Voyage en Turquie fin août 2011
by Fargeas
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
nous allons partir en turquie à 3 en louant une voiture et avons choisi de visiter l EST de la Turquie
voici notre programme pour 16 jours
arrivée à ERZURUM
puis KARS, ANI, DOGUBAYAZIT, LE LAC DE VAN, DIYARBAKIR, MARDIM, SALIURFA
NEMRUT, 4 jours en Capadocce
retour par ANKARRA
qu en pensez vous ?
avez vous quelques conseils à me donner (adresses sympas d hotels, restau, )
pensez vous qu'il est possible avec une CLIO d 'accéder au site de NEMRUT ?
(à quelle heure le matin faut il etre sur place avant l 'arrivée des touristes ?)
(y a t il des auberges pas loin ?)
merci bcp pour votre aide
bel été 2011
sylvie
Bonjour,
pensez vous qu'il est possible avec une CLIO d 'accéder au site de NEMRUT ?
Oui, même avec une Ferrari Testarossa...
Michel
pensez vous qu'il est possible avec une CLIO d 'accéder au site de NEMRUT ?
Oui, même avec une Ferrari Testarossa...
Michel
Tout ça pour vous dire que vous pouvez y aller avec une Clio, bien sûr.
Il y a une sorte d'hôtel au sommet, quelques bouibouis qui font plus ou moins camping sur la route qui y mène depuis Kahta, mais vous pouvez loger où vous voulez, avec une voiture on est libre ; à Adiyaman par exemple.
Michel
Michel
Bonjour Catherine,
Où as-tu trouvé cette belle piste ? 🙂
Michel
Où as-tu trouvé cette belle piste ? 🙂
Michel
Il était fermé en juillet dernier.
Ah.... Pas bien grave.
Michel
Ah.... Pas bien grave.
Michel
Où as-tu trouvé cette belle piste ?
Ce n'est pas une piste, c'est le parking quand on monte via Malatya. De l'autre coté, puisque tu ne donnes pas de photo, c'est comme sur la photo ci-jointe.
Et puisque Sylvie se pose des questions sur les accès au Nemrut, elle en a ici et là deux versions.
Et au cas où il lui prendrait l'envie d'aller rendre visite à un Nemrut moins connu dans la zone géographique qu'elle a définie, elle peut aller faire un tour ici.
Catherine
Ce n'est pas une piste, c'est le parking quand on monte via Malatya. De l'autre coté, puisque tu ne donnes pas de photo, c'est comme sur la photo ci-jointe.
Et puisque Sylvie se pose des questions sur les accès au Nemrut, elle en a ici et là deux versions.
Et au cas où il lui prendrait l'envie d'aller rendre visite à un Nemrut moins connu dans la zone géographique qu'elle a définie, elle peut aller faire un tour ici.
Catherine
De l'autre coté, puisque tu ne donnes pas de photo, c'est comme sur la photo ci-jointe.
Oui, merci, j'ai déjà posté quelque part sur VF une photo équivalente, mais je ne sais plus où.
Et au cas où il lui prendrait l'envie d'aller rendre visite à un Nemrut moins connu dans la zone géographique qu'elle a définie, elle peut aller faire un tour ici.
Ah en voilà une bonne idée.
Pour Nemo : tu me prêtes la Ferrari, moi je me charge de l'amener au parking du sommet ; du côté que tu veux.
Michel
Oui, merci, j'ai déjà posté quelque part sur VF une photo équivalente, mais je ne sais plus où.
Et au cas où il lui prendrait l'envie d'aller rendre visite à un Nemrut moins connu dans la zone géographique qu'elle a définie, elle peut aller faire un tour ici.
Ah en voilà une bonne idée.
Pour Nemo : tu me prêtes la Ferrari, moi je me charge de l'amener au parking du sommet ; du côté que tu veux.
Michel
Bonjour,
Pour y avoir été il y a qques années, je confirme !, le Nemrut est accessible sans pb.
La meilleure heure ? : Le coucher de soleil avec Raki vivement conseillé !
bon voyage,
Razul
Surtout ne pas oublier les mezze avec
Salut,
Nous avions dormi à une bonne trentaine de km du Nemrut, donc pas à côté;
Dans les petites villes autour du Nemrut, il y a pas mal d'hôtels et "pansyon", ça devrait donc pas trop poser de pb.
Razul
Bonjour,
Que voudriez-vous savoir sur Mardin, Sanliurfa ou Harran ? Ou Van ?
Michel
Que voudriez-vous savoir sur Mardin, Sanliurfa ou Harran ? Ou Van ?
Michel
hier, j ai essayé d établir jour par jour notre circuit
et donc je voulais savoir si MARDIM , SANLIURFA et HARRAN vaillent le déplacement
car le temps nous est compté
au lac de Van je comptais y rester 2 jours pleins
(chateau et église arménienne sont nos priorités) -
as tu des idées ?
voili voilou
sylvie
Moi je n'aime pas beaucoup Mardin, mais ça vous plaira peut-être...
Faites une promenade itinérante au gré de vos humeurs et de ce qui vous retient, plutôt qu'un planning qui forcément ne sera pas respecté.
Michel
Michel
j'ai visité sanliurfa et je peux te dire qu'il vaut vraiment le coup d'y aller
Bonjour Nemo,
Sanliurfa en été ça va cogner.
Michel
Sanliurfa en été ça va cogner.
Michel
Bonjour Nemo,
Sanliurfa en été ça va cogner.
Michel
Bonjour michel,
c'est certain mais ca sera le cas pour une bonne partie de son voyage. Deja qu'au mois d'octobre je trouvais limite (je n'aime pas la chaleur). Mardin et haran aussi seront tres chaud.
Perso, je trouve que son circuit en 16 jours est trop ambitieux
Sanliurfa en été ça va cogner.
Michel
Bonjour michel,
c'est certain mais ca sera le cas pour une bonne partie de son voyage. Deja qu'au mois d'octobre je trouvais limite (je n'aime pas la chaleur). Mardin et haran aussi seront tres chaud.
Perso, je trouve que son circuit en 16 jours est trop ambitieux
Perso, je trouve que son circuit en 16 jours est trop ambitieux
C'est jouable, maintenant faut voir combien de temps on aime rester sur place.
Michel
C'est jouable, maintenant faut voir combien de temps on aime rester sur place.
Michel
Bonjour Catherine,
En plus, le meilleur me semble-t-il c'est de le voir depuis la colline qui le surplombe, là où il y a un café.
Michel
En plus, le meilleur me semble-t-il c'est de le voir depuis la colline qui le surplombe, là où il y a un café.
Michel
ps= demain je tel à l office du tourisme de paris pour demander
Ne perdez pas votre temps.
Michel
Ne perdez pas votre temps.
Michel
Bonjour Michel,
Un café, une cahute de babioles-souvenirs et surtout un parfum fabuleux qui flotte, les Turcs campant là faisant revenir la viande dans leur poele (nom ?) sur barbecue... de quoi créer une dépression stomacale énorme en un temps record... (jamais eu une faim aussi soudaine de ma vie 😏)
Je suis d'accord avec toi, c'est le panorama que l'on embrasse de ce lieu, le palais étant serti du paysage qui est le plus intéressant, mais peut-etre faut-il avoir erré un peu dans les salles désertes pour le savoir et j'imagine bien que trouver porte close peut etre source de grande frustration 🙂
Sur la photo ci-jointe c'était l'hiver (pas un lundi) et pas de pique-nique pas de parfum... 😕
Catherine
Un café, une cahute de babioles-souvenirs et surtout un parfum fabuleux qui flotte, les Turcs campant là faisant revenir la viande dans leur poele (nom ?) sur barbecue... de quoi créer une dépression stomacale énorme en un temps record... (jamais eu une faim aussi soudaine de ma vie 😏)
Je suis d'accord avec toi, c'est le panorama que l'on embrasse de ce lieu, le palais étant serti du paysage qui est le plus intéressant, mais peut-etre faut-il avoir erré un peu dans les salles désertes pour le savoir et j'imagine bien que trouver porte close peut etre source de grande frustration 🙂
Sur la photo ci-jointe c'était l'hiver (pas un lundi) et pas de pique-nique pas de parfum... 😕
Catherine
salut
pas de souci pour acceder au nemrut en véhicule. la balade est magnifique. les alentours aussi. pour dormir je vous conseille l'auberge à Karadut à 6kms du nemrut. tenue par des Kurdes très sympas qui vous renseigneront ce qu'il y a à visiter autour. la nuit avec petit dej inclus tourne autour de 12lires, je ne pense pas ça ait bcp augmenté depuis mon passage (fin2007). Ils préparent le diner et chose interessante le soir des villageois viennent s'attabler pour boire un café et discuter.
Mardin comme Michel je n'ai pas trop accroché. à faire pour la vue plongeante sur la plaine. les hôtels sont très chers ici. allez plutôt à Diyarbakir pour vous loger.
Dogubayizit : un endroit magnifique où l'identité kurde est très forte. perso j'ai adoré. il y a bcp de balades à faire. la ville nichée dans une plaine est entourée de montagnes dont le Mt Ararat qui culmine à plus de 5000m. Pour dormir j'étais à l'hôtel Tahran.
je dois m'absenter mais je reviendrai pr d'autres infos supplémentaires
l'est ce que j'ai préféré en Turquie
pas de souci pour acceder au nemrut en véhicule. la balade est magnifique. les alentours aussi. pour dormir je vous conseille l'auberge à Karadut à 6kms du nemrut. tenue par des Kurdes très sympas qui vous renseigneront ce qu'il y a à visiter autour. la nuit avec petit dej inclus tourne autour de 12lires, je ne pense pas ça ait bcp augmenté depuis mon passage (fin2007). Ils préparent le diner et chose interessante le soir des villageois viennent s'attabler pour boire un café et discuter.
Mardin comme Michel je n'ai pas trop accroché. à faire pour la vue plongeante sur la plaine. les hôtels sont très chers ici. allez plutôt à Diyarbakir pour vous loger.
Dogubayizit : un endroit magnifique où l'identité kurde est très forte. perso j'ai adoré. il y a bcp de balades à faire. la ville nichée dans une plaine est entourée de montagnes dont le Mt Ararat qui culmine à plus de 5000m. Pour dormir j'étais à l'hôtel Tahran.
je dois m'absenter mais je reviendrai pr d'autres infos supplémentaires
l'est ce que j'ai préféré en Turquie
re
petite rectif l'auberge de Karadut c'est 20YTL la nuit avec petit dej.
à Diyarbakir l'hôtel Aslan Palas kibris cad 21 est propre et convivial. il est situé sur la gde place où le soir les gamins jouent au foot. excellent resto populaire à 200m gauche en sortant de l'hôtel.
Sanli Urfa : l'une de mes étapes préférées bcp d'hôtel le long de la rue principale dont l'hôtel Harran et Ugur côte à côte. juste à coté de l'Ugur au pied des marches, le resto sert un super petit dej turc la ville est très animée, nombreux cars de pelerins car c'est une ville sainte. le bazar vaut vraiment le détour.
sur la route entre Taftan (lac de Van) et Diyarbakir, il y a Hassankeyf au bord du Tigre, à voir pour ses villages troglodytes et la citadelle perchée sur la montagne. la route est belle car elle suit le Tigre. le village est situé à une vingtaine de kms de Batman.
petite rectif l'auberge de Karadut c'est 20YTL la nuit avec petit dej.
à Diyarbakir l'hôtel Aslan Palas kibris cad 21 est propre et convivial. il est situé sur la gde place où le soir les gamins jouent au foot. excellent resto populaire à 200m gauche en sortant de l'hôtel.
Sanli Urfa : l'une de mes étapes préférées bcp d'hôtel le long de la rue principale dont l'hôtel Harran et Ugur côte à côte. juste à coté de l'Ugur au pied des marches, le resto sert un super petit dej turc la ville est très animée, nombreux cars de pelerins car c'est une ville sainte. le bazar vaut vraiment le détour.
sur la route entre Taftan (lac de Van) et Diyarbakir, il y a Hassankeyf au bord du Tigre, à voir pour ses villages troglodytes et la citadelle perchée sur la montagne. la route est belle car elle suit le Tigre. le village est situé à une vingtaine de kms de Batman.
merci pour votre message
il n y a que les 3 premières villes de votre circuit que ns avons en commun
j ai tel ce matin à l office du toursime de paris
il m ont confirmé que le LUNDI 22 aout le palais d Ishak sera fermé
aussi , je pense que nous attendrons le mardi pour le visiter
cordialement
sylvie
il m ont confirmé que le LUNDI 22 aout le palais d Ishak sera fermé
😏.....
Michel
😏.....
Michel
bonjour,
il me semble que le musée soit ouverte les lundis entre 13:30 et 18h ce qui n'etait pas le cas les lundis auparavant
il me semble que le musée soit ouverte les lundis entre 13:30 et 18h ce qui n'etait pas le cas les lundis auparavant
Némo,
Tu connais la Turquie, tu connais Dogubeyazit ?.... Tu sais bien que le gardien lui-même, si on lui posait la question, serait incapable de dire si le palais sera ou non ouvert un lundi de fin août. Alors l'office du tourisme......
Michel
Tu connais la Turquie, tu connais Dogubeyazit ?.... Tu sais bien que le gardien lui-même, si on lui posait la question, serait incapable de dire si le palais sera ou non ouvert un lundi de fin août. Alors l'office du tourisme......
Michel
mon info ne provient pas de l'office du tourisme de paris mais par ICI
(office du tourisme et de la culture de Agri)
(office du tourisme et de la culture de Agri)
salut
deux photos de Dogu pour vous donner une idée de ce que vous allez trouver
http://www.flickr.com/...t-72157604887173525/ http://www.flickr.com/...t-72157604887173525/
vous avez bien raison d'attendre, le palais est magnifique et fort bien conservé
à coté d'Ishak Pacha, il y a la mosquée d'Hani Baba à flanc de montagne
à Dogu, ne manquez pas d'aller manger dans le petit resto tenue par des femmes kurdes. ça mérite le détour d'une part car un resto tenu par des femmes c'est plutôt rare en Turquie (perso c'est le seul durant mes séjours) et d'autre part elles l'ont ouvert pour venir en aide à leurs maris/freres qui sont en prison. en plus la nourriture est bonne. C'est sous réserve car c'était fin 2007.
deux photos de Dogu pour vous donner une idée de ce que vous allez trouver
http://www.flickr.com/...t-72157604887173525/ http://www.flickr.com/...t-72157604887173525/
vous avez bien raison d'attendre, le palais est magnifique et fort bien conservé
à coté d'Ishak Pacha, il y a la mosquée d'Hani Baba à flanc de montagne
à Dogu, ne manquez pas d'aller manger dans le petit resto tenue par des femmes kurdes. ça mérite le détour d'une part car un resto tenu par des femmes c'est plutôt rare en Turquie (perso c'est le seul durant mes séjours) et d'autre part elles l'ont ouvert pour venir en aide à leurs maris/freres qui sont en prison. en plus la nourriture est bonne. C'est sous réserve car c'était fin 2007.
Bonjour,
A Dogubeyazit, faites quand même un peu attention à qui vous rencontrez et côtoyez.
Michel
A Dogubeyazit, faites quand même un peu attention à qui vous rencontrez et côtoyez.
Michel
pourquoi me dites vous ça ?
A Dogubeyazit il y a une situation potentiellement explosive tout de même, et beaucoup de trafiquants - attention aux propositions douteuses.
Michel
A Dogubeyazit il y a une situation potentiellement explosive tout de même, et beaucoup de trafiquants - attention aux propositions douteuses.
Michel
merci à vous
si vous vous aventurez dans les montagnes, soyez prudent.
pour vous loger, en sortant de la ville direction Ishak Pacha, après le camp militaire, sur la droite, il y a un camping tenu par un Kurde et sa famille associé avec un Hollandais (qui vient ici depuis de nombreuses années). Même si vous ne dormez pas ici, vous pouvez vous arrêter pour manger ou boire un thé, ils seront content de discuter et vous feront partager aussi des infos sur la région.
si vous vous aventurez dans les montagnes, soyez prudent.
pour vous loger, en sortant de la ville direction Ishak Pacha, après le camp militaire, sur la droite, il y a un camping tenu par un Kurde et sa famille associé avec un Hollandais (qui vient ici depuis de nombreuses années). Même si vous ne dormez pas ici, vous pouvez vous arrêter pour manger ou boire un thé, ils seront content de discuter et vous feront partager aussi des infos sur la région.
A Dogubeyazit il y a une situation potentiellement explosive tout de même, et beaucoup de trafiquants - attention aux propositions douteuses.
Michel
Bonjour,
Je pars dans un mois pour un séjour de 3 semaines, seul, dans ce secteur (atterrissage à Gaziantep). Je n'ai pas encore défini d'itinéraire précis ni de planning à respecter, juste noté quelques (voire un peu plus) endroits à visiter.
Au vu de l'actualité, j'ai cherché à me renseigner sur la situation et la sécurité dans la région, et un ami turc m'a indiqué que que Diyarbakir et Batman étaient des secteurs potentiellement dangereux. Qu'en pensez-vous? Dogubayizit présente aussi un danger?
Qu'entendez-vous par propositions douteuses!!? :)
Michaël
Michel
Bonjour,
Je pars dans un mois pour un séjour de 3 semaines, seul, dans ce secteur (atterrissage à Gaziantep). Je n'ai pas encore défini d'itinéraire précis ni de planning à respecter, juste noté quelques (voire un peu plus) endroits à visiter.
Au vu de l'actualité, j'ai cherché à me renseigner sur la situation et la sécurité dans la région, et un ami turc m'a indiqué que que Diyarbakir et Batman étaient des secteurs potentiellement dangereux. Qu'en pensez-vous? Dogubayizit présente aussi un danger?
Qu'entendez-vous par propositions douteuses!!? :)
Michaël
bonjour,
j'ai beaucoup d'amis istambuliotes qui se posent souvent la question de la dangerosité de l'est de leur pays, quand je leur dit que j'y vais où que j'en revient.... ils n'y vont jamais (et en plus ils regardent la télévision). c'est un peu comme, quelques années en arrière, les américains voyant à leurs infos que des "flammes" occupaient plusieurs villes françaises (problèmes dans certaines banlieues) que la france était à feu et à sang... donc, vous pouvez aller dans ces villes vous devrez faire attention à certains moments (la nuit p exemple... mais c'est aussi valable dans certains coin de chez nous, des grandes villes....) vous pourrez prendre le bus, les transports collectifs. Et de toutes façons, si il y a un "vrai" problème, la jandarma ou l'armée ne vous laissera pas passer.
Dominique
ps : proposition douteuse = achat de contrebande, usage de drogue....
j'ai beaucoup d'amis istambuliotes qui se posent souvent la question de la dangerosité de l'est de leur pays, quand je leur dit que j'y vais où que j'en revient.... ils n'y vont jamais (et en plus ils regardent la télévision). c'est un peu comme, quelques années en arrière, les américains voyant à leurs infos que des "flammes" occupaient plusieurs villes françaises (problèmes dans certaines banlieues) que la france était à feu et à sang... donc, vous pouvez aller dans ces villes vous devrez faire attention à certains moments (la nuit p exemple... mais c'est aussi valable dans certains coin de chez nous, des grandes villes....) vous pourrez prendre le bus, les transports collectifs. Et de toutes façons, si il y a un "vrai" problème, la jandarma ou l'armée ne vous laissera pas passer.
Dominique
ps : proposition douteuse = achat de contrebande, usage de drogue....
En voilà, une nouvelle rassurante.
A dire vrai, je ne me faisais pas vraiment de souci, je comptais surtout "prendre la température" à mon arrivée à Gaziantep, puis improviser une fois là-bas.
Voilà les étapes que j'envisage pour mon séjour de 3 semaines : Gaziantep, Sanliurfa, Harran, Diyarbakir, Batman, Hasankeyf, Van, Dogubayazit...
Je pensais me rendre à Mardin, mais les avis ne paraissent pas très positifs à son sujet. Qu'est-ce qui ne vous a pas plus dans cette ville/région?
Quel avis concernant Midiyad..? D'autres sites sont-ils à conseiller, plus au sud-est?
A tout hasard, vu que je suis fan de foot, quelqu'un est-il déjà allé voir un match de Gaziantepspor?? :)
A dire vrai, je ne me faisais pas vraiment de souci, je comptais surtout "prendre la température" à mon arrivée à Gaziantep, puis improviser une fois là-bas.
Voilà les étapes que j'envisage pour mon séjour de 3 semaines : Gaziantep, Sanliurfa, Harran, Diyarbakir, Batman, Hasankeyf, Van, Dogubayazit...
Je pensais me rendre à Mardin, mais les avis ne paraissent pas très positifs à son sujet. Qu'est-ce qui ne vous a pas plus dans cette ville/région?
Quel avis concernant Midiyad..? D'autres sites sont-ils à conseiller, plus au sud-est?
A tout hasard, vu que je suis fan de foot, quelqu'un est-il déjà allé voir un match de Gaziantepspor?? :)
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We're back. It's still a bit tough to get precise info, so here's a quick trip report!
A good starting point is Shkoder, a really pleasant city. You can easily explore Shkoder itself in a day or two.
Two accessible spots: Valbona and Theth. In both cases, local travel agencies in Shkoder or online offer round-trip or one-way access packages. Super handy, especially for Valbona.
Valbona and Theth are both very steep! There aren’t many easy hikes for less sporty folks (like me!).
Valbona: The highlight is the amazing 2.5-hour boat ride across Lake Koman. There are day trips from Shkoder, but you’ll only get a short tour of the lake. The best option is to do the full crossing—so spend a night in Valbona (or two if you want to hike in the valley) and return.
Theth is deeply nestled in the mountains. The village at the end of the valley, which is a dead end, has lots of hotels, but they’re pricey. Other hostels are scattered along the mountainside road, but it’s a steep climb down to the village or to the start of the two easy hikes (waterfalls and the Blue Eye). For us, it was a one-hour descent (and ascent!). It’s fine if you have a car; otherwise, keep an eye out for a taxi (cheap) or try hitchhiking—it works really well. Access from Shkoder to Theth is through an agency. The road is in great condition, and you can also rent a car for 2-3 days in Shkoder. If we did it again, that’s the option we’d choose.
We didn’t do the trek and returned to Shkoder each time. I can’t speak to its difficulty, but we were there in late May, and even experienced hikers had given up because of heavy rain and snow.
Hope this helps! It’s a stunning region you shouldn’t miss.
A good starting point is Shkoder, a really pleasant city. You can easily explore Shkoder itself in a day or two.
Two accessible spots: Valbona and Theth. In both cases, local travel agencies in Shkoder or online offer round-trip or one-way access packages. Super handy, especially for Valbona.
Valbona and Theth are both very steep! There aren’t many easy hikes for less sporty folks (like me!).
Valbona: The highlight is the amazing 2.5-hour boat ride across Lake Koman. There are day trips from Shkoder, but you’ll only get a short tour of the lake. The best option is to do the full crossing—so spend a night in Valbona (or two if you want to hike in the valley) and return.
Theth is deeply nestled in the mountains. The village at the end of the valley, which is a dead end, has lots of hotels, but they’re pricey. Other hostels are scattered along the mountainside road, but it’s a steep climb down to the village or to the start of the two easy hikes (waterfalls and the Blue Eye). For us, it was a one-hour descent (and ascent!). It’s fine if you have a car; otherwise, keep an eye out for a taxi (cheap) or try hitchhiking—it works really well. Access from Shkoder to Theth is through an agency. The road is in great condition, and you can also rent a car for 2-3 days in Shkoder. If we did it again, that’s the option we’d choose.
We didn’t do the trek and returned to Shkoder each time. I can’t speak to its difficulty, but we were there in late May, and even experienced hikers had given up because of heavy rain and snow.
Hope this helps! It’s a stunning region you shouldn’t miss.
We’re a Canadian couple, both 77, and we’re already planning our vacation for fall 2027.
Timeframe: mid-September to mid-October... dates are flexible, and we might stay even longer.
Initially, I had planned this itinerary:
Athens (3), Naxos (4), Paros (4), Santorini (4), then a flight to Istanbul (7–10 days!!). This would let us maximize our flights and experience another culture.
That’s a lot of ferries, though... I’ve already cut out Milos.
Our second option would be to stay 2 x 15 days on two different islands, but I’d still keep Istanbul as our next destination... or maybe 30 days on one island that offers the chance to take day trips to other islands where the ferry ride is no more than 2 to 2.5 hours. For example, Naxos to Paros only takes 30 minutes. We could return the same evening or stay overnight.
Naxos seems like the best option!!!
For Istanbul, of course we want to do a day cruise on the Bosphorus and see Hagia Sophia. If we stay 6–7 days, what would be the other main attractions? Are there any points of interest we can reach by local bus?
Our second option would be to stay 2 x 15 days on two different islands, but I’d still keep Istanbul as our next destination... or maybe 30 days on one island that offers the chance to take day trips to other islands where the ferry ride is no more than 2 to 2.5 hours. For example, Naxos to Paros only takes 30 minutes. We could return the same evening or stay overnight.
Naxos seems like the best option!!!
For Istanbul, of course we want to do a day cruise on the Bosphorus and see Hagia Sophia. If we stay 6–7 days, what would be the other main attractions? Are there any points of interest we can reach by local bus?
Hi there!
We bought our tickets to Greece at the end of November 2025, and let’s just say the geopolitical climate has really taken a turn since then with the war started by the United States against Iran. Not to mention all the other conflicts happening around the world 😕... Anyway!
Our flight from Montreal is on May 1st, and I was wondering how things are currently being experienced in Greece.
We were planning to rent a car and had already booked accommodations on three Cyclades islands!!
The oil shortage is also worrying us...
If you could share some insights on this, that would be great!
Thanks!!
Thanks!!
A little trip report from an 11-day journey to Albania at the end of April 2026, with two friends in their early sixties and beyond...
Our route: Berat, Gjirokastër, Himarë, Tirana
Here are some opinions, tips, and great deals to share:
Flight Round-trip Beauvais-Tirana: Ryanair, 260 € with checked baggage (20 kg) and seat selection. Flight was fine and on time. 2h 30min flight.
Exchange: 1 € was worth 95 lek in April 2026. We were advised to exchange in the airport hall at the Illiria counter (98 lek outside the security zone), saying we wouldn’t find a better rate. However, the exchange rate was 93 lek for 1 euro, while in the city it was 95...
Car rental at Tirana airport for 9 days via Booking.com: 144 € (56 € for the car rental and 88 € for optional full insurance deductible waiver).
Wheego agency: the car was fine, but be careful when signing the contract—they tried to convince us that the insurance taken through Booking didn’t cover everything and insisted we take their own insurance for 250 €... We refused.
After reading about driving in Tirana, instead of starting our trip by visiting the capital, we decided to head straight to Berat upon arrival and return the car at the end of the trip to explore the city on foot. This turned out to be a great choice!
Accommodations: All our stays were booked via Booking.com. Everyone prefers to be paid in euros and in cash—they mention this when booking.
Berat: 2-hour drive from the airport.
Accommodation: Vila Arben Elezi: 135 € for 3 nights with breakfast and private parking. The room was decent and clean but a bit dark, located slightly below ground level near the parking. However, the breakfast on the rooftop was excellent, especially with the stunning view of the "city of a thousand windows." Great location.
Berat was our favorite—there are lovely walks through the different neighborhoods on both sides of the river, each with a very different vibe. The citadel visit is also fascinating, as it’s like a small town within the fortress.
The walk along the river is pleasant, with plenty of restaurant choices. Other restaurants in the old town are also very nice. The White House Restaurant, on the first floor along the road, is good and offers a great view of the Gorica district.
Gjirokastër:
Accommodation: Te Ajdini Guest House: 120 € for 3 nights with breakfast. A private home stay. There’s free parking just before entering the city, a 5-minute walk from the accommodation, which is very convenient since the cobblestone streets are narrow and parking is tricky. Yes, it’s a climb to get to the place, but everything in this city is uphill... The room was bright and clean. Breakfast was very good, hearty, and served in the courtyard with a view of the castle. The guesthouse is a 5-minute walk from the city center (the bazaar) but in a quiet area.
Restaurants: Rrapi and Kujtimi—good and affordable with their little pergolas.
The old town of Gjirokastër is charming but very touristy, with streets packed with souvenir shops and restaurant tables and chairs. Lots of people.
-The bunker visit (near the tourist office) is very interesting: Cold War Tunnel.
The castle offers a beautiful view of the city.
-Visit to the Ottoman house Skenduli: very well done. Don’t forget to climb the ladder facing a trapdoor in the ceiling to see the roof’s framework—it’s like a forest of beams: impressive!
-The bridge Ura e Ali Pasha: A steep 45-minute climb from the city to the site is worth it, but once you reach the viewpoint (which is stunning), you have to go back down a path to reach the bridge. You can drive to the viewpoint, but parking is very tricky.
Around Gjirokastër:
-Just outside the city: Lake Liqeni i Viroit: a nice, ordinary-looking lake, but at the end, there’s a natural spring making the water crystal clear and a brilliant blue—really spectacular, like photos of Blue Eye near Sarandë.
-Drive to Përmet along the gorges: beautiful viewpoints along the way and lovely countryside.
Himarë:
Accommodation: Vila Kosteli: 120 € for 2 nights with breakfast—slightly overpriced for this type of place but very close to a small beach and not far from the promenade with all the restaurants. Private parking, but very tight (4 cars on a tiny lot along the road). The "sea view" room is a bit obstructed by the building across the street. However, the rooftop breakfast view is beautiful. Friendly staff.
Himarë is a pleasant seaside resort, quite calm (but it was April...). There’s a cute promenade with restaurants along the beach. The castle on the heights of Himarë is worth a visit.
Around Himarë:
-Qeparo is worth a quick stop, but Qeparo village is really worth the detour: a village lost in the heights after a scenic drive up from the coastal road—narrow but well-maintained. Beautiful view from the top and a charming village.
-The Big Bunker and Llogora Panorama: take a right turn several kilometers after Dhermi—a road that climbs steeply from the start... A breathtaking winding road that reaches 900 meters in altitude. The view is stunning.
-Several small villages between Dhermi and Himarë are worth a quick stop.
-Porto Palermo Castle is somewhat disappointing.
Tirana:
Taxi from Tirana airport to the city center: 15 € with electric taxis (Green Taxi, Bee Taxi, Do Taxi).
Accommodation: Hotel Nevi Apartment: 63 € for 2 nights. A private apartment in an older building but very clean and well-equipped, with a kitchen and small enclosed balcony.
Great welcome and contact—the owner even booked a taxi for our departure. Very well located, close to the main square, shops, and restaurants. A small supermarket nearby is perfect for stocking up on breakfast supplies.
The city is lively and dynamic, with plenty of green spaces and promenades. Buildings are popping up everywhere, often with surprising architecture—like a building shaped like a face, a huge golden cube, and many others under construction.
-Sky Tower: at the top, a rotating bar offers a 360° view of the city and its buildings. Drinks are a bit pricier than usual, but it’s totally worth it (6 € for a beer or a glass of white wine, 3 € for coffee). We were there for sunset, and it was amazing! A must-do. Arrive early, as it fills up quickly.
-The House of Leaves: a house used for secret surveillance and interrogations during the dictatorship... A great way to learn about the surveillance systems of that era.
-Bunk’Art 2: a bunker in the heart of the city—very interesting, covering the dictatorship period and its system...
-The Pazari i Ri Bazaar: the new bazaar district. The large hall is worth a visit, but souvenir prices are often higher than elsewhere... The area is nice.
Restaurant: Kastrati Restaurant—a bit like a canteen with lots of traditional dishes. It’s on the first floor of a building. Excellent value for money, and the waitress explains the dishes in French.
That’s a little overview of our trip and my personal impressions! Albania is a beautiful and pleasant country to visit. If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
That’s a little overview of our trip and my personal impressions! Albania is a beautiful and pleasant country to visit. If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
What are the main sights to visit on Rhodes itself or the surrounding islands, and what’s the weather like? We’re leaving on May 18th.
Hi everyone,
We’re thinking of spending 3 weeks in Crete between mid-August and early September, renting a car, quickly exploring a few spots in the east, and focusing on the west, southwest, and south.
I’m worried about the heavy tourist crowds. Is it really more noticeable than elsewhere in Greece? Is there a way to avoid the crowds without missing out on the iconic places, which I imagine are stunning in Crete? Thanks for your thoughts and experiences!
Hi,
I'm heading to Greece via Albania soon. Does anyone have info on transportation from Gjirokastër to Ioannina?
Which company, fares, and schedules—it's not very clear with Google.
Thanks!
Patrice
Thanks!
Patrice
Hi everyone,
I’m just passing through Bratislava quickly (one afternoon, one night, one morning) and I’d love to see the highlights of the city. I’ve put together a little itinerary—feel free to let me know what you think!
Start at the castle and its beautiful viewpoint Visit the Baroque gardens St. Martin’s Cathedral, quick visit National Theatre Discover the Cumil statues Primatial Palace via Hlavné Namestie Michael’s Gate Grassalkovich Palace via Obchodna Walk across Namesti Slobody to head back to the upside-down pyramid Head down to the Blue Church Cross the Danube to see Sad Janka Krala, then return via the UFO Bridge There you go—10 km and a packed day! What do you think?
Thanks, Stéphane.
I’m just passing through Bratislava quickly (one afternoon, one night, one morning) and I’d love to see the highlights of the city. I’ve put together a little itinerary—feel free to let me know what you think!
Start at the castle and its beautiful viewpoint Visit the Baroque gardens St. Martin’s Cathedral, quick visit National Theatre Discover the Cumil statues Primatial Palace via Hlavné Namestie Michael’s Gate Grassalkovich Palace via Obchodna Walk across Namesti Slobody to head back to the upside-down pyramid Head down to the Blue Church Cross the Danube to see Sad Janka Krala, then return via the UFO Bridge There you go—10 km and a packed day! What do you think?
Thanks, Stéphane.
Hi,
I’m renting a car in Greece (Heraklion).
Should I get extra insurance?
What’s driving like with the Greeks?
Thanks for any tips!
Hi there,
we’re heading to Crete from May 8th to 15th, staying at a hotel in Agia Pelagia, 20 km from Heraklion, on half-board, so we’ll be back every evening. What daily itinerary would you recommend? We love hiking and discovering local cultures...
Thanks in advance!!
Hello,
We’re heading to Prague with so much excitement from June 10th to 20th. I’ve got three main questions for those who live there or have visited:
- What are your thoughts on what to pack clothing-wise? What’s the weather usually like at this time of year? We’re a bit sensitive to the cold—we live way down in southern Andalusia and are used to the *calor* 😎... Should we pack rain gear? Are we likely to get a lot of rain (which we’re dreading a little, but we couldn’t choose other dates)?
- I’ve seen there are "passes" for various attractions, museums, and sites, including one that’s valid for 10 days but costs a whopping 160 € per person—that’s an average of 16 € per day. Do you think it’s really worth it? We won’t be spending our days rushing between every indoor site; we also love wandering the streets and discovering things a bit "at random." If we do two paid visits a day, that’ll probably be the max... Can we make it worth the cost with that? Of course, we want to visit the castle and take a boat trip as a minimum. Are the sites included in these passes iconic, or are they more "minor" attractions? Does having the pass help us skip long lines?
- Finally, a question about communication: I speak French, obviously, plus Spanish and English fluently, but very little German (haven’t practiced in ages), and no Russian or Czech at all. My husband knows a few words of Russian, but it’s "Cuban" Russian—about the same level as my current German 🙂 !! Can we still get by without too much trouble? We don’t want to spend 10 days not saying a word to anyone and communicating only with gestures!!
Thanks for your valuable tips and opinions.
hi,
I'm looking to rent a small car, not too expensive, for Crete in April. Do you have any great tips? Thanks in advance! Best regards
I'm looking to rent a small car, not too expensive, for Crete in April. Do you have any great tips? Thanks in advance! Best regards
Hi there!
We’re heading to Crete (Heraklion) as a couple and I’d like to rent a car.
1) Do we need an international driver’s permit?
2) Are rentals super expensive?
Thanks everyone!
Hi there
I’d like to know how much a meal costs on average in zloty in Poland (Warsaw, Kraków, Częstochowa, Wadowice), and also the price of souvenirs like postcards and magnets—so I don’t end up with too many zlotys left after my 5-day trip to Poland?
I’d like to know how much a meal costs on average in zloty in Poland (Warsaw, Kraków, Częstochowa, Wadowice), and also the price of souvenirs like postcards and magnets—so I don’t end up with too many zlotys left after my 5-day trip to Poland?
Hi everyone,
I’m just passing through the city very quickly (one afternoon, one night, one morning) and I’d love to see as many must-see spots as possible. I’ve put together a little itinerary—let me know what you think!
Visit to Varosliget Park Heroes’ Square Quick stop in the southern part of Margitsziget (for the photo with the Budapest sign!!!) Gül Baba Mausoleum and Rose Garden Fisherman’s Bastion Church of the Assumption of Our Lady of Budavár Tóth Árpád stny promenade Budavar Palace Freedom Square Parliament
This is just a first draft. I still have a few months to tweak it.
Thanks!
Stéphane.
I’m just passing through the city very quickly (one afternoon, one night, one morning) and I’d love to see as many must-see spots as possible. I’ve put together a little itinerary—let me know what you think!
Visit to Varosliget Park Heroes’ Square Quick stop in the southern part of Margitsziget (for the photo with the Budapest sign!!!) Gül Baba Mausoleum and Rose Garden Fisherman’s Bastion Church of the Assumption of Our Lady of Budavár Tóth Árpád stny promenade Budavar Palace Freedom Square Parliament
This is just a first draft. I still have a few months to tweak it.
Thanks!
Stéphane.
hello
I’m looking for advice for a last-minute trip—about 3 weeks (half Montenegro, half Croatia).
I’m traveling solo, backpacker style (low budget, hostels). I’m 40 and love exploring cool spots—cities, beaches, mountains, sports activities, you name it.
I’m torn between renting a car or just going with the flow using buses once I’m there. A car would definitely be more convenient, but it might be pricier—plus, parking (is it paid?) and having to return it to the same place. My plan is to start in Montenegro (flying into Podgorica or Albania) and finish in Croatia, so I’d either need to do short-term rentals per country or one-way.
In Montenegro, here are the spots I’ve noted: - Ulcinj and Velika Plaža beach - A side trip to Lake Skadar and Virpazar - Budva, Sveti Stefan, and Petrovac - Cetinje and Lovćen National Park - Kotor / Perast - Žabljak and Durmitor National Park + rafting in the Tara Canyon Is 8–10 days enough?
And in Croatia, I’ve got: - Dubrovnik - Korčula - Hvar - Split + Trogir and Krka National Park - Zadar - Plitvice Lakes National Park - Croatian Istria / Rovinj / Pula - Zagreb Around 10–12 days.
Any tips on the stops (adding or cutting some from my list) or transportation options?
Thanks in advance!
I’m torn between renting a car or just going with the flow using buses once I’m there. A car would definitely be more convenient, but it might be pricier—plus, parking (is it paid?) and having to return it to the same place. My plan is to start in Montenegro (flying into Podgorica or Albania) and finish in Croatia, so I’d either need to do short-term rentals per country or one-way.
In Montenegro, here are the spots I’ve noted: - Ulcinj and Velika Plaža beach - A side trip to Lake Skadar and Virpazar - Budva, Sveti Stefan, and Petrovac - Cetinje and Lovćen National Park - Kotor / Perast - Žabljak and Durmitor National Park + rafting in the Tara Canyon Is 8–10 days enough?
And in Croatia, I’ve got: - Dubrovnik - Korčula - Hvar - Split + Trogir and Krka National Park - Zadar - Plitvice Lakes National Park - Croatian Istria / Rovinj / Pula - Zagreb Around 10–12 days.
Any tips on the stops (adding or cutting some from my list) or transportation options?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m heading to Pelion with my partner and then to Chalkidiki around mid-September (from September 12th to 26th). I arrive in Thessaloniki on Saturday evening and plan to spend a day there to check out the market (though it’s marked as temporarily closed on Google??) and, most importantly, enjoy the local food scene.
After that, I’ll head toward Meteora (Sunday evening/Monday), spend a week in Pelion, and then head up to Nikiti to finish the trip (5 days in Vourvourou) and explore the beaches of Sithonia. We’ll also make a trip to Afytos since I think it’s worth the detour.
About Pelion, I’m really not sure where to stay because the distances between Volos and Afissos aren’t straightforward.
I’m looking for a quiet spot but with a little evening activity—like strolling through a village or by the sea. I’ve seen a few suggestions via ChatGPT, but I’m not convinced about the vibe (Milies, Makrinitsa).
Volos is big… but kind of ugly.
We love hiking, spending time in picturesque/typical villages, and, like everyone else, tasting local specialties. As for balancing the trip, I’m open to changes or adjustments if you’ve got any tips—I’d love to hear them, along with any other ideas.
I’m heading to Pelion with my partner and then to Chalkidiki around mid-September (from September 12th to 26th). I arrive in Thessaloniki on Saturday evening and plan to spend a day there to check out the market (though it’s marked as temporarily closed on Google??) and, most importantly, enjoy the local food scene.
After that, I’ll head toward Meteora (Sunday evening/Monday), spend a week in Pelion, and then head up to Nikiti to finish the trip (5 days in Vourvourou) and explore the beaches of Sithonia. We’ll also make a trip to Afytos since I think it’s worth the detour.
About Pelion, I’m really not sure where to stay because the distances between Volos and Afissos aren’t straightforward.
I’m looking for a quiet spot but with a little evening activity—like strolling through a village or by the sea. I’ve seen a few suggestions via ChatGPT, but I’m not convinced about the vibe (Milies, Makrinitsa).
Volos is big… but kind of ugly.
We love hiking, spending time in picturesque/typical villages, and, like everyone else, tasting local specialties. As for balancing the trip, I’m open to changes or adjustments if you’ve got any tips—I’d love to hear them, along with any other ideas.
Hi! We’d like to go away for 10 days around May 15th, either to Menorca or Crete—we don’t know either place. We love hiking, unspoiled nature, good food, swimming, and, if possible, avoiding crowds. We enjoy getting off the beaten track. Menorca seems ideal because it’s not far by plane from Lyon, but if Crete is really wilder and more beautiful in terms of landscapes, we can add an extra hour of flight time. Can you help us out? Thanks!
Hi everyone,
I'm on my way to Slovakia, where I'll be spending about ten days on vacation in the High Tatras. I've decided to stop in Prague for 24 hours with my two teens (arriving around noon, leaving the next day). We don’t know the city at all. I know a single day is way too short to discover everything, so I’d like to plan a small circuit to see the must-see spots.
Here’s what I’ve planned:
Walk through Nový Svět street Visit the castle, St. Vitus Cathedral, and Golden Lane Quick stop at Vojanovy Sady gardens Malá Strana Square Maltese Square Kampa Island Then the iconic Charles Bridge and a short tour of the Jewish Quarter We’ll head back down to visit Old Town Square (Malé Náměstí, St. Nicholas Church, and the Church of Our Lady before Týn) Head to Wenceslas Square and the Church of Our Lady of the Snows Then to the Church of Saints Cyril and Methodius and the Dancing House And finally, back to the starting point.
Estimated distance: 10 km
I was thinking of a little evening stroll up Petřín Hill... what do you think? Are there things that aren’t really worth it, or other spots that are must-sees?
Thanks for your thoughts and feedback!
Stéphane.
I'm on my way to Slovakia, where I'll be spending about ten days on vacation in the High Tatras. I've decided to stop in Prague for 24 hours with my two teens (arriving around noon, leaving the next day). We don’t know the city at all. I know a single day is way too short to discover everything, so I’d like to plan a small circuit to see the must-see spots.
Here’s what I’ve planned:
Walk through Nový Svět street Visit the castle, St. Vitus Cathedral, and Golden Lane Quick stop at Vojanovy Sady gardens Malá Strana Square Maltese Square Kampa Island Then the iconic Charles Bridge and a short tour of the Jewish Quarter We’ll head back down to visit Old Town Square (Malé Náměstí, St. Nicholas Church, and the Church of Our Lady before Týn) Head to Wenceslas Square and the Church of Our Lady of the Snows Then to the Church of Saints Cyril and Methodius and the Dancing House And finally, back to the starting point.
Estimated distance: 10 km
I was thinking of a little evening stroll up Petřín Hill... what do you think? Are there things that aren’t really worth it, or other spots that are must-sees?
Thanks for your thoughts and feedback!
Stéphane.
Hello
It’s decided—next summer, it’s Cyprus! A region we don’t know yet, with nature, culture, beach time, and diving the Zenobia 😎 We’re thinking of a 2-week trip.
After flipping through the LP guide, I’m still unsure about the best bases—I can’t quite picture the distances...
Option 1: Stay near Larnaca for 1 week and Paphos for the other. But from Larnaca, Cape Greco is doable. Wouldn’t it be better to stay near Cape Greco (Protaras?) instead? What about getting to Lefkara? Same from Paphos—easy to explore as far as Kourion.
Option 2: A single, more central base somewhere between Limassol and Larnaca.
Thanks for your tips and great deals 😉
It’s decided—next summer, it’s Cyprus! A region we don’t know yet, with nature, culture, beach time, and diving the Zenobia 😎 We’re thinking of a 2-week trip.
After flipping through the LP guide, I’m still unsure about the best bases—I can’t quite picture the distances...
Option 1: Stay near Larnaca for 1 week and Paphos for the other. But from Larnaca, Cape Greco is doable. Wouldn’t it be better to stay near Cape Greco (Protaras?) instead? What about getting to Lefkara? Same from Paphos—easy to explore as far as Kourion.
Option 2: A single, more central base somewhere between Limassol and Larnaca.
Thanks for your tips and great deals 😉
I’d like to book tickets for a visit to the Acropolis at the end of April. The official site is down. What do you think of agencies like Get Your Guide? Are they reliable? It’s a lot more expensive. The audio guide option is tempting, but is that reliable too? We’re a bit older and like to take our time...
Do the other museums (National Archaeological Museum and Museum of Cycladic Art) also require reservations? We visited Athens 50 years ago, and it seems like things have changed a lot.
Thanks for any help!
Do the other museums (National Archaeological Museum and Museum of Cycladic Art) also require reservations? We visited Athens 50 years ago, and it seems like things have changed a lot.
Thanks for any help!
hi,
I just booked a flight and hotel (Mövenpick in Durrës) for my husband and me for late May. We’re thinking of spending (I haven’t really decided yet) one day in Tirana, one day around Berat, and one day around Gjirokastër and the Albanian Riviera. We were planning to hire a private driver for the day. I asked the hotel if they could find one for me... they brushed me off! Yet I usually do this for all my trips.
Would you have a name, a company, or someone I could contact?
Otherwise, is it "dangerous"—road conditions and Albanian driving—to rent a car?
Do I need an international driver’s permit?
thanks
I just booked a flight and hotel (Mövenpick in Durrës) for my husband and me for late May. We’re thinking of spending (I haven’t really decided yet) one day in Tirana, one day around Berat, and one day around Gjirokastër and the Albanian Riviera. We were planning to hire a private driver for the day. I asked the hotel if they could find one for me... they brushed me off! Yet I usually do this for all my trips.
Would you have a name, a company, or someone I could contact?
Otherwise, is it "dangerous"—road conditions and Albanian driving—to rent a car?
Do I need an international driver’s permit?
thanks








