce qui augmente la note...
Nous nous renseignons sur les vols pour Hawai en ce moment, et ca fait 1300€ avec les vols inter-iles compris pour visiter 3 iles.
Mais aucuns choix n'est fait pour le moment, nous nous renseignons... ;-)
Le budget comptera beaucoup. Je sais que Bali reviendra peut-etre moins cher...
Et l'Afrique du Sud en 15 jours complets, est-ce faisable ? car nous aurions aimé voir Le Cap, mais aussi le parc Kruger... Donc il faudra prendre un vol interne je pense...
Merci pour ces renseignements !
Re-bonjour Diddy',
Tu peux prévoir un road trip en Afrique du Sud de 2 semaines, mais comme Kruger est tout de même plus proche de Johannesburg que du Cap, mieux vaut prévoir le coup pour pouvoir passer 4-5 jours dans le Parc, soit au début en arrivant, soit en repartant.
Etant parti pendant 3 semaines en mars 2013 en Afrique du sud je te conseille fortement ce pays ( l'insécurité n'est pas aussi élevée que ce qu'on dit , il y a juste certains quartiers a éviter à Johannesburg )
Les paysages sont grandioses , le parc Kruger est d'une beauté époustouflantes et les gens sont hyper accueillant .
J'ai organisée moi même mon parcours au lieu de passer par agence ( 3000 euros d'économie a la clé tous sa sans se privé )
Pour d'autre renseignement n'hésite pas.
Bonne soirée
Bonjour Diddy11
Nous avons fait L' afrique du Sud en Octobre et franchement c'était super, Nous étions également en Indonesie en 2011 mais c'était en Juillet. Super aussi, mais Bali est très touristique ( on entend beaucoup parler français😛, ), Lombock ile voisine nous a beaucoup plus attirée pour son coté plus sauvage, se renseigner sur la météo en Septembre Octobre.
Pour le reste connait pas
Voilà.
Cordialement
JPierre
Hawaii y a tout ce que t'aimes: Les paysages grandioses, la nature, un peu de ville, les plages et la mer... Et des volcans! C'est vraiment beau! On y a été 2 semaines, ça laisse le temps de quand même bien visiter les îles.
moi je peux te dire qu'en vivant en afrique du sud en deux semaines le cap et le kruger c'est faisable mais tu ne perdras pas de temps a toi de voir si tu comptes bouger autour du cap ou plus te reposer. Par contre à noter qu'en septembre on sort juste de l'hiver et qu'au cap il y a pas mal de vent à cette période.
Une chose à voir également vu le taux du rand c'est très avantageux en ce moment.
Bonjour a tous,
J'ai une problématique voyage
Mon cher et tendre copain va avoir 30 ans
Vu que nous sommes légèrement fan de voyage nos dernières destinations ensemble Croatie en itinérant Thaïlande en itinérant et la nous revenons de Cuba en itinérant
Je souhaite lui offrir un voyage pour son anniversaire et oui 30 ans ça se fête nous partitions du 5 septembre et pour deux semaines
Et je me demandais si hawai était la bonne destination car au niveau des vols on est a une trentaine d'heures
Voyant cette discussion sur l'Indonésie est-ce que vous pourriez me donne des conseils
Est ce le bon moment pour y aller ? Le budget? Comment se déplacer?
Je ne peux pas lui en parler je veux lui faire la surprise jusqu'au l'arrivée à l'aéroport
Merci pour votre aide
Christelle
Je me permet de partager cet article de blog qui, à mes yeux, pose un diagnostic d'une modernité absolue sur Hué qui n’est pas vue comme une relique mais comme une reine du style.
Many of us have noticed that bugs have been making it difficult to navigate the forum lately.
I’ll let Kate and Ticapi explain the issue:
I went to your profile to check out the Thailand travel journal, and when I clicked on it, it brought me back here again. All week, I’ve been dealing with bugs like this—it’s really discouraging from continuing on VF.🙁
I had the same thing happen, and multiple times. For me, it was Montagnard’s latest journal that kept coming up no matter which discussion I clicked on.
BOLIVIA: THE COUNTRY ON THE BRINK (What's Really Happening)
A dramatic saga is unfolding before our eyes in the Andes. Between suffocating blockades, clashes, an international airlift, and historic political decisions, Bolivia has just experienced 48 hours of rare intensity.
Here’s the full breakdown (economic, social, and political) of the last 48 hours:
For travelers and tourists: the article also includes an important note about the upcoming publication (starting tomorrow) of the precise status of roadblocks, route by route.
I’ll post the full update here on Voyage Forum!
Don’t miss this in-depth analysis. History is being written before our eyes! https://www.petitherge.com/bolivie-paralysie-et-ultimatum
I just discovered a great show on Arte.
It's called "7 en route": seven young European journalists travel around Europe in a fully converted bus, making reports on every city they visit. It's amazing! 🙂
Yesterday, for example, they were in Rome, Italy, and the reports included things like the world's smallest restaurant—a super romantic spot for two. There was also a report on the king of paparazzi in Italy.
They have to pick topics that let us discover the little quirks of each country. And at the end of each episode, we get to see the finished report.
It's such a great show, mixing journalism, travel, and discovery—basically, a must-watch!
It airs in the evening starting at 6:50 PM (I think), and it started this past Monday, July 14th.
If you watch it, let me know—we can chat about it!
I left my heart’s country eight days ago and returned to my adopted one—or was it the other way around? Scotland-Morvan, Morvan-Scotland, I’m not quite sure anymore.
After a quarter without dragging my slippers around here, even though I’d loudly declared I had no interest left in this site, here I am again!
My imagination never stays fallow for long. Just enough time for my inner land to rest. It gets overgrown with fresh nettles, the kind you can pick without getting stung. Then, it’s time to till the fragrant earth and let the story grow.
I hesitated over where to set this story.
Maybe the Highlands, maybe the Hebrides, maybe the Orkney Islands, maybe the Shetland Islands. All of Scotland is myth—easy to embroider.
But in the end, no. I’d almost be too afraid to bare my soul.
The story will take place at home. Simple, practical.
1)
This morning, I was up well before dawn, feeling a bit grumpy, but nothing a bowl of coffee won’t fix. I love my bowl, and no one dares take it. It’s porcelain, edged with intertwined blue flowers. On the bottom, it says "Revol." The factory has existed long before the Revolution. It was my great-grandmother’s bowl. She drank roasted barley from it during the war, then her Leroux chicory.
Last year, a little guy dropped it. My bowl broke into three pieces. A black anger vibrated deep inside me. The little boy was so upset, on the verge of tears. How could I scold him!
I picked up the three pieces and took Little Boy in my arms. His hair smelled of the light, sweet sweat of toddlers. A gentle hug that healed—his budding sorrow and my anger—everything vanished, and time carried on.
Today, my bowl is even prettier. Man fixed it using the traditional kintsugi technique, except he didn’t use gold powder or lacquer but superglue, and he delicately painted the cracks with woad blue. And my bowl is even more beautiful now.
I’m lingering, I can tell—it’s just that a story wraps itself in life, and life can’t be told in the snap of a finger. Life is long. Like in architecture, you start with a rough sketch, called a "sous-cul" (the initial pencil drawing), then you make a tracing, which is the work itself, the one you later carefully roll up in a wooden tube.
Life is like that: you erase, you start over, you use the nub of the pencil until it’s tiny, but you keep going—dreaming, loving.
"Living is a full-time occupation, a unique adventure. Always a surprise and a wonder, which sometimes turns into astonishment. And, from time to time, happiness."*
Alright, enough digressing—this introduction is definitely too long.
Tomorrow, I’ll get to the heart of the matter.
(I hate that expression; it feels like I’m cutting into someone’s skin.)
I’m Yann, a 28-year-old TikToker who loves traveling!
Since I’ve been to several destinations, I’d love to get a flag from each one as a sort of trophy. But from what I’ve seen online, a lot of sites sell them with what looks like really poor quality...
So I’m reaching out to you all to share a site you usually use—help me start my collection! :)
hi there
I’d love to get some opinions—I’ve never used Airbnb before.
They’re offering a key handover via lockbox.
Any tips or advice?
Is it reliable?
Best,
Hi there, I’m Laura, and I’m looking for a few people to answer some questions so I can understand your travel wishes and challenges. It won’t take long—I can chat here, by email, or by phone. Don’t worry, I’m not selling anything! 😊
On this forum, we talk a lot about trekking in the Himalayas, but I’d love to share another side of Nepal: its spiritual, cultural, and religious atmosphere, especially in Kathmandu.
Nepal, much like Tibet and Bhutan, is deeply connected to the Himalayas—the ultimate sacred mountain range. This small country exudes a calming vibe, shaped by a strong spiritual dimension. What I loved most was the unique sensory experience you get there. Walking around temples and tantric monasteries, a distinct scent fills the air—aromatic plants used for ritual fumigation. Locals mainly burn Himalayan juniper, cedar, sandalwood, and other local essences. This fragrant smoke is a way to purify the space and reach the deities, and you’re constantly enveloped in these aromas.
Another striking aspect is the sound. As soon as you step outside, you hear bells ringing in front of temples. People ring them three times before praying to announce their presence to the deities. Nepal is also the birthplace of singing bowls and sound meditation practices. In Kathmandu, you can easily find meditation sessions or "sound baths."
The spiritual dimension is everywhere: a Hindu sadhu practicing asceticism, a lama in deep red robes with his mala, turning a prayer wheel while murmuring "Om mani padme hum." Newar Buddhism, Tantrism, and Hinduism coexist harmoniously in daily life.
For those who love exploring a destination through its culture and spirituality, Nepal is an unforgettable place. What was your spiritual experience in Nepal like?
Hi,
I’m landing in Quebec and then heading to New Brunswick and Nova Scotia. I’d like to rent a pick-up. My question is: does this vehicle come with a cover and is it secure enough to store luggage in? I’ve heard two conflicting opinions. Thanks
I just installed the Maps.Me app on my phone. I only recently found out about this app. I’m traveling in 2 weeks and a few days, and I’m a bit stuck on how to use it.
I’m from the Montreal (Quebec) area, and I’d love to know if there’s a kind soul out there who could help me get started and use the app at least minimally.
If there are private lessons available, I’d be interested in those too.
Like many others, I’m overjoyed to hear that VoyageForum is reopening! I’ve been waiting hopefully for this, and it’s wonderful that it’s finally happening!
I just couldn’t bring myself to actively participate in other French-language travel forums—their format and way of doing things never appealed to me as much. I really hope that VF’s structure, categories, and interface won’t change too much despite the handover, because I’m very attached to them. Through thick and thin, the site has held strong—it’s amazing!
In a previous message, François mentioned that there were positions to fill ahead of the reopening, including moderators...
I’ve been eagerly waiting for this and hoping to send in my CV.
Now, after reading the latest message, it seems like the team is already fully formed. But are there still a few spots left to fill?
I’ve been a VF member for 20 years (since 2004). I’d love to contribute to this wonderful adventure as a moderator if VF would trust me with the role. If the team is open to reviewing it, I’m ready to send my CV. Could you let me know the next steps?
I’m planning a 3-week trip to Japan in May with Voyage Privé. The package includes a 5 GB eSIM, but my phone isn’t new enough to support it. VP told me I could buy a SIM card when I arrive at the airport.
Sure enough, I’ve seen online that this is possible with different providers.
I only need it for checking routes, looking up addresses, train schedules, etc.—basically using Google Maps, TripAdvisor, and similar apps. No heavy downloads or major internet use. All hotels should provide free Wi-Fi for that, right?
Has anyone got any tips for me on this? What have you tried, and how much did it cost?
Thanks for your help!
I’d like to know if you can buy reef-safe sunscreen sprays at 7-Eleven. If so, how much do they cost? We’re traveling with backpacks, so we’ll either buy 100ml here or in Thailand.
I wanted to share a really unpleasant experience from our last trip booked with Promoséjours and organized by FTI.
We booked an 8-day/7-night stay in Egypt, from June 8 to 15.
The flight initially scheduled was changed a week before departure to take off at 10 PM from Paris CDG.
In the end, it took off with a 1-hour delay and included an unmentioned stopover in Marsa Alam.
We landed in Hurghada at 4 AM and arrived at the hotel at 6 AM.
So, we spent our first night on the plane.
For the return trip, surprise—the flight was moved up. We left the hotel at 10:30 PM on Friday the 14th to take off at 2 AM and land at 7 AM at Paris CDG.
So, we spent our last night on the plane too.
After sending a complaint letter to Promoséjours / FTI, they replied that the first and last days can be dedicated to transport (which I already knew) and that no matter how many nights you book, you’re not guaranteed to spend them in the hotel—it could just as well be on the plane.
I’m really questioning this.
Isn’t there a law that protects customers in cases like this?
Because when I do the math, the first and part of the second day were spent on transport, same for the second-to-last and last day. And I paid for 7 nights for a stay that only lasted 5.
Anyway, I just want to say thanks to them—thanks to their two sleepless nights in transit, I’m coming back even more exhausted from a trip that was supposed to be restful!
I also want to warn anyone booking through this agency about visas for Egypt.
At booking, they told me the visa was included in the price, then they sent me an email saying I’d have to pay for it on-site at 25 €.
Once there, we were directed to a special line for FTI customers, and guess what? They charged us 30 €!
Basically, they’re great at making sure you *enjoy* your vacation—mostly by enjoying your wallet!
If anyone has dealt with this kind of situation and won their case, I’m all ears.
Hi there!
I’m heading to Thailand for two months.
So I thought I’d get a Thai SIM card to use Google Maps for getting around cities, mostly.
Here’s my question: will this SIM affect my apps? Or will they work the same as with my Orange SIM?
Is there any setup I need to do, or can I just pop in the Thai SIM?
I’d also like to switch back to my Orange SIM now and then while I’m in Thailand—on the same phone. Will I need to reset the phone, or will it reconnect without any issues?
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Best,
Huiclos
Hi, I’d like to know where we can buy beer or wine in Chefchaouen and around Merzouga. We’ll be doing a circuit and staying at the Parador Hotel in Chefchaouen and in a bivouac in Merzouga.
Thanks for any info you can share!
Hello everyone,
I’m reaching out to all travelers and globe-trotters on this forum. I’m a teacher in Creuse working in a ULIS program (which welcomes children aged 6 to 12 with disabilities into a mainstream school). This year, I’m launching a school journal project that will involve the kids in many different topics. A big part of this journal will focus on opening up to the world, embracing differences, travel, global cultures, and more.
I’m putting out a call to invite as many of you as possible to send us a postcard (from France or anywhere in the world)! The goal is to help us "travel" and discover new places, countries, and horizons in a way that’s much more fun and exciting than a geography textbook. One section of our journal could be called "We received a letter from ," where we’d research the location and share what we learn with our readers—a really enriching activity for the classroom.
The project starts in September 2025 but doesn’t have a strict end date, since this journal and world-discovery initiative will span several school years (the kids stay in the ULIS program for multiple years). Postcards can be sent anytime—throughout the year, across seasons, even during holidays! The kids will find them when they return.
I hope this idea appeals to as many of you as possible, and that you’ll spread the word to your fellow travelers. Help us dream and explore!
For those who’d like to write to us in a language other than French, no problem—quite the opposite!
Thank you in advance for your participation! Below is our address. If you’d like us to write back, feel free to leave your address on a corner of the postcard! 😊
ULIS program students
Bonnat Elementary School
12 rue Georges Sand
23220 BONNAT
Thank you, and I hope to hear from you soon! 😊
Julien
🙂
Hi there! I have to leave Ivato/Antananarivo on December 16th. I have a lot of ariary that I’d like to exchange for euros since I might not be coming back to Madagascar (after this 21st trip). I think the exchange office at Ivato also buys ariary back. If any of you have seen the rate for this buyback in advance, thanks a million!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for a website that would let me plot my travel route in advance so I can print it out. The idea is to create a map with a little “me” on a bike that my parents can move along as I progress, since I’m planning to cycle all the way to Nepal.
If any of you have done something similar or know of a good tool, I’d love to hear your tips!
Thanks in advance! 😊
I'm looking to buy an ultra-lightweight 50/55L travel backpack with a suitcase or front opening.
Does anyone have any brand and/or model recommendations?
Thanks,
Emma
Hello. We’re a retired couple heading to Sri Lanka from January to March. After the November floods, I’d like to know if we can offer hands-on help to the locals, maybe pack some clothes or other items people might need in our luggage, and who we could give them to. Thanks for any info from those on the ground.
Be careful when sailing between Somalia and northern Madagascar.
It appears to be Somali pirates who have widened their search in the Mozambique Channel, far from their usual attack zone, since, to my knowledge, there are no Malagasy pirates.
Not sure if this is the right section, but just wanted to warn future travelers...
Where’s Cape Vidal?
It’s in iSimangaliso, an independent park in KZN Wildlife, stunning and just a stone’s throw from St Lucia (KwaZulu-Natal, Maputaland).
It’s the beach spot at the end of the Eastern Shores road. You can swim, fish... but watch out for waves, currents, and sharks...
There’s a really nice game drive where you can get out of your car at certain points, especially at Cape Vidal.
That’s where the camp with bungalows and campsites is.
The vervets and samango monkeys (endemic to the area, and the males are pretty big) can be a bit of a nuisance if you’re trying to braai...
They’re super persistent and not shy at all—don’t let them intimidate you, and stay alert because their speed at snatching food is impressive.
Anyway...
I’m reporting two recent attacks by these hyenas... who were *not* in a playful mood...
The first one happened at night—a hyena tried to bite a camper’s nose off in their tent... and succeeded.
The other night, a camper returning to their tent in the early hours was violently attacked by two hyenas... and they had a close call!
So, if you’re camping there, be careful...
Measures are being taken, but for now, it’s a bit risky.
A white rental Toyota Land Cruiser 4x4 carrying foreign tourists was attacked at the entrance of Tsingy de Bemaraha National Park in the village of Bekopaka, western Madagascar, yesterday. So far, there’s been no response from the central government to curb these repeated armed attacks—usually between Malagasy people, but this time targeting foreign tourists.
After an engine failure in mid-2016 on a long-haul flight from BRISBANE to LYON, I developed a persistent aviophobia that I’m struggling to shake off. It’s becoming more and more of a hindrance.
Up until now, I’ve been using an avoidance strategy (for example, avoiding destinations that would require any other mode of transport than a car or train), but lately, it’s become really limiting.
I’m looking for a therapist—either in-person or via video call—who could help me get past this hurdle.