Vietnam: champion de l'optimisme
by Kimtwo
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
C est pour rire !!!
je cite encore des motifs d 'optimisme :😏😏
(pas contre vous ):
- j halliday va mieux - le foot ball va mieux on a un nouveau entraineur - il y a de plus en plus de gens soumis a lIDF(c est vrai) - on a aux "prime times à l a tv que des émissions éducatives très intéressantes ! ( d'ailleurs le vn en copie) - plus de 80 °/°de reusite au bac et après ils feront bac plus 5 et seront la plupert embauchés dans la plus grande entreprise : le Pole d emploi - on ajoute le nombre des années à la vie ( pas le contraire ) - les acquis sociaux acquis graces aux luttes diminuent ( certains acquis doivent etre revus je conçois), la classe moyenne disparait progressivement , c est la seule qu on peut encore presser !!! SANS renier votre liste qui font envier les étrangers , les français sont en ce moment plutot moroses ( terme utilisé par notre grand GENERAL) bcp de ces belles choses risquent de disparaitre , c est l une des raisons de l inquiétude des français sur leur avenir : d 'ou le pessimisme ambiante !!! je ne sais pas si vous avez des enfants j ai de l inquiétude pour eux!!! cordialement ces qqs constatations c 'est pour rire mais dans l 'ensemble la france a encore des forces nous avons besoin de dirigeants nouveaux qui nous donnent un souffle nouveau , pas des disputes g d plutot pour amuser les gens !!!!'c est comme changer l'entraineur de foot ) cordialement et bonne année au VN VZ
- j halliday va mieux - le foot ball va mieux on a un nouveau entraineur - il y a de plus en plus de gens soumis a lIDF(c est vrai) - on a aux "prime times à l a tv que des émissions éducatives très intéressantes ! ( d'ailleurs le vn en copie) - plus de 80 °/°de reusite au bac et après ils feront bac plus 5 et seront la plupert embauchés dans la plus grande entreprise : le Pole d emploi - on ajoute le nombre des années à la vie ( pas le contraire ) - les acquis sociaux acquis graces aux luttes diminuent ( certains acquis doivent etre revus je conçois), la classe moyenne disparait progressivement , c est la seule qu on peut encore presser !!! SANS renier votre liste qui font envier les étrangers , les français sont en ce moment plutot moroses ( terme utilisé par notre grand GENERAL) bcp de ces belles choses risquent de disparaitre , c est l une des raisons de l inquiétude des français sur leur avenir : d 'ou le pessimisme ambiante !!! je ne sais pas si vous avez des enfants j ai de l inquiétude pour eux!!! cordialement ces qqs constatations c 'est pour rire mais dans l 'ensemble la france a encore des forces nous avons besoin de dirigeants nouveaux qui nous donnent un souffle nouveau , pas des disputes g d plutot pour amuser les gens !!!!'c est comme changer l'entraineur de foot ) cordialement et bonne année au VN VZ
Une démocratie vivante
Une vraie qualité de vie
L’accès aux soins pour tous
Des services publics encore performants
Des aides importantes aux familles
Un système éducatif solide
La gastronomie, un art de vivre
Une vie associative dynamique
Une protection sociale efficace
Un climat béni des dieux
Des infrastructures de qualité
Une offre culturelle pléthorique
Des champions nationaux musclés
Un culte des vacances
Un pouvoir d’achat en progression régulière
La France a donc perdu la raison🙂
Et les français sont pessimistes avec ça. Vous êtes vraiment malade!
La France a donc perdu la raison🙂
Et les français sont pessimistes avec ça. Vous êtes vraiment malade!
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Et les français sont pessimistes avec ça. Vous êtes vraiment malade!
Pourquoi un tel denie d identite ? Pourquoi renier etre Francais ? Avez vous honte d etre Francais ? Dans ce cas pourquoi ne pas quitter un pays que l on aime pas ? Pourquoi ne vivez vous au Vietnam votre soi disant pays ?
C est etrange comme comportement.
Pourquoi un tel denie d identite ? Pourquoi renier etre Francais ? Avez vous honte d etre Francais ? Dans ce cas pourquoi ne pas quitter un pays que l on aime pas ? Pourquoi ne vivez vous au Vietnam votre soi disant pays ?
C est etrange comme comportement.
Une démocratie vivante : ça veut dire quoi ?
Une vraie qualité de vie: NON
L’accès aux soins pour tous : voire
Des services publics encore performants : pas du tout voir les derniers problèmes
Des aides importantes aux familles - pas toutes
Un système éducatif solide :bof
La gastronomie, un art de vivre - peut-être
Une vie associative dynamique peut-être
Une protection sociale efficace-ça dépend pour qui
Un climat béni des dieux - ah non !!!
Des infrastructures de qualité - ah?
Une offre culturelle pléthorique - zéro
Des champions nationaux musclés -oui
Un culte des vacances - oui
Un pouvoir d’achat en progression régulière : en progression inverse
Ca, c'est pour la France -!!!!
Ca, c'est pour la France -!!!!
Le vent et les turbulences sont l'oeuvre de Dieu, mais la voile et le gouvernail nous appartiennent..
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Cela serait bien d etayer vos propos.
Par exemple a "vraie qualite de vie" vous assignez un gros non. Pourquoi.
Pourquoi
Une offre culturelle pléthorique - zéro
?
On aimerait en savoir plus.
Par exemple a "vraie qualite de vie" vous assignez un gros non. Pourquoi.
Pourquoi
Une offre culturelle pléthorique - zéro
?
On aimerait en savoir plus.
Avez vous honte d etre Francais ?
Il n'y a que les Français qui peuvent être honteux d'être français🙂
Il n'y a que les Français qui peuvent être honteux d'être français🙂
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Avez vous honte d etre Francais ?
il est impossible qu'abalone soit français 😏
il est impossible qu'abalone soit français 😏
Donc vous etes bien Francais.
Je ne vois pas pourquoi vous n assumez pas. Et pourquoi donc vous ne vivez pas au Vietnam, que vous cherissez tant, mais en France sur laquelle vous crachez sans arret ?
Je ne vois pas pourquoi vous n assumez pas. Et pourquoi donc vous ne vivez pas au Vietnam, que vous cherissez tant, mais en France sur laquelle vous crachez sans arret ?
Donc vous etes bien Francais.
Je ne vois pas pourquoi vous n assumez pas. Et pourquoi donc vous ne vivez pas au Vietnam, que vous cherissez tant, mais en France sur laquelle vous crachez sans arret ?
Tout ce que vous affirmez est faux🙂
Je ne vois pas pourquoi vous n assumez pas. Et pourquoi donc vous ne vivez pas au Vietnam, que vous cherissez tant, mais en France sur laquelle vous crachez sans arret ?
Tout ce que vous affirmez est faux🙂
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Bonjour,
Pour moi, la "qualité de vie" c'est une vie quotidienne qui se passe sans accroc majeur: lorsqu'on a fait tout ce qu'il faut pour garantir sa vie, vis à vis de sa famille, vis à vis de ses responsabilités, de ses prévisions de tous poils en matière d'avenir.. il ne faudrait pas se retrouver avec toutes ces "obligations" de faire ci ou plutôt de ne pas faire ça : des petites tracasseries, généralement administratives, mais pas toujours, qui vous hachent la qualité de vie et qui fait que beaucoup de français sont sous relaxants - franchement ça pourrait être évité si on ne se heurtait pas plusieurs fois par jour à des rebuffades, à de nouveaux règlements , embouteillages, retards répétés dans les transports , etc...ce qui fait que sans vouloir plagier "la vie n'est pas un long fleuve tranquille" - c'est fatigant, c'est récurrent : hormis peut-être les week-ends, on n'a pas de plage de repos sans souci - non , je m'excuse de confirmer mon avis, qui n'est que le mien je précise bien, la qualité de vie en France n'est pas bonne - peut-être la trouvais-je plus médiocre qu'elle n'est parce que j'ai la chance de vivre au Vietnam de nombreux mois, mais franchement je vois une grosse différence entre ce que je vis là-bas et ce que je subis ici -
Je ne cherche pas la polémique, je ne livre que mon ressenti personnel -
Pour ce qui concerne la culture ??? - eh bien je dis ce que je dis : nous ne sommes pas dans le siècle des Lumières et je ne pense pas qu'il restera grand chose à apprendre sur notre époque à nos petits ou arrière-petit-enfants
Cordialement - Kimtwo -
Pour moi, la "qualité de vie" c'est une vie quotidienne qui se passe sans accroc majeur: lorsqu'on a fait tout ce qu'il faut pour garantir sa vie, vis à vis de sa famille, vis à vis de ses responsabilités, de ses prévisions de tous poils en matière d'avenir.. il ne faudrait pas se retrouver avec toutes ces "obligations" de faire ci ou plutôt de ne pas faire ça : des petites tracasseries, généralement administratives, mais pas toujours, qui vous hachent la qualité de vie et qui fait que beaucoup de français sont sous relaxants - franchement ça pourrait être évité si on ne se heurtait pas plusieurs fois par jour à des rebuffades, à de nouveaux règlements , embouteillages, retards répétés dans les transports , etc...ce qui fait que sans vouloir plagier "la vie n'est pas un long fleuve tranquille" - c'est fatigant, c'est récurrent : hormis peut-être les week-ends, on n'a pas de plage de repos sans souci - non , je m'excuse de confirmer mon avis, qui n'est que le mien je précise bien, la qualité de vie en France n'est pas bonne - peut-être la trouvais-je plus médiocre qu'elle n'est parce que j'ai la chance de vivre au Vietnam de nombreux mois, mais franchement je vois une grosse différence entre ce que je vis là-bas et ce que je subis ici -
Je ne cherche pas la polémique, je ne livre que mon ressenti personnel -
Pour ce qui concerne la culture ??? - eh bien je dis ce que je dis : nous ne sommes pas dans le siècle des Lumières et je ne pense pas qu'il restera grand chose à apprendre sur notre époque à nos petits ou arrière-petit-enfants
Cordialement - Kimtwo -
Le vent et les turbulences sont l'oeuvre de Dieu, mais la voile et le gouvernail nous appartiennent..
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
heurtait pas plusieurs fois par jour à des rebuffades, à de nouveaux règlements , embouteillages, retards répétés dans les transports
Vous parlez du Vietnam ou de la France ?
Si l offre culturelle en France c est zero, alors au Vietnam c est quoi ?
Quant a Abalone a force de venir en vacances au Vietnam et bien nous connaissons mutuellement certaines personnes. Vous etes bien Francais, cela a ete confirme.
N ayez pas honte c est beau la France.
Vous parlez du Vietnam ou de la France ?
Si l offre culturelle en France c est zero, alors au Vietnam c est quoi ?
Quant a Abalone a force de venir en vacances au Vietnam et bien nous connaissons mutuellement certaines personnes. Vous etes bien Francais, cela a ete confirme.
N ayez pas honte c est beau la France.
Bonjour Me Trotinette,
On est en train de discuter sur l optimisme des vietnamiens ...et hop vous changer de sujet à savoir " Etude comparative entre la FRANCE et le VN"
Mais quelle idée de vouloir comparer la FRANCE 5è ou 6è ou 7è ou 8è puisance mondiale (je suis perdu vu la rapidité des changements )au petit VN au delà du 120è au classement ???
l optimisme du VN est la résultante des changements survenus dans ce pays
Dans un passé pas si lointain que çà qqsoit le régime nationaliste royaoliste communiste , à des degré divers :pour le peuple vietnamien :
survivre à la guerre , voir leur enfants grandir ( les guerres ont emporté pratiquement tous mes amis d enfance!!
rationnement alimentaire ( meme chez nous jusqu en début 50 )
avoir le ventre plein, c est un problème
se mouvoir dans le pays à sa guise (c 'est soumis aux autorisations avant 1993 avril exactement ) et c'est dur l autorisation et il y a bien des raisonsà celà .
aller à l école c est difficile (pas assez de sous ) ou pas d'école du tout
s inscrire à l université c est pas possiblble si vos parents étaient liés à l ancienne régime
vouloir se loger ou l on veut : pas possible
liberté de culte surveilléé , maintenant non
reunion pas possible , parler à un étranger c est pas conseillé
et j en passe .......
bcp de choses ont changé dans la mentalité des gens et meme les gens qui partaient comme boat poeple reviennent au pays
certes bcp de domaines sont encore soumis à des restristions mais les évènements récentsnous laissent penser que la libéralisation gagnera ces domaines !!!ce qui expliquerait l' optimisme des vietnamiens, car , contrairement à nous ils vivent les changements !!!!
mais pourquoi certains se polarisent sur ABALONE , il défend bien ou mal ses idées ( je ne prétends pas etre son avocat , d ailleurs il ne me le demande pas et j'ai pas le CAPA ni inscrit au barreau😏😏😏
je suis sur que vous avez de bonnes idées sur le pourquoi et le comment de l'optomisme vn alors venez discuter avec nous , nous éclairer avec argumentations bien sur !!!
ABALONE est -il français ou non qu'il a des yeux bleus , verts , marrons , gris , qu il soit beau , moche , petit nain ou géant , chauve ou poilu , édenté ou non , 😏😏😏 peu importe !!dans bien de domaines avec d autres il est très utile sur ce forum)😏
merci de me lire et bonne année
VZ
VZ
ABALONE est -il français ou non qu'il a des yeux bleus , verts , marrons , gris , qu il soit beau , moche , petit nain ou géant , chauve ou poilu , édenté ou non , 😏😏😏 peu importe !!dans bien de domaines avec d autres il est très utile sur ce forum)
Quand on n'a plus d'argument ni d'idées, on s'attaque à la personne.
Ma personne n'a aucune importance. J'ai toutes les facettes attribuées par les court-d'idées, les sans-idées, les malades et les fous🙂
Quand on n'a plus d'argument ni d'idées, on s'attaque à la personne.
Ma personne n'a aucune importance. J'ai toutes les facettes attribuées par les court-d'idées, les sans-idées, les malades et les fous🙂
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Salut
je n ai aucune espece d'animosité contre vous ni Abalone
Vous qui habitez au VN et qui ont des appréciations négatives sur ce pays ( qui est aussi celui de votre femme !) vous posez la question pourquoi ABALONE ne rentre pas au VN ?? vous oubliez peut etre qu' il peut aussi vous poser la question similaire dans l autre sens
je pense que vous aimez tous les 2 votre pays d accueil, vous avez contre votre pays d acceuil certains avis défavorables !!!partir c est pas si facile que çà!!! c est comme si l'on a des reproches (fondées ou non sur sa ou son compagne ) on la , le quitte illico!!!!😏😏🏴☠️
Mais c est pas si simple que çà , c est vrai , sans enfants sans famille on est pas content " je m en vais comme disait notre cher CANTONA " à force de vivre dans un pays on s y attache on a des amis de la famille ETC ....on peut bien vendre son pavillon et partir avec 1 valise etfaire sa vie ailleurs mais vendre ses gosses ses amis ce n ' est pas concevable
Meme avec un détachant superpuissant on efface pas les souvenirs qui ont forgé notre histoire personnelle
personnellement je ne fais seuleument des reproches qu 'à ceux écoeurés par des expériences malheureuses ( avec une femme , une affaire ou arnaquées par des voyous (et oui çà exite au vn et qui aveuglés par ces expériences traumatisantes en veulent à tous les vniens sans exception
PS votre histoire me fait rappeler , qu à l époque de la guerre US -VN certains de mes compatriotes , sachant que je suis contre la guerre , me reprochent pourquoi je ne rentre pas au vn pour rejoindre les maquisards
alors qu eux fuient la guerre par crainte d etre enrolés dans l armee du sud . on est devenus amis actuellement et rigolent en repensant à notre ancienne dispute
VZ
Bonjour à tous,
Ce message n'est pas pour Kimtow principalement, c'est tout simplement ma contribution à tous les précédents posts....
Moi, je dirais tout simplement :
MEDIAS ET TELEVISION : INFORMATION ou DESINFORMATION ????? Chacun choisit. Nous ne sommes pas obligés de tout "gober" ce qu'ils nous racontent. Malheureusement, c'est ce qui se passe pour une grande partie de la population !!!! et c'est bien dommage !!!!
En ce qui concerne la joie de vivre de nos Aînés, oui, ils l'avaient cette joie de vivre. Ils n'avaient pas de radio (ou peu), pas de télévision, pas d'internet, pas de mobile, pas de...., pas de ....
Ils jouaient aux cartes, racontaient des histoires aux enfants et petits-enfants, sortaient aux bals entre amis.....(Après tous les malheurs de la guerre, l'avenir était devant eux)....
Maintenant, on a tout, tout, tout.... et on se dit : "mais qu'est-ce qui nous manque????" et je pense qu'on ne trouve pas la réponse donc, on s'ennuie, on a peur de l'avenir, on achète, on revend....consommation.... consommation.... (pas beau du tout !!!!). Et là, on parle de pessismisme....
Je ne parle pas de moi car je ne suis pas comme ça mais c'est un état de fait que nous constatons tous les jours autour de nous.
Donc, il faut aller de l'avant et sortir, bouger, sourire !!!!! et essayer de changer tout ça !!!! c'est mon avis c'est tout....
Mavn
P.S. Attention, je n'ai pas dit que je voudrais revenir 60 ans en arrière !!!!!😉😉😉 quoique pour certaines valeurs, pourquoi pas !!!!😉😉😉
Ce message n'est pas pour Kimtow principalement, c'est tout simplement ma contribution à tous les précédents posts....
Moi, je dirais tout simplement :
MEDIAS ET TELEVISION : INFORMATION ou DESINFORMATION ????? Chacun choisit. Nous ne sommes pas obligés de tout "gober" ce qu'ils nous racontent. Malheureusement, c'est ce qui se passe pour une grande partie de la population !!!! et c'est bien dommage !!!!
En ce qui concerne la joie de vivre de nos Aînés, oui, ils l'avaient cette joie de vivre. Ils n'avaient pas de radio (ou peu), pas de télévision, pas d'internet, pas de mobile, pas de...., pas de ....
Ils jouaient aux cartes, racontaient des histoires aux enfants et petits-enfants, sortaient aux bals entre amis.....(Après tous les malheurs de la guerre, l'avenir était devant eux)....
Maintenant, on a tout, tout, tout.... et on se dit : "mais qu'est-ce qui nous manque????" et je pense qu'on ne trouve pas la réponse donc, on s'ennuie, on a peur de l'avenir, on achète, on revend....consommation.... consommation.... (pas beau du tout !!!!). Et là, on parle de pessismisme....
Je ne parle pas de moi car je ne suis pas comme ça mais c'est un état de fait que nous constatons tous les jours autour de nous.
Donc, il faut aller de l'avant et sortir, bouger, sourire !!!!! et essayer de changer tout ça !!!! c'est mon avis c'est tout....
Mavn
P.S. Attention, je n'ai pas dit que je voudrais revenir 60 ans en arrière !!!!!😉😉😉 quoique pour certaines valeurs, pourquoi pas !!!!😉😉😉
Chacun choisit. Nous ne sommes pas obligés de tout "gober" ce qu'ils nous racontent. Malheureusement, c'est ce qui se passe pour une grande partie de la population !!!! et c'est bien dommage !!!!
Le problème c'est qu'il ne faut pas trop essayer de dialoguer philosophiquement sur ce forum.
C'est toujours un prétexte pour des trolls endormis de se réveiller🙂
Le problème c'est qu'il ne faut pas trop essayer de dialoguer philosophiquement sur ce forum.
C'est toujours un prétexte pour des trolls endormis de se réveiller🙂
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Oh oui..... désolée, je n'y avais pas pensé...... on verra bien....😉
Je voudrais ajouter ceci : il faut avoir des projets ; toujours avoir des projets (par exemple un petit voyage.... au Vietnam....). Sans projet c'est la porte ouverte à la morosité, à l'ennui, au pessismisme !!!!!!🙁🙁🙁🙁
Je voudrais ajouter ceci : il faut avoir des projets ; toujours avoir des projets (par exemple un petit voyage.... au Vietnam....). Sans projet c'est la porte ouverte à la morosité, à l'ennui, au pessismisme !!!!!!🙁🙁🙁🙁
Et les français sont pessimistes avec ça. Vous êtes vraiment malade!
😏😏😏😏😏 A se demander comment il est possible qu'ils fassent trois grèves par semaine et râlent du matin au soir et du soir au matin (oui, même en dormant, ils râlent !)
😏😏😏😏😏 A se demander comment il est possible qu'ils fassent trois grèves par semaine et râlent du matin au soir et du soir au matin (oui, même en dormant, ils râlent !)
Je voudrais ajouter ceci : il faut avoir des projets ; toujours avoir des projets (par exemple un petit voyage.... au Vietnam....). Sans projet c'est la porte ouverte à la morosité, à l'ennui, au pessismisme !!!!!!🙁🙁🙁🙁
Ah Marie Ange,
Que de points communs !!! c'est ça qui doit nous "booster" en avant !!!😄😄
Merci de l'avoir dit -
Kimtwo
Ah Marie Ange,
Que de points communs !!! c'est ça qui doit nous "booster" en avant !!!😄😄
Merci de l'avoir dit -
Kimtwo
Le vent et les turbulences sont l'oeuvre de Dieu, mais la voile et le gouvernail nous appartiennent..
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
vous avez contre votre pays d acceuil certains avis défavorables
Bien sur car tout n est pas parfait. Et j en fait part et dis ce que je pense reellement. Je suis pas comme certains ancree dans la desinformation et la beatitude exacerbee.
Je n ai rien de special contre quelqu un mais je pense qu il faut arreter de cracher sur la France, de nier son identite et d idealiser a outrance le Vietnam.
Bien sur car tout n est pas parfait. Et j en fait part et dis ce que je pense reellement. Je suis pas comme certains ancree dans la desinformation et la beatitude exacerbee.
Je n ai rien de special contre quelqu un mais je pense qu il faut arreter de cracher sur la France, de nier son identite et d idealiser a outrance le Vietnam.
Les quinze raisons d'être optimiste en France :Une démocratie vivante
Mais qu'est-ce que tu f... encore au Viet Nam ?????
Mais qu'est-ce que tu f... encore au Viet Nam ?????
Pourquoi la France n est pas un pays democratique ?
Mais qu'est-ce que tu f... encore au Viet Nam ?????
Je vois pas le rapport. Je reprend un article de France Soir pour contre balancer un peu aux critiques faites a la France. C est pas moi qui l a ecrit.
Mais qu'est-ce que tu f... encore au Viet Nam ?????
Je vois pas le rapport. Je reprend un article de France Soir pour contre balancer un peu aux critiques faites a la France. C est pas moi qui l a ecrit.
Mais qu'est-ce que tu f... encore au Viet Nam ?????
Pour servir les intérêts de la France et des Français🙂
Pour servir les intérêts de la France et des Français🙂
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
bonjour Mr MAVN,
Justement vous avez remarqué sur le fait que bcp de choses ont changés au VN tant sur le plan spirituel que sur le plan matériel restons sur le plan matériel:
nous avons connu , en FRANCE cette période , ou , sortis de la guerre nous tombons sur les trentes glorieuses :
la 2CV , la tv , la tsf , la résidence secondaire etc ... un vent de bien etre et donc l optimisme !!!
au VN c est pareil : l éruption de la société de consommation comme vous dites , pire, cela se fait bcp plus rapidement par exple au VN on passe directement au telephone portable par les écrans plats , ils sautent pratiquement l etape cassettes VHS aux magnetoscopes des appareils photos optiques à L APN les gens sont éblouis par ces merveilles techniques et surtout ces choses leurs sont accessibles " travailler plus pour consommer plus " çà doit etre leur mot d ordre !!!!
bientot ce sera un signe de richesse ou du moins de snobisme de circuler à 2 roues bicyclettes !!!😏😏
Bien sur il y a un bemol à tout çà comme nous en France on est victime des choses artificielles qui vont supplanter nos joie de vivre naturellement du passé sans etre conditionnés par l industrie du "pousse à comsommer"
Cependant , force de constater que les vniens , pas différents des français sont optimistes je respecte leur optimisme et je dois le respecter !!!mais est ce le bonheur véritable !!Peut etre un jour ils se réveilleront comme nous en découvrant les méfaits de la société moderne basée sur l'envie sans fin de consommer car enfait c 'est une drogue !!et ce drogue n a pas de remède !! car elle s 'améliore tout le temps !! des psychologues sont payés pour étudier et parametrer nos cerveaux dans ce sens🏴☠️
meme si vous voulez seulement un telephone pour appeler ou recevoir les appels ( c 'est quand meme pratique)
il n en existe pas sans ap photo , mp3 mp4 'vidéo jeux camescope incorporé etc .😏😏
un appareil photo tout simple ??? c est quoi çà??😏
..
donc vous ne pouvez pas rester simple !!!😏
au fait je sors du sujet : les vniens sont optimistes !! il n y a rien à dire c est un constat chaque pays a sa période d euphorie nous on l a eue pourquoi pas les autres 😏😏😏
VZ
Pour servir les intérêts de la France et des Français
Vous pouvez developper ?
Vous pouvez developper ?
Bonjour,
Juste 2 petits mots. Pas MR mais MME (rire....). Ce n'est pas grave...😉
Je vous rejoins sur beaucoup de points dans votre post.
Malheureusement, qu'on le veuille ou non, on est tous pris au piège de la consommation frénétique... plus...., toujours plus.... bien entendu selon ses moyens financiers, quoique, lorsque l'on voit toutes les offres de crédits qui "déboulent" dans la boite aux lettres !!!!! on comprend pourquoi il y a tant de surendettés !!!!! (là on sort du sujet.... donc j'arrête....). Où sont nos bonnes et vieilles valeurs !!!!! 😉🙁😉
Juste 2 petits mots. Pas MR mais MME (rire....). Ce n'est pas grave...😉
Je vous rejoins sur beaucoup de points dans votre post.
Malheureusement, qu'on le veuille ou non, on est tous pris au piège de la consommation frénétique... plus...., toujours plus.... bien entendu selon ses moyens financiers, quoique, lorsque l'on voit toutes les offres de crédits qui "déboulent" dans la boite aux lettres !!!!! on comprend pourquoi il y a tant de surendettés !!!!! (là on sort du sujet.... donc j'arrête....). Où sont nos bonnes et vieilles valeurs !!!!! 😉🙁😉
OH là vous mes 2 chers !!!!!
Si çà continue je vais prendre 200 doliprane d un seul coup!!!🏴☠️
ce sera votre faute de provoquer ma mort!!! 😏😏
et je ne saurai pas si je meurs pour la FRANCE ou le VIETNAM
d ailleurs je ne mangerai plus ni COURGETTE ni ABALONE !!:!😏😏
mais avant de mourir permettez moi de crier fort
VIVE la FRANCE !!
VIVE le VIETNAM !!!
Voyage "zen ??????""
Voyage "zen ??????""
Ah, un peu d'humour............... ça fait du bien !!!!!
C'est ça la zenattitude ???????????????😉😉😉😉
Moi aussi, je dis comme vous :
VIVE LA FRANCE et VIVE LE VIETNAM !!!!!!
C'est ça la zenattitude ???????????????😉😉😉😉
Moi aussi, je dis comme vous :
VIVE LA FRANCE et VIVE LE VIETNAM !!!!!!
Où sont nos bonnes et vieilles valeurs !!!!! 😉🙁😉
Pardonner à ceux qui nous ont offensé🙂
Pardonner à ceux qui nous ont offensé🙂
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
ça me rappelle quelque chose.....😉
Mr MAVN ,
En lisant votre réponse , je renonce à prendre 200comprimés de dolipane !!
merci et mille merci
au fait j ai oublié de vous présenter mes meilleurs voeux pour 2011
puisque vous etes au vn
"chuc ong dau nam con trai cuoi nam con gai "
au milieu faites ce qui vs plait mais attention à votre chérie , si vous etes marié à une vietnamienne gare à vous !!!!😏😏elles sont en meme tendres et féroces les vniennes
VZ
NON, pas MR mais MME. Donc, pour ce qui est de "ma chérie" je ne pense pas...... (rire....)
Je suis en France et non au Vietnam.
Recevez, vous aussi, mes meilleurs voeux pour 2011.
Sans rancune😉😉😉😉😉
Je suis en France et non au Vietnam.
Recevez, vous aussi, mes meilleurs voeux pour 2011.
Sans rancune😉😉😉😉😉
Vous pouvez developper ?
A quoi sert de développer pour vous qui n'avez que des opinions arrêtées et des idées stéréotypées🙂
A quoi sert de développer pour vous qui n'avez que des opinions arrêtées et des idées stéréotypées🙂
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Chere Me
C'est la faute de ces deux ABALONE et COURGETTE qui m ont troublé avec leur échange de courtoisie😏😏!!je m imagine comme un spectateur de tennis , à force de tourner la tete à g puis à d puis à gauche , à droite ...à gauche , à droite encore et encore
j espère que vous me comprenez , n est ce pas ???
déjà j ai de l alzeimer qui mattends !!
c est votre pseudo mavn qui contient man qui m a mal orienté §§ encore 1 fois mille excuses !!!
VZ
"C'est la faute de ces deux ABALONE et COURGETTE qui m ont troublé avec leur échange de courtoisie😏😏!!je m imagine comme un spectateur de tennis , à force de tourner la tete à g puis à d puis à gauche , à droite ...à gauche , à droite encore et encore"
Attention à ne pas attraper de torticolis !!!! sinon vous aurez droit aux dolipranes....(mais pas 200 !!!!).😠
Sinon, mon pseudo se termine par vn qui veut dire Vietnam....
Attention à ne pas attraper de torticolis !!!! sinon vous aurez droit aux dolipranes....(mais pas 200 !!!!).😠
Sinon, mon pseudo se termine par vn qui veut dire Vietnam....
à force de tourner la tete à g puis à d puis à gauche , à droite ...à gauche
Tant que cela ne soit pas sous tendu par des machinations politiques qui se pointent, c'est encore supportable.
Suivez mon regard🙂
La guerre est finie, l'autre là qui se couve d'un pseudo très artistique!
Tant que cela ne soit pas sous tendu par des machinations politiques qui se pointent, c'est encore supportable.
Suivez mon regard🙂
La guerre est finie, l'autre là qui se couve d'un pseudo très artistique!
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Marie-Ange,
Avez-vous compris aussi que Voyagezen vous souhaite un garçon au début de l'année et une fille à la fin !!!!!!!!!il me semble que c'est déjà fait !!!😉😉
Avez-vous compris aussi que Voyagezen vous souhaite un garçon au début de l'année et une fille à la fin !!!!!!!!!il me semble que c'est déjà fait !!!😉😉
Le vent et les turbulences sont l'oeuvre de Dieu, mais la voile et le gouvernail nous appartiennent..
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Merci de me faire la traduction ; je le remercie bien mais non j'ai 2 filles qui font ma joie !!!!😉😉😉
Bonne soirée.
M.A.
Bonne soirée.
M.A.
Sans projet c'est la porte ouverte ? la morosit?, ? l'ennui, au pessismisme !!!!!!🙁🙁🙁🙁
Hello Marie Ange,
Je suis enti?rement d'accord avec toi sur ce point. M?me lorsque la vie est difficile et que les portes semblent ferm?es, garder l'espoir de r?aliser un projet, m?me lointain, maintient le moral m?me s'il est souvent d?faillant. Je viens de regarder une pi?ce avec Annie Cordy (belge optimiste de premier ordre, 80 ans et capable encore de tenir seule 1 h 1/2 sur sc?ne), quel beau message pour nous tous ! Et elle termine ses spectacles par la chanson "Ca ira mieux demain"
Bonne soir?e/nuit/journ?e, Pat
Hello Marie Ange,
Je suis enti?rement d'accord avec toi sur ce point. M?me lorsque la vie est difficile et que les portes semblent ferm?es, garder l'espoir de r?aliser un projet, m?me lointain, maintient le moral m?me s'il est souvent d?faillant. Je viens de regarder une pi?ce avec Annie Cordy (belge optimiste de premier ordre, 80 ans et capable encore de tenir seule 1 h 1/2 sur sc?ne), quel beau message pour nous tous ! Et elle termine ses spectacles par la chanson "Ca ira mieux demain"
Bonne soir?e/nuit/journ?e, Pat
+1 - O combien !
Le vent et les turbulences sont l'oeuvre de Dieu, mais la voile et le gouvernail nous appartiennent..
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
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Bonjour,
De Malacca pour rejoindre Jerantut, est-ce préférable de retourner sur KL et d'y prendre un bus ou de prendre un bus pour Tampin et ensuite un train? Des retours sur le "train de la Jungle"? (durée, prix, confort...). Merci
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Bonjour à tous,
Nous partons fin septembre pour Flores, puis Bali,
Nous avons déjà visité les deux mais souhaitons, une fois à Labuan Bajo, partir en bateaux vers les iles Komodo, voir un peu les fameux varans,
Je ne souhaite pas dormir sur le bateau mais faire plutot une visite à la journée,
Quelqu'un aurait il un prestataire sérieux et sympa à nous conseiller,
Merci d'avance et bel été à tous
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.