Que détestent les Thaïlandais?
by Touapai
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Ensuite j'ai expliqué à mon épouse que, d'après vous, elle me racontait des c.nneries !
Sa réaction a été un simple haussement d'épaules, son attention est de suite partie ailleurs ...
Tu viens donc de m'apprendre deux choses.
1/ que ce que tu ecris n'est pas ke fruit de tes observations personnelles, mais juste des allégations de ton épouse.Je te suggèrerais donc, de prendre un peu de recul et de vérifier honnètement et par toi-même les choses avant de les affirmer.
2/ que les thais ont toujours une aussi gande opinion d'eux-mêmes.
Mais je crois avoir compris la source du "désaccord", ma femme n'est pas "un thaïlandais" !
Navré, trop subtil pour moi.
Bien du bonheur avec madame.....
Sa réaction a été un simple haussement d'épaules, son attention est de suite partie ailleurs ...
Tu viens donc de m'apprendre deux choses.
1/ que ce que tu ecris n'est pas ke fruit de tes observations personnelles, mais juste des allégations de ton épouse.Je te suggèrerais donc, de prendre un peu de recul et de vérifier honnètement et par toi-même les choses avant de les affirmer.
2/ que les thais ont toujours une aussi gande opinion d'eux-mêmes.
Mais je crois avoir compris la source du "désaccord", ma femme n'est pas "un thaïlandais" !
Navré, trop subtil pour moi.
Bien du bonheur avec madame.....
yama
L'homme a trois coeurs. Le premier tout le monde le connait. Le second, seuls ses amis le connaissent. Le troisième ? c'est le vrai, le sien. (Proverbe Japonais)
L'homme a trois coeurs. Le premier tout le monde le connait. Le second, seuls ses amis le connaissent. Le troisième ? c'est le vrai, le sien. (Proverbe Japonais)
Voui. Mais, ça, c'est parce que toi non plus, tu ne connais pas ce pays. 😎
Ciao, le belge.
Ciao, le belge.
yama
L'homme a trois coeurs. Le premier tout le monde le connait. Le second, seuls ses amis le connaissent. Le troisième ? c'est le vrai, le sien. (Proverbe Japonais)
L'homme a trois coeurs. Le premier tout le monde le connait. Le second, seuls ses amis le connaissent. Le troisième ? c'est le vrai, le sien. (Proverbe Japonais)
😊 Reste juste à dire que la femme de Mengwan n'aime pas le paté de lapin et qu'en celà, elle rejoint la majorité des thais qui en ont marre d'écouter les délires des falangs auxquels ils sont complètement étrangers...d'ou son haussement d'epaules!
Et que de la mesure en toutes choses est recommandée en ASE !
Je cois que les thais n'aiment pas les grandes gueules, le parler fort ou pour ne rien dire ...sauf si il ya un profit à en attendre ... (il n'y a pas qu'eux)!...
L'occident les pense infantile, ils nous le renvoient bien et à juste titre !
De plus, ce sont des enfants gatés par l' "Histoire", le développement du pays s'est construit sur les reliquats, laissés par les americains lorsque ceux ci ont du abandonner leurs ambitions salvatrices dans cette partie du monde (materiel militaire, medical, bar à puttes ...etc) ...en deux mots: guerre vietnam....
Par rapport au sujet, un thai a horreur de perdre ( ce ne sont pas les seuls!)...Pour etre bien vu comme falang, soyez un looser, ainsi il n'y aura aucun problème !😏😏😏
Et que de la mesure en toutes choses est recommandée en ASE !
Je cois que les thais n'aiment pas les grandes gueules, le parler fort ou pour ne rien dire ...sauf si il ya un profit à en attendre ... (il n'y a pas qu'eux)!...
L'occident les pense infantile, ils nous le renvoient bien et à juste titre !
De plus, ce sont des enfants gatés par l' "Histoire", le développement du pays s'est construit sur les reliquats, laissés par les americains lorsque ceux ci ont du abandonner leurs ambitions salvatrices dans cette partie du monde (materiel militaire, medical, bar à puttes ...etc) ...en deux mots: guerre vietnam....
Par rapport au sujet, un thai a horreur de perdre ( ce ne sont pas les seuls!)...Pour etre bien vu comme falang, soyez un looser, ainsi il n'y aura aucun problème !😏😏😏
Roger
Salut
pour répondre à rogerbarthas je me suis retrouver dans un temple assise sur un banc avec mon ami et ce sont de jeunes moines qui sont venus s'assoir autour de nous pour discuter(avec moi femme) juste histoire de pratiquer l'anglais je pense. Genée au début car j'avais lu une femme ne doit pas parler avec les moines et bla bla bla mais en fait on a discuté un moment et c'etait trés sympas, je pense que lorsque l'on voyage à moins d'être un abruti fini si l'on a envie d'un échange sans faire dans la provoc les choses se passent bien, il suffit d'être ouvert sans non plus trop de protocole qui ne serait pas naturel.Essaye d'être nature avec juste le minimum le b.a.ba qui est dans tous les guides ( le Roi, Boudha..) un peu d'amour pour le pays que tu visite et sa population t'ouvriront toute les portes .
Bon voyage
Nonoka
"les grandes gueules" ...
Effectivement, lorsque la démarche consistant à demander à un(e) thaïlandais(e) ce qui n'est pas "apprécié" chez "le falang" est considérée comme anormale, le terme de "grande gueule" s'applique tout à fait !
Grande gueule, petites mains, grandes dents, petit cerveau ...
Mais ce sont peut-être les "ya..." qui sont les coupables !
Effectivement, lorsque la démarche consistant à demander à un(e) thaïlandais(e) ce qui n'est pas "apprécié" chez "le falang" est considérée comme anormale, le terme de "grande gueule" s'applique tout à fait !
Grande gueule, petites mains, grandes dents, petit cerveau ...
Mais ce sont peut-être les "ya..." qui sont les coupables !
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
En vrac..... Le durian dans les hôtels, Ne pas manger toutes les 2 heures, la nourriture non épicée, quand il n'y a plus de som tam, les coupures d'électricité en plein milieu de leur série préférée, Un 4x4 non tuning....
Je laisse la parole aux spécialistes pour le reste, la liste n'est pas exhaustive 😛
Je laisse la parole aux spécialistes pour le reste, la liste n'est pas exhaustive 😛
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"Le durian dans les hôtels"
Euh, vous êtes sûr qu'ils détestent vraiment ?
Cà serait-y-pas plutôt qu'ils aimeraient trop bien ... et que donc on le leur interdit !
On peut remarquer que, partout, on interdit en premier les comportements fréquents, donc considérés comme agréables individuellement, mais socialement non souhaitables.
Euh, vous êtes sûr qu'ils détestent vraiment ?
Cà serait-y-pas plutôt qu'ils aimeraient trop bien ... et que donc on le leur interdit !
On peut remarquer que, partout, on interdit en premier les comportements fréquents, donc considérés comme agréables individuellement, mais socialement non souhaitables.
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Ce sont les thais qui n'en mangent pas qui détestent, vous savez les dégouts et les ODEURS (surtout) 😛😏😄 en général il y a toujours un petit panneau qui indique "No Durian is allowed" (j'ai pas la photo sous la main) ce n'est pas moi qui le dit 😉
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Thierry,
la tu est a cote de la plaque,
comme pour tes affirmations que le Thai ne donne jamais de pourboire ce qui est entierement faux,
donc ne t etonnes pas d avoir des rectificatifs sur le sujet
cela serait sympa si l on recentrait le sujet sans rentrer dans des gueguerres d ego
qui n apporte rien de positif aux lecteurs
qui te fait oublier que tu es TOI AUSSI un "touriste" !
qui te fait oublier que tu es TOI AUSSI un "touriste" !
la liste n'est pas exhaustive
les pick up qui n arrive pas a charger 25 personnes, le futur (demain compris) une sono qui ne s entend pas 10 kms un PV officiel les Suisses fauches (humour) les sens uniques une mairie ou commisseriat sans TV un premier ministre qui tient + de 1 an moins de 25 degres les douaniers Laotiens qui partent tous ensembles casser la croute entre 12 et 14 heures
les pick up qui n arrive pas a charger 25 personnes, le futur (demain compris) une sono qui ne s entend pas 10 kms un PV officiel les Suisses fauches (humour) les sens uniques une mairie ou commisseriat sans TV un premier ministre qui tient + de 1 an moins de 25 degres les douaniers Laotiens qui partent tous ensembles casser la croute entre 12 et 14 heures
Dis donc, dis donc......tu nous a fait un post d'anthologie là.
les grandes gueules" ...
Effectivement, lorsque la démarche consistant à demander à un(e) thaïlandais(e) ce qui n'est pas "apprécié" chez "le falang" est considérée comme anormale, le terme de "grande gueule" s'applique tout à fait !
Grande gueule, petites mains, grandes dents, petit cerveau ...
Mais ce sont peut-être les "ya..." qui sont les coupables !
Si tu as quelque chose de spécial à dire, tache de le faire de manière compréhensible, c'est mieux.
Je pense que là, c'est surtout toi qui a une grande gueule. Pour ce qui est de la mienne, de mes mains, de mes dents, ou de mon cerveau, si l'envie de les mesurer t"assaille, pas de problèmes. Je fournis même le pied à coulisse.
Je pense que ce qui fausse surtout la vision du farang qu'on les thais, c'est les farangs d'élite qu'elles fréquentent. je te rappellerais, que vivant avec ta femme, tu es sa principale référence niveau farang. Alors.....demandes-toi plutôt de qui elle parle. Donc, QUi est le "coupable".
De plus, je maintiens, n'avoir que très, très rarement vu des thais laisser du tips. Et, promis, je ne fréquente pas que des cloches ou des putes en Thailande ! En tous cas, beaucoup moins que pas mal sur ce site.
Mais, je ne doute à aucun moment de la générosité des thais, quand ils ne s'agit pas de leur pognon.
Allez, sois mignon, ne m'agresse pas. Ou alors fais-le vraiment.
les grandes gueules" ...
Effectivement, lorsque la démarche consistant à demander à un(e) thaïlandais(e) ce qui n'est pas "apprécié" chez "le falang" est considérée comme anormale, le terme de "grande gueule" s'applique tout à fait !
Grande gueule, petites mains, grandes dents, petit cerveau ...
Mais ce sont peut-être les "ya..." qui sont les coupables !
Si tu as quelque chose de spécial à dire, tache de le faire de manière compréhensible, c'est mieux.
Je pense que là, c'est surtout toi qui a une grande gueule. Pour ce qui est de la mienne, de mes mains, de mes dents, ou de mon cerveau, si l'envie de les mesurer t"assaille, pas de problèmes. Je fournis même le pied à coulisse.
Je pense que ce qui fausse surtout la vision du farang qu'on les thais, c'est les farangs d'élite qu'elles fréquentent. je te rappellerais, que vivant avec ta femme, tu es sa principale référence niveau farang. Alors.....demandes-toi plutôt de qui elle parle. Donc, QUi est le "coupable".
De plus, je maintiens, n'avoir que très, très rarement vu des thais laisser du tips. Et, promis, je ne fréquente pas que des cloches ou des putes en Thailande ! En tous cas, beaucoup moins que pas mal sur ce site.
Mais, je ne doute à aucun moment de la générosité des thais, quand ils ne s'agit pas de leur pognon.
Allez, sois mignon, ne m'agresse pas. Ou alors fais-le vraiment.
yama
L'homme a trois coeurs. Le premier tout le monde le connait. Le second, seuls ses amis le connaissent. Le troisième ? c'est le vrai, le sien. (Proverbe Japonais)
L'homme a trois coeurs. Le premier tout le monde le connait. Le second, seuls ses amis le connaissent. Le troisième ? c'est le vrai, le sien. (Proverbe Japonais)
prayot: econome ou utile pour un objet
pas d accord kiniao c est pas bien ....payate (econome) c est tres bien vu
pas d accord kiniao c est pas bien ....payate (econome) c est tres bien vu
Faux et archi-faux ! les thais ne laissent JAMAIS de pourboires !
tu maintiens pas, tu revises la phrase de ton affirmation anterieure, l erreur est humaine
De plus, je maintiens, n'avoir que très, très rarement vu des thais laisser du tips.
tu maintiens pas, tu revises la phrase de ton affirmation anterieure, l erreur est humaine
De plus, je maintiens, n'avoir que très, très rarement vu des thais laisser du tips.
L'intolérance ?😉
Tout le monde meurt, peu de gens vivent .
Je n'aime pas donner des réponses ... . Aujourd'hui, quand on donne aux gens des réponses, ils ont l'impression qu'on les prend pour des imbéciles et qu'on empiète sur leur liberté. Mon testament philosophique Citations de Jean Guitton
Je n'aime pas donner des réponses ... . Aujourd'hui, quand on donne aux gens des réponses, ils ont l'impression qu'on les prend pour des imbéciles et qu'on empiète sur leur liberté. Mon testament philosophique Citations de Jean Guitton
Robert,
je sais que tu connais ce monsieur. il doit même faire partie de tes potes. Mais, pas des miens.
Puisqu'il avait cru bon de mentionner "sa femme" en tant que référence ultime, je me doutais bien, qu'il était au royaume un peu plus souvent que les touristes en VO. Tu ne crois pas ?
Cependant la super tirade sur les coins "pollués" par les touristes, j'ai un peu de mal. Que tu sois résident ou visiteur, le thai ne te connaissant pas perso te vois exactement de la même façon. Tu es un farang ! point.
Donc, s'il estime ( ce qui n'est qu'une vue de blanc voulant jouer au thai) que les farangs "polluent" son biotope, un résident pollue autant que les autres.
Quand à "être à côté de la plaque", tu penses que ton pote es dans le vrai en ce qui me concerne ?
Et, je maintiens ce que j'ai dit sur les thais et les tips. Allez, si ça te semble très important remplace le "jamais" par "généralement" et, tu peux même y rajouter 'quand iul s'agit de leur argent". Histoire de me rendre un peu plus populaire.
je sais que tu connais ce monsieur. il doit même faire partie de tes potes. Mais, pas des miens.
Puisqu'il avait cru bon de mentionner "sa femme" en tant que référence ultime, je me doutais bien, qu'il était au royaume un peu plus souvent que les touristes en VO. Tu ne crois pas ?
Cependant la super tirade sur les coins "pollués" par les touristes, j'ai un peu de mal. Que tu sois résident ou visiteur, le thai ne te connaissant pas perso te vois exactement de la même façon. Tu es un farang ! point.
Donc, s'il estime ( ce qui n'est qu'une vue de blanc voulant jouer au thai) que les farangs "polluent" son biotope, un résident pollue autant que les autres.
Quand à "être à côté de la plaque", tu penses que ton pote es dans le vrai en ce qui me concerne ?
Et, je maintiens ce que j'ai dit sur les thais et les tips. Allez, si ça te semble très important remplace le "jamais" par "généralement" et, tu peux même y rajouter 'quand iul s'agit de leur argent". Histoire de me rendre un peu plus populaire.
yama
L'homme a trois coeurs. Le premier tout le monde le connait. Le second, seuls ses amis le connaissent. Le troisième ? c'est le vrai, le sien. (Proverbe Japonais)
L'homme a trois coeurs. Le premier tout le monde le connait. Le second, seuls ses amis le connaissent. Le troisième ? c'est le vrai, le sien. (Proverbe Japonais)
L'intolérance ?
Surement. Ils ont même prévu des maisons de tolérance.

Surement. Ils ont même prévu des maisons de tolérance.
yama
L'homme a trois coeurs. Le premier tout le monde le connait. Le second, seuls ses amis le connaissent. Le troisième ? c'est le vrai, le sien. (Proverbe Japonais)
L'homme a trois coeurs. Le premier tout le monde le connait. Le second, seuls ses amis le connaissent. Le troisième ? c'est le vrai, le sien. (Proverbe Japonais)
je sais que tu connais ce monsieur. il doit même faire partie de tes potes
sur VF je n ai pas de potes, simplement des VFistes avec qui j echange sur un sujet precis, dans la vie reele j en connais certains dont Alban, Francois et toi meme que j ai eu l occasion d apprecier lors de notre passage a Nice, mais quand j ai des griefs je les exprimes sans langue de bois en MP, ceci afin de ne pas deteriorer le sanouk de la demande initiale, et conserver l interet des lecteurs pour un sujet ma foi fort interessant culturellement
ps mon message 60 se rapportait a Notongting et pas Francois
sur VF je n ai pas de potes, simplement des VFistes avec qui j echange sur un sujet precis, dans la vie reele j en connais certains dont Alban, Francois et toi meme que j ai eu l occasion d apprecier lors de notre passage a Nice, mais quand j ai des griefs je les exprimes sans langue de bois en MP, ceci afin de ne pas deteriorer le sanouk de la demande initiale, et conserver l interet des lecteurs pour un sujet ma foi fort interessant culturellement
ps mon message 60 se rapportait a Notongting et pas Francois
Que tu sois résident ou visiteur, le thai ne te connaissant pas perso te vois exactement de la même façon. Tu es un farang ! point.
Thierry, une petite anecdote toute fraiche de qq jours, qui te permettra la aussi d etre moins categorique (conversation en Thai avec la patronne du magasin, je n ai pas dit que j etais la a l annee) desirant faire l aquisition d une paire de lunette copie Climax j ai porter mon choix sur un modele a 450 Bhts j ai sortis un billet de 1000 pour payer sans discuter, elle m a aussitot ramener le prix a 400, la remerciant en Thai, la conversation s est engagee et, au final m a rabattu le prix a 350 elle m a dit: je te fait le prix Thai car tu n as pas chercher a marchander preuve de ce que les Thais detestent bonne journee
Thierry, une petite anecdote toute fraiche de qq jours, qui te permettra la aussi d etre moins categorique (conversation en Thai avec la patronne du magasin, je n ai pas dit que j etais la a l annee) desirant faire l aquisition d une paire de lunette copie Climax j ai porter mon choix sur un modele a 450 Bhts j ai sortis un billet de 1000 pour payer sans discuter, elle m a aussitot ramener le prix a 400, la remerciant en Thai, la conversation s est engagee et, au final m a rabattu le prix a 350 elle m a dit: je te fait le prix Thai car tu n as pas chercher a marchander preuve de ce que les Thais detestent bonne journee
Pour faire le lien avec l'autre fil (plus "positif"), c'est le genre d'événement en effet que j'adore et me comble d'aise ...
Et les gens finissent par vous "repérer", j'ai même un garde à l'entrée du Lotus qui me fait un sourire de reconnaissance depuis le temps que je suis ici !
Ils sont ... normaux, donc !
PS: Ma femme (qui est et reste ma thaïlandaise de référence 😉) était une ardente supportrice de Samak, je lui avais prédit qu'il partirait, maintenant elle me regarde avec un oeil légèrement différent.
Après près de 30 ans, il ne faut jamais désespérer ...
Aurais-je oublié "ils n'aiment pas parler politique avec les falangs" ?
Et les gens finissent par vous "repérer", j'ai même un garde à l'entrée du Lotus qui me fait un sourire de reconnaissance depuis le temps que je suis ici !
Ils sont ... normaux, donc !
PS: Ma femme (qui est et reste ma thaïlandaise de référence 😉) était une ardente supportrice de Samak, je lui avais prédit qu'il partirait, maintenant elle me regarde avec un oeil légèrement différent.
Après près de 30 ans, il ne faut jamais désespérer ...
Aurais-je oublié "ils n'aiment pas parler politique avec les falangs" ?
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
On y revient.... 😏
1 Suisse fauché = 1 Belge. 😉
les Suisses fauches (humour)
les Suisses fauches (humour)
@+
Thibaut
Cette histoire sur les suisses et "leur" fric !
Je crois que tout le fric de leurs banques ne leur appartient pas, et ils n'ont volé que celui des juifs que le voisin d'à côté s'était chargé de faire disparaître ...
C'est vieux, tout çà, pourquoi ne pas couper la clim' et ouvrir un peu les fenêtres ?
Je crois que tout le fric de leurs banques ne leur appartient pas, et ils n'ont volé que celui des juifs que le voisin d'à côté s'était chargé de faire disparaître ...
C'est vieux, tout çà, pourquoi ne pas couper la clim' et ouvrir un peu les fenêtres ?
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
...ils ont meme prevu des maisons de tolerance
Je l'ai deja deja sorti dans le post : . Un bide ! Les "djeunes", comprennent pas ce qu'on veut dire !
Je l'ai deja deja sorti dans le post : . Un bide ! Les "djeunes", comprennent pas ce qu'on veut dire !
Voyager c'est découvrir que tout le monde a tort.
Aldous Huxley
les pick up qui n arrive pas a charger 25 personnes,
le futur (demain compris)
une sono qui ne s entend pas 10 kms
un PV officiel
les Suisses fauches (humour)
les sens uniques
une mairie ou commisseriat sans TV
un premier ministre qui tient + de 1 an
moins de 25 degres
les douaniers Laotiens qui partent tous ensembles casser la croute entre 12 et 14 heures Je savais que j'oubliais pleins de choses 😉, dont l'ULTRA important la température 😮 surtout quand il n'y a plus de pet pet 😛 Bon, j'avais essayé d'apporter (sans vrai succès) une petite touche d'humour au débat, ne m'en veut pas NTT 😉
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
bonjour!
Salut pour répondre à rogerbarthas je me suis retrouver dans un temple assise sur un banc avec mon ami et ce sont de jeunes moines qui sont venus s'assoir autour de nous pour discuter(avec moi femme) juste histoire de pratiquer l'anglais je pense
Oui, bien sur...Mais on ne parle pas de la meme chose, le jeune qui passe un cours séjour dans la robe safranée...(Ils sont censés TOUS le faire) ...et une personne qui a voué sa vie à une quete spirituelle (je parle des seconds)... De plus, ce sont eux qui sont venus te parler et non le contraire...
Après, c'est en Thailande comme ailleurs, les choses évoluent...
Salut pour répondre à rogerbarthas je me suis retrouver dans un temple assise sur un banc avec mon ami et ce sont de jeunes moines qui sont venus s'assoir autour de nous pour discuter(avec moi femme) juste histoire de pratiquer l'anglais je pense
Oui, bien sur...Mais on ne parle pas de la meme chose, le jeune qui passe un cours séjour dans la robe safranée...(Ils sont censés TOUS le faire) ...et une personne qui a voué sa vie à une quete spirituelle (je parle des seconds)... De plus, ce sont eux qui sont venus te parler et non le contraire...
Après, c'est en Thailande comme ailleurs, les choses évoluent...
Roger
on va te surnomer le Colombo de VF
a ta decharge c est vrai que c est une femme de caractere
Ma femme
Aurais-je oublié "ils n'aiment pas parler politique avec les falangs" ?
non ils n aimes pas parler politique en general, encore une anecdote vecue toute fraiche:
Depuis quelques jours çà chauffe a Bangkok, Çà chauffe tellement que l'état d'urgence a été décrété, Bien sur grosse discutions Franco-françaises/ Y' ka/ fo'ke,
Me rappelle plus le nom du 1° ministre, Demande a Pom la responsable du bar, Fait les yeux ronds, plisse le front, transpire et puis son visage s'illumine ! A haute voix elle interpelle les autres serveuses: Hé les filles ! comment s'appelle le 1° ministre ? Quelques conciliabules a voix basse plus loin la moins timide: TAMOK ! Cà me reviens: TAMAK Elles n'étaient pas loin les suffragettes.
Une histoire d'O en somme
content que ce post ai repris son cote sanuk
Ma femme
Aurais-je oublié "ils n'aiment pas parler politique avec les falangs" ?
non ils n aimes pas parler politique en general, encore une anecdote vecue toute fraiche:
Depuis quelques jours çà chauffe a Bangkok, Çà chauffe tellement que l'état d'urgence a été décrété, Bien sur grosse discutions Franco-françaises/ Y' ka/ fo'ke,
Me rappelle plus le nom du 1° ministre, Demande a Pom la responsable du bar, Fait les yeux ronds, plisse le front, transpire et puis son visage s'illumine ! A haute voix elle interpelle les autres serveuses: Hé les filles ! comment s'appelle le 1° ministre ? Quelques conciliabules a voix basse plus loin la moins timide: TAMOK ! Cà me reviens: TAMAK Elles n'étaient pas loin les suffragettes.
Une histoire d'O en somme
content que ce post ai repris son cote sanuk
impossible de se souvenir de tout, surtout avec l influence d une epouse Thai,
qq fois j oublie meme...
j ai oublier quoi au fait, Pai ! chouaye douhaye !
NTT, pas le genre a etre rancunier sauf si tu lui fauche son Ricard
Je savais que j'oubliais pleins de choses 😉, dont l'ULTRA important la température 😮 surtout quand il n'y a plus de pet pet 😛 Bon, j'avais essayé d'apporter (sans vrai succès) une petite touche d'humour au débat, ne m'en veut pas NTT 😉
Je savais que j'oubliais pleins de choses 😉, dont l'ULTRA important la température 😮 surtout quand il n'y a plus de pet pet 😛 Bon, j'avais essayé d'apporter (sans vrai succès) une petite touche d'humour au débat, ne m'en veut pas NTT 😉
EFFECTIVEMENT, LES PIEDS ONT UNE SYMBOLIQUE POUR LE PEUPLE THAI.
ILS SONT CONSIDÉRÉS COMME SALES PARCE QU'ILS SONT LA PARTIE DU CORPS LA PLUS BASSE. ONT NE POINTE JAMAIS UNE PERSONNE AVEC SES PIEDS, D'AILLEURS LES THAIS ONT TENDANCE A CACHER LEURS PIEDS Lorsqu'ils S'ASSOIENT😏
jakikosensei
Quelques conciliabules a voix basse plus loin la moins timide: TAMOK !
Entre Samak et Ta Mok (du Cambodge), Samak est le moins pire, et de loin ...
Chez moi, c'est les infos (thaïlandaises) deux fois par jour, "on" est politisé ... de loin quand même.
Il n'y a que quelques mois que Madame a compris que Chichi avait été remplacé par un "petit" (beurk).
La politique en Thaïlande me fait rigoler, c'est encore plus caricatural qu'en France 🙂🙂🙂🙂
NB:Ma chaîne thaïlandaise préférée, et de loin, c'est celle où on passe du lukthung 24/7.
Entre Samak et Ta Mok (du Cambodge), Samak est le moins pire, et de loin ...
Chez moi, c'est les infos (thaïlandaises) deux fois par jour, "on" est politisé ... de loin quand même.
Il n'y a que quelques mois que Madame a compris que Chichi avait été remplacé par un "petit" (beurk).
La politique en Thaïlande me fait rigoler, c'est encore plus caricatural qu'en France 🙂🙂🙂🙂
NB:Ma chaîne thaïlandaise préférée, et de loin, c'est celle où on passe du lukthung 24/7.
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
EFFECTIVEMENT, LES PIEDS ONT UNE SYMBOLIQUE POUR LE PEUPLE THAI.
ILS SONT CONSIDÉRÉS COMME SALES PARCE QU'ILS SONT LA PARTIE DU CORPS LA PLUS BASSE. ONT NE POINTE JAMAIS UNE PERSONNE AVEC SES PIEDS, D'AILLEURS LES THAIS ONT TENDANCE A CACHER LEURS PIEDS Lorsqu'ils S'ASSOIENT
voici la raison scientifique, .................
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voici la raison scientifique, .................

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impossible de se souvenir de tout, surtout avec l influence d une epouse Thai,
qq fois j oublie meme...
j ai oublier quoi au fait, Pai ! chouaye douhaye !
NTT, pas le genre a etre rancunier sauf si tu lui fauche son Ricard
Tout a fait Khun Robert 😉 tiens ca me fait penser a celui la qui manque dans la liste:
- faire de la moto tout seul, c'est toujours plus fun a 3 ou 4 voire même plus avec femme, enfants, le chien et le cochon sans oublier les poules 😉 (pour l'éléphant, prévoir tout de même un side-car 😛)
PS. Pour le Ricard de NTT c'est noté, une chose a ne pas oublier ca par contre 😉😄😏😏😏
Tout a fait Khun Robert 😉 tiens ca me fait penser a celui la qui manque dans la liste:
- faire de la moto tout seul, c'est toujours plus fun a 3 ou 4 voire même plus avec femme, enfants, le chien et le cochon sans oublier les poules 😉 (pour l'éléphant, prévoir tout de même un side-car 😛)
PS. Pour le Ricard de NTT c'est noté, une chose a ne pas oublier ca par contre 😉😄😏😏😏
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
je t en prie, pas de Monsieur entre nous
ca y est, ca me reviens! toujours sur le sujet motobike les Thais detestent conduire des 2 mains, la main gauche est reservee a: a se proteger les yeux du soleil ou des poussieres a se proteger la bouche et le nez des non controles techniques du vehicule precedent, a tenir sa boisson preferee, a finir son som tam a telephoner, a tenir le BB a tenir le 3ieme sac de riz a dire bonjour au Farang (reserver aux charmantes Lady bar) a tenir l ombrelle ou le parasol (suivant saison) a tenir le casque les jours de grand vent ou au croisement avec un camion/toupie et pour la version campagne faire le menage nasal
s applique aussi pour le retro/salon de beaute
Khun Robert
ca y est, ca me reviens! toujours sur le sujet motobike les Thais detestent conduire des 2 mains, la main gauche est reservee a: a se proteger les yeux du soleil ou des poussieres a se proteger la bouche et le nez des non controles techniques du vehicule precedent, a tenir sa boisson preferee, a finir son som tam a telephoner, a tenir le BB a tenir le 3ieme sac de riz a dire bonjour au Farang (reserver aux charmantes Lady bar) a tenir l ombrelle ou le parasol (suivant saison) a tenir le casque les jours de grand vent ou au croisement avec un camion/toupie et pour la version campagne faire le menage nasal
s applique aussi pour le retro/salon de beaute
Khun Robert
Ca me fait penser a un autre, toujours sur la bouffe, les thais détestent:
qu'il n' y ait qu'un seul plat (a part le riz) sur la table, donc on oublie le repas "a la francaise" (entrée, plat principal, dessert....le fromage, on oublie aussi), il faut qu'il y ait au moins de la soupe, de la viande, du poisson ou des fruits de mer, des fruits, un minimum d'épices, des légumes, salade et autres plantes bizarres que les thais grignotent et dont on ne connait pas le nom et j'en passe et j'en oublie 😉
PS. Sur ce bonap a tous, je me suis donnée faim et vais grignoter une (ou plusieurs) graine 😛
PS. Sur ce bonap a tous, je me suis donnée faim et vais grignoter une (ou plusieurs) graine 😛
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
a tenir le casque les jours de grand vent ou au croisement avec un camion/toupie
🙂🙂🙂🙂
Cà, çà m'a toujours fait rire ...
Le plus dur c'était d'expliquer pourquoi, après (du genre s'il/elle tombe, qui c'est qui tient le casque ?)
🙂🙂🙂🙂
Cà, çà m'a toujours fait rire ...
Le plus dur c'était d'expliquer pourquoi, après (du genre s'il/elle tombe, qui c'est qui tient le casque ?)
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
évidement les pieds ont une symbolique pour le peuple thaï.
les pieds sont la partie du corps la plus basse, donc inférieur. designer une personne avec les pieds ou bien toucher la tête d'un thaï avec les pieds et un préjudice qui peut entrainer des désagréments..... AIE AIE AIE d'ailleurs les thaïlandais ont tendance a cacher leurs pieds lorsqu'ils s'assoient.
a contrario, la tête et la partie la plus haute, donc supérieur.
de même, le fait d'ôter ses chaussures lorsque l'on entre dans une maison, un temple, etc.... est lie au fait que énormément de geste de la vie courante se font a même le sol. a cet effet le sol est lavé quotidiennement et les thaï apprécient pour des raisons culturelles mais également climatiques de passer du temps a même le sol qui est pour la plus part du temps carrelé donc très frais.
la plupart des enfant en bas-age font la sieste sur une simple couverture a même le sol. culturellement le peuple thaïlandais n'a pas les mêmes critères de confort que les occidentaux. etc etc etc 😉
jakikosensei
héhéhéhéhéhéhé merci beaucoup thuan, très intéressent, d'autres exemples scientifiques seraient les biens venu. 🙂
jakikosensei
Les moustiques !
Pas du tout 🙁 comment crois-tu que Srichaphan soit devenu champion? grace a ses amis les moustiques, the best sparring partners in tennis 😛 (voir photos ci-jointes 😉) 😄😏😏😇
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Robert,
Que tu sois résident ou visiteur, le thai ne te connaissant pas perso te vois exactement de la même façon. Tu es un farang ! point.
FAUX .. Il n'y a rien de plus FAUX...Hallucinant de lire des trucs pareils.😕
Que tu sois résident ou visiteur, le thai ne te connaissant pas perso te vois exactement de la même façon. Tu es un farang ! point.
FAUX .. Il n'y a rien de plus FAUX...Hallucinant de lire des trucs pareils.😕
Sur l'arbre qui donne des pommes il n'y a pas de citrons...
bonjour.
il ya fort longtemp que je vous lis et je vous remercie tous pour toutes les infos utiles que j'ai collecter grace a vous.
je me suis finnalement inscris et c'est mon premier message.
j'ai lu avec interet un message résent qui traitai des bonnes manière a avoir vis a vis des thais, pour pas avoir l'air d'un mal eduqué.
pouvez vous svp m'en dire plus sur ce que detestes le peuple thai au regard des touristes?
merci. Raoul
Ce que deteste le plus un(e) Thai(e), sa punition supreme ..Qu'il soit oblige de travailler SEUL..horreur 🤪
NTT😉
Ce que deteste le plus un(e) Thai(e), sa punition supreme ..Qu'il soit oblige de travailler SEUL..horreur 🤪
NTT😉
Sur l'arbre qui donne des pommes il n'y a pas de citrons...
C'est fait 😉
on va te surnomer le Colombo de VF a ta decharge c est vrai que c est une femme de caractere
Ma femme
on va te surnomer le Colombo de VF a ta decharge c est vrai que c est une femme de caractere
Ma femme
@+
Thibaut
C'est d'ailleurs un peu surprenant la première fois qu'on commande une entrée et un plat en Thaïlande qu'on vous apporte tout en même temps.... Mais bon, on comprends vite leur façon de faire.
PS: Pour le formage, il y a des exceptions..... Il suffit d'oser essayer pour en faire des adeptes.
Ca me fait penser a un autre, toujours sur la bouffe, les thais détestent: qu'il n' y ait qu'un seul plat (a part le riz) sur la table, donc on oublie le repas "a la francaise" (entrée, plat principal, dessert....le fromage, on oublie aussi)
Ca me fait penser a un autre, toujours sur la bouffe, les thais détestent: qu'il n' y ait qu'un seul plat (a part le riz) sur la table, donc on oublie le repas "a la francaise" (entrée, plat principal, dessert....le fromage, on oublie aussi)
@+
Thibaut
Robert,
Que tu sois résident ou visiteur, le thai ne te connaissant pas perso te vois exactement de la même façon. Tu es un farang ! point.
FAUX .. Il n'y a rien de plus FAUX...Hallucinant de lire des trucs pareils.😕
M.Yama ignore certainement que les farangs résidents ont un tatouage en langue Thaï sur le front qui les distinguent très nettement des farangs touristes.🙁
Que tu sois résident ou visiteur, le thai ne te connaissant pas perso te vois exactement de la même façon. Tu es un farang ! point.
FAUX .. Il n'y a rien de plus FAUX...Hallucinant de lire des trucs pareils.😕
M.Yama ignore certainement que les farangs résidents ont un tatouage en langue Thaï sur le front qui les distinguent très nettement des farangs touristes.🙁
On avait compris 😏. y'a des observations de Yama comme ca, amusantes ..Si tu es un farang tu ne peut etre qu'un farang, a moins que ....😮. Et penbopen en rajoute pour illustrer ..MDR..
Sur l'arbre qui donne des pommes il n'y a pas de citrons...
On avait compris 😏.
Hallucinant de lire des trucs pareils 😏😏😏
Hallucinant de lire des trucs pareils 😏😏😏
Les choses evidentes et les idees simples sont en fait les plus difficiles a saisir du fait de la complexite extreme de notre mental.
😉
😉
FAUX .. Il n'y a rien de plus FAUX...Hallucinant de lire des trucs pareils.😕
Très cher Docteur ès Thailande...puis-je te suggérer de prendre un peu sur ton temps hallucinatoire, en vue de la lecture des messages voire de leur compréhension ( oui, tout peut arriver...).
Je dirais "VRAI...il n'y a rien de plus VRAI..."
N'en déplaise à ton égo d'expat, tu auras beau plisser tes yeux, un thai ne te prendra jamais pour un thai !
Et, les seuls qui ne te verront pas comme un touriste, ce sont les thais qui te connaissent. Pour les autres, c'est à dire 99;99% de la population tu resteras ad vitam aeternam, un "simple farang", et ô combien "tamada" !
Comment peux-tu imaginer qu'un thai ne te connaissant pas, puisse te percevoir différemment ? et, en plus, tu fais le gars qui a tout comris et qui ironise ?
Donc, si les thais pensaient que nous "polluons" leur pays, tu ferais partie intégrante des "déchets polluants", mon brave. Mais, fort heureusement, ce genre de propos ne sort que de la bouche de pauvres blancs qui en font trop et oublient qui ils sont. Je n'ai pas encore entendu un seul thai "cracher dans la soupe" du tourisme.
Très cher Docteur ès Thailande...puis-je te suggérer de prendre un peu sur ton temps hallucinatoire, en vue de la lecture des messages voire de leur compréhension ( oui, tout peut arriver...).
Je dirais "VRAI...il n'y a rien de plus VRAI..."
N'en déplaise à ton égo d'expat, tu auras beau plisser tes yeux, un thai ne te prendra jamais pour un thai !
Et, les seuls qui ne te verront pas comme un touriste, ce sont les thais qui te connaissent. Pour les autres, c'est à dire 99;99% de la population tu resteras ad vitam aeternam, un "simple farang", et ô combien "tamada" !
Comment peux-tu imaginer qu'un thai ne te connaissant pas, puisse te percevoir différemment ? et, en plus, tu fais le gars qui a tout comris et qui ironise ?
Donc, si les thais pensaient que nous "polluons" leur pays, tu ferais partie intégrante des "déchets polluants", mon brave. Mais, fort heureusement, ce genre de propos ne sort que de la bouche de pauvres blancs qui en font trop et oublient qui ils sont. Je n'ai pas encore entendu un seul thai "cracher dans la soupe" du tourisme.
yama
L'homme a trois coeurs. Le premier tout le monde le connait. Le second, seuls ses amis le connaissent. Le troisième ? c'est le vrai, le sien. (Proverbe Japonais)
L'homme a trois coeurs. Le premier tout le monde le connait. Le second, seuls ses amis le connaissent. Le troisième ? c'est le vrai, le sien. (Proverbe Japonais)
M.Yama, votre discours enflammé va susciter une réaction volcanique, voyez comment mon humour osé a été perçu !!
Chok dee krap
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Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.









