Boucle de quinze jours: Los Angeles - San Diego - Las Vegas - San Franscisco - Los Angeles
by Fancho29
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
la question du risque de tarifs plus élevés le jeudi soir a été soulevée dans le post en signature,
(réponse : ça dépend si il y a une convention, sinon, non...)
"ce soir là" c'est quel soir exactement ? 😮
Je pense que pour Zion,
si vous ne prévoyez pas de randos,
les principaux points de vue (avec la navette) sont suffisants (voir le site NPS)
(et donc ne nécessite pas spécialement une nuit en plus sur place...) 😉
et une fois qu'on a goûté au "luxe" (c'est relatif) d'un hôtel/casino à Vegas,
c'est difficile d'y résister une seconde fois (pour le même prix d'un hôtel à Springdale...) 😇
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Pour Vegas, s'il n'y a pas de convention, il y aura toujours de la place ! 🙂
Par contre, pour le camping à Zion,
je suppose qu'il faudra se décider assez vite si vous prenez votre emplacement pour une nuit ou 2... 😐
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Je pense qu'on va partir sur la solution 2, ça donnerait donc :
Vendredi 14/09 : Arrivée le soir à 19h à LA Samedi 15/09 : Visite LA Dimanche 16/09 : Universal Studio Lundi 17/09 : Route jusqu'à Cambria (4h) avec halte à Santa Barbara mardi 18/09 : Route via Carmel et Monterey jusqu'à San Francisco (4/5h) Mercredi 19/09 : San Francisco Jeudi 20/09 : Route jusqu'à Yosemite (4h) (Visite San Francisco le matin ?) Vendredi 21/09 : Yosemite Samedi 22/09 : Un peu de Yosemite puis Tiago pass, arrêt en fin de journée dans les "Travertine Hot Springs" ;-) nuit à Bridgeport (2/3h de route en tout) Dimanche 23/09 : Bodie puis Monolake -> Route et un peu de Death Valley en fin de journée (5/6h de route en tout) Lundi 24/09 : Levé de soleil à Zabriskie Point, puis bad water/artists palets puis route jusqu'à Las Vegas (2h30) piscine et visite Mardi 25/09 : route jusqu'à Bryce Canyon (4/5h) (Soit LV le matin ou Bryce Canyon l'après midi) Mercredi 26/09 : Bryce Canyon le matin puis route jusqu'à Zion (2/3h) Jeudi 27/09 : Visite Zion puis route jusqu'à Las vegas (3h) Vendredi 28/09 : Route Vers LA (4h30) Samedi 29/09 : Jour off Dimanche 30/09 : départ à 7h30 le matin.
Reste à réserver les campings et hotels.
Pour Yosemite, je pense que la meilleure solution, pour s'éviter quelques aller-retour, serait de faire Mariposa grove en fin d'aprem le jour de l'arrivée et d'aller dormir au camping de wawona la première nuit. Le lendemain, on ferait Glacier point puis quelques balades dans la vallée, puis nuit dans un des camping de la vallée.
Vendredi 14/09 : Arrivée le soir à 19h à LA Samedi 15/09 : Visite LA Dimanche 16/09 : Universal Studio Lundi 17/09 : Route jusqu'à Cambria (4h) avec halte à Santa Barbara mardi 18/09 : Route via Carmel et Monterey jusqu'à San Francisco (4/5h) Mercredi 19/09 : San Francisco Jeudi 20/09 : Route jusqu'à Yosemite (4h) (Visite San Francisco le matin ?) Vendredi 21/09 : Yosemite Samedi 22/09 : Un peu de Yosemite puis Tiago pass, arrêt en fin de journée dans les "Travertine Hot Springs" ;-) nuit à Bridgeport (2/3h de route en tout) Dimanche 23/09 : Bodie puis Monolake -> Route et un peu de Death Valley en fin de journée (5/6h de route en tout) Lundi 24/09 : Levé de soleil à Zabriskie Point, puis bad water/artists palets puis route jusqu'à Las Vegas (2h30) piscine et visite Mardi 25/09 : route jusqu'à Bryce Canyon (4/5h) (Soit LV le matin ou Bryce Canyon l'après midi) Mercredi 26/09 : Bryce Canyon le matin puis route jusqu'à Zion (2/3h) Jeudi 27/09 : Visite Zion puis route jusqu'à Las vegas (3h) Vendredi 28/09 : Route Vers LA (4h30) Samedi 29/09 : Jour off Dimanche 30/09 : départ à 7h30 le matin.
Reste à réserver les campings et hotels.
Pour Yosemite, je pense que la meilleure solution, pour s'éviter quelques aller-retour, serait de faire Mariposa grove en fin d'aprem le jour de l'arrivée et d'aller dormir au camping de wawona la première nuit. Le lendemain, on ferait Glacier point puis quelques balades dans la vallée, puis nuit dans un des camping de la vallée.
mardi 18/09 : Route via Carmel et Monterey jusqu'à San Francisco (4/5h)
4/5H c'est si vs ne vs arretez pas à CARMEL et MONTEREY. Apres MONTEREY, vs avez 2 routes : la cote (Santa Cruz et tjrs la 1) ou l'autoroute (la 101) par san jose. Attention, la route de la cote est un peu plus longue en temps, et ne vaut pas vraiment le coup quand on a vu la partie entre CAMBRIA et MONTEREY.
Mardi 25/09 : route jusqu'à Bryce Canyon (4/5h) (Soit LV le matin ou Bryce Canyon l'après midi)
LV le matin n'a pas vraiment de Glamour. En plus vs y repassez une seconde nuit plus tard
Pour Yosemite, je pense que la meilleure solution, pour s'éviter quelques aller-retour, serait de faire Mariposa grove en fin d'aprem le jour de l'arrivée et d'aller dormir au camping de wawona la première nuit.
Tres bonne idée
4/5H c'est si vs ne vs arretez pas à CARMEL et MONTEREY. Apres MONTEREY, vs avez 2 routes : la cote (Santa Cruz et tjrs la 1) ou l'autoroute (la 101) par san jose. Attention, la route de la cote est un peu plus longue en temps, et ne vaut pas vraiment le coup quand on a vu la partie entre CAMBRIA et MONTEREY.
Mardi 25/09 : route jusqu'à Bryce Canyon (4/5h) (Soit LV le matin ou Bryce Canyon l'après midi)
LV le matin n'a pas vraiment de Glamour. En plus vs y repassez une seconde nuit plus tard
Pour Yosemite, je pense que la meilleure solution, pour s'éviter quelques aller-retour, serait de faire Mariposa grove en fin d'aprem le jour de l'arrivée et d'aller dormir au camping de wawona la première nuit.
Tres bonne idée
tu n'as pas "envie" de placer ton jour off à San Francisco ?
Bonjour
C'est plus securisant de placer un jour off à la fin du voyage. Mais parfaitement d'accord sur l'idée de passer un jour de plus à SF.
On pourrait donc imaginer un depart de LA le lendemain de l'arrivée, pour gagner un jour à SF, et passer les 2 jours de fin à LA, ou alors panacher, 1 jour à l'arrivée à LA, et 1 jour à la fin.
On pourrait donc imaginer un depart de LA le lendemain de l'arrivée, pour gagner un jour à SF, et passer les 2 jours de fin à LA, ou alors panacher, 1 jour à l'arrivée à LA, et 1 jour à la fin.
Je sais que vous voulez tous que l'on rajoute un jour à San Francisco, mais on veut vraiment ces 2 premiers jour et le dernier à LA.
On sait très bien qu'on ne pourra pas approfondir la visite de San Francisco en un jour. L'idée est d'en avoir un aperçu, ca fera peut-être l'objet d'un autre voyage. D'ailleurs je veux bien des conseils sur une idée de journée à SF qui nous donnerait ce petit aperçu de la ville.
Autrement, on a à peu près bouclé les réservations de camping et d'hotels.
mardi 18/09 : Route via Carmel et Monterey jusqu'à San Francisco (4/5h) 4/5H c'est si vs ne vs arretez pas à CARMEL et MONTEREY. Apres MONTEREY, vs avez 2 routes : la cote (Santa Cruz et tjrs la 1) ou l'autoroute (la 101) par san jose. Attention, la route de la cote est un peu plus longue en temps, et ne vaut pas vraiment le coup quand on a vu la partie entre CAMBRIA et MONTEREY.
C'est 4/5h de route au total sur toute la journée. Donc sans compter les différentes pauses et visites.
Mardi 25/09 : route jusqu'à Bryce Canyon (4/5h) (Soit LV le matin ou Bryce Canyon l'après midi)
LV le matin n'a pas vraiment de Glamour. En plus vs y repassez une seconde nuit plus tard
LV le matin, je pensais plus aux Outlets pour le coup 😉
On sait très bien qu'on ne pourra pas approfondir la visite de San Francisco en un jour. L'idée est d'en avoir un aperçu, ca fera peut-être l'objet d'un autre voyage. D'ailleurs je veux bien des conseils sur une idée de journée à SF qui nous donnerait ce petit aperçu de la ville.
Autrement, on a à peu près bouclé les réservations de camping et d'hotels.
mardi 18/09 : Route via Carmel et Monterey jusqu'à San Francisco (4/5h) 4/5H c'est si vs ne vs arretez pas à CARMEL et MONTEREY. Apres MONTEREY, vs avez 2 routes : la cote (Santa Cruz et tjrs la 1) ou l'autoroute (la 101) par san jose. Attention, la route de la cote est un peu plus longue en temps, et ne vaut pas vraiment le coup quand on a vu la partie entre CAMBRIA et MONTEREY.
C'est 4/5h de route au total sur toute la journée. Donc sans compter les différentes pauses et visites.
Mardi 25/09 : route jusqu'à Bryce Canyon (4/5h) (Soit LV le matin ou Bryce Canyon l'après midi)
LV le matin n'a pas vraiment de Glamour. En plus vs y repassez une seconde nuit plus tard
LV le matin, je pensais plus aux Outlets pour le coup 😉
Bonjour à tous,
Vu que nous n'avons qu'un jour pour visiter San Francisco, j'essaye de planifier un peu pour optimiser notre temps sur place. (Sachant que nous dormons dans un camping à l'entrée de la ville)
Arrivée en voiture Traversée du Golden Gate Petit arrêt de l'autre côté pour un point de vue sur le pont Retraversée du pont puis descente de Lombart street On se gare du côté de Russian Hill / Fisherman's Warf On prend le Cable Car jusqu'à Union square (Petit arrêt au musée du Câble Car suivant l'avancée du programme) Petite balade et repas sur Union Square Trajet jusqu'au Pier 33 pour prendre le bateau de 15h55 pour Alcatraz (Quel durée prévoir ? Faut-il mieux prendre la ligne F ou Alors Cable Car puis ligne F ?) Visite d'Alcatraz Repas du soir vers le Pier 39 On reprend la voiture et on fait un petit détour par les Twin Peak pour un aperçu de la ville de nuit.
Es ce que ça vous parait réalisable ? Es ce un programme adapté pour notre seule journée sur SF ?
Vu que nous n'avons qu'un jour pour visiter San Francisco, j'essaye de planifier un peu pour optimiser notre temps sur place. (Sachant que nous dormons dans un camping à l'entrée de la ville)
Arrivée en voiture Traversée du Golden Gate Petit arrêt de l'autre côté pour un point de vue sur le pont Retraversée du pont puis descente de Lombart street On se gare du côté de Russian Hill / Fisherman's Warf On prend le Cable Car jusqu'à Union square (Petit arrêt au musée du Câble Car suivant l'avancée du programme) Petite balade et repas sur Union Square Trajet jusqu'au Pier 33 pour prendre le bateau de 15h55 pour Alcatraz (Quel durée prévoir ? Faut-il mieux prendre la ligne F ou Alors Cable Car puis ligne F ?) Visite d'Alcatraz Repas du soir vers le Pier 39 On reprend la voiture et on fait un petit détour par les Twin Peak pour un aperçu de la ville de nuit.
Es ce que ça vous parait réalisable ? Es ce un programme adapté pour notre seule journée sur SF ?
Repas du soir vers le Pier 39
Je ne connais pas tellement d'adresses de bons restos à SFO, 😊 mais je sais que le Pier 39 est tellement touristique, 🏴☠️ que ce n'est pas le meilleur endroit pour dîner... 😕 En cherchant un peu je suis sûr que vous pouvez trouver mieux ! 😉
Je ne connais pas tellement d'adresses de bons restos à SFO, 😊 mais je sais que le Pier 39 est tellement touristique, 🏴☠️ que ce n'est pas le meilleur endroit pour dîner... 😕 En cherchant un peu je suis sûr que vous pouvez trouver mieux ! 😉
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Mon expérience à SFO c'était en vélo ! 😇
En voiture, on va plus vite, j'imagine...
Cependant, pour un beau point de vue sur le Golden Gate Bridge, il vaut mieux prendre un peu de hauteur
et de distance (sinon, si on est "collé" dessus, ben on manque de recul...)
Voir Google :
http://gocalifornia.about.com/cs/sanfrancisco/a/ggbridge_2.htm
http://www.californiabeat.org/2009/05/11/where-are-the-five-best-spots-to-photograph-the-golden-gate-bridge
Nous avions pris la route du coté de Presidio (le n°2 de l'article précédent)
et franchement, au milieu des arbres, sans beaucoup de touristes, nous avons grandement apprécié !
L'idée est de se garer et de marcher un peu jusqu'à la vue... 😎
http://goo.gl/maps/VXq8n
Nous avions bien aimé également la descente de la Coït Tower (prononcer "Côyte", à l'américaine, c'est mieux ! 😉)
le long des escaliers, c'est vraiment sympa ! 🙂
http://www.sisterbetty.org/stairways/filbertsteps.htm
Sinon, oui pour répondre à ta question (enfin !), en voiture ça me paraît faisable,
après tout dépend du temps... 🤪
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I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!





