Questions about excursions around Marrakech
by Montagnard74
Translated into English.
You might find what you're looking for here 😉
He didn’t say they were rich, he said they were Fram !😉
That said, the place looks nice. Might take my girlfriend there on the sly 😄
He didn’t say they were rich, he said they were Fram !😉
That said, the place looks nice. Might take my girlfriend there on the sly 😄
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux."
Marcel Proust
Ah, finally someone who defends my desert
When in doubt... ESPECIALLY, never take Perju seriously
When in doubt... ESPECIALLY, never take Perju seriously
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You can be rich and Fram at the same time!
If you're rich and Fram, it just means you're also an idiot
If you're rich and Fram, it just means you're also an idiot
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux."
Marcel Proust
Ah, finally someone who defends my desert
When in doubt... ABOVE ALL, never take Perju seriously
No doubt, me neither …
When in doubt... ABOVE ALL, never take Perju seriously
No doubt, me neither …
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux."
Marcel Proust
You might find what you're looking for here 😉
He didn’t say they were rich, he said they were Fram !😉
That said, the place looks nice. Might take my girlfriend there on the sly 😄
I showed it to mine, and he said: "but the price of one night is the price of a trip! 😮" Ugh, he’s so materialistic, it’s annoying!
He didn’t say they were rich, he said they were Fram !😉
That said, the place looks nice. Might take my girlfriend there on the sly 😄
I showed it to mine, and he said: "but the price of one night is the price of a trip! 😮" Ugh, he’s so materialistic, it’s annoying!
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"Le Temps nous égare. Le Temps nous étreint. Le Temps nous est gare. Le Temps nous est train".
It's not the address itself—you have to check the tabs to see what's offered... 😏
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Well, I think stupidity is pretty evenly spread across all social classes.🤪
Anyway, I went to check out the reference site, Fram...😄
They offer a horse-drawn carriage tour by night and a 4x4 ride on the Kik plateau (as well as Essaouira, the Ourika Valley, Ait Ben Haddou, and Ouzoud).
Neither Imlil nor the Agafay desert!
Anyway, I went to check out the reference site, Fram...😄
They offer a horse-drawn carriage tour by night and a 4x4 ride on the Kik plateau (as well as Essaouira, the Ourika Valley, Ait Ben Haddou, and Ouzoud).
Neither Imlil nor the Agafay desert!
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I showed it to mine, and he said: "but the price of one night is the price of a whole trip! 😮"
Ugh, it annoys me when he’s so materialistic like that!
Nice try! 😄
Nice try! 😄
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Ben, I think stupidity is pretty evenly distributed across all social classes.🤪
We’re totally on the same page. But if I’m gonna do it, and I’ve got the money for it, I’m at least going for a 5-trident option 😎
Otherwise, I went to check out the reference site, namely Fram...😄 They offer a carriage tour by night and a 4x4 ride on the Kik plateau (as well as Essaouira, the Ourika Valley, Ait Ben Haddou, and Ouzoud). Neither Imlil nor the Agafay Desert!
The carriage tour by night—guaranteed wow effect! 😎
If even they’re doing it, I’ll have to find another option for the desert!
We’re totally on the same page. But if I’m gonna do it, and I’ve got the money for it, I’m at least going for a 5-trident option 😎
Otherwise, I went to check out the reference site, namely Fram...😄 They offer a carriage tour by night and a 4x4 ride on the Kik plateau (as well as Essaouira, the Ourika Valley, Ait Ben Haddou, and Ouzoud). Neither Imlil nor the Agafay Desert!
The carriage tour by night—guaranteed wow effect! 😎
If even they’re doing it, I’ll have to find another option for the desert!
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Marcel Proust
For Agafay, why not just do the camel ride at sunset with dinner and a show there?
Sure, it’s not the most authentic experience, but I think it’s perfect for what you’re looking for on this trip.
You just need to find the right provider to make sure the meal is good and the Berber music is too.
Given how many of you there are, you could negotiate directly with the camps in the area—especially since you’ve got your own transport.
Sure, it’s not the most authentic experience, but I think it’s perfect for what you’re looking for on this trip.
You just need to find the right provider to make sure the meal is good and the Berber music is too.
Given how many of you there are, you could negotiate directly with the camps in the area—especially since you’ve got your own transport.
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For Agafay, why not just do the camel ride at sunset + the dinner show there?
That’s exactly the idea.
You just need to find the right provider so the meal is good and the Berber music too. Given how many of you there are, you could negotiate directly with the camps in the area, especially since you’ve got your own transport.
That’s exactly the problem ;), finding the right one. And I’m not really keen on driving back from Agafay at night after a good evening with plenty of mint tea… Something like this, for example: https://boheme-marrakech.com/night-pass-avec-diner-spectacle/
That’s exactly the idea.
You just need to find the right provider so the meal is good and the Berber music too. Given how many of you there are, you could negotiate directly with the camps in the area, especially since you’ve got your own transport.
That’s exactly the problem ;), finding the right one. And I’m not really keen on driving back from Agafay at night after a good evening with plenty of mint tea… Something like this, for example: https://boheme-marrakech.com/night-pass-avec-diner-spectacle/
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I have a question...
We get it, there won’t be a travel journal. But we can still have photos, right?
Like from you, for example—dressed up, with a hat and something around your waist, in a belly dance contest to win a free cocktail!
Youyou! !
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after a great evening fueled by... mint tea
Don’t forget to check if this kind of drink is on the menu...
(No Sams on the 11th?)
Don’t forget to check if this kind of drink is on the menu...
(No Sams on the 11th?)
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For the camp, I dunno. It seems a bit big to me...
But hey, if your friends like crowds, why not.
But hey, if your friends like crowds, why not.
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Me, I have a question...
We get it, there won’t be a travel journal. But we’ll still be able to have photos, right?
Like you, for example, in costume, hat, and thing around your waist, in a belly dance contest to win a free cocktail!
Youyou!
Is this trip to Marrakech or Galaswinga? Just missing the feather to complete the picture!
Is this trip to Marrakech or Galaswinga? Just missing the feather to complete the picture!
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux."
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For the camp, I dunno. It looks a bit big to me...
Anyway, if your friends like crowds, why not.
Either way, that’s the vibe...
Either way, that’s the vibe...
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux."
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Hi there,
I read everything and had a good laugh.
A few ideas: book Majorelle online (with a set time slot) to skip the long wait.
In Agafay, they won’t sell you something authentic—just a dream. It’s still nice, especially for first-time visitors to Morocco. Seriously. You’ll find quads, camels, caidal tents, pools… and the Atlas Mountains right in front of you.
For a dinner-show evening, head to Jad Mahaal. Or in the old medina, Palais Dar Essalem is stunning but very touristy and way too noisy for my taste.
Take a trip to Lake Lalla Takerskout. You’ll easily find a restaurant there.
A few ideas: book Majorelle online (with a set time slot) to skip the long wait.
In Agafay, they won’t sell you something authentic—just a dream. It’s still nice, especially for first-time visitors to Morocco. Seriously. You’ll find quads, camels, caidal tents, pools… and the Atlas Mountains right in front of you.
For a dinner-show evening, head to Jad Mahaal. Or in the old medina, Palais Dar Essalem is stunning but very touristy and way too noisy for my taste.
Take a trip to Lake Lalla Takerskout. You’ll easily find a restaurant there.
Amazing, Mathilde! I knew you’d get our friend out of that tight spot.
You know the area better than any of us 😉
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Hi Kate,
my name is Marie Mathilde!
Mountain lovers now have to make choices!
Lalla Takerkoust rather .
Good evening,
I read everything and had a good laugh.
That’s exactly what this forum is for!
A few ideas: book online for Majorelle (with a set time slot) to avoid the long wait.
Now *that’s* a real tip. I never would’ve thought it’d be so crowded…
In Agafay, they won’t sell you authenticity but a dream. It’s also nice for those visiting Morocco for the first time. Really. You’ll find quads, camels, caidal tents, pools… and the Atlas Mountains right in front of you.
Ta-da! Here’s my Agafay defender! Do you have a reliable address for the services?
For a dinner-show evening, go to Jad Mahaal. Or in the old medina, Palais Dar Essalem—gorgeous but very touristy and too noisy for my taste.
I’ll check out your addresses. Fantasia Ali restaurant looks *super* kitsch and I’m totally tempted by the show…
Take a trip to Lake Lalla Takerskout. You’ll easily find a restaurant there.
I’d spotted the Ouirgane Dam, but apparently, it’s not the best time. I’ll check out Takerskout.
Anyway, thanks so much for all the info—especially since your messages seem short and to the point, so double thanks.
That’s exactly what this forum is for!
A few ideas: book online for Majorelle (with a set time slot) to avoid the long wait.
Now *that’s* a real tip. I never would’ve thought it’d be so crowded…
In Agafay, they won’t sell you authenticity but a dream. It’s also nice for those visiting Morocco for the first time. Really. You’ll find quads, camels, caidal tents, pools… and the Atlas Mountains right in front of you.
Ta-da! Here’s my Agafay defender! Do you have a reliable address for the services?
For a dinner-show evening, go to Jad Mahaal. Or in the old medina, Palais Dar Essalem—gorgeous but very touristy and too noisy for my taste.
I’ll check out your addresses. Fantasia Ali restaurant looks *super* kitsch and I’m totally tempted by the show…
Take a trip to Lake Lalla Takerskout. You’ll easily find a restaurant there.
I’d spotted the Ouirgane Dam, but apparently, it’s not the best time. I’ll check out Takerskout.
Anyway, thanks so much for all the info—especially since your messages seem short and to the point, so double thanks.
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux."
Marcel Proust
Amazing, Mathilde! I knew you’d get our friend out of that tight spot.
You know more than all of us 😉
Planning a vacation—could be worse as far as tight spots go! 😉
Planning a vacation—could be worse as far as tight spots go! 😉
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A few ideas: book online for Majorelle (fixed time slot) to avoid the long wait.
Here’s a real tip. I never would’ve thought it’d be so crowded...
Even with the skip-the-line ticket, go at opening in the morning to enjoy the garden. Otherwise, it’s chaos Also, get a ticket for the Berber Museum extension. It’s small but really nice.
Here’s a real tip. I never would’ve thought it’d be so crowded...
Even with the skip-the-line ticket, go at opening in the morning to enjoy the garden. Otherwise, it’s chaos Also, get a ticket for the Berber Museum extension. It’s small but really nice.
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"Le Temps nous égare. Le Temps nous étreint. Le Temps nous est gare. Le Temps nous est train".
Well then... no one suggesting a visit to an argan oil cooperative???
More peaceful than the garden where there's nothing to see... 😏
Okay, for me it's clear—I don't like crowds or cities, even the Moroccan desert, no way to be left alone, there's always some joker popping up out of nowhere... 😄
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Well then... no one suggesting a visit to an argan oil cooperative???
In Marrakech? 😏 Combined with a visit to a saffron factory?
More seriously Bruno, have you thought about taking a horse-drawn carriage ride? You could, for example, take one to get to Majorelle from Jemaa el-Fnaa square. Speaking of which, I wonder how you’re planning to park your cars when you go into the medina. There are a few parking lots, but you need to know where they are—driving in Marrakech isn’t exactly straightforward.
In Marrakech? 😏 Combined with a visit to a saffron factory?
More seriously Bruno, have you thought about taking a horse-drawn carriage ride? You could, for example, take one to get to Majorelle from Jemaa el-Fnaa square. Speaking of which, I wonder how you’re planning to park your cars when you go into the medina. There are a few parking lots, but you need to know where they are—driving in Marrakech isn’t exactly straightforward.
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Have you considered taking a horse-drawn carriage ride?
I already suggested it above... 😇 At night for that "cruise" vibe.
I already suggested it above... 😇 At night for that "cruise" vibe.
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Good evening,
A few ideas: prioritize online booking for Majorelle (set time slot) to avoid long waits.
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Hello, Online booking isn’t just recommended—it’s now the only way to buy a ticket. They’re no longer sold at the counter. You have to book online and reserve an entry time. Françoise
A few ideas: prioritize online booking for Majorelle (set time slot) to avoid long waits.
.
Hello, Online booking isn’t just recommended—it’s now the only way to buy a ticket. They’re no longer sold at the counter. You have to book online and reserve an entry time. Françoise
Hi,
No address for Agafay because I explored the site in my own 4x4 without any organization.
Huge fan... but even more so of Fezzan or Murzuk (though that’s *much* farther away!). Still, I get the appeal—it’s easy to spend a day or an evening there. I’m sure your friends will love it. Isn’t that the whole point?
Huge fan... but even more so of Fezzan or Murzuk (though that’s *much* farther away!). Still, I get the appeal—it’s easy to spend a day or an evening there. I’m sure your friends will love it. Isn’t that the whole point?
Wow... no one suggesting a visit to an argan oil cooperative???
If anyone's interested, I know one that produces organic argan oil not far from the Tichka Pass... The high-altitude argan trees allow them to make oil that's more extra-virgin than extra-virgin.
I really appreciate that they offer decent working conditions by not making the women work when there are no visitors.
If anyone's interested, I know one that produces organic argan oil not far from the Tichka Pass... The high-altitude argan trees allow them to make oil that's more extra-virgin than extra-virgin.
I really appreciate that they offer decent working conditions by not making the women work when there are no visitors.
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Hi everyone, and thanks again for the enthusiasm on this thread—I’m racking up my 5-star Moroccan guide points! 😉
Random thoughts, not in order:
- I’m not planning to use the car except for excursions. The villa offers a shuttle service into town (though I haven’t sorted out the details yet). I rented it for the week because it costs the same as 2 or 3 days, and it’ll keep things stress-free...
- The Argan Cooperative—with 8 ladies in the group, I’m all in! Seriously, I’d considered stopping there on the way to Essaouira for a break. If you’ve got a great tip, please share! I’ve got a morning set aside for "crafts" (tannery, pottery...), so go wild with suggestions!
- Agafay is on the itinerary; I just need to find the right provider. But I’m also counting on the villa manager to point me in the right direction.
- The horse-drawn carriage ride won’t be in the road book , but you never know—last-minute surprises might happen!! A little suspense and spontaneity won’t hurt
- Olivier, I’m not sure I’ll go all the way up there just for argan, but if you’ve got something closer, I’m in!
Random thoughts, not in order:
- I’m not planning to use the car except for excursions. The villa offers a shuttle service into town (though I haven’t sorted out the details yet). I rented it for the week because it costs the same as 2 or 3 days, and it’ll keep things stress-free...
- The Argan Cooperative—with 8 ladies in the group, I’m all in! Seriously, I’d considered stopping there on the way to Essaouira for a break. If you’ve got a great tip, please share! I’ve got a morning set aside for "crafts" (tannery, pottery...), so go wild with suggestions!
- Agafay is on the itinerary; I just need to find the right provider. But I’m also counting on the villa manager to point me in the right direction.
- The horse-drawn carriage ride won’t be in the road book , but you never know—last-minute surprises might happen!! A little suspense and spontaneity won’t hurt
- Olivier, I’m not sure I’ll go all the way up there just for argan, but if you’ve got something closer, I’m in!
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux."
Marcel Proust
How about a Moroccan cooking class?
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How about a Moroccan cooking class?
If this keeps up, I’ll take you with us! Also considering it, but haven’t decided yet...
If this keeps up, I’ll take you with us! Also considering it, but haven’t decided yet...
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux."
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I have a "Crafts" morning planned (tannery, pottery, etc.), enjoy!
I think you can fit it into your visit to the medina. The artisan souks will meet the girls' expectations (and empty their wallets ;)) Options include: jewelry, leather, spices, carpets, fabrics, metalwork, marquetry... I’m not talking about the shopping streets around the Square, but the souks where most of these items are made. That’s the most interesting part of the medina.
I think you can fit it into your visit to the medina. The artisan souks will meet the girls' expectations (and empty their wallets ;)) Options include: jewelry, leather, spices, carpets, fabrics, metalwork, marquetry... I’m not talking about the shopping streets around the Square, but the souks where most of these items are made. That’s the most interesting part of the medina.
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And a Moroccan cooking class?
Awesome!!! It’s a way to get rid of the 8 chicks... right? No, just kidding... besides, I’m the one who cooks at home... it’s safer, chicks don’t know anything about it...😎
Awesome!!! It’s a way to get rid of the 8 chicks... right? No, just kidding... besides, I’m the one who cooks at home... it’s safer, chicks don’t know anything about it...😎
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Ah, at first I was worried, but in the end, I see you're a guy who's open-minded.
Women dig that ;)
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I used to be a travel agent...😉
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No way!
Cooking is the only thing in the "household chores" package that isn’t really a chore and can interest everyone!
Well, those who like to eat, anyway...
The other tasks? Nobody’s interested...🤪
The other tasks? Nobody’s interested...🤪
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I’m taking 8 girls on vacation—did you really think I’d peel just one carrot?
What’s up with that! 😉
Too unconventional for you, Mrs. Rousseau?
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So there’ll only be 3 guys? You’re 11 in total, right?
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Did someone say 8 girls? 😄
4 couples, so 4 guys. Well, in this case, that’s how it is.
Perju, reporting in!
Perju, reporting in!
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux."
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So, to sum up... you're leaving with a group of 8 "girls"... who aren't actually girls... but who consist of 4 couples of 4 guys, making a final group of 11 people...
...so, I just took seriously the article from *Le Dauphiné* about the complaint
filed by a couple regarding their child's health problems due to pollution in the Arve Valley...😇
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Hey, Perju, pay attention!
We’ve got 4 couples—so 4 guys and 4 girls. Got it?
Plus 3 single girls.
So 4 girls + 4 guys + 3 girls = ? ELEVEN, Perju! And 7 girls + 4 guys makes how many? Eleven, Perju! Who said 8? WHO? You really need to stop doodling cutlery during class, Mr. Degrenne 😉 [;]
So 4 girls + 4 guys + 3 girls = ? ELEVEN, Perju! And 7 girls + 4 guys makes how many? Eleven, Perju! Who said 8? WHO? You really need to stop doodling cutlery during class, Mr. Degrenne 😉 [;]
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🤪
- The Argan Cooperative, with 8 chicks in the group, I’m all in!! Seriously, I’d considered it on the way to Essaouira for a break. If you’ve got a great tip, thanks for sharing. I’ve got a morning planned for "Handicrafts" (tannery, pottery...), enjoy yourselves!
Being in bad faith doesn’t mix with fast fact-checking. 😠
I’m putting my cutlery away. Good night, everyone
- The Argan Cooperative, with 8 chicks in the group, I’m all in!! Seriously, I’d considered it on the way to Essaouira for a break. If you’ve got a great tip, thanks for sharing. I’ve got a morning planned for "Handicrafts" (tannery, pottery...), enjoy yourselves!
Being in bad faith doesn’t mix with fast fact-checking. 😠
I’m putting my cutlery away. Good night, everyone
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So it's not pollution... it's definitely génépi! 😏
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The worst part is he wrote it twice 😄
Probably just a fantasy, who knows!
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I thought argan trees were only found around Agadir and Taroudant, basically. I'm surprised you can see them at altitude.
Uh... It was a joke...
Uh... It was a joke...
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Okay, so I didn’t find an argan cooperative but instead a wine estate that offers tours with tastings...
It’s on the road to Essaouira: Val d’Argan! 😇
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Okay, I didn't find an argan cooperative but rather a wine estate that offers tours with tastings...
The leopard doesn't change its spots...
The leopard doesn't change its spots...
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The worst part is he wrote it twice
Probably a fantasy, who knows!
If the fantasy is turning one of my buddies into a girl, nope, not really 😅 And going on vacation with 8 girls isn’t a fantasy—it’s a nightmare! Though...
If the fantasy is turning one of my buddies into a girl, nope, not really 😅 And going on vacation with 8 girls isn’t a fantasy—it’s a nightmare! Though...
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Well, I didn’t find an argan cooperative but instead a vineyard that you can visit with a tasting...
It’s on the way to Essaouira: the Val...d’Argan! 😇
And kill two birds with one stone!!
https://maps.app.goo.gl/TnARCGNMUXv84LPJ8?g_st=com.google.maps.preview.copy
Right next to the vineyard! What are you doing in May? 😄
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Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hi everyone,
I'm looking for a pool to go to with my wife and my 8-year-old son in the Targa neighborhood of Marrakech, or near that area.
Thanks in advance for your help. didier
I'm looking for a pool to go to with my wife and my 8-year-old son in the Targa neighborhood of Marrakech, or near that area.
Thanks in advance for your help. didier
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi there, 🙂
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities. Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Thanks
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities. Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Thanks
Based on your experiences, do you have a professional to recommend?
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency. If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling. We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback! Safe travels to all, Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency. If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling. We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback! Safe travels to all, Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
Hi, I'm looking for a taxi from Dakhla airport to downtown Dakhla.
If you know a contact ?????
Hi there,
I’m looking for info about driving a vehicle in Tunisia.
Is it complicated?
Do I need an international driver’s permit?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Any recommendations?
Have a great day
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Any recommendations?
Have a great day
It's all in the title.
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
I know there are experts on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
I know there are experts on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Hi there,
I’m looking for some friendly recommendations for places to stay in Marrakech for 3 nights in June 2026.
In the meantime, have a great day, everyone! Thanks so much in advance.
hi,
I’m planning to take the SETE-TANGER ferry with my car.
No agency in my town sells tickets.
Has anyone done this before and can point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance.
have a good day
I’m planning to take the SETE-TANGER ferry with my car.
No agency in my town sells tickets.
Has anyone done this before and can point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance.
have a good day
Good evening, everyone!
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
Tickets for entry to Majorelle Garden are only issued online via an official site
(though there are fraudulent sites out there). On the official site, they ask for legitimate info
(name, nationality, etc.). What made me go "hmm" was the request for both an email address
AND a password (with confirmation). Is this normal?
Thanks for your replies.
Hi there, a group of girlfriends and I are heading to Tunisia. We’d love to know how much cash we should bring for 6 days, considering everything’s already paid for at the hotel. Thanks for your tips!
Hi everyone! :)
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques