46-Day Itinerary in Thailand
by Marien33
Translated into English.
Hi there,
I’ve trimmed down my itinerary plan quite a bit... I need to settle in for several stops and try to find a vehicle to rent by the day so I can explore less touristy spots. Villages, nature, crafts, temples—but no overdose. Well, maybe a little one...
My stops will be: - BANGKOK (between 10 days and 2 weeks, including a multi-day trip to KANCHANABURI and AYUTTHAYA) - CHIANG MAI (two weeks) - PHRAE (4 days, 5 nights) - LOEI (4 days, 5 nights) - PHIMAI (5 days, 6 nights)
Possible side trips of one or two nights if a place is too far from my main stops, but I’d rather not spread myself too thin or switch rooms too often.
Jojoone has been a huge help, and I’m really grateful. I’m also open to any suggestions for my stops...
I’ve booked my nights on booking.com, but if anyone has specific hotels to recommend, I’d love to hear them. Nothing over 1,000 to 1,200 THB per night—I’m all ears...
Thanks so much, everyone.
My stops will be: - BANGKOK (between 10 days and 2 weeks, including a multi-day trip to KANCHANABURI and AYUTTHAYA) - CHIANG MAI (two weeks) - PHRAE (4 days, 5 nights) - LOEI (4 days, 5 nights) - PHIMAI (5 days, 6 nights)
Possible side trips of one or two nights if a place is too far from my main stops, but I’d rather not spread myself too thin or switch rooms too often.
Jojoone has been a huge help, and I’m really grateful. I’m also open to any suggestions for my stops...
I’ve booked my nights on booking.com, but if anyone has specific hotels to recommend, I’d love to hear them. Nothing over 1,000 to 1,200 THB per night—I’m all ears...
Thanks so much, everyone.
Je rencontrai sur mon chemin tant de difficultés
Qu’elles furent toutes surmontées
MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
https://www.telling-india-pictures.com
https://youpic.com/marien
Phrae (4 days, 5 nights)
Phrae is a town with a pleasant center, ideal for a stop of one or two nights—maybe even three if you're really pushing it—but five? Goodness!... In this same area, I’d plan for five nights in Nan instead. Nan: a quiet provincial capital with lots of charm, some beautifully renowned temples, little car traffic, respected bike lanes (and bikes loaned out by the municipality*), very little tourism (except for Thai visitors on weekends, but it stays manageable), accommodations for every budget, and a really lovely province to explore on day trips (preferably by car or scooter since public transport is limited). You can even head up to Thung Chang for a few days to wander through the charming villages nearby. I’ve been to Nan three times—plus another trip to Thung Chang—each time for at least five nights, and I never get tired of it. If I haven’t convinced you to at least consider it by now, then my name isn’t 2-3. * Also available through AirAsia at the airport.
- PHIMAI (5 days, 6 nights)
Another really pleasant small town, but again—six nights?!... Well, it’s still better than staying in the ugly, crowded Khorat.
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Phrae is a town with a pleasant center, ideal for a stop of one or two nights—maybe even three if you're really pushing it—but five? Goodness!... In this same area, I’d plan for five nights in Nan instead. Nan: a quiet provincial capital with lots of charm, some beautifully renowned temples, little car traffic, respected bike lanes (and bikes loaned out by the municipality*), very little tourism (except for Thai visitors on weekends, but it stays manageable), accommodations for every budget, and a really lovely province to explore on day trips (preferably by car or scooter since public transport is limited). You can even head up to Thung Chang for a few days to wander through the charming villages nearby. I’ve been to Nan three times—plus another trip to Thung Chang—each time for at least five nights, and I never get tired of it. If I haven’t convinced you to at least consider it by now, then my name isn’t 2-3. * Also available through AirAsia at the airport.
- PHIMAI (5 days, 6 nights)
Another really pleasant small town, but again—six nights?!... Well, it’s still better than staying in the ugly, crowded Khorat.
2-3
Phrae is a town with a pleasant center, ideal for a stopover of one or two nights—maybe even three at a push—but five? Good heavens!... In this same area, I’d rather plan for five nights in Nan.
Nan: a quiet provincial capital with lots of charm, some beautifully renowned temples, little car traffic, respected bike lanes (and bikes lent by the municipality*), very little tourism (except for Thai visitors on weekends, but it stays manageable), accommodations for all budgets, and a really lovely province to explore on day trips (preferably by car or scooter since public transport is limited). You can even head up to Thung Chang for a few days to wander through the charming villages nearby.
I’ve been to Nan three times—plus another trip to Thung Chang—each time for at least five nights: I never get tired of it. If I haven’t convinced you to at least consider it, then I must not be 2-3 anymore.
Hi again! Thanks so much—I’ll look into all this when I’m fresh and at my own pace. Yeah, I’d heard of Nan before. What you describe sounds *exactly* like what I’m looking for... Here, I’m eating the *naan* bread, and I prefer it "plain" rather than "butter"
- PHIMAI (5 days, 6 nights) Another really pleasant small town, but again: six nights!... Well, it’s still better than staying in the ugly, crowded Khorat.
How old are you, young man? [;]
Hi again! Thanks so much—I’ll look into all this when I’m fresh and at my own pace. Yeah, I’d heard of Nan before. What you describe sounds *exactly* like what I’m looking for... Here, I’m eating the *naan* bread, and I prefer it "plain" rather than "butter"
- PHIMAI (5 days, 6 nights) Another really pleasant small town, but again: six nights!... Well, it’s still better than staying in the ugly, crowded Khorat.
How old are you, young man? [;]
Je rencontrai sur mon chemin tant de difficultés
Qu’elles furent toutes surmontées
MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
https://www.telling-india-pictures.com
https://youpic.com/marien
Yes, I’d heard of naan.
What you describe is exactly what I’m looking for...
Here, I eat naan and prefer it "plain" rather than "butter"
Hello,
I totally agree +++ about naan—you can even add a pinch of salt that seems unchanged since its origins...
As for Indian naan, I’m 2000% "garlic", an absolute killer...😉
I’d love to get lost in India again...
By the way, a little aside about this part of the world—I wandered around your site a bit. I saw some beautiful photos that took me back to the "old days" when I still had some talent for those things.
I’ll definitely go back as soon as the opportunity arises.
Best regards,
Partirdeloin
Hello,
I totally agree +++ about naan—you can even add a pinch of salt that seems unchanged since its origins...
As for Indian naan, I’m 2000% "garlic", an absolute killer...😉
I’d love to get lost in India again...
By the way, a little aside about this part of the world—I wandered around your site a bit. I saw some beautiful photos that took me back to the "old days" when I still had some talent for those things.
I’ll definitely go back as soon as the opportunity arises.
Best regards,
Partirdeloin
I totally agree +++ about Nan—you could add a salt mine that seems unchanged since its origins...
Thanks so much, I’ll check it out tomorrow, but I’m already sold!
I wandered around your site a bit. Saw some really beautiful photos that took me back to the "good old days" when I still had some talent for those things.
Thanks a bunch!
I’ll definitely go back as soon as the opportunity arises.
To India or... my site? 😉
Thanks so much, I’ll check it out tomorrow, but I’m already sold!
I wandered around your site a bit. Saw some really beautiful photos that took me back to the "good old days" when I still had some talent for those things.
Thanks a bunch!
I’ll definitely go back as soon as the opportunity arises.
To India or... my site? 😉
Je rencontrai sur mon chemin tant de difficultés
Qu’elles furent toutes surmontées
MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
https://www.telling-india-pictures.com
https://youpic.com/marien
Thank you so much
You're welcome... 🙂
In India or... on my site? 😉
Obviously both, captain. 🙂🙂
Best regards.
Partirdeloin
You're welcome... 🙂
In India or... on my site? 😉
Obviously both, captain. 🙂🙂
Best regards.
Partirdeloin
Folks know what they're talking about.
Honestly, if I were you, I’d shave off 2 days from Phimai to spend them at Khao Yai National Park—plus, it’s on the way from Bangkok.
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
Hello and a huge thank you to Joël, Thierry, and "Partirdeloin". You’ve (con)vinced me.
I was completely charmed by Nan and its region. It’s exactly what I was looking for to settle in and explore at my own pace. So, I’ve decided to spend a week there—6 days/7 nights—from February 17th to 23rd. But Phrae still seems really interesting, so I’m planning 2 days/3 nights there, from February 24th to 26th.
However, since my return flight is on March 6th, I need to shorten the next stays in Loei: 3 days/4 nights from February 27th to March 2nd. Then, only 2 days in Phimai on the 4th and 5th of March. And even then, the 5th won’t be a full day since I’ll leave in the evening to stay in Bangkok as a precaution—my flight is late morning on the 6th.
And, just to have peace of mind—both mentally and physically—I’m wondering if it wouldn’t be better to skip Phimai entirely, add an extra day in Loei, and head straight to Bangkok on the 4th to spend 24 hours there before my flight. I’m always super stressed the day before a departure—worried about missing the plane for one reason or another… the luggage… the weight limit… But this time, I’d like to try traveling as light as possible.
Actually, if I listened to myself, I’d simplify it to: 2 weeks in Bangkok, 2 weeks in Chiang Mai, and 2 weeks in Nan. And that’s it! The rest can wait for another trip next year…
Je rencontrai sur mon chemin tant de difficultés
Qu’elles furent toutes surmontées
MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
https://www.telling-india-pictures.com
https://youpic.com/marien
Actually, it's great to browse through guides and ask for advice from lots of people on a travel forum. But everyone gives their own glowing description that makes you want to see everything...
I feel like a kid in front of a pastry buffet. You want to try it all, even if it makes you sick afterward... Isn’t it better to enjoy 2 or 3 big slices of cake—and really savor and digest them?
Je rencontrai sur mon chemin tant de difficultés
Qu’elles furent toutes surmontées
MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
https://www.telling-india-pictures.com
https://youpic.com/marien
Loei
Usually, people stop in Loei to visit the national parks around the city. Is that what you're planning to do there? If not, why?
Another thing: you seem to enjoy quiet spots, and you’ll have time, but I don’t see any short stays in some remote village in the middle of nowhere on your itinerary—places on isolated roads, small villages with nothing special to see, where life wakes up to the rhythm of the morning/evening market and the kids coming home from school. Places you visit just to "get a feel" for rural life, or maybe to watch life on the river if there is one... Two examples: Highway 105 between Mae Sot and Mae Sariang (mostly along the Moei River) and Highway 211 between Chiang Khan and Nong Khai (along the Mekong). I’ve traveled these "end-of-the-world" roads several times (they still have accommodations and some public transport). I’ve written about them in detail (practical info, trying to inspire, photos) but on another forum. If you’re interested (or anyone else), I can send you the links via PM* on request since I’m not sure if I’m allowed to post links to another forum here publicly.
* If I figure out how to send them.
2-3
Usually, people stop in Loei to visit the national parks around the city. Is that what you're planning to do there? If not, why?
Another thing: you seem to enjoy quiet spots, and you’ll have time, but I don’t see any short stays in some remote village in the middle of nowhere on your itinerary—places on isolated roads, small villages with nothing special to see, where life wakes up to the rhythm of the morning/evening market and the kids coming home from school. Places you visit just to "get a feel" for rural life, or maybe to watch life on the river if there is one... Two examples: Highway 105 between Mae Sot and Mae Sariang (mostly along the Moei River) and Highway 211 between Chiang Khan and Nong Khai (along the Mekong). I’ve traveled these "end-of-the-world" roads several times (they still have accommodations and some public transport). I’ve written about them in detail (practical info, trying to inspire, photos) but on another forum. If you’re interested (or anyone else), I can send you the links via PM* on request since I’m not sure if I’m allowed to post links to another forum here publicly.
* If I figure out how to send them.
2-3
And, even to have peace of mind—and body—without stress, I wonder if it wouldn’t be better to skip the stop in Phimai altogether, add an extra day in Loei, and head straight to Bangkok on the 4th to spend 24 hours there before my flight. I’m always really stressed the day before a departure. Afraid of missing the plane for one reason or another...
To avoid the risk of a last-minute delay due to traffic jams, I recommend booking your final night at The Cottage Suvarnabhumi Hotel. Sometimes you can get it for less than 20 €, occasionally with breakfast included.
They have a minivan shuttle that takes you to the airport in 5 minutes, the beds are comfortable, the Thai breakfast is delicious, and there’s even a nice little pool. Just across the alley, almost opposite, there’s a pleasant and decent little restaurant. If you exit the alley on the right and turn right onto the avenue, you’ll find a shopping center about 300 meters away, which often has a night market in the evening. Great tip.
To avoid the risk of a last-minute delay due to traffic jams, I recommend booking your final night at The Cottage Suvarnabhumi Hotel. Sometimes you can get it for less than 20 €, occasionally with breakfast included.
They have a minivan shuttle that takes you to the airport in 5 minutes, the beds are comfortable, the Thai breakfast is delicious, and there’s even a nice little pool. Just across the alley, almost opposite, there’s a pleasant and decent little restaurant. If you exit the alley on the right and turn right onto the avenue, you’ll find a shopping center about 300 meters away, which often has a night market in the evening. Great tip.
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
Actually, it's great to browse through guides and ask for advice from lots of people on a travel forum. But everyone gives their own glowing description that makes you want to see everything...
I feel like a kid in front of a pastry buffet. You want to try everything, even if it makes you sick afterward... Wouldn't it be better to enjoy 2 or 3 big slices of cake—and really savor and digest them?
It's up to you to make the decision, which will depend on whether you might come back one day to see the rest. Take a moment, look deep inside, and cut the Gordian knot ;)
It's up to you to make the decision, which will depend on whether you might come back one day to see the rest. Take a moment, look deep inside, and cut the Gordian knot ;)
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
... Route 211 between Chiang Khan and Nong Khai... I talked about it at length (practical info, trying to inspire, photos) but in another forum. If you're interested (you or anyone else), I can send you the links via PM* on request since I don’t know if I’m allowed to post links to another forum here publicly.
* if I figure out how to send them.
Hi there,
For Route 211, you might just attract the wrath of a "prominent" member who already lashed out on page 2 when I dared to suggest this route, which, according to their absolute truth, has absolutely no interest...
Otherwise, I thought I recognized the style of a certain T....g from the place you mentioned—was I right? That said, I left that forum a long time ago since it’s a den of all kinds of parasites 😕😛
As for PMs, you need to click on the username and in the dropdown menu choose "send a PM."
To check your PMs, go to the account tab, and in the dropdown menu choose "my PMs."
Best regards,
Partirdeloin
* if I figure out how to send them.
Hi there,
For Route 211, you might just attract the wrath of a "prominent" member who already lashed out on page 2 when I dared to suggest this route, which, according to their absolute truth, has absolutely no interest...
Otherwise, I thought I recognized the style of a certain T....g from the place you mentioned—was I right? That said, I left that forum a long time ago since it’s a den of all kinds of parasites 😕😛
As for PMs, you need to click on the username and in the dropdown menu choose "send a PM."
To check your PMs, go to the account tab, and in the dropdown menu choose "my PMs."
Best regards,
Partirdeloin
The great tip.
Hi there,
I’ll take advantage of it if I can, but I’ll admit that at nearly 20 € it stings a bit—though there *is* a pool!!! 😉
Bangkok is still a very well-connected city. Sure, you have to expect some hiccups like anywhere else, but you’ve got to keep things in perspective and not spiral into paranoia.
For one of my upcoming trips from Don Mueang, I chose to stay a 5-minute walk away, but I’ve got to be at the airport by 5 AM...
Best,
Partirdeloin
Hi there,
I’ll take advantage of it if I can, but I’ll admit that at nearly 20 € it stings a bit—though there *is* a pool!!! 😉
Bangkok is still a very well-connected city. Sure, you have to expect some hiccups like anywhere else, but you’ve got to keep things in perspective and not spiral into paranoia.
For one of my upcoming trips from Don Mueang, I chose to stay a 5-minute walk away, but I’ve got to be at the airport by 5 AM...
Best,
Partirdeloin
Hey, wanna teach me the Gordian knot? 😄😄😄😛
All good! I’m -> 😉
Partirdeloin
All good! I’m -> 😉
Partirdeloin
Grab your sword and I'll explain 😉
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
Usually, people go to Loei to visit the national parks around the city. Is that what you're planning to do? If not, what’s the reason?
Just because I’d read on travel blogs that it’s a region less frequented by tourists, with one of the most beautiful Thai craft centers... and that the area is really stunning.
Another topic: you seem to enjoy quiet spots, you’ll have time, but nowhere in your itinerary do I see little stays in some remote village in the middle of nowhere, on isolated roads, small villages where there’s nothing special to see, that wake up to the rhythm of the morning/evening market and the kids coming home from school—places you visit just to "get a feel for" rural life, or even observe life on the river when there is one...
That’s exactly what I’m looking for, kind of like what I experience here in India. But since I’ve never set foot in Thailand, I obviously don’t know about those kinds of places... And they’re not mentioned in guidebooks... I should explain: I *have* to leave India every 90 days, even if just for 24 hours. Usually, I’d spend a few days in Nepal or Sri Lanka. Last year, I went to Bali. This year, I decided to go to Thailand. But since I’m going, I might as well stay a month or more to explore the country. Because with everything happening in India right now—at least on a personal level—I’m looking for another planet. A country that will welcome me for six to eight months a year without all sorts of administrative hassles, but not year-round. I don’t want to expatriate. Thailand seems to fit exactly what I’m looking for. And I planned to use this trip to discover the country.
2 examples: Route 105 between Mae Sot and Mae Sariang (mostly along the Moei River) and Route 211 between Chiang Khan and Nong Khai (along the Mekong). I’ve traveled these "end-of-the-world" roads several times (but they do offer accommodations and some public transport). I’ve written about them in detail (practical info, trying to inspire, photos) but on another forum. If you’re interested (you or anyone else), I can send you the links via PM* on request since I’m not sure if I’m allowed to post links to another forum here publicly.
Yes, I’d love it if you sent me the links... Thanks a lot!
Just because I’d read on travel blogs that it’s a region less frequented by tourists, with one of the most beautiful Thai craft centers... and that the area is really stunning.
Another topic: you seem to enjoy quiet spots, you’ll have time, but nowhere in your itinerary do I see little stays in some remote village in the middle of nowhere, on isolated roads, small villages where there’s nothing special to see, that wake up to the rhythm of the morning/evening market and the kids coming home from school—places you visit just to "get a feel for" rural life, or even observe life on the river when there is one...
That’s exactly what I’m looking for, kind of like what I experience here in India. But since I’ve never set foot in Thailand, I obviously don’t know about those kinds of places... And they’re not mentioned in guidebooks... I should explain: I *have* to leave India every 90 days, even if just for 24 hours. Usually, I’d spend a few days in Nepal or Sri Lanka. Last year, I went to Bali. This year, I decided to go to Thailand. But since I’m going, I might as well stay a month or more to explore the country. Because with everything happening in India right now—at least on a personal level—I’m looking for another planet. A country that will welcome me for six to eight months a year without all sorts of administrative hassles, but not year-round. I don’t want to expatriate. Thailand seems to fit exactly what I’m looking for. And I planned to use this trip to discover the country.
2 examples: Route 105 between Mae Sot and Mae Sariang (mostly along the Moei River) and Route 211 between Chiang Khan and Nong Khai (along the Mekong). I’ve traveled these "end-of-the-world" roads several times (but they do offer accommodations and some public transport). I’ve written about them in detail (practical info, trying to inspire, photos) but on another forum. If you’re interested (you or anyone else), I can send you the links via PM* on request since I’m not sure if I’m allowed to post links to another forum here publicly.
Yes, I’d love it if you sent me the links... Thanks a lot!
Je rencontrai sur mon chemin tant de difficultés
Qu’elles furent toutes surmontées
MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
https://www.telling-india-pictures.com
https://youpic.com/marien
And, even to have a peaceful mind—and body—and avoid stress, I’m wondering if it might be better to skip the stop in Phimai altogether, add an extra day in Loei, and head straight to Bangkok on the 4th to spend 24 hours there before my flight. I always get really stressed the day before a departure—afraid of missing the plane for one reason or another...
To avoid the risk of a last-minute delay due to traffic jams, I’d recommend booking your last night at: The Cottage Suvarnabhumi Hotel. Sometimes you can get it for under 20 €, occasionally with breakfast included.
They have a minivan shuttle that takes you to the airport in 5 minutes, the beds are comfy, the Thai breakfast is delicious, and there’s even a nice little pool. Just across the alley, almost opposite, there’s a cozy and decent little restaurant. If you exit the alley on the right and turn right onto the avenue, you’ll find a shopping mall about 300 meters away, which often has a night market in the evening. Great tip.
Oh! Thanks again, Joel—huge thanks for this *extremely* important tip for someone like me who’s always terrified of missing a flight. It almost happened to me several times during my many trips to India, and it’s just too stressful. By the way, what’s a Thai breakfast like—anything different from the usual?
To avoid the risk of a last-minute delay due to traffic jams, I’d recommend booking your last night at: The Cottage Suvarnabhumi Hotel. Sometimes you can get it for under 20 €, occasionally with breakfast included.
They have a minivan shuttle that takes you to the airport in 5 minutes, the beds are comfy, the Thai breakfast is delicious, and there’s even a nice little pool. Just across the alley, almost opposite, there’s a cozy and decent little restaurant. If you exit the alley on the right and turn right onto the avenue, you’ll find a shopping mall about 300 meters away, which often has a night market in the evening. Great tip.
Oh! Thanks again, Joel—huge thanks for this *extremely* important tip for someone like me who’s always terrified of missing a flight. It almost happened to me several times during my many trips to India, and it’s just too stressful. By the way, what’s a Thai breakfast like—anything different from the usual?
Je rencontrai sur mon chemin tant de difficultés
Qu’elles furent toutes surmontées
MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
https://www.telling-india-pictures.com
https://youpic.com/marien
It’s the same as what you’d find for lunch. A whole assortment of hot dishes. I remember some delicious-crunchy veggies with an amazing little sauce. Bottom line, you won’t leave hungry!
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
It's the same as what you find for lunch. A whole assortment of hot dishes. I remember some delicious-crunchy veggies with an excellent little sauce. In short, you don't leave hungry!
I suspected as much, it's like in India. But I wanted confirmation. I love this kind of breakfast. Though in my family, it took them years to understand that grilled dried sardines in sauce at 8 AM was just a no-go for me... Nowadays, my sweet/savory breakfast has turned into a brunch around 11 AM. Just one meal a day. A snack around 4/5 PM and no dinner. I hope I can keep up with my eating habits. And lots and lots of tea (over a liter) between 5 AM and 11 AM. But when I'm not at home or with family, it's not easy to stick to this routine...
I suspected as much, it's like in India. But I wanted confirmation. I love this kind of breakfast. Though in my family, it took them years to understand that grilled dried sardines in sauce at 8 AM was just a no-go for me... Nowadays, my sweet/savory breakfast has turned into a brunch around 11 AM. Just one meal a day. A snack around 4/5 PM and no dinner. I hope I can keep up with my eating habits. And lots and lots of tea (over a liter) between 5 AM and 11 AM. But when I'm not at home or with family, it's not easy to stick to this routine...
Je rencontrai sur mon chemin tant de difficultés
Qu’elles furent toutes surmontées
MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
https://www.telling-india-pictures.com
https://youpic.com/marien
Side question since we're on the topic... If I leave my room around 6 AM, is that a problem? I love wandering the streets at sunrise... But I *need* tea, tea, tea... Can you find any at that early hour?
Je rencontrai sur mon chemin tant de difficultés
Qu’elles furent toutes surmontées
MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
https://www.telling-india-pictures.com
https://youpic.com/marien
I can confirm it’s absolutely massive first thing in the morning...
A little memory from my first Thai wedding (as a guest), which started at the crack of dawn.
My friend had booked me a room in the hotel that also served as the venue for the ceremony and reception, with an all-you-can-eat buffet starting at breakfast.
My taste buds still remember it... 😉
Partirdeloin
A little memory from my first Thai wedding (as a guest), which started at the crack of dawn.
My friend had booked me a room in the hotel that also served as the venue for the ceremony and reception, with an all-you-can-eat buffet starting at breakfast.
My taste buds still remember it... 😉
Partirdeloin
Hope this never happens to us—I can’t stand small talk and social gatherings.
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
If I leave my room around 6 AM, is that a problem?
No, as long as it’s not dark AND you’re not in an isolated area (city or countryside). You’ll get to see monks lining up one by one to collect alms (it probably has another name...). It’s also usually when the morning markets start (5–6 AM) and they last until 8–9 AM. Sometimes you’ll see small groups doing Tai Chi—feel free to join them (FYI, "chi" means inhale and "ou" exhale; it’s Chinese, not Thai).
But I need tea, tea, tea... Can I find some this early in the morning?
No, Thais aren’t big on "hot tea." Occasionally, you’ll find street vendors selling coffee/tea/"Ovaltine" (milk chocolate diluted with water) and made-to-order toast, but it’s rare. On the other hand, iced tea is no problem—you’ll find it almost everywhere (street food stalls, food centers, malls...). It’s pretty sweet, made from strong pre-brewed tea, and they add a lot of crushed ice and milk when you order. In that case, it’s called "cha yen" (cold tea). Without milk, it’s "cha dam yen" (black iced tea). Prices range from 12 to 25 baht for a large glass. Ironically, the pricier ones are often the worst.
No, as long as it’s not dark AND you’re not in an isolated area (city or countryside). You’ll get to see monks lining up one by one to collect alms (it probably has another name...). It’s also usually when the morning markets start (5–6 AM) and they last until 8–9 AM. Sometimes you’ll see small groups doing Tai Chi—feel free to join them (FYI, "chi" means inhale and "ou" exhale; it’s Chinese, not Thai).
But I need tea, tea, tea... Can I find some this early in the morning?
No, Thais aren’t big on "hot tea." Occasionally, you’ll find street vendors selling coffee/tea/"Ovaltine" (milk chocolate diluted with water) and made-to-order toast, but it’s rare. On the other hand, iced tea is no problem—you’ll find it almost everywhere (street food stalls, food centers, malls...). It’s pretty sweet, made from strong pre-brewed tea, and they add a lot of crushed ice and milk when you order. In that case, it’s called "cha yen" (cold tea). Without milk, it’s "cha dam yen" (black iced tea). Prices range from 12 to 25 baht for a large glass. Ironically, the pricier ones are often the worst.
But I really need tea, tea, tea... Can you find any at this early hour?
No, Thais aren't "hot tea" people. Sometimes in the morning you'll find street vendors selling coffee/tea/"Ovaltine" (milk chocolate diluted with water) and made-to-order toast, but it's rare. On the other hand, iced tea is no problem—you can find it almost everywhere (street food stalls, food centers, malls...). It's pretty sweet, made from strong pre-brewed tea, and they add a lot of crushed ice and milk when you order. In that case, it's called "cha yen" (cold tea). Without milk, it's "cha dam yen" (cold black tea). Depending on the place, it costs between 12 to 25 baht for a large glass. Paradoxically, the pricier ones are often the worst.
Oh no, that’s not gonna work for me at all! I’m not about to pack tea in my luggage! And I’d still need a kettle in the room... As a backup, is black coffee (no sugar) an option?
No, Thais aren't "hot tea" people. Sometimes in the morning you'll find street vendors selling coffee/tea/"Ovaltine" (milk chocolate diluted with water) and made-to-order toast, but it's rare. On the other hand, iced tea is no problem—you can find it almost everywhere (street food stalls, food centers, malls...). It's pretty sweet, made from strong pre-brewed tea, and they add a lot of crushed ice and milk when you order. In that case, it's called "cha yen" (cold tea). Without milk, it's "cha dam yen" (cold black tea). Depending on the place, it costs between 12 to 25 baht for a large glass. Paradoxically, the pricier ones are often the worst.
Oh no, that’s not gonna work for me at all! I’m not about to pack tea in my luggage! And I’d still need a kettle in the room... As a backup, is black coffee (no sugar) an option?
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Loei
Usually, people stop in Loei to visit the national parks around the city. Is that what you're planning to do there? If not, why?
Another thing: you seem to like quiet spots, you'll have time, but nowhere in your itinerary do I see short stays in some remote village in the middle of nowhere, on isolated roads, little villages where there's nothing special to see, that wake up to the rhythm of the morning/evening market and the kids coming home from school, where you just go to "get a feel" for rural life, or even observe life on the river when there is one... Two examples: route 105 between Mae Sot and Mae Sariang (mostly along the Moei River) and route 211 between Chiang Khan and Nong Khai (along the Mekong). I've traveled these "ends of the earth" routes several times (but they do offer accommodations and some public transport). I've written about them at length (practical info, trying to inspire, photos) but on another forum. If you're interested (you or anyone else), I can send you the links via PM* on request since I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post links to another forum here publicly.
* if I figure out how to send them.
2-3
Hi Thierry, Okay, I've looked into all that. I had trouble locating these villages and roads because I don't have any maps here in India, and the maps in my guidebooks don’t mention them. And for good reason—they don’t talk about them. I read your descriptions, though. These are exactly the kinds of places I like and would want to visit. But I shouldn’t be reckless and venture there on my FIRST trip to Thailand, not speaking a word of Thai, and especially since I’m no longer 20, 40, or even 50. I’ve always been adventurous in my travels and in life, and I still am, forgetting that sometimes my body can’t keep up with my still-sharp mind. I’m a total newbie in Thailand. So I’ll stick to what I said earlier: three two-week stages. And I’ll improvise on the spot to explore the surrounding areas. I like to wander, dawdle, take photos, watch people, etc... For example, when people say it takes an hour or two to visit a temple, palace, or fortress, or a spot in nature, I spend 4 hours there—sometimes even a whole day... The key is finding a car and driver at a rate that works for me. Otherwise, buses and songthaews... And nothing’s set in stone—it’ll depend on the circumstances... The complete opposite of how I used to travel... We’ll see on a second trip, when I’m less clueless... Thanks again to everyone who’s helped me, and I might not be done asking questions.
Usually, people stop in Loei to visit the national parks around the city. Is that what you're planning to do there? If not, why?
Another thing: you seem to like quiet spots, you'll have time, but nowhere in your itinerary do I see short stays in some remote village in the middle of nowhere, on isolated roads, little villages where there's nothing special to see, that wake up to the rhythm of the morning/evening market and the kids coming home from school, where you just go to "get a feel" for rural life, or even observe life on the river when there is one... Two examples: route 105 between Mae Sot and Mae Sariang (mostly along the Moei River) and route 211 between Chiang Khan and Nong Khai (along the Mekong). I've traveled these "ends of the earth" routes several times (but they do offer accommodations and some public transport). I've written about them at length (practical info, trying to inspire, photos) but on another forum. If you're interested (you or anyone else), I can send you the links via PM* on request since I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post links to another forum here publicly.
* if I figure out how to send them.
2-3
Hi Thierry, Okay, I've looked into all that. I had trouble locating these villages and roads because I don't have any maps here in India, and the maps in my guidebooks don’t mention them. And for good reason—they don’t talk about them. I read your descriptions, though. These are exactly the kinds of places I like and would want to visit. But I shouldn’t be reckless and venture there on my FIRST trip to Thailand, not speaking a word of Thai, and especially since I’m no longer 20, 40, or even 50. I’ve always been adventurous in my travels and in life, and I still am, forgetting that sometimes my body can’t keep up with my still-sharp mind. I’m a total newbie in Thailand. So I’ll stick to what I said earlier: three two-week stages. And I’ll improvise on the spot to explore the surrounding areas. I like to wander, dawdle, take photos, watch people, etc... For example, when people say it takes an hour or two to visit a temple, palace, or fortress, or a spot in nature, I spend 4 hours there—sometimes even a whole day... The key is finding a car and driver at a rate that works for me. Otherwise, buses and songthaews... And nothing’s set in stone—it’ll depend on the circumstances... The complete opposite of how I used to travel... We’ll see on a second trip, when I’m less clueless... Thanks again to everyone who’s helped me, and I might not be done asking questions.
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You were given a great tip, and you're right not to use it now—good call saving it for your next trip.
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You were given a great tip, and you're right not to take it—and you're right to set it aside for your next trip.
You crack me up. You please everyone. A great tip, but... You're right not to take it... You’d make a good politician, you 😉
You crack me up. You please everyone. A great tip, but... You're right not to take it... You’d make a good politician, you 😉
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No no, this time you can really take my message at face value! 😇 🙂
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Can you confirm I’ll be "deprived" of tea in Thailand?
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I only drink tea when the coffee is bad.
I had some in Thailand.
(Black, no sugar)
After that, I’m way less picky about tea than I am about coffee.
As long as it’s black tea—Darjeeling or Earl Grey—that’s fine.
It can get tricky to find black tea sometimes because servers try to palm off some weak herbal brew instead of actual tea when they mix up tisanes and tea...
After that, I’m way less picky about tea than I am about coffee.
As long as it’s black tea—Darjeeling or Earl Grey—that’s fine.
It can get tricky to find black tea sometimes because servers try to palm off some weak herbal brew instead of actual tea when they mix up tisanes and tea...
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Hi,
That just won’t work for me at all! I’m certainly not going to carry tea in my luggage! And you’d still need a kettle in the room... As an alternative, is black coffee (no sugar) possible?
In some guesthouses/hotels—sometimes even when breakfast isn’t included—you’ll find a table near reception with a kettle, Lipton Yellow tea bags, instant coffee, Ovaltine plus milk and powdered sugar, and sometimes jam, small industrial pastries under cellophane, and bananas, all on a "help yourself" basis.
Something "important" I forgot to mention in my previous reply about leaving at 6 AM: many guesthouses are locked at night and only reopen around 6–7 AM. Before then, there’s no one at reception, or at best a "guard" snoozing on a bench. In that case, you’re stuck waiting for opening time or risk waking the guard. If you’re checking out for good, let the owner know the day before so they can settle your bill and arrange for the door to be unlocked earlier.
I looked into all that. I had trouble locating these villages and roads because I don’t have any maps here
https://www.thailand-ticket.de/Chiang-Mai-Hotel-Buchen/north-thailand-map.htm https://www.thailand-ticket.de/Chiang-Mai-Hotel-Buchen/north-thailand-map.htm
That just won’t work for me at all! I’m certainly not going to carry tea in my luggage! And you’d still need a kettle in the room... As an alternative, is black coffee (no sugar) possible?
In some guesthouses/hotels—sometimes even when breakfast isn’t included—you’ll find a table near reception with a kettle, Lipton Yellow tea bags, instant coffee, Ovaltine plus milk and powdered sugar, and sometimes jam, small industrial pastries under cellophane, and bananas, all on a "help yourself" basis.
Something "important" I forgot to mention in my previous reply about leaving at 6 AM: many guesthouses are locked at night and only reopen around 6–7 AM. Before then, there’s no one at reception, or at best a "guard" snoozing on a bench. In that case, you’re stuck waiting for opening time or risk waking the guard. If you’re checking out for good, let the owner know the day before so they can settle your bill and arrange for the door to be unlocked earlier.
I looked into all that. I had trouble locating these villages and roads because I don’t have any maps here
https://www.thailand-ticket.de/Chiang-Mai-Hotel-Buchen/north-thailand-map.htm https://www.thailand-ticket.de/Chiang-Mai-Hotel-Buchen/north-thailand-map.htm
You’re confirming I’ll be "deprived" of tea in Thailand?
Hi there,
I’m really curious who put that idea in your head...
Tea is super easy to find in Thailand—some hotels even provide it in the rooms, which often have kettles too.
If they don’t, you can definitely ask at reception.
And you can also grab some at any of the 7/11s that are everywhere in Thailand...
Best,
Partirdeloin
Hi there,
I’m really curious who put that idea in your head...
Tea is super easy to find in Thailand—some hotels even provide it in the rooms, which often have kettles too.
If they don’t, you can definitely ask at reception.
And you can also grab some at any of the 7/11s that are everywhere in Thailand...
Best,
Partirdeloin
You’ll already get to enjoy some curry—and super spicy at that—so don’t go bothering us with all your other demands 😛
Small and large shops offering hot or iced coffee have multiplied dramatically across the country in recent years. It seems like Thais really appreciate that little energy boost. That’s how things have evolved here.
Small and large shops offering hot or iced coffee have multiplied dramatically across the country in recent years. It seems like Thais really appreciate that little energy boost. That’s how things have evolved here.
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Hey there,
I beat you to it on this one... 😄😏😉
Best,
Partirdeloin
I beat you to it on this one... 😄😏😉
Best,
Partirdeloin
No no, this time you can really take my message at face value! 😇 🙂
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I only drink tea when the coffee is bad.
I had some in Thailand.
(Black, no sugar)
After that, I’m way less picky about tea than I am about coffee.
As long as it’s black tea, Darjeeling, or Earl Grey, it’s fine.
Sometimes it gets hard to find black tea because servers try to palm off "grandma’s pee" instead of tea when they mix up herbal infusions and tea...
Okay. I love "grandma’s pee"—I’d never heard that expression before. I used to say "cat’s pee" for tea or "sock juice" for coffee 😏😏😏
After that, I’m way less picky about tea than I am about coffee.
As long as it’s black tea, Darjeeling, or Earl Grey, it’s fine.
Sometimes it gets hard to find black tea because servers try to palm off "grandma’s pee" instead of tea when they mix up herbal infusions and tea...
Okay. I love "grandma’s pee"—I’d never heard that expression before. I used to say "cat’s pee" for tea or "sock juice" for coffee 😏😏😏
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In some guesthouses/hotels, even when breakfast isn't included, you’ll often find a table near reception with a kettle, Lipton Yellow tea bags, instant coffee, Ovaltine + milk and powdered sugar, plus sometimes jam, small industrial pastries under cellophane, and bananas—all on a "help yourself" basis.
Fair enough, so I’ll bring my own tea. It’s not heavy. The main thing is the kettle. I’m pretty picky about tea, like others are about coffee (😉Attila). I’ve got at least 15 types of Indian tea, including 3 Assams and 8 or 10 Darjeelings .
Something "important" I forgot to mention in my previous reply about leaving at 6 AM: many guesthouses lock up at night and don’t reopen until around 6–7 AM. Before then, there’s no one at reception—or at best, a "guard" snoozing on a bench. In that case, you’re stuck waiting for them to open or risk waking the guard.
Yep, that’s a key detail for early risers and early departures. Oh well, I’ll adapt...
https://www.thailand-ticket.de/Chiang-Mai-Hotel-Buchen/north-thailand-map.htmhttps://www.thailand-ticket.de/Chiang-Mai-Hotel-Buchen/north-thailand-map.htm
Huge thanks for the maps—that’s really kind of you! You stand by your ideas, and that’s great. Well done! !
Fair enough, so I’ll bring my own tea. It’s not heavy. The main thing is the kettle. I’m pretty picky about tea, like others are about coffee (😉Attila). I’ve got at least 15 types of Indian tea, including 3 Assams and 8 or 10 Darjeelings .
Something "important" I forgot to mention in my previous reply about leaving at 6 AM: many guesthouses lock up at night and don’t reopen until around 6–7 AM. Before then, there’s no one at reception—or at best, a "guard" snoozing on a bench. In that case, you’re stuck waiting for them to open or risk waking the guard.
Yep, that’s a key detail for early risers and early departures. Oh well, I’ll adapt...
https://www.thailand-ticket.de/Chiang-Mai-Hotel-Buchen/north-thailand-map.htmhttps://www.thailand-ticket.de/Chiang-Mai-Hotel-Buchen/north-thailand-map.htm
Huge thanks for the maps—that’s really kind of you! You stand by your ideas, and that’s great. Well done! !
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You’ll already get to enjoy curry—and super spicy at that—so you won’t be bothering us with your many other demands :P
What’s a "demand" anyway? Especially "many" of them. I’ll have to check the *Robert*... ;) And a necessity—more of a medical one—what’s that? But I won’t go into my life story here. It’s enough that I’m sharing it elsewhere... I know people for whom a pool in a hotel is non-negotiable. Would that be a demand or a necessity?
What’s a "demand" anyway? Especially "many" of them. I’ll have to check the *Robert*... ;) And a necessity—more of a medical one—what’s that? But I won’t go into my life story here. It’s enough that I’m sharing it elsewhere... I know people for whom a pool in a hotel is non-negotiable. Would that be a demand or a necessity?
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I know some people for whom having a pool in a hotel is non-negotiable. Is it a demand or a necessity?
Who on earth are these strange people? 😎
Who on earth are these strange people? 😎
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I know some people for whom having a pool in a hotel is non-negotiable. Is it a demand or a necessity?
Who on earth are these strange people? 😎
😇[;)
Who on earth are these strange people? 😎
😇[;)
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Instead of everyone making me feel bad, how about we get back to the main topic? I’ve lost track.
Jean-Marie just shared a new draft itinerary—should we wait a bit or what?
Jean-Marie just shared a new draft itinerary—should we wait a bit or what?
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Jean-Marie suggests a new provisional route—should we wait a bit?
We’ll wait a bit... But for now, I’m sticking with the last option... Unless you tell me it’s completely nuts...
We’ll wait a bit... But for now, I’m sticking with the last option... Unless you tell me it’s completely nuts...
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I’m assuming you’ll want to come back and that your current option is the right one.
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I’m assuming you’ll want to come back and that your current option is the right one.
Thanks for your input
Thanks for your input
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I’m pretty picky about tea, like others are about coffee
Yeah, I don’t see why we’d ruin a trip when all it takes is bringing a pack of tea or coffee!
Kids bring their comfort blankets without anyone batting an eye!
Yeah, I don’t see why we’d ruin a trip when all it takes is bringing a pack of tea or coffee!
Kids bring their comfort blankets without anyone batting an eye!
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But would just one kilo of tea be enough for a heavy consumer like Marien33? https://en.fda.moph.go.th/guideline-of-importation-for-personal-use/bringing-of-health-products-into-the-kingdom-of-thailand-01
1 cup = 4 grams
so
1 kilo = 250 cups
so
250 cups in 46 days = 5 cups a day and a bit extra!
Perfect, that's the limit recommended by doctors. 😛
(Who knows, maybe the trip is 46 days *because* of that! 47 days and you'd be short, 45 and it'd be an overdose. 😮😄)
Perfect, that's the limit recommended by doctors. 😛
(Who knows, maybe the trip is 46 days *because* of that! 47 days and you'd be short, 45 and it'd be an overdose. 😮😄)
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Watch out for bladder issues, especially while traveling. We won’t go into details on this topic.
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- Is the road network more developed now? Back then, there was only National Route 1 from south to north. I’m thinking of renting a car this time (no motorbike with the family—though in ’96, they had a Jawa sidecar for sale, and we hesitated… maybe it’s for the best).
- Is Halong Bay really something to avoid because of overtourism? Even back then, it was pretty crowded. Is there a less touristy alternative?
- We’ll be traveling from Hanoi down to Danang (the only city we didn’t stop in back in ’96). Even though it’s a bit overhyped in a Chinese-tourist kind of way (from what I’ve read), we’re only going for the beach—pure relaxation for 7 days. The beaches are stunning, and I know the South China Sea is warm like coffee.
- Then, we’ll visit Hoi An, where I stopped in ’96. It was already popular with backpackers back then, but no glowing boats or all the touristy fuss!
- After that, Hue, where I have great memories—it’s a beautiful city.
- And also the nature around Ninh Binh, followed by 2-3 days in Hanoi.
That’s the plan. I’d love to hear any tips to avoid mass tourism, and if anyone’s done this before: - Is it possible to rent a car in Danang and drop it off in Hanoi?
Thanks, and long live the Nam! !
Hey everyone,
I’m over in East Borneo in mid-July.
I’m struggling to wrap up the end of my itinerary, even though it’s pretty straightforward (long but simple).
Last year, we did Malaysia (KL and the mainland + around Kuching).
Day 1 – Arrive in Kota Kinabalu early, stroll around town and hit the must-sees. Day 2 – Excursion to Tunku Abdul Rahman Park, snorkeling at 3 islands. Day 3 – Hike around Mount Kinabalu without summiting (450 per person, no way). Day 4 – Poring Hot Springs + evening flight to Sandakan. Day 5-6-7 – Kinabatangan River (still looking for the right guide). Day 8 – Sepilok for the orangutans, the Sun Bear Centre, and Rainforest Discovery Centre. Day 9 – Selingan, turtle island. Day 10 – Head to Semporna. Day 11-12-13-14 – Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai. Day 15 – Bohey Dulang. Day 16 to Day 25: I’M STUCK.
I looked into Danum Valley, but for 3 days/2 nights, they’re quoting 650 € per person—come on, that’s ridiculous. I checked out a detour into Indonesia (still East Borneo), but I’m having trouble deciding what would be amazing. I read about Sangalaki + Kakaban (2 islands, 1 base) / Mahakam Delta - Kutai (orangutans and river) / Sungai Boh (Dayak Kayan) – jungle & culture. But honestly, I’m struggling to finalize this itinerary. If we venture that way, we’d head back to KK from Balikpapan.
What do you all think? Thanks in advance!
Day 1 – Arrive in Kota Kinabalu early, stroll around town and hit the must-sees. Day 2 – Excursion to Tunku Abdul Rahman Park, snorkeling at 3 islands. Day 3 – Hike around Mount Kinabalu without summiting (450 per person, no way). Day 4 – Poring Hot Springs + evening flight to Sandakan. Day 5-6-7 – Kinabatangan River (still looking for the right guide). Day 8 – Sepilok for the orangutans, the Sun Bear Centre, and Rainforest Discovery Centre. Day 9 – Selingan, turtle island. Day 10 – Head to Semporna. Day 11-12-13-14 – Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai. Day 15 – Bohey Dulang. Day 16 to Day 25: I’M STUCK.
I looked into Danum Valley, but for 3 days/2 nights, they’re quoting 650 € per person—come on, that’s ridiculous. I checked out a detour into Indonesia (still East Borneo), but I’m having trouble deciding what would be amazing. I read about Sangalaki + Kakaban (2 islands, 1 base) / Mahakam Delta - Kutai (orangutans and river) / Sungai Boh (Dayak Kayan) – jungle & culture. But honestly, I’m struggling to finalize this itinerary. If we venture that way, we’d head back to KK from Balikpapan.
What do you all think? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
For a 4-month stay in Egypt, I had ENORMOUS problems. The regulations are very bureaucratic and extremely nitpicky there. For a 4-month stay in the Philippines, I was wondering if the procedures are just as complicated? I’m bringing my cell phone with an eSIM. Should I choose a plan from Canada for use in the Philippines, or should I get a plan only once I arrive? After 30 days, do I renew with the Canadian provider I chose before leaving, or do I switch to a local company? Do I need to register my phone with the authorities in the Philippines? (That was the case in Egypt.) For the 3rd and 4th months, will it be just as simple—renewing with a Canadian or local provider—or should I expect problems?
Thanks for your opinions/answers! Marc Lamarre
For a 4-month stay in Egypt, I had ENORMOUS problems. The regulations are very bureaucratic and extremely nitpicky there. For a 4-month stay in the Philippines, I was wondering if the procedures are just as complicated? I’m bringing my cell phone with an eSIM. Should I choose a plan from Canada for use in the Philippines, or should I get a plan only once I arrive? After 30 days, do I renew with the Canadian provider I chose before leaving, or do I switch to a local company? Do I need to register my phone with the authorities in the Philippines? (That was the case in Egypt.) For the 3rd and 4th months, will it be just as simple—renewing with a Canadian or local provider—or should I expect problems?
Thanks for your opinions/answers! Marc Lamarre
Hello,
I’ll be in Malaysia with my wife, mainly in Langkawi and Penang for Christmas and New Year’s at the end of 2026.
If you’ve had the experience—and since I’ve read (though it’s not very clear) that these two islands get quite crowded during this period—would you recommend booking accommodation well in advance, or is it easy to find something on the spot?
Hotels or Airbnb?
Do you have any great tips for accommodation or any practical info to share?
We’ll be staying 5 to 7 days on each island.
Thanks in advance for your replies
Hi there. To make the most of Lake Toba, is it better to find accommodation on the lake’s shores (which one?) or on Samosir Island? Thanks for your tips!
Hi. Is it possible to take the train from Malacca to Ipoh? Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
We’re heading to Vietnam as a family on July 8th for a little over 3 weeks (north and center). We’ve only booked the first 3 nights in Hanoi, and nothing else after that. We like to decide things on the spot and go with the flow, without rushing everywhere. But I’m still a bit unsure: when heading down to the center (Hue), is it better to book the overnight trains in advance? We don’t want to take any flights while we’re there—just use the overnight train for the long trips. But I’m worried we won’t get seats if we buy the tickets on the spot, say, 2 days before. What do the experts here think? And which website can we use to book the tickets? Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone!
I’m heading back to Thailand in July 2026 with a stopover in Cambodia to visit the Angkor site.
After Angkor, I’ve booked a stay on Ko Chang island. Does anyone know if there are direct transport options from Cambodia to Ko Chang without having to go back through Bangkok? That would be amazing!!
I think there are, but I’d need more details!!
I went to Thailand in February 2025 and don’t remember having to apply for a visa—is that still the case now? And for Cambodia too?
Thanks so much!!!
Laurence from Bayonne
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
hi
I’ll be on a cruise on January 11, 2027. We’re stopping in Ho Chi Minh City (Phu My).
I’d love to see something other than the city—anyone have recommendations or a guide for 6-8 people with pickup at the port?
I’d really like to visit some rice paddies.
I’ll be on a cruise on January 11, 2027. We’re stopping in Ho Chi Minh City (Phu My).
I’d love to see something other than the city—anyone have recommendations or a guide for 6-8 people with pickup at the port?
I’d really like to visit some rice paddies.
Hi there,
I’m spending 4 days in Kuala Lumpur.
Could you let me know what’s absolutely worth visiting and what’s not really worth the effort?
Any suggested itinerary?
Apart from Batu Caves, I don’t have many ideas...
I’m traveling with my partner and our 16-year-old son.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m spending 4 days in Kuala Lumpur.
Could you let me know what’s absolutely worth visiting and what’s not really worth the effort?
Any suggested itinerary?
Apart from Batu Caves, I don’t have many ideas...
I’m traveling with my partner and our 16-year-old son.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Hi there,
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)
Hi there
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi everyone. As I’m planning my trip for next winter, I’m looking for hotel suggestions in Camotes, Bantayan, Malapascua, Bohol, and Siquijor. The ones I had in mind seem to be fully booked (unless it’s too early?). For those familiar with the area, is it easy to find accommodations on the spot in January/February? I’m specifically looking for hotels with a pool, beachfront, air conditioning, and easy scooter rental nearby. Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Kanchanaburi:
Kanchanaburi:
Sri Chiangmai:
Soppong:
Tha Wang Pha:
Kanchanaburi:

Kanchanaburi:

Sri Chiangmai:

Soppong:

Tha Wang Pha:

🙂 Hi everyone!
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hi there,
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !
Hi everyone,
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!






