Voyage d'une semaine dans le Sud tunisien à organiser
by Mipat
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Nous voulons découvrir le sud tunisien 1 semaine en octobre, hors voyage organisé en voiture : Djerba - Matmata - Douz Nefta Tozeur -Ksar Gilane et retour sur Djerba,
1) est ce réalisable simplement en voiture et non pas en 4X4 en toute sécurité
2) faut-il changer d'hébergement à chaque étape ou pouvons nous rayonner au départ de l'une d'elle
3) nous rêvons d'une nuit dans le désert (dromadaire, marche, diner, campement) : qui peut nous conseiller l'endroit dunes/sable authentique où il faut réaliser cette escapade et à qui s'adresser pour l'organiser sérieusement.
Merci de vos conseils,
Douz, avec la visite du souk le jeudi, à partir de là, randonnée avec dromadaires, comme nous, ce fut extraordinaire, randomadairedouz.canalblog.com, c'est là où nous sommes descendus, bon accueil, sécurité, rien que des bons souvenirs!
Toujane, Matmata, les oasis de montagne.........., contacte les tu verras toutes les possibilités, pas cher et bons conseils
Heureux qui comme Ulysse...............
la beauté se regarde, la beauté s'écoute, la beauté se chante............
Même pour aller à Ksar Ghilane (la route du Pipe line est goudronée maintenant), il est inexact de dire qu'il faut un 4 x 4 pour faire seul ces excursionset que, autrement, on risque des surprises . je l'ai fait plusieurs fois depuis 7 ans que je vais à Zarzis, et je l'ai fait seule à 3 repoprise en Clio Classic (climatisée, c'est mieux car octobre est encore chaud tout de même)
Bien sûr les organisateurs d'excursions des TO et agences tunisiennes, et c'est normal, prêchent pour leur chapelle et ...ils organisent les excursions en 4 x 4 qui peuvent contenir plus de monde Ceci dit, ce peut être syympa aussi si on est un groupe et qu'on réserve un ou deux 4 x 4 Mais autrement, vous êtes tenus de suivre le programme défini à l'avance (pas de flanerie devant un poaysage qui vous coupe le souffle) et pas mal d'organisateurs ont tendance à passer assez vite sur les sites pour vous amener aussi vite que possble dans des boutiques de souvenir ou restos "amis" des guides ou chauffeurs pour une s&éance de vente organisée (cela améliore l'ordinaire et, vu les salaires très bas dans le sud, ce n'est que normal que chacun veuille gagner sa vie)
Comme vous n'avez qu'une semaine, je vois mal dans quelle ville vous pourriez vous poser pour faire toutes ces visites Il sera donc préférable de changer d'hôtel (en octobre vous devriez encore avoir de la place sans problème), Mais vous pouvez aussi loger à Tozeur pour visiter Nefta et Douz, faire votre nuit dans le désert au départ de Douz ou Zaafrane, avec un chamelier du coin.
Si vous voulez les coordonnées d'un chamelier super qui est plébicité par presque toutes les personnes qui l'accompagnent, je puis vous donner, par message privé, les coordonnée de Mohamed, chamelier à Zaafrane (je ne perçois aucune commission, rassurez-vous) Vous passerez avec lui des moments magiques dans le désert
Mais il y a également d'excellents chameliers à Douz. il vous suffit de les contacter à votre arrivée (vous pouvez contacter "BEDOUIN" sur ce forum, elle connaît fort bien Douz et les agences sérieuses du coin)
Je ne vous conseille pas la nuit à Ksar Ghilane (mais ce n'est que mon avis) qui, depuis que la route est goudronnée est devenue super touristique et où vous retrouverez précisément des hordes de 4 x 4 des TO et des petites agences locales.
Octobre est le mois idéal pour visiter le sud, je suis certaine que vous allez adorer
Bonnes vacances
Bien sûr les organisateurs d'excursions des TO et agences tunisiennes, et c'est normal, prêchent pour leur chapelle et ...ils organisent les excursions en 4 x 4 qui peuvent contenir plus de monde Ceci dit, ce peut être syympa aussi si on est un groupe et qu'on réserve un ou deux 4 x 4 Mais autrement, vous êtes tenus de suivre le programme défini à l'avance (pas de flanerie devant un poaysage qui vous coupe le souffle) et pas mal d'organisateurs ont tendance à passer assez vite sur les sites pour vous amener aussi vite que possble dans des boutiques de souvenir ou restos "amis" des guides ou chauffeurs pour une s&éance de vente organisée (cela améliore l'ordinaire et, vu les salaires très bas dans le sud, ce n'est que normal que chacun veuille gagner sa vie)
Comme vous n'avez qu'une semaine, je vois mal dans quelle ville vous pourriez vous poser pour faire toutes ces visites Il sera donc préférable de changer d'hôtel (en octobre vous devriez encore avoir de la place sans problème), Mais vous pouvez aussi loger à Tozeur pour visiter Nefta et Douz, faire votre nuit dans le désert au départ de Douz ou Zaafrane, avec un chamelier du coin.
Si vous voulez les coordonnées d'un chamelier super qui est plébicité par presque toutes les personnes qui l'accompagnent, je puis vous donner, par message privé, les coordonnée de Mohamed, chamelier à Zaafrane (je ne perçois aucune commission, rassurez-vous) Vous passerez avec lui des moments magiques dans le désert
Mais il y a également d'excellents chameliers à Douz. il vous suffit de les contacter à votre arrivée (vous pouvez contacter "BEDOUIN" sur ce forum, elle connaît fort bien Douz et les agences sérieuses du coin)
Je ne vous conseille pas la nuit à Ksar Ghilane (mais ce n'est que mon avis) qui, depuis que la route est goudronnée est devenue super touristique et où vous retrouverez précisément des hordes de 4 x 4 des TO et des petites agences locales.
Octobre est le mois idéal pour visiter le sud, je suis certaine que vous allez adorer
Bonnes vacances
Que d'info!!! merci,
pas de visite organisée en groupe, rien que mon mari et moi, à notre rythme avec des spécialistes sur place (pas de mauvaise surprise si possible)
je prends volontier les coordonnées de Mohamed, chamelier à Zaafrane... si nous le contactons en arrivant en Tunisie est ce suffisant ? ou faut il tout organiser avant d'y aller ?
On rêve de désert et de dunes de sable....
Pas de quoi, avec plaisir.
Pour les coodonnées de Mohamed, la publicité étant interdite sur ce forum, en voyez moi votre adresse mail par message privé et je vous enverrai ses coordonnées.
Il est plus simple de lui demander les infos au niveau des prix etc...un peu à l'avance: ça vous permettra d'ailleurs de comparer avec d'autres agences qui organisent des méharées que vous pourriez contacter
Très bonne journée
Pour les coodonnées de Mohamed, la publicité étant interdite sur ce forum, en voyez moi votre adresse mail par message privé et je vous enverrai ses coordonnées.
Il est plus simple de lui demander les infos au niveau des prix etc...un peu à l'avance: ça vous permettra d'ailleurs de comparer avec d'autres agences qui organisent des méharées que vous pourriez contacter
Très bonne journée
Bonjour,
Nous partons en routard dans qq jours pour le sud de la Tunisie. Pourriez-vous nous indiquer le nom du chamelier sympa 🙂 ?
Merci d'avance
Camille
Nous partons en routard dans qq jours pour le sud de la Tunisie. Pourriez-vous nous indiquer le nom du chamelier sympa 🙂 ?
Merci d'avance
Camille
Salut
Cela fait plusieurs années. Déjà. Que j’allais en Tunisie.
Cévenol du sud de la France, nord de Nime. En plusieurs voyages par an, j’ai pu decouvrir ce pays du nord au sud…
Jeune retraité depuis quelques années, je passe 8 mois chaque année à Ghlissia la capital des chameliers. au sud de Douz…
Le top, la merveille, la plus grande decouverte c’est le Sahara du desert. Cette grandeur du Sahara, ses dunes il falait que j’y penetre, que je le decouvre vraiment…
J’ai compris pourquoi le grand professeur Mouad aimait beaucoup le desert…
La premiere meharée deux nuits trois jours trop courte. 6 jours… 8 jours… 12 voila quelques choses de bien : on devient vite accro. ; c’est tellement naturel, beau…
On devien observateur, debouillard, temeraire, resistant respectueux du Sahara et du ce beau pays.
Mounir, Mekki, les Mohameds etc… chaccun sa fonction et sa specialité… un carnet est necessaire pour notter ce que l’équipe va vous montrer… jamais avides d’explication… une équipe sue….
Vous desirez comme moi la T unisie et le Sahara : le rève, le dépaysement, la perte des soucisla remise en question… alos c’est avec cette équipe… n’hesitez pas…
Au fil des année j’ai totalement confiance à cette équipe dans toute mes meharée malgrais qu’il y a beaucoup des agences qui font ça… mais non… cette équipe est la meilleure. J’ai fait toute mes meharée avec eux… moi jamais deçu dans auccun circuit….
N’hesitez pas, contactez les je vous garantie ils sont les meilleurs… je ne perçois aucune commission, rassurez-vous...
si vous etes interrissé envoyer moi un message privé...
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Nous avons passé une très bonne semaine dans ce formidable pays... Tataouine, Chenini, Matmata et son h ôtel troglodyte. Très peu de touriste dans les sites et les ksour. Ksar gilane, la route est parfaitement goudronnée et accessible à une simple voiture à condition que le temps soit calme (ce n'était pas le cas, il y avait vent et pluie... donc trop de sable pour passer au bout de 30 Km, nous avons fait demi tour pourne pas rester ensablé vu le peu de passage sur cette piste. mon seul regret, je n'ai pas vu ksar gilane.
Zaafrane et une nuit dans le désert, Tozeur et sa palmeraie en voiture à cheval le soir, Nefta visitez la medina avec le guide de l'office du tourisme (extra), les oasis de montagne on en prend plein les yeux, le lézard rouge... que du positif
Les gens adorables, nous avions le temps de visiter tranquillement à notre rythme, pas d'horaire imposé. Nous y étions en plein ramadan mais aucune gène pour nous, on s'est organisé en conséquence.
MERCI aux membres du forum qui ont rendus cette expérience possible et intéressante, notamment Matmati – jamil – fradhjab – bienetre – fallbala... et les autres.
NB : la formule voiture, programme et quelques hôtels réservés est géniale et plus souple que le groupe, aucun problème pour s'en sortir à 2 même alors que nous n'avions pas d'expérience de ce type d'organisation(on va essayer de refaire pour d'autres destinations)
Nous voulons découvrir le sud tunisien 1 semaine en octobre, hors voyage organisé en voiture : Djerba - Matmata - Douz Nefta Tozeur -Ksar Gilane et retour sur Djerba, 1) est ce réalisable simplement en voiture et non pas en 4X4 en toute sécurité 2) faut-il changer d'hébergement à chaque étape ou pouvons nous rayonner au départ de l'une d'elle 3) nous rêvons d'une nuit dans le désert (dromadaire, marche, diner, campement) : qui peut nous conseiller l'endroit dunes/sable authentique où il faut réaliser cette escapade et à qui s'adresser pour l'organiser sérieusement. Merci de vos conseils,
MERCI aux membres du forum qui ont rendus cette expérience possible et intéressante, notamment Matmati – jamil – fradhjab – bienetre – fallbala... et les autres.
NB : la formule voiture, programme et quelques hôtels réservés est géniale et plus souple que le groupe, aucun problème pour s'en sortir à 2 même alors que nous n'avions pas d'expérience de ce type d'organisation(on va essayer de refaire pour d'autres destinations)
Nous voulons découvrir le sud tunisien 1 semaine en octobre, hors voyage organisé en voiture : Djerba - Matmata - Douz Nefta Tozeur -Ksar Gilane et retour sur Djerba, 1) est ce réalisable simplement en voiture et non pas en 4X4 en toute sécurité 2) faut-il changer d'hébergement à chaque étape ou pouvons nous rayonner au départ de l'une d'elle 3) nous rêvons d'une nuit dans le désert (dromadaire, marche, diner, campement) : qui peut nous conseiller l'endroit dunes/sable authentique où il faut réaliser cette escapade et à qui s'adresser pour l'organiser sérieusement. Merci de vos conseils,
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We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!





