Acheter des bijoux en Thaïlande?
by Cotentin
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
comment acheter des bijoux en Thailand sont ce faire avoir ?
Bonjour,
Des bijoux fantaisies ou des bijoux en or et pirres precieuses?
Pour les bijoux fantaisies je connais un peu le marche a Bangkok.
Chinatown chez les grossistes pour la fantaisie et Patpong chez les grossistes pour l'argent. Ils vendent aux particuliers à l'unite.
Pour les bijoux en or je ne connais pas mais par observation et lecture du Bangkok post et visite sur place plusieurs fois je te recommande une bijouterie qui me semble de tres bonne respectabilite, je crois que c'est l'orfevre officiel de la Famille Royale c'est la plus vielle bijouterie de Bankkok a l'interieur pas d'odeur d'arnaque.
Elle se trouve à" chinatown soi Sampan 1 "c'est le Soi des grossistes en gadgets etc...il faut aller voir cet etablissement qui est remarquable a tout point de vu.
Des bijoux fantaisies ou des bijoux en or et pirres precieuses?
Pour les bijoux fantaisies je connais un peu le marche a Bangkok.
Chinatown chez les grossistes pour la fantaisie et Patpong chez les grossistes pour l'argent. Ils vendent aux particuliers à l'unite.
Pour les bijoux en or je ne connais pas mais par observation et lecture du Bangkok post et visite sur place plusieurs fois je te recommande une bijouterie qui me semble de tres bonne respectabilite, je crois que c'est l'orfevre officiel de la Famille Royale c'est la plus vielle bijouterie de Bankkok a l'interieur pas d'odeur d'arnaque.
Elle se trouve à" chinatown soi Sampan 1 "c'est le Soi des grossistes en gadgets etc...il faut aller voir cet etablissement qui est remarquable a tout point de vu.
A Chiang Mai, il y a les fabriques de bijoux qui fournissent les grandes marques (Cartier, etc...).
Tu peux visiter et acheter... Tu seras accueilli à l'entrée et un guide s'occupe de toi jusqu'à ton départ. Ils parlent même le français... Là tu es tranquille, ce n'est pas de l'arnaque.
C'est un bijoutier chinois, marié à une Suissesse, qui m'a donné le tuyau!😉
Tu peux visiter et acheter... Tu seras accueilli à l'entrée et un guide s'occupe de toi jusqu'à ton départ. Ils parlent même le français... Là tu es tranquille, ce n'est pas de l'arnaque.
C'est un bijoutier chinois, marié à une Suissesse, qui m'a donné le tuyau!😉
Bonjour Dobbynette,
tu peux avoir l'adresse ou le nom de cette fabrique
merçi d'avance .
Marco
tu peux avoir l'adresse ou le nom de cette fabrique
merçi d'avance .
Marco
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Désolée, je n'arrive plus à me souvenir du nom.😊
Il faut partir en direction d'Ombrella Village et c'est le long de la route à droite. C'est le quartier des manufactures.
Tu dois pouvoir te renseigner sans problème à Chiang Mai.
Si le nom me revient, je ne manquerai pas de t'en faire part.😉
Il faut partir en direction d'Ombrella Village et c'est le long de la route à droite. C'est le quartier des manufactures.
Tu dois pouvoir te renseigner sans problème à Chiang Mai.
Si le nom me revient, je ne manquerai pas de t'en faire part.😉
Ok merci, je vois à peu près où c'est .😉
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
tombé dans le panneau une fois à BKK
mais rentré en france j'ai fait expertisé et pas gros avantage rapport qualité // prix
ne marchez jamais sur le chemin tracé
il ne te méne que là ou d'autres sont déjà allés
jps
Les ateliers qui fournissent les grandes marques ne sont pas accessibles. Tout simplement parce que toute la production doit être remise en totalité au donneur d'ordre sans qu'une seule pièce ne puisse être mise sur le marché par d'autres voies.
Souvent ces usines (comme Cartier près de Bangkok) sont de véritables forteresses.
Souvent ces usines (comme Cartier près de Bangkok) sont de véritables forteresses.
Faux, dans la région de Chiang Mai c'est possible, j'ai acheté des bijoux au mois d'avril de cette année...😊
Oui, il doit s'agir de celle-ci, bien que les aquariums ne m'aient pas frappés...
Moi je n'ai pas rencontré le patron, mais uniquement des employés. C'est tellement grand que le patron à d'autres chats à fouetter que de recevoir les touristes.
Personnellement, j'ai été entièrement satisfaite de ce que j'y ai acheté. Une parure en or blanc pour en. 300-350 Euros qui en Eupore est vendue 5-6 fois plus cher. La qualité est vraiment excellente.
Personnellement, j'ai été entièrement satisfaite de ce que j'y ai acheté. Une parure en or blanc pour en. 300-350 Euros qui en Eupore est vendue 5-6 fois plus cher. La qualité est vraiment excellente.
trans a bien resume le probleme . Les ateliers qui fournissent les grandes marques ne sont pas accessibles. Tout simplement parce que toute la production doit être remise en totalité au donneur d'ordre sans qu'une seule pièce ne puisse être mise sur le marché par d'autres voies.
Souvent ces usines (comme Cartier près de Bangkok) sont de véritables forteresses.
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le reste ... sont les pieres que les Grand fabricant, , ne veulent pas .. ( 2 emme chix ou 3 emme .. ) a vous ...
Souvent ces usines (comme Cartier près de Bangkok) sont de véritables forteresses.
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le reste ... sont les pieres que les Grand fabricant, , ne veulent pas .. ( 2 emme chix ou 3 emme .. ) a vous ...
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Il y a une telle quantite de pierres de 2 emme choix en thaiande que il n'est pas forcement nessesaire de metre du faux ..
on pourais peut etre comparer les pierres au vin !, , une bouteille est une bouteille .. mais le produit a l'interieur est diferent ......., ,
il faut etre un expert pour le savoir .. a vous ., ,
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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tu es etranger et donc forcement tu as un gros risque de te faire arnaquer, c'est le sport favori des locaux
un conseil, n'achete pas sur un coup de coeur;il faut marchander cad diviser le prix par 3 ou 4 et t'y tenir.Repere d'abord un bijou sembable a celui que tu desire et fait 3 a 4 satands ou boutiques, marchande pour t'entrainer et n'achete rien sans le faire savoir au vendeur evidemment et tu verra le prix reel en comparant tous les prix obtenus et ensuite acheter ton vrai bijou ou si par hasard tu as trouve un bijou dans une de tes boutiques tests revient et achete la ou c'est le moins cher...
je parle en connaissance de cause car je viens de passer 2 mois la bas
Arya
International Gems, je crois, avec les aquariums! On m'y a amené!! et ça date de quelques semaines à peine! C'est bien! Mais attention, c'est de la vente à pression! Il faut être prudent et fort coriace! J'ai acheté un bijou pour ma douce!! Je ne l'ai pas fait évalué en arrivant à Montréal... J'espère encore que je ne me suis pas fait avoir!!!😉
Sushifan
l'or a un cours mondial, , la seule chose ou tu peut gratter est sur la TVA
si tu veut acheter en Thailande, , c'est simple, , tu te pointe devant un magasin tout rouge, ( bien chinois ), tu regarde le prix du cour ( achat ou vente, , ) puis tu choisit selon l'amour que tu as de ta belle
attention l'or est pur, , pas du 18 carat comme en Europe, ,
pour l'or moins cher ......... il y a des coins, , mais la il faut la pâte thai, , , , , , ( et non le path thai !!)
photo, , marchand de rue devant le cour de l'or, , , , ,


« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Gem's jewelry est loin d'être un endroit où l'on fait des super affaires et je suis très sceptique sur cette parure en or qui serait vendue 6 fois plus cher en Europe... Les prix et la qualité de Gem's sont corrects, sans plus (le prix des pierres est plus cher à qualité égale que ce que l'on trouve chez des petits lapidaires), leurs certificats c'est du flan, aucune valeur sur le plan international. Ils fonctionnent à la commission, si vous arrivez en taxi, en tuk-tuk ou sur recommendation une partie de l'argent ira à ceux-ci, limitant d'autant votre capacité à négocier un rabais.
Si vous recherchez des bijoux originaux il faut aller chez Nova Jewelry sur Taphae Road. Pour des pierres non montées aller chez Shiraz (même rue).
Si vous recherchez des bijoux originaux il faut aller chez Nova Jewelry sur Taphae Road. Pour des pierres non montées aller chez Shiraz (même rue).
En parlant de Tuk tuk et taxi vous connaissez le tandem de Thai qui veule vous faire aller au bijouterie et tout, c'est a Ban rak,
pas loin de la poste.
Alors je vous explique : je regarde le cours de l'or avec ma copine, un gros thai bien habillé, vient vers ma femme et moi et nous dis a vous regarder l'or a china town il est moins cher. Venez prenez ce tuk tuk, il va vous emmener. Vraiment on avait confiance, premiere chose il nous emmene dans une bijouterie, les trucs pas a moins de 600 euros le collier ... ensuite blasé on dit c'est bon on paye le tuk tuk au juste prix et on rentre chez nous, il insiste il dis allez venez j'aurai le droit a un bon d'essence... pour lui faire plaisire on va chez Manhattan les tailleurs indiens... la on entre on regarde on se fait tout de suite harceler par un indien, il nous montre des tee shirt, les truc tout taché, hyper cher... franchement je voulais pas prendre, il insistai et deux vendeurs...donc la je m'en vais et il commence a parler en indien et rigole de nous deux, la je voulais les cogner ... Apres putain j'etai pas content pour le tuk tuk, tout ca pour gagner 30 baths... donc on est parti et voila donc attention au coin de rue, en plus c'est toujours de l'arnaque...
Alors je vous explique : je regarde le cours de l'or avec ma copine, un gros thai bien habillé, vient vers ma femme et moi et nous dis a vous regarder l'or a china town il est moins cher. Venez prenez ce tuk tuk, il va vous emmener. Vraiment on avait confiance, premiere chose il nous emmene dans une bijouterie, les trucs pas a moins de 600 euros le collier ... ensuite blasé on dit c'est bon on paye le tuk tuk au juste prix et on rentre chez nous, il insiste il dis allez venez j'aurai le droit a un bon d'essence... pour lui faire plaisire on va chez Manhattan les tailleurs indiens... la on entre on regarde on se fait tout de suite harceler par un indien, il nous montre des tee shirt, les truc tout taché, hyper cher... franchement je voulais pas prendre, il insistai et deux vendeurs...donc la je m'en vais et il commence a parler en indien et rigole de nous deux, la je voulais les cogner ... Apres putain j'etai pas content pour le tuk tuk, tout ca pour gagner 30 baths... donc on est parti et voila donc attention au coin de rue, en plus c'est toujours de l'arnaque...
"Je vais lui faire une offre qu'il ne refusera pas"
Affirmatif et le magasin d'usine de taille de pierres s'appelle GEMS GALLERY à CHIANGMAI
ou l'on peu visiter l'usine (photos interdites) effectivement il y a des charmantes guides parlant
le Français et en faite par rapport qualité prix aucune hésitation.
la Même maison éxiste Bangkok Phuket et Pattaya Bijoux Or et Pierres Précieuses Garanties
Michel 9119
la Même maison éxiste Bangkok Phuket et Pattaya Bijoux Or et Pierres Précieuses Garanties
Michel 9119
Michel9119
J'ai acheter des bijoux en Thaïlande, la vendeuse me disait que c'était des diamands donc je l'ai crue mais bon vue le prix de la bague même si c'était des faux ce n'était pas bien grave, a l'époque j'ai payé 100 euros une bague avec un rubis énorme et trois petits diamands, arrivée en Franc je l'ai amener au bijoutier pour qu'il me dise si c'était bien du vrai et il m'a expertisée ma bague a plus de 600 euros rien que la taille du rubis et des trois diamands donc je me considère pas arnaquer bien au contraire.
L'année d'après pareille dans le même ordre de prix un rubis et 4 diamands et bien nikel en france c'était bien des diamands. J'ai acheter dans une bijouterie dans une galerie marchande, dans bangkok et je suis pas déçu mais bon je me suis raisonné a mettre que 100 euros dans un bijoux.
Maintenant leur or est complètement différent 24 carat en générale, plus pure que le notre, plus déformable aussi, mais bon là ou ça vaut le coup c'est d'acheter là bas et de se faire faire quelque chose car la façon est moins chère qu'en France
le bijoutier combien de temps ça lui a pris pour "expertiser" la bague ? Combien ça t'as coûté pour l'expertise ?
Le mec qui regarde dans sa loupe 2 minutes et te donne un prix, c'est du cinoche. Seuls des labos spécialisés peuvent rendre une expertise qui te garantira si le rubis et les diamants sont vrais, et quelle en est la qualité. Et même eux ne donnent pas de prix. Il existe un cours officiel, et je ne vois pas de raison pour qu'un commerçant Thailandais vende des pierres précieuses 6 fois moins cher que leur prix réel.
Bijoutier en France ça veut simplement dire vendeur de bijoux... pas expert en pierre précieuses. Si tu lui avais demandé de racheter ta bague je suis bien curieux de savoir s'il aurait déboursé les 600 euros 😏
le bijoutier combien de temps ça lui a pris pour "expertiser" la bague ? Combien ça t'as coûté pour l'expertise ?
Le mec qui regarde dans sa loupe 2 minutes et te donne un prix, c'est du cinoche. Seuls des labos spécialisés peuvent rendre une expertise qui te garantira si le rubis et les diamants sont vrais, et quelle en est la qualité. Et même eux ne donnent pas de prix. Il existe un cours officiel, et je ne vois pas de raison pour qu'un commerçant Thailandais vende des pierres précieuses 6 fois moins cher que leur prix réel.
Bijoutier en France ça veut simplement dire vendeur de bijoux... pas expert en pierre précieuses. Si tu lui avais demandé de racheter ta bague je suis bien curieux de savoir s'il aurait déboursé les 600 euros
Je confirme....... La plupart des bijoutiers ne sont que des revendeurs et meme les fabriquants n ont pas fait d etudes de gemmologie..........Ils pourront seulement te renseigner precisement sur l or ou l argent en donnant leur titre (combien de carats). Ils ne sont d ailleurs pas accrediter pour expertiser mais ne peuvent que donner un avis........ Si l on veut connaitre reellement de quoi il resulte quant a une pierre precieuse ou fine, voir un objet d antiquite, seul un expert saura analiser correctement un gemme et meme (dans la plupart des cas) dire de quel mine il provient, tout cela en utilisant spectrometres, refractometres et autres appareils necessaires pour une expertise precise. La chambre de commerce de Paris peut par exemple aussi delivrer de tels certificats mais sans donner la valeur du gemme et il faut savoir que si les pierres sont montees sur bijoux, elles sont alors desserties de leur monture, une reelle expertise ne pouvant se faire sur une pierre precieuse sertie....... Mais ces expertises ont un cout.............!!! Pour terminer, il faut savoir que les pierres de syntheses s apparente incroyablement bien aux gemmes naturels et que les chimistes peuvent meme imiter des inclusions caracteristiques d une famille de pierre.......... On trouve meme desormais dans les mines (l achat de pierres precieuses et fines dans ces lieux etait auparavant une garantie d authenticite ) des gemmes brutes ............................synthetiques!!!
Je confirme....... La plupart des bijoutiers ne sont que des revendeurs et meme les fabriquants n ont pas fait d etudes de gemmologie..........Ils pourront seulement te renseigner precisement sur l or ou l argent en donnant leur titre (combien de carats). Ils ne sont d ailleurs pas accrediter pour expertiser mais ne peuvent que donner un avis........ Si l on veut connaitre reellement de quoi il resulte quant a une pierre precieuse ou fine, voir un objet d antiquite, seul un expert saura analiser correctement un gemme et meme (dans la plupart des cas) dire de quel mine il provient, tout cela en utilisant spectrometres, refractometres et autres appareils necessaires pour une expertise precise. La chambre de commerce de Paris peut par exemple aussi delivrer de tels certificats mais sans donner la valeur du gemme et il faut savoir que si les pierres sont montees sur bijoux, elles sont alors desserties de leur monture, une reelle expertise ne pouvant se faire sur une pierre precieuse sertie....... Mais ces expertises ont un cout.............!!! Pour terminer, il faut savoir que les pierres de syntheses s apparente incroyablement bien aux gemmes naturels et que les chimistes peuvent meme imiter des inclusions caracteristiques d une famille de pierre.......... On trouve meme desormais dans les mines (l achat de pierres precieuses et fines dans ces lieux etait auparavant une garantie d authenticite ) des gemmes brutes ............................synthetiques!!!
"Le patriotisme c'est l'esclavage"
TOLSTOI
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...seul un expert saura analiser...
et ça fait mal ?
et ça fait mal ?
En réponse à ...seul un expert saura analiser...
et ça fait mal ?
Oui....! Au porte feuille...........!! Ou autre part si cela se passe a Roissy avec un toubib des douanes.....................!!!
et ça fait mal ?
Oui....! Au porte feuille...........!! Ou autre part si cela se passe a Roissy avec un toubib des douanes.....................!!!
"Le patriotisme c'est l'esclavage"
TOLSTOI
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Mon bijoutier a plus de 30 ans de métier donc je vois pas où est le souci ensuite mes bijoux c'est pour mon plaisir personnel et non pour la revente donc franchement ce que je voulais dire c'est que je ne me suis pas fait arnaquer et bien heureuse d'avoir mes bijoux sur moi, j'ai simplement demander une vérification a mon bijoutier car les vendeurs là bas me certifier l'authenticiter.
Donc si on peut pas donner son avis sur du vécu a quoi sert se forum
Eviter Gem's (à Bangkok) si tu cherches vraiment de beaux bijoux pour le prix qu'ils valent!
Pour la petite histoire, j'y ai été emmenée en tuk tuk (qui se font payer leur benzine ou une comission, selon accord, ce qui en effet, ne permet pas à la bijouterie de baisser énormément ses prix), petite visite des ateliers puis à la fin, le magasin, où ils t'obligent presque à acheter quelque chose 🙂! Mais, bien entendu, tu peux dire non 😛! Ce qui n'est pas très apprécié d'ailleurs 🤪
Bon achat 🙂
Pour la petite histoire, j'y ai été emmenée en tuk tuk (qui se font payer leur benzine ou une comission, selon accord, ce qui en effet, ne permet pas à la bijouterie de baisser énormément ses prix), petite visite des ateliers puis à la fin, le magasin, où ils t'obligent presque à acheter quelque chose 🙂! Mais, bien entendu, tu peux dire non 😛! Ce qui n'est pas très apprécié d'ailleurs 🤪
Bon achat 🙂
tu n'as pas répondu à ma question, j'en conclus que ton bijoutier avec ses 30 ans de métier à vendre des bijoux, ne connait pas grand chose aux pierres précieuses ou alors n'a pas voulu faire de peine à un bon client...
Je ne crois pas un mot de ton histoire de bijoux acheté 100 euro dans une galerie marchande de Thailande et qui vaudrait 600 euro en Europe, c'est tout... maintenant si ça te fait plaisir d'y croire, tant mieux pour toi. Tu as le droit de donner ton avis, j'ai le droit de ne pas être d'accord et de le dire. Un forum est un lieu d'échange pas un lieu de propagande...
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Une chose est sûre c'est que l'expèrience d'un joallier de plus de 30 ans a plus de poids pour moi que tes paroles
Maintenant si les gens veulent se faire des plaisirs perso en s'offrant des bijoux en Thaïlande je vois pas où est le souci je ne vais pas là bas pour ça, mais il faut dire qu'ils ont des vitrimes quand même plus attrayante que chez nous d'où la tentation de se faire plaisir
Mon bijoutier a plus de 30 ans de métier donc je vois pas où est le souci ensuite mes bijoux c'est pour mon plaisir personnel et non pour la revente donc franchement ce que je voulais dire c'est que je ne me suis pas fait arnaquer et bien heureuse d'avoir mes bijoux sur moi, j'ai simplement demander une vérification a mon bijoutier car les vendeurs là bas me certifier l'authenticiter.
Donc si on peut pas donner son avis sur du vécu a quoi sert se forum
Bonjour! Sans etre aussi rude que DocTremblay, je peux juste t affirmer et repeter (en tant que professionnel dans les pierres precieuses, fines et ornementales depuis plus de 20 ans) qu une expertise correcte est impossible a effectuer, a moins de dessertir un gemme et de l analyser avec les appareils que j ai decrits dans mon post precedents, appareils que ne possedent pas les bijoutiers ou les joilliers, sauf tres rares exceptions.......! Pour la petite histoire, les bijoutiers ont souvent dans leurs vitrines des pierres de synthese sans qu ils ne le sachent, c est a dire par manque de connaissance en gemmologie et non pas par malhonnetete........ Et je repete egalement que la seule expertise possible qui garantisse un resultat professionnel ne peut etre l oeuvre que d un expert agree ou d une chambre de commerce quelconque par exemple........, mais que cela a un cout non negligeable! Cela n invalide pas le fait que tu aies pu faire une affaire, mais de l ordre de un a six et connaissant le marche professionnel en Thailande, je ne peux qu emettre de bienveillants doutes....!!!
Bonjour! Sans etre aussi rude que DocTremblay, je peux juste t affirmer et repeter (en tant que professionnel dans les pierres precieuses, fines et ornementales depuis plus de 20 ans) qu une expertise correcte est impossible a effectuer, a moins de dessertir un gemme et de l analyser avec les appareils que j ai decrits dans mon post precedents, appareils que ne possedent pas les bijoutiers ou les joilliers, sauf tres rares exceptions.......! Pour la petite histoire, les bijoutiers ont souvent dans leurs vitrines des pierres de synthese sans qu ils ne le sachent, c est a dire par manque de connaissance en gemmologie et non pas par malhonnetete........ Et je repete egalement que la seule expertise possible qui garantisse un resultat professionnel ne peut etre l oeuvre que d un expert agree ou d une chambre de commerce quelconque par exemple........, mais que cela a un cout non negligeable! Cela n invalide pas le fait que tu aies pu faire une affaire, mais de l ordre de un a six et connaissant le marche professionnel en Thailande, je ne peux qu emettre de bienveillants doutes....!!!
"Le patriotisme c'est l'esclavage"
TOLSTOI
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Il aurait tout de meme ete interessant de savoir si Cotentin avait ou pas achete des pierres precieuses en Thailande et quels avaient ete les "retours" des professionnels en France qu il a probablement eu le temps de consulter vu que son post date de plus de trois ans.......................!!!
"Le patriotisme c'est l'esclavage"
TOLSTOI
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Ton bijoutier est soudain devenu joallier ? Dans le prochain message il sera lapidaire, et dans le suivant gemmologiste ?
Je n'aime pas ce genre de message car il incite les voyageurs a tenter de débusquer des "bonnes affaires" similaires et ils tombent alors dans les mains de gens peu scrupuleux.
Des affaires telles que tu les décris ça n'existe pas, il faut être hyper clair là-dessus. La seule possibilité pour obtenir une telle culbute serait par le recel de pierres volées...
Donne ton bijoux à expertiser par un laboratoire sérieux, s'il confirme les dires de ton bijoutier, je paye la facture.
Je ne savais pas qu'il fallait que je dise exactement ce qu'était le bijoutier en question, il est bijoutier joalier, il fabrique lui même certain bijoux donc où est le problème c'est fou cet acharnement sur mon message et ce que je trouve révoltant c'est quand faite il faut tout détailler dans un message pour ne pas se faire lincher on donne un avis et ça va pas, ben surtout ne venez pas sur ce forum pour avoir des avis car en faite si quelqu'un n'est pas d'accord avec vous on s'acharne sur vous.
Mais bon, il y en a qui n'ont rien d'autre a faire de la journée pour s'acharner comme ça............
"c'est fou cet acharnement sur mon message "
Bonjour,
Vous avez bien raison, on n'a pratiquement plus le droit d'exprimer son avis, on se fait grossièrement attaquer, parfois même insulter en MP.
Il faut une certaine dose de masochisme depuis quelque temps pour oser répondre.
Triste constat.
Danielle
Bonjour,
Vous avez bien raison, on n'a pratiquement plus le droit d'exprimer son avis, on se fait grossièrement attaquer, parfois même insulter en MP.
Il faut une certaine dose de masochisme depuis quelque temps pour oser répondre.
Triste constat.
Danielle
A man, a plan, a canal, Panama - palindrome, auteur inconnu
Vous avez bien raison, on n'a pratiquement plus le droit d'exprimer son avis, on se fait grossièrement attaquer, parfois même insulter en MP.
Bonjour! Je vais donc donner le mien sur ce triste constat qui ressort de votre post, a savoir que vous recevez des messages prives insultants, ce que au demeurant, je ne cautionne pas, loin de la..........🙁 Toujours est-il que cela ne m est jamais arrive (et je suppose qu il en est de meme pour la majorite des membres du site) sur plus de 300 posts rediges, et bien qu exprimant parfois un avis different, un desaccord............................ Ces insultes a votre encontre sont bien...........................mysterieuses........! Toutefois, en jetant un oeil ne serait-ce que sur vos 20 derniers posts par exemple, on peut entrevoir un debut d explication.................
Bonjour! Je vais donc donner le mien sur ce triste constat qui ressort de votre post, a savoir que vous recevez des messages prives insultants, ce que au demeurant, je ne cautionne pas, loin de la..........🙁 Toujours est-il que cela ne m est jamais arrive (et je suppose qu il en est de meme pour la majorite des membres du site) sur plus de 300 posts rediges, et bien qu exprimant parfois un avis different, un desaccord............................ Ces insultes a votre encontre sont bien...........................mysterieuses........! Toutefois, en jetant un oeil ne serait-ce que sur vos 20 derniers posts par exemple, on peut entrevoir un debut d explication.................
"Le patriotisme c'est l'esclavage"
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Bonjour!
Je vais donc donner le mien sur ce triste constat qui ressort de votre post, a savoir que vous recevez des messages prives insultants, ce que au demeurant, je ne cautionne pas, loin de la..........
Toujours est-il que cela ne m est jamais arrive (et je suppose qu il en est de meme pour la majorite des membres du site) sur plus de 300 posts rediges, et bien qu exprimant parfois un avis different, un desaccord............................
Ces insultes a votre encontre sont bien...........................mysterieuses........!
Toutefois, en jetant un oeil ne serait-ce que sur vos 20 derniers posts par exemple, on peut entrevoir un debut d explication.................
C'est exactement le genre de message dont je parlais.
Votre réponse est bêtement méchante et intentionnellement blessante.
Quand je vois votre nom, je fuis tellement votre hargne me glace.
Je ne pouvais malheureusement pas m'imaginer que c'est vous qui me poursuivrez et qu'en plus vous vous mêleriez d'une discussion de manière aussi haineuse, en me traitant de menteuse, qui plus est.
Sachez que j'ai gardé tous les messages d'insultes mais que je connais suffisamment le droit, contrairement à vous apparemment, pour ne pas en donner connaissance à des tiers.
C'est exactement le genre de message dont je parlais.
Votre réponse est bêtement méchante et intentionnellement blessante.
Quand je vois votre nom, je fuis tellement votre hargne me glace.
Je ne pouvais malheureusement pas m'imaginer que c'est vous qui me poursuivrez et qu'en plus vous vous mêleriez d'une discussion de manière aussi haineuse, en me traitant de menteuse, qui plus est.
Sachez que j'ai gardé tous les messages d'insultes mais que je connais suffisamment le droit, contrairement à vous apparemment, pour ne pas en donner connaissance à des tiers.
A man, a plan, a canal, Panama - palindrome, auteur inconnu
Quand on vient poster sur un forum, il faut être prêt à accepter la contradiction. Si on est réfractaire à toute critique et que l'on prend des avis différents pour des "propos haineux, des attaques blessantes...." alors il faut éviter de poster des messages polémiques ou mal renseignés.
Moi je trouve votre réaction fort exagérée, je n'ai décelé aucune haine ou hargne glaçante dans les messages précédents. Maintenant si on pouvait refermer le chapitre "je fais ma crise de parano en direct" ce serait sympa... Il y a un modérateur qui est là pour réagir en cas de débordement, s'il n'est pas intervenu c'est qu'il a trouvé qu'il n'y avait pas matière à le faire.
Bonne journée
Moi je trouve votre réaction fort exagérée, je n'ai décelé aucune haine ou hargne glaçante dans les messages précédents. Maintenant si on pouvait refermer le chapitre "je fais ma crise de parano en direct" ce serait sympa... Il y a un modérateur qui est là pour réagir en cas de débordement, s'il n'est pas intervenu c'est qu'il a trouvé qu'il n'y avait pas matière à le faire.
Bonne journée
Pourquoi en rajouter dans le même genre ?
A man, a plan, a canal, Panama - palindrome, auteur inconnu
... ben je fais moi aussi partie d'un complot international, on s'inscrit sur les forums juste pour t'embêter, et on écrit des choses au sens caché pour dire du mal sans que tu le saches... chuuuuuut
i]"... ben je fais moi aussi partie d'un complot international, on s'inscrit sur les forums juste pour t'embêter, et on écrit des choses au sens caché pour dire du mal sans que tu le saches... chuuuuuut "
Oh ! J'ai tout décrypté, c'est ma spécialité. Et bien sache que c'est réciproque, tu me plais aussi beaucoup.
Fais de beaux rêves ...
Danielle
Oh ! J'ai tout décrypté, c'est ma spécialité. Et bien sache que c'est réciproque, tu me plais aussi beaucoup.
Fais de beaux rêves ...
Danielle
A man, a plan, a canal, Panama - palindrome, auteur inconnu
C'est la Gem's Gallery quand tu sors de Chiang Mai direstion Bo Sang, à 15 min en scoot, et la effectivement la première question après t'avoir salué est ta nationnalité et là tu te retrouve avec une hotesse, parlant couramment ta langue qui te guide de a à z.
J'ai fait quelques bons achats, et sans problèmes au niveau de la qualité !!!!
J'ai fait quelques bons achats, et sans problèmes au niveau de la qualité !!!!
"Rien n'est plus important que de vivre"
Ok merci Diablotyne de l'info, j'irais faire un tour quand je passerai par là . 😉
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Bonjour à tous
Je n ai pas trouvé d infos récentes sur Kuching
Est ce quelqu un peut recommander un hotel ou une guesthouse à moins de 100 RM bien et pas cher? pas de dortoir merci
Est ce qu en novembre il pleut beaucoup et aller à Semenggoh ou Bako vaut le coup ou pas?
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.