Je vais atterir àSrinagar le 23 octobre J'ai choisi d'aller visiter cette region de l'inde que je ne connais pas encore pour y decouvrir de nouveaux paysages et surtout leurs artisanats . Je n'ai pour l'instant rien de prévu .J'y resterai 2 semaines environ avant de retourner me poser à Pushkar. Je suis preneuse de tous les conseils que vous pourriez me donner pour decouvrir des petites villes ou des villages, des idées d'hebergements pas chers et authentiques, des ateliers à visiter....etc.J'accueille toutes vos idées. J'irai peut etre en direction de Jammu ou un hote se propose de m'accueillir qq jours. Par avance merci et prenez soin de vous
Mariage avec un indien
by Uduvala
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Puisque qu'il s'agit du sujet du topique, la vie dans un couple est rarement un long fleuve tranquille, alors pour les couples mixtes, cela ne doit pas être différent je crois.
Ce que je connais du sud de l'inde et des couples mixtes rencontrés en Inde n’est pas à prendre, comme tu t'en doute, pour une vérité absolue car j'ai vécu une période limité en Inde et je connais que le sud, mais comme tu l'as écrit (je crois) l'inde est multiple et je ne sais pas ce qu'il se passe ailleurs en Inde et dans des milieux plus aisés.
Pour parler de quelques couples que j'ai rencontré:
J'ai côtoyé longtemps un couple vivant en Inde, lui français, elle Indienne, avec 2 enfants, mariés depuis plus de 20 ans! Elle m'a disait qu'elle était malheureuse et qu'elle voulait se séparer ou divorcer. Pourtant elle avait une qualité de vie riche et idéale, si on voyait les choses d'un point de vue extérieur, mais selon mes critères à moi🤪
Un autre couple, lui homme d'un certain age français, elle indienne plus jeune, apparemment, elle le trompait beaucoup mais lui, d'après ce qu'il m'avait dit, ce qu'il l'intéressait, c'était le visa et l'opportunité de vivre en Inde. Cela marchait bien vraisemblablement.
Un autre jeune couple en Inde toujours français et indienne qui s’entendait à merveille. Etc..
Personne ne peut comprendre et encore moins juger un couple, je crois🙂
J'ai côtoyé longtemps un couple vivant en Inde, lui français, elle Indienne, avec 2 enfants, mariés depuis plus de 20 ans! Elle m'a disait qu'elle était malheureuse et qu'elle voulait se séparer ou divorcer. Pourtant elle avait une qualité de vie riche et idéale, si on voyait les choses d'un point de vue extérieur, mais selon mes critères à moi🤪
Un autre couple, lui homme d'un certain age français, elle indienne plus jeune, apparemment, elle le trompait beaucoup mais lui, d'après ce qu'il m'avait dit, ce qu'il l'intéressait, c'était le visa et l'opportunité de vivre en Inde. Cela marchait bien vraisemblablement.
Un autre jeune couple en Inde toujours français et indienne qui s’entendait à merveille. Etc..
Personne ne peut comprendre et encore moins juger un couple, je crois🙂
j'ai fait un mariage d'amour avec un indien il y a 28 ans, et c'est comme si c'était hier ; un facteur qui a été important pour nous, sans le vouloir, juste un concours de circonstances, c'est ne ne pas vivre ni en Inde, ni en France. Nous avons dû tous les deux et ensemble nous adapter à un nouveau mode de vie dans un pays tiers. Nous sommes maintenant en Inde, pour des raisons de travail, mais nous n'avons qu'un désir, c'est de retourner vivre dans notre pays d'accueil, où nous avons passé de si bons moments, dans notre environnement à nous que nous avons créé pour nous. Est-ce la bonne recette ? Je n'en sais rien, mais cela nous a certainement aidés.
Je crois que c'est une bonne recette, milou 😉 Sinon LA recette!!
" L'enfer, c'est les autres" chez les couples mixte 🙂
Difficilement réalisable quand meme.. mais possible
Un grand Merci Milou pour ton témoignage précieux!🙂
" L'enfer, c'est les autres" chez les couples mixte 🙂
Difficilement réalisable quand meme.. mais possibleUn grand Merci Milou pour ton témoignage précieux!🙂
===>"je ne sais pas comment te dire mais la question que tu peux te poser c'est pourquoi un indiens qui trouve tout ce qu'il faut en Inde se marierait avec une 'blanche' ?" ????
Tu serais étonné.... Ils veulent presque TOUS une femme blanche.Mais ce qui m'attriste est que le contraire n'est pas vrai... c.à.d. peu d'indiennes aiment les hommes blancs et si c'est le cas c'est pour le fric.Moi aussi je réve d'épouser une indienne mais après 10 ans de tentatives je commence à perdre espoir. 🙁
Tu serais étonné.... Ils veulent presque TOUS une femme blanche.Mais ce qui m'attriste est que le contraire n'est pas vrai... c.à.d. peu d'indiennes aiment les hommes blancs et si c'est le cas c'est pour le fric.Moi aussi je réve d'épouser une indienne mais après 10 ans de tentatives je commence à perdre espoir. 🙁
Beaucoup d'indiennes recherchent le mariage avec des blancs!
10 ans de tentatives!!Mais c'est pas possible!!!😮🙂
Fred, tu as quel age?
Est ce que c'est tes ' critères de préférences' qui sont trop élevées ? Tu as cherché ou? 🤪
J'ai connu un blanc qui résidait sans visa en Inde et sans argent🤪, il s'est marié quand meme. Un trés vieux bonhomme aussi, avec une graaande barbe qui a 'réussit' aussi. En plus, c'etait bien AVANT les agences matrimoniale en ligne genre Shaadi.com, match.com, etc.. Alors meme avec ces cas 'extremes' c'est fortement possible, alors pourquoi pas toi?
J'ai connu un blanc qui résidait sans visa en Inde et sans argent🤪, il s'est marié quand meme. Un trés vieux bonhomme aussi, avec une graaande barbe qui a 'réussit' aussi. En plus, c'etait bien AVANT les agences matrimoniale en ligne genre Shaadi.com, match.com, etc.. Alors meme avec ces cas 'extremes' c'est fortement possible, alors pourquoi pas toi?
Je n'aime pas trop le terme "blanche" ou blanc, cela fait désespérement colonialiste et appuie trop sur la différence de couleur de peau.
Je préfère "occidental", (par rapport à l'orient) ça donne plus une connotation géographique que raciale (je n'ai pas dis raciste !)
===>"je ne sais pas comment te dire mais la question que tu peux te poser c'est pourquoi un indiens qui trouve tout ce qu'il faut en Inde se marierait avec une 'blanche' ?" ????
Tu serais étonné.... Ils veulent presque TOUS une femme blanche.Mais ce qui m'attriste est que le contraire n'est pas vrai... c.à.d. peu d'indiennes aiment les hommes blancs et si c'est le cas c'est pour le fric.Moi aussi je réve d'épouser une indienne mais après 10 ans de tentatives je commence à perdre espoir. 🙁
Deja, avec ton raisonnement:" peu d'indiennes aiment les hommes blancs et si c'est le cas c'est pour le fric"🤪🤪 Pourquoi veux-tu te marier avec une indienne alors?
Beaucoup d'indiennes recherchent le mariage avec des blancs! 10 ans de tentatives!! 🙂 Fred, tu as quel age? Est ce que c'est tes ' critères de préférences' qui sont trop élevées ? Tu as cherché ou? 🤪
J'ai connu un blanc qui résidait sans visa en Inde et sans argent🤪, il s'est marié quand meme. Un trés vieux bonhomme aussi, avec une graaande barbe qui a 'réussit' aussi. En plus, c'etait bien AVANT les agences matrimoniale en ligne genre Shaadi.com, match.com, etc.. Alors meme avec ces cas 'extremes' c'est fortement possible, alors pourquoi pas toi?
Tu serais étonné.... Ils veulent presque TOUS une femme blanche.Mais ce qui m'attriste est que le contraire n'est pas vrai... c.à.d. peu d'indiennes aiment les hommes blancs et si c'est le cas c'est pour le fric.Moi aussi je réve d'épouser une indienne mais après 10 ans de tentatives je commence à perdre espoir. 🙁
Deja, avec ton raisonnement:" peu d'indiennes aiment les hommes blancs et si c'est le cas c'est pour le fric"🤪🤪 Pourquoi veux-tu te marier avec une indienne alors?
Beaucoup d'indiennes recherchent le mariage avec des blancs! 10 ans de tentatives!! 🙂 Fred, tu as quel age? Est ce que c'est tes ' critères de préférences' qui sont trop élevées ? Tu as cherché ou? 🤪
J'ai connu un blanc qui résidait sans visa en Inde et sans argent🤪, il s'est marié quand meme. Un trés vieux bonhomme aussi, avec une graaande barbe qui a 'réussit' aussi. En plus, c'etait bien AVANT les agences matrimoniale en ligne genre Shaadi.com, match.com, etc.. Alors meme avec ces cas 'extremes' c'est fortement possible, alors pourquoi pas toi?
Il y a des Occidentaux blancs, noirs, jaunes, métis. La société des pays occidentaux est de plus en plus métissée.
En Inde où la couleur de peau est aussi bien un critère de beauté que d'évaluation sociale, où la peau blanche porte bonheur, où la plupart des stars ont la peau plus claire que l'homme de la rue, où les femmes prennent des produits pour se blanchir la peau, on sait bien ce qu'est un Blanc. Et dans bien des endroits, un touriste occidental noir sera moins bien traîté qu'un touriste occidental blanc.
Le terme de Blanc, qu'on entend aussi dans les films bollywood, est donc hautement pertinent dans le contexte de l'Inde.
J'ajoute que le terme d'Occidental n'est pas géographique mais culturel, civilisationnel. Le Maroc est à l'ouest, comme son nom (Maghreb) l'indique, mais c'est l'Orient. L'Australie est au sud, comme son nom (Terrra Australia) l'indique, mais c'est l'Occident.
En Inde où la couleur de peau est aussi bien un critère de beauté que d'évaluation sociale, où la peau blanche porte bonheur, où la plupart des stars ont la peau plus claire que l'homme de la rue, où les femmes prennent des produits pour se blanchir la peau, on sait bien ce qu'est un Blanc. Et dans bien des endroits, un touriste occidental noir sera moins bien traîté qu'un touriste occidental blanc.
Le terme de Blanc, qu'on entend aussi dans les films bollywood, est donc hautement pertinent dans le contexte de l'Inde.
J'ajoute que le terme d'Occidental n'est pas géographique mais culturel, civilisationnel. Le Maroc est à l'ouest, comme son nom (Maghreb) l'indique, mais c'est l'Orient. L'Australie est au sud, comme son nom (Terrra Australia) l'indique, mais c'est l'Occident.
Si tu ouvres tes yeux d'enfant, le voyage commence au seuil de ta maison
pris dans ce contexte, c'est exact !
Pour en revenir au mariage des indiennes avec des "blancs" de l'autre côté des mers, il faut se rappeler que dans la tradition indienne, la jeune femme part vivre dans sa belle-famille. Donc il y a toujours un sentiment de crainte de la part des parents de la mariée, de voir partir sa fille vers non seulement des inconnus (ce qui est vrai aussi dans les mariages indiens, mais la culture est la même ) des us, coutumes, nourritures, religions différentes. C'est abîme de questions et d'incertitude pour eux. Ils ont du mal à imaginer que chez nous, c'est "mariage/ménage", et comme la femme est la vestale du foyer, comment va-t-elle faire face à ses responsabilités dans un pays où souvent elle ne parle pas la langue ? Sans compter que même issues d'une famille modeste, les femmes indiennes bénéficient d'aide à la maison, et que la vie va leur sembler bien plus dure "ailleurs" .
Je pense que ce sont des raisons pour lesquelles les familles n'encouragent pas ces unions.
Il faut donc tomber sur des jeunes filles et des familles drôlement émancipées et large d'esprit pour parvenir à ces mariages. Même dans le cas où le garçon veut rester en Inde, il y a toujours la peur du "plus tard".
Pourquoi les indiens à l'étranger depuis des années reviennent presque toujours au pays pour trouver épouse ? Même s'ils ont sur place petite amie et parfois enfant ?
La force de la famille et de la tradition est colossale dans ces cultures.
Mais bien sur, il y a toujours l'exception qui confirme la règle.
Et je suis d'accord avec toi qu'en Inde, plus on est clair de peau, plus on a de valeur sur le marché du mariage !
juste une anecdote, je suis allée dernièrement dans un beauty parlour pour un soin du visage, avec ma peau de française même pas bronzée, et je me suis aperçue avec horreur qu'ils m'avaient fait un masque "blanchissant", croyant me faire plaisir !
Maintenant, je précise et je surveille !
Pour en revenir aux mariages inter-raciaux, force est de constater que ce sont les hommes occidentaux qui épousent - en général -des Thailandaises, Indonésiennes, Philippines etc... et ce sont les femmes occidentales qui épousent des Cubains, Indiens, Pakistanais, etc... Intéressant à développer non ?
Pourquoi les indiens à l'étranger depuis des années reviennent presque toujours au pays pour trouver épouse ? Même s'ils ont sur place petite amie et parfois enfant ?
La force de la famille et de la tradition est colossale dans ces cultures.
Mais bien sur, il y a toujours l'exception qui confirme la règle.
Et je suis d'accord avec toi qu'en Inde, plus on est clair de peau, plus on a de valeur sur le marché du mariage !
juste une anecdote, je suis allée dernièrement dans un beauty parlour pour un soin du visage, avec ma peau de française même pas bronzée, et je me suis aperçue avec horreur qu'ils m'avaient fait un masque "blanchissant", croyant me faire plaisir !
Maintenant, je précise et je surveille !
Pour en revenir aux mariages inter-raciaux, force est de constater que ce sont les hommes occidentaux qui épousent - en général -des Thailandaises, Indonésiennes, Philippines etc... et ce sont les femmes occidentales qui épousent des Cubains, Indiens, Pakistanais, etc... Intéressant à développer non ?
En plus de tout ce que tu viens de développer, il y a le fait que pour les Hindous, nous sommes des Hors-Caste.
Il y a des pères de famille castée qui ne veulent pas que leur sang de bonne caste se mèle à celui d'un sale Blanc.
Si tu ouvres tes yeux d'enfant, le voyage commence au seuil de ta maison
Moi, j'ai épousé un Bhramine, et il m'a dit (je ne sais pas si c'est pour me faire plaisir !) que le fait de m'épouser faisait de moi une Bhramine aussi ! Alors je suis du coup recastée !😉
Un brahmane très ouvert!!! Il y en a aussi, bien sûr.
Si tu ouvres tes yeux d'enfant, le voyage commence au seuil de ta maison
Tu peux toujours essayer de chercher ton ame soeur sur http://www.tamilmatrimony.com/ qui est le 1er site matrimonial de l'Inde et des indiens à l'etranger.
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Vivre simplement pour que tous puissent simplement vivre...(Mahatma Gandhi)
clair mais pas blanc... nuance... un indien à peau claire est très désiré.Mais un firang c'est un firang... en fait il y a une raison simple aussi c'est qu'une Indienne vue en rue avec un blanc est prise par la population locale comme une fille facile... Elles en sont coscientes et n'aiment pas ce genre d'attention...
Et je suis d'accord avec toi qu'en Inde, plus on est clair de peau, plus on a de valeur sur le marché du mariage !
Et je suis d'accord avec toi qu'en Inde, plus on est clair de peau, plus on a de valeur sur le marché du mariage !
Salut, je connais quelqu'un qui s'est marié avec un indien. C'était une fille plutôt indépendante et son mari était un mec qui avait l'air vraiment bien. Seulement voilà, il avait été élevé dans la tradition, à savoir l'homme va gagner des sous pour la famille, et sa femme doit rester à la maison s'occuper du foyer et des enfants. C'est comme ça qu'il voyait le mariage, et je crains que ce ne soit assez généralisé en Inde. Au final elle a pas pu supporter et elle s'est cassée, ce qui a totalement dévasté le jeune homme. Pas très joyeux comme histoire.
Dans cette histoire de mariage, est-ce que la caste compte beaucoup ?
est-il plus dur pour un brahmane d'épouser une étrangère qu'un membre d'une autre caste ?
"le temps d'apprendre à vivre il est déjà trop tard" Aragon
Une étrangère est hors caste, comme une Intouchable, mais légèrement plus impure, il me semble.
En principe, le brahmane déchoit en épousant une femme de caste inférieure ou hors caste.
Mais maintenant on voit de tout. Déjà, en 1907, le maharaja de Gwalior (caste des kshatriyas) épousait une danseuse de flamenco espagnole, qui fut accueillie en grande pompe par une foule en liesse...
Il n'empêche que les petites annonces matrimoniales des journaux indiens sont classées par ethnies et par castes. Quand la caste ne compte pas, on voit écrit en gras: CAST NO BAR.
En principe, le brahmane déchoit en épousant une femme de caste inférieure ou hors caste.
Mais maintenant on voit de tout. Déjà, en 1907, le maharaja de Gwalior (caste des kshatriyas) épousait une danseuse de flamenco espagnole, qui fut accueillie en grande pompe par une foule en liesse...
Il n'empêche que les petites annonces matrimoniales des journaux indiens sont classées par ethnies et par castes. Quand la caste ne compte pas, on voit écrit en gras: CAST NO BAR.
Si tu ouvres tes yeux d'enfant, le voyage commence au seuil de ta maison
Tout dépend du degrés religieux de la famille...
Les Brahmanes sont en haut de l'échelle des castes, donc tout ce qui est inférieur ou hors caste est en principe incompatible. Dans la réalité, les choses évoluent quand même - un peu !
ok... en fait ça dépend du degré "d'ouverture" de la famille...
et le rang dans la famille ça compte ?? être l'ainé demande-t-il plus de respect des traditions ?
et le rang dans la famille ça compte ?? être l'ainé demande-t-il plus de respect des traditions ?
"le temps d'apprendre à vivre il est déjà trop tard" Aragon
Je n'en sais rien.
Je viens de regarder le site recommandé plus haut par Shanmuga: jettes-y un coup d'oeil et tu verras que les annonces sont classées par ethnies (à cliquer en haut, en marron) et par religion (menu déroulant dans le cadre de la photo)
Si tu cliques la religion hindoue, tu verras que les castes sont mentionnées pour chaque candidat(e) au mariage.
Par exemple: pour l'ethnie hindie: brahmane, vaishiya, kayastha, gupta, baniya, shamar, agarwa, thakur... pour l'ethnie tamoule: brahmane, mudaliyar, vellalar, chettiar, vannia kula kshatriyar, nadar, reddiyar, adi dravida...
Chez les chrétiens, la caste est souvent mentionnée, en contradiction totale avec l'esprit du christianisme. On sait que dans beaucoup d'églises, les Intouchables sont séparés des castés.
Les musulmans ont aussi leurs différentes communautés: rowther, syed, hanafi, lebbai, sheik, siddiqui, ansari, malik, pathan...
Tout comme les sikhs, nombreux dans l'ethnie penjabie: ramgharia, saini, majabi, khatri, arora...
Cela semble vrai aussi pour les jains, nombreux dans l'ethnie kannada.
Il n'y a guère que les parsis (ethnie/religion d'origine iranienne) qui se présentent comme tout simplement parsis.
On note aussi la catégorie inter religion, concernant les personnes issues de mariages interreligieux, où la caste est souvent mentionnée. On voit même un personne se définir comme: inter religlion, inter caste, et inter subcaste !
La catégorie no religion existe aussi, heureusement pour certains...
L'étoile (signe astrologique) est systématiquement mentionnée chez les hindous, car deux thèmes astrologiques incompatibles empêchent le mariage.
Je viens de regarder le site recommandé plus haut par Shanmuga: jettes-y un coup d'oeil et tu verras que les annonces sont classées par ethnies (à cliquer en haut, en marron) et par religion (menu déroulant dans le cadre de la photo)
Si tu cliques la religion hindoue, tu verras que les castes sont mentionnées pour chaque candidat(e) au mariage.
Par exemple: pour l'ethnie hindie: brahmane, vaishiya, kayastha, gupta, baniya, shamar, agarwa, thakur... pour l'ethnie tamoule: brahmane, mudaliyar, vellalar, chettiar, vannia kula kshatriyar, nadar, reddiyar, adi dravida...
Chez les chrétiens, la caste est souvent mentionnée, en contradiction totale avec l'esprit du christianisme. On sait que dans beaucoup d'églises, les Intouchables sont séparés des castés.
Les musulmans ont aussi leurs différentes communautés: rowther, syed, hanafi, lebbai, sheik, siddiqui, ansari, malik, pathan...
Tout comme les sikhs, nombreux dans l'ethnie penjabie: ramgharia, saini, majabi, khatri, arora...
Cela semble vrai aussi pour les jains, nombreux dans l'ethnie kannada.
Il n'y a guère que les parsis (ethnie/religion d'origine iranienne) qui se présentent comme tout simplement parsis.
On note aussi la catégorie inter religion, concernant les personnes issues de mariages interreligieux, où la caste est souvent mentionnée. On voit même un personne se définir comme: inter religlion, inter caste, et inter subcaste !
La catégorie no religion existe aussi, heureusement pour certains...
L'étoile (signe astrologique) est systématiquement mentionnée chez les hindous, car deux thèmes astrologiques incompatibles empêchent le mariage.
Si tu ouvres tes yeux d'enfant, le voyage commence au seuil de ta maison
je viens de regarder ce site....🤪
Tu as raison, le rang familial n'est jamais précisé, même s' il y a souvent des précisions sur des frères et soeurs déjà mariés...
Des souvenirs de lectures me rappelaient pourtant qu'il était mieux que les ainés soient mariés avant d'envisager de marier les autres enfants....à vérifier, ça doit dépendre des ethnies ou d'une autre "subtilité".
J'en profite pour rebondir sur un autre aspect interessant: le nombre de jeunes inscrits sur ce site et qui vivent à l'étranger (majoritairement les USA)... Les mariages mixtes resteraient-ils minimes ?😉 je crois bien que oui !!!
J'en profite pour rebondir sur un autre aspect interessant: le nombre de jeunes inscrits sur ce site et qui vivent à l'étranger (majoritairement les USA)... Les mariages mixtes resteraient-ils minimes ?😉 je crois bien que oui !!!
"le temps d'apprendre à vivre il est déjà trop tard" Aragon
En effet, on marie les aîné(e)s avant les autres.
Quant au fils aîné hindou, il a la tâche d'allumer le bûcher lors des funérailles de son père. Pas de fils = problème d'allumage, et donc problème de salut de l'âme...
En effet, un Indien préfère généralement se marier dans son ethnie, sa religion, selon la tradition. D'ailleurs, si 30.000 informaticiens indiens expatriés rentrent définitivement en Inde chaque année, en dépit d'une baisse possible de salaire, c'est pour pouvoir vivre pleinement à l'indienne, selon leurs traditions.
En effet, un Indien préfère généralement se marier dans son ethnie, sa religion, selon la tradition. D'ailleurs, si 30.000 informaticiens indiens expatriés rentrent définitivement en Inde chaque année, en dépit d'une baisse possible de salaire, c'est pour pouvoir vivre pleinement à l'indienne, selon leurs traditions.
Si tu ouvres tes yeux d'enfant, le voyage commence au seuil de ta maison
Parmis les Indiens qui rentrent, il y a aussi ceux - et c'est une nouvelle tendance - qui ont passé toute leur vie en Europe, principalement en Angleterre, qui sont maintenant en retraite, et comme en Inde le niveau de vie et le confort ont considérablement évolué, cette retraite leur permet de vivre à l'aise dans leur pays.
il me semble que dans cette discussion fort interessante peronne n'a parlé des occidentaux divorcés et desirant epouser un Indien (ou une Indienne), Le divorce, chez nous tellement repandu qu'il fait partie du paysage social. Comment on nous voit sous cet angle-là, marriage possible ou totallement exclu?
Possible...
En faisant une recherche plus détaillée sur le même site
( http://bmser.tamilmatrimony.com/cgi-bin/smart_advancesearch.php?ln=en ), on peut avoir une idée des critères qui rentrent en compte dans les mariages arrangés :
Langue, Region, Statut (jamais marié, veuf, divorcé...) Religion, Caste, Subdivision de la caste (en effet, à l'intérieur d'une caste, il y a plusieurs subdivisions!! 🤪), Education, Lieu de residence, Citoyennete, Signes astrologiques, Chevvai Dosham ou pas (c'est une "malédiction" du signe astrologique qui fait que la personne ne peut se marier qu'avec une personne ayant le Chevvai Dosham sinon risque de decés du partenaire...En général les gens qui ont le Chevvai Dosham ont bcp de mal a trouvé un partenaire), Habitude alimentaire (vegetarien ou pas) Alcool ou pas, cigarette ou pas ...
et puis d'autres critères comme: body type (mince, gros...) couleur de la peau (être clair de peau est ce qui est le plus recherché!), revenu, valeur familial (traditionnelle, liberale...), statut familial, les occupations des parents, Passe temps & interets...
Aujourd'hui, il y a de plus en plus de gens qui se rencontre via les sites de ce genre, se connaissent, se parlent avant de se marrier...alors qu'avant le marié et la mariée se rencontraient pour la premiere fois qu'aprés le mariage!
On aurait pu penser qu' avec la modernité, les jeunes, en particulier les indiens expatriés, délaissent le mariage arrangé au profit du mariage d'amour. Mais c'est pas le cas! Bien au contraire. Voir cet article de BBC sur ce sujet : http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6279287.stm
et puis d'autres critères comme: body type (mince, gros...) couleur de la peau (être clair de peau est ce qui est le plus recherché!), revenu, valeur familial (traditionnelle, liberale...), statut familial, les occupations des parents, Passe temps & interets...
Aujourd'hui, il y a de plus en plus de gens qui se rencontre via les sites de ce genre, se connaissent, se parlent avant de se marrier...alors qu'avant le marié et la mariée se rencontraient pour la premiere fois qu'aprés le mariage!
On aurait pu penser qu' avec la modernité, les jeunes, en particulier les indiens expatriés, délaissent le mariage arrangé au profit du mariage d'amour. Mais c'est pas le cas! Bien au contraire. Voir cet article de BBC sur ce sujet : http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6279287.stm
Vivre simplement pour que tous puissent simplement vivre...(Mahatma Gandhi)
En tous cas, la femme divorcée est mal vue en Inde.
Sur les annonces matrimoniales, on lit souvent "innocent divorcée". Cela signifie que la femme a été contrainte de divorcer immédiatement après son mariage arrangé, car trompée sur la marchandise, son mari étant soit fou, soit débile profond, soit impuissant, soit homosexuel...
Généralement, dans ce genre de cas, le mariage n'a pas été consommé, notre innocent divorcée est toujours vierge, et donc honorablement mariable.
Je connais une innocent divorcée qui avait découvert que son époux était gay pendant la nuit de noces. Un an après cette union manquée, elle a fait un très beau second mariage.
Sur les annonces matrimoniales, on lit souvent "innocent divorcée". Cela signifie que la femme a été contrainte de divorcer immédiatement après son mariage arrangé, car trompée sur la marchandise, son mari étant soit fou, soit débile profond, soit impuissant, soit homosexuel...
Généralement, dans ce genre de cas, le mariage n'a pas été consommé, notre innocent divorcée est toujours vierge, et donc honorablement mariable.
Je connais une innocent divorcée qui avait découvert que son époux était gay pendant la nuit de noces. Un an après cette union manquée, elle a fait un très beau second mariage.
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oui, je comprends, mais un homme occidental (ou une femme occidentale) divorcé - combien ils "pesent" en tant que candidats potentiels au mariage avec les Indiens ?
Autre chose, plutot de charactere intime - comme dans beaucoup de pays (comme dans le Maghreb; mais pas seulement) on voit des "couples" des jeunes (et pas seulement) hommes marcher main dans la main, on nous souvent explique ici en occident que c'est plutot "mignon", comme les traditions sont rigides, pas acces aux filles, etc, etc, mon c.. sur la comode, bref, on s'entraine. Il suffit de lire par exemple Ben Jelloun - il brise le taboo dans ses livres. Mais, c'est pas ce qui est sujet de mes intorregations - je me demande, comment la femme indienne vit cette situation, reste t-elle FEMME pour tous ces hommes ou tout simplement une fois epousée - considéréz comme une "poule pondeuse" et la main d'oeuvre gratos pour lui et sa famille ? Je me rapelle, quand j'ai posé cette question a qq'un qui vit en Inde j'ai eu la reponse style "les mecs ensemble dans la rue ou dans un coin? la femme ne les voit meme pas, pareil comme une vache qui passe...ou ça ?, pas vu" Meme si certains psy disent que nous tous sommes des homo, quelles repercussions sur la vie de couple indien ?
Autre chose, plutot de charactere intime - comme dans beaucoup de pays (comme dans le Maghreb; mais pas seulement) on voit des "couples" des jeunes (et pas seulement) hommes marcher main dans la main, on nous souvent explique ici en occident que c'est plutot "mignon", comme les traditions sont rigides, pas acces aux filles, etc, etc, mon c.. sur la comode, bref, on s'entraine. Il suffit de lire par exemple Ben Jelloun - il brise le taboo dans ses livres. Mais, c'est pas ce qui est sujet de mes intorregations - je me demande, comment la femme indienne vit cette situation, reste t-elle FEMME pour tous ces hommes ou tout simplement une fois epousée - considéréz comme une "poule pondeuse" et la main d'oeuvre gratos pour lui et sa famille ? Je me rapelle, quand j'ai posé cette question a qq'un qui vit en Inde j'ai eu la reponse style "les mecs ensemble dans la rue ou dans un coin? la femme ne les voit meme pas, pareil comme une vache qui passe...ou ça ?, pas vu" Meme si certains psy disent que nous tous sommes des homo, quelles repercussions sur la vie de couple indien ?
Je ne comprends pas très bien ta question.
Les hommes main dans la main ne sont pas forcément des gays. Les Indiens de même sexe aiment aller deux par deux et se tenir ainsi.
Un couple hétéro main dans la main en public relève, en revanche, du spectacle obscène en Inde du Sud. On ne voit ça que dans des endroits semi-désert, ou dans la pénombre de l'aurore et du crépuscule.
La condition de l'épouse dépend du degré d'ouverture et d'humanité de sa belle famille: elle peut aussi bien être heureuse, que traîtée comme une esclave, torturée et martyrisée, voire assassinée (phénomène des incendies de sari).
Les hommes main dans la main ne sont pas forcément des gays. Les Indiens de même sexe aiment aller deux par deux et se tenir ainsi.
Un couple hétéro main dans la main en public relève, en revanche, du spectacle obscène en Inde du Sud. On ne voit ça que dans des endroits semi-désert, ou dans la pénombre de l'aurore et du crépuscule.
La condition de l'épouse dépend du degré d'ouverture et d'humanité de sa belle famille: elle peut aussi bien être heureuse, que traîtée comme une esclave, torturée et martyrisée, voire assassinée (phénomène des incendies de sari).
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Pour un Occidental recherchant un conjoint indien, je pense que le problème majeur est d'être occidental avant même toute autre considération.
Mais comme je ne me suis jamais penché sur la question des Occidentaux divorcés, je ne peux t'en dire plus.
Cependant, on m'a toujours dit en riant que si je mettais une annonce dans un journal chennaïte, en précisant bien que j'étais français, je devrais embaucher une secrétaire pour traîter les réponses. Réponses venant principalement de filles de basse caste, cela s'entend...
Mais comme je ne me suis jamais penché sur la question des Occidentaux divorcés, je ne peux t'en dire plus.
Cependant, on m'a toujours dit en riant que si je mettais une annonce dans un journal chennaïte, en précisant bien que j'étais français, je devrais embaucher une secrétaire pour traîter les réponses. Réponses venant principalement de filles de basse caste, cela s'entend...
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...je devrais embaucher une secrétaire pour traîter les réponses.
si ça peut generer des emplois, ça vaut peut-etre le coup?😉
si ça peut generer des emplois, ça vaut peut-etre le coup?😉
Tu es tenté par le secrétariat? 😏
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hello cela fait 6 ans que je suis avec un indien de delhi, a vrai dire c est plutot sa famille qui nous pousse a nous marier, tous les ans je vais a delhi dormir trois semaines chez eux cela se passe tres bien et la famille me considere plus comme un indienne qu une etrangere donc si tout se passe comme dieu le veux nous nous marierons au mois de juillet mais je n ai encore fait aucune demarche il ya meme l ambassade de france qui nous connait bien qui nous pousse a nous marier c est vraiment le monde a l envers ! juste un petit detail c est mon cheri qui hesite il n aime pas les mariages!!! il veut vivre a l europenne!! il est heureux comme cela!mais bon c est vrai que le mariage est tres important aux yeux de la famille ainsi qu a moi, apres mariage enfin je dormirai avec lui chez lui a delhi!!! alors bon courage patience si vous aimez un indien car il faudra par la suite aimer et s occuper de toute la famille a bientot caro
Salut.Où en es tu Titou de tes formalités de mariage en Inde.Ton cas m'interesse au plus haut point car, justement, à Ernakulam, Au Registrar Office, il a été répondu à mon chéri qu'on ne nous marierait pas et qu'il fallait voir avec le tribunal.J'ai aussi lu qu'il fallait faire constater par la police un séjour d'au moins un mois en Inde avant de pouvoir faire publier les bans.Et tant d'autres versions, chacune variant avec la ville.Nous sommes deseperes apres 2 visas de touriste refusés.Eclaire ma lanterne si tu le peux.Merci d'avance.Chac
Pour publier les bans en Inde, as-tu suivi la procédure que j'ai décrite dans la discussion indiquée ci-dessous?
http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=1010462;
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Bonsoir à tous,
Je dois me rendre à Delhi fin février 2008 pour assister au mariage d'une amie de ma copine, on doit se rendre fin juin au mariage en France et ensuite en Inde... A priori, il n'y avait rien de bien compliquer dans les démarches, il faut dire qu'une partie de la famille est installée depuis quelques années déjà, mais je me renseigne...
Je dois me rendre à Delhi fin février 2008 pour assister au mariage d'une amie de ma copine, on doit se rendre fin juin au mariage en France et ensuite en Inde... A priori, il n'y avait rien de bien compliquer dans les démarches, il faut dire qu'une partie de la famille est installée depuis quelques années déjà, mais je me renseigne...
Ce dont tu parles n'est pas bien clair: mariage en France puis en Inde...
Tu fais sûrement allusion à un mariage légal et à un mariage rituel.
La seule chose qui compte pour l'administration est le pays où a lieu le mariage légal.
Tu fais sûrement allusion à un mariage légal et à un mariage rituel.
La seule chose qui compte pour l'administration est le pays où a lieu le mariage légal.
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Mariage en France puis en Inde, légal ou rituel je n'en sais rien pour le moment...Je me renseigne... Cqfd
Rectification, mon amie est témoin pour le mariage en France donc tout ce qui a de plus officiel, en revanche en ce qui concerne l'Inde je n'ai pas d'informations, mais comme je l'ai déjà dit, je me renseigne...
Si le mariage à la mairie en France est déjà programmé, tout est réglé. On ne peut se marier légalement que dans un seul pays. En Inde, ils feront de toute évidence le mariage rituel (religieux).
Pour un mariage légal mixte en Inde, qui ne concerne pas les amis de ton amie, voir le lien que j'ai donné le 15 mai à 23h39...
Pour un mariage légal mixte en Inde, qui ne concerne pas les amis de ton amie, voir le lien que j'ai donné le 15 mai à 23h39...
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Autant pour moi 🤪... Assez peu adepte des mariages, il m'est difficile d'être clair effectivement sur le sujet... peut-être est-ce du coup plus facile d'avoir le mariage légal en France.
Si le futur conjoint indien vit déjà en France, à la rigueur, sinon, c'est pire. Un vrai chemin de croix...
Dans les deux cas, les obstacles administratifs français sont légion. On en parle pas mal sur le forum.
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J'ai lu vos questions -réponses sur le sujet de mariage entre race.Ecoutez il n'ya pas de technique de base pour la reussite ou l'echec d'un mariage je pense tout le problème réside au niveau du degré de concession que les uns et les autres peuvent faire.Croyez moi la vie en couple est un vrai parcourt du combattant.Lorsque c'est entre race c'est pire encore car même si le couple en lui même est soudé il y a des facteurs sociaux qui n'ameliorent pas leur vie.C'est un sujet assez compliqué vous savez?
Je pense finalement lorsque vous rencontrez une personne qui vous convient qq soit sa race prennez le risque mais soyez prêt pour des concession et là est toute la question
A+
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Tout à fait d'accord ! Mais moi je n'ai pas de problèmes !
Bonjour !
Je vais me marier en avril à New Delhi, avec un Indien ! Ravie de faire ta connaissance.
Marjorie
Je vais me marier en avril à New Delhi, avec un Indien ! Ravie de faire ta connaissance.
Marjorie
Salut je suis nouvelle sur le forum. Je ne peu pas trop t'aider . Mais je n'est pas pu m'empecher de t'ecrir car je voulais savoir comment ta famille a pris le faite que tu epouse un indien, n'as tu pas peur d'aller vivre en inde? il n'y a pas de problemes de langues?... En faite je vis un peu la meme situation, je suis tunisienne et mon ami est indien il vie a bombay. Je l'ai rencontré lors de mes etudes au canada. il en a parler a c parent il mon dabord pas accpter puis finalement oui.. Par contre moi je l'est pas encore fait. Car en plus de m'engager cela signifie vivre en Inde a Bombay . Jai peur😕 et aussi il ne parle que l'anglais et l'indien donc mes parents et tt ma famille ne pourrons meme pas apprendre a le connaitre. Je doute donc un peu. Me demande si c pas un peu fou fou . Mais pourtant je l'aime de tous mon coeur. quelqu'un pourais me faire par d'une experience, ou me donner des conseils..merci
laisse le temps au temps, ne précipite rien, apprenez à vous connaître, informe tes parents et laisse les choses se faire...c'est un choc pour tout le monde, toi y compris, tu comprendras plus tard...
oui tu as raisons, je te remercie pour ton conseil !!! Mais entre nous, tu pense que cela peu etre vraiment difficile pour une francaise d'aorignie arabe de vivre en inde. J'ai peur dde le laisser esperer et ensuite me dégonfler du au facteur vivre en inde tt ma vie. Il est avocat dc pas le choix il ne peu pas excercer ailleur...?????
je peux parler pour une française, mais d'origine arabe, je ne sais pas, mais cela ne devrait pas poser plus de problèmes. Cependant, avant de prendre une aussi grande décision, tu devrais venir faire quelques séjours, pour visiter la famille, etc, et voir comment tu pourrais t'adapter ici, car au fond, c'est très individuel, et dépend de la mentalité de chacu n.
Si tu vis dans déjà dans une famille arabe traditionnelle, orientée autour de la famille, cela ne devrait guère te changer. Sinon, pour une européenne habituée à une vie indépendante et qui n'a de comptes à rendre à personne, cela demande certainement quelques mises au point.
C'est pourquoi je recommande la patience, et la réflexion, avant de faire un pas qui ne sera pas un faux pas.
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Hello,
We are two couples of friends aged between 65 and 70. Do you have a local agency or a local French-speaking driver-guide to recommend for a trip around Sri Lanka between February 14 and March 14, 2027? We’re open to any tips for our trip. The reviews and advice for agencies found on the forum are several years old. Thanks for your help.
Hello,
We’ve already traveled to India twice before, but only for two-week stretches (2013, a loop from Mumbai including Hampi, and in 2019, Tamil Nadu). This time, we’re leaving at the end of October for nearly three months of travel—something completely new for us! We’ll arrive in Delhi and depart from Bangalore. Our goal is to explore Northern India and then head down to Kerala, taking a maximum of one flight and prioritizing trains.
Traveling for this long should let us plan longer stops to slow down the pace and fully enjoy our trip...
What are the places you’ve loved with this in mind? I’ve already thought of Gokarna... Do you have any other suggestions, especially in Northern India? Thanks in advance for your tips!
Traveling for this long should let us plan longer stops to slow down the pace and fully enjoy our trip...
What are the places you’ve loved with this in mind? I’ve already thought of Gokarna... Do you have any other suggestions, especially in Northern India? Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi,
I’m looking for an organized tour in Northern India that goes through Agra (of course!) over about twenty days, prioritizing 2-day stops given the long distances or flights.
So far, my search has led me to these tours:
Intimate Rajasthan + Ganges Valley
Intimate Rajasthan and Goa
Confidential Rajasthan + Goa circuit
The number of kilometers is still pretty overwhelming and a bit scary.
Thanks for your feedback!
bcricri14
Hi there! 🙂
We’re heading to Sri Lanka for 23 days in January 2027—there are four of us—and we’ll wrap up the trip with 5 days in Mumbai. Our itinerary is coming together, but what do you think? (We can’t change the dates since our flights are already booked.)
We still have one night to slot in, and I’ve tentatively planned it in Tangalle, though it was a bit random. Would it make more sense to place it at a different stop? Or is there an intermediate stop I might be missing?
I’ve got accommodations sorted everywhere except Mumbai—it’s a nightmare (either way too expensive or really dodgy). By default, we’ve spotted the Residency Hotel Fort, but 70 € a night (with a discount) for a hotel that doesn’t offer anything special in India?!
Thanks so much for your help!


We’re heading to Sri Lanka for 23 days in January 2027—there are four of us—and we’ll wrap up the trip with 5 days in Mumbai. Our itinerary is coming together, but what do you think? (We can’t change the dates since our flights are already booked.)
We still have one night to slot in, and I’ve tentatively planned it in Tangalle, though it was a bit random. Would it make more sense to place it at a different stop? Or is there an intermediate stop I might be missing?
I’ve got accommodations sorted everywhere except Mumbai—it’s a nightmare (either way too expensive or really dodgy). By default, we’ve spotted the Residency Hotel Fort, but 70 € a night (with a discount) for a hotel that doesn’t offer anything special in India?!
Thanks so much for your help!


Practical tips from my 105 days of erratic wandering in India
Day 1 (10/10/2006): arrived in Mumbai around noon. Bus No. 338 5 Rs + 5 Rs (bag) 20' to Andheri station. Train 6 Rs to Dadar. Train 41 Rs to Lonavla 2h30 Hotel Chandralok 500 Rs **
Day 2: bike rental 7 Rs/h (too expensive, normal price 2-3 Rs/h) visit to the caves of Bhaja and Karla.
Day 3: train 28 Rs to Pune 1h20 Hotel National 416 Rs *
Day 4: train 141 Rs (with reservation) to Satara 2h45 Hotel Sagar 364 Rs **
Day 5: bus 110 Rs to Pandharpur 4h Hotel Aishwarya 450 Rs ***
Day 6: bike rental 2 Rs/h
Day 7: bus 125 Rs to Ahmadnagar 4h20 Hotel Parijat 250 Rs *
Day 8: train 151 Rs (!ticket for a mini 600 km trip!) to Jalgaon 5h30 Hotel Plaza 200 Rs **
Day 9: round-trip bus 38 Rs to Ajanta 1h30 + shuttle 6 Rs 5' Site entrance 250 Rs
Day 10: train 47 Rs to Khandwa 3h + bus 40 Rs to Omkareshwar 2h Ganesh G.H. 150 Rs *
Day 11 to 13: Omkareshwar
Day 14: bus 35 Rs to Maheshwar 2h45 Akashdeep Rest House 200 Rs **
Day 15: bus 8 Rs to Dhamnod 20' bus 20 Rs to crossroads 14 km from Mandu 1h40 bus 9 Rs to Mandu 20' Ram Mandir Dharamshala 100 Rs + 5 Rs for hot water *
Day 16: bike rental 3 Rs/h
Day 17: bus 50 Rs to Indore 4h Hotel Neelam 209 Rs
Day 18 to 20: Indore + round-trip bus 30 Rs to Ujjain 1h45
Day 21: train 82 Rs to Bhopal 5h30 Hotel Ranjeet 358 Rs *
Day 22: train 10 Rs to Sanchi 1h20 Jaiswal Lodge 200 Rs + 15 Rs for hot water! *
Day 23 and 24: visit to Sanchi + bike rental to visit the caves of Udayagiri
Day 25: train 69 Rs to Jhansi 5h + tempo 5 Rs to bus station + tempo 10 Rs + 5 Rs (bag) to Orccha 25' Sri Mahant G.H. 200 Rs **
Day 26 and 27: bike rental + train 20 Rs to Datia 30' + bemo 6 Rs to city center. Return bus 15 Rs 1h15
Day 28: bus 100 Rs to Khajuraho 4h Yogi Lodge 150 Rs **
Day 29: bike rental 30 Rs/day to visit the temples
Day 30: bus 70 Rs to Satna 4h + train 56 Rs to Jabalpur 3h Hotel Banjara 350 Rs **
Day 31: bike rental 2 Rs/h and visit to the Marble Rocks (50 km round trip)
Day 32: bus 50 Rs to Mandla 3h Hotel Satyam 250 Rs ** Round-trip bus 15 Rs to Ramnagar 1h15
Day 33: bus 60 Rs to Dindori 4h + bus 45 Rs to Amarkantak 3h (hellish road) Sarvodya Lodge 250 Rs °
Day 34: Amarkantak
Day 35: bus 25 Rs to Pendra Road 1h30 + train 120 Rs + 109 Rs (reservation) to Nagpur 8h Hotel Grand 257 Rs **
Day 36 and 37: bike rental + round-trip 25 Rs to Ramtek 1h40
Day 38: train 141 Rs + 125 Rs to Hyderabad 10h Hotel 3 Castles 200 Rs ° + Hotel Suhail 200 Rs °
Day 39 to 41: stay in Hyderabad
Day 42: train 48 Rs to Warangal 3h30 Hotel Surya 410 Rs **
Day 43: 60 Rs to Vijayawada 4h15 Hotel Sindhuri 275 Rs **
Day 44: round-trip bus 21 Rs to Amaravati 2h
Day 45: train 98 Rs to Visakhapatnam 7h30! (normally 6h) Hotel Sri Sampath Residency 250 Rs **
Day 46: train 111 Rs + 95 Rs to Puri 11h30 Travellers Inn 100 Rs ° + Hotel Z 300 Rs ***
Day 47 to 52: Puri + round-trip to Konarak
Day 53: train 38 Rs to Bhubaneshwar 1h15 Hotel Upasana 275 Rs *
Day 54: train 70 Rs to Balasore 4h bus 26 Rs to Baripada 1h40 Hotel Ambika 225 Rs °
Day 55: bus 25 Rs to Balasore 1h40 train 66 Rs + 68 Rs to Calcutta 6h30 Hotel Paragon 270 Rs * Hotel Crystal 350 Rs **
Day 56 to 62: Calcutta
Day 63: 60 Rs to Bishnupur 5h Hotel Monalisa 200 Rs *
Day 64: stay in Bishnupur no bike rental!
Day 65: bus 20 Rs to Bankura 1h30 bus 20 Rs to Durgapur 1h15 bus 28 Rs to Bolpur 2h15 Hotel Nisa 150 Rs *
Day 66 and 67: visit to Bolpur/Shantiniketan. Refused bike rental at ... 100 Rs/day!!! (Communist state of Bengal!!!)
Day 68: bus 20 Rs to Sainthia bus 35 Rs to Baharampur 4h30 bus 7 Rs to Murshidabad 40' Hotel Manjusha 350 Rs **
Day 69: bike lent by the friendly hotel owner and visit to Murshidabad
Day 70: bus 8 Rs to Baharampur 35' bus 60 Rs to Malda 6h (hellish road) Hotel Pratapaditya 231 Rs **
Day 71: train 66 Rs + 70 Rs to New Jalpaiguri 4h Hotel Holydon 250 Rs °
Day 72: train 52 Rs to Darjeeling 9h30! (normally 7h) Hotel Pineridge 500 Rs **
Day 73 to 75: Darjeeling
Day 76: train to New Jalpaiguri 9h30 + overnight train 271 Rs
Day 77: Patna Hotel President 482 Rs **
Day 78: stay in Patna
Day 79: train 18 Rs to Gaya 3h10 tempo 10 Rs to Bodhgaya 30' Deep G.H. 400 Rs!! °°
Day 80: return to Patna
Day 81: round-trip train 36 Rs to Rajgir 4h! (normally 3h)
Day 82: train 75 Rs to Varanasi 5h! (normally 4h) Yogi Lodge 150 Rs *
Day 83 to 87: Varanasi
Day 88: overnight train 310 Rs to Jaipur Evergreen G.H. 250 Rs **
Day 89: bike rental 30 Rs/day round-trip to Amber
Day 90: bus 59 Rs to Sikar 2h30 bus 23 Rs to Fatehpur 1h30 Rajshri Rest House 300 Rs *
Day 91: round-trip bus 12 Rs to Mandawa 30'
Day 92: round-trip bus 17 Rs to Churu 1h30
Day 93: bus 80 Rs to Jaipur 3h30 Evergreen G.H.
Day 94: bus 105 Rs to Bundi 5h30 Shivam G.H. 200 Rs **
Day 95: bike rental 3 Rs/h
Day 96: auto-rickshaw to station 45 Rs 25' train 44 Rs + 50 Rs to Chittorgarh train 21 Rs to Udaipur (total trip 8h) Badi Haveli 330 Rs **
Day 97 to 99: Udaipur + round-trip bus 45 Rs to Ranakpur 3h30
Day 100: bus 143 Rs to Ahmedabad 5h30 Hotel Manila 300 Rs **
Day 101: Ahmedabad
Day 102: bus 99 Rs to Bhavnagar 4h30 Hotel Vrindavan 200 Rs *
Day 103: round-trip bus 22 Rs to Palitana 1h10
Day 104: bus 85 Rs! to Ahmedabad 5h30 + overnight train ? Rs (feels like the end of the trip!)
Day 105 (January 22, 2007): train 6 Rs from Dadar to Andheri 20' + bus 5 Rs + 5 Rs (bag) to International Airport 20'
More figures British Airways flight price Brussels-London-Mumbai-London-Brussels 576 € Exchange rate from 55 Rs to 58.6 Rs per euro Average room price 272 Rs/night Daily budget 11 € Chai from 1 Rs (Calcutta-Bengal) to 6/7 Rs (Rajasthan) Bottle of water from 6 Rs (Udaipur), 8 Rs (Varanasi) to 12/13 Rs Internet from 8 Rs (Warangal), 10 Rs (Calcutta, Indore, Hyderabad), 20 Rs (often) to 40/60 Rs!! (Rajasthan) Beer in a restaurant from 85/100 Rs (often) to 150/165 Rs (Varanasi/Udaipur) More details on request
More figures British Airways flight price Brussels-London-Mumbai-London-Brussels 576 € Exchange rate from 55 Rs to 58.6 Rs per euro Average room price 272 Rs/night Daily budget 11 € Chai from 1 Rs (Calcutta-Bengal) to 6/7 Rs (Rajasthan) Bottle of water from 6 Rs (Udaipur), 8 Rs (Varanasi) to 12/13 Rs Internet from 8 Rs (Warangal), 10 Rs (Calcutta, Indore, Hyderabad), 20 Rs (often) to 40/60 Rs!! (Rajasthan) Beer in a restaurant from 85/100 Rs (often) to 150/165 Rs (Varanasi/Udaipur) More details on request
Hello everyone,
we got back from our trip to Kashmir and Ladakh three weeks ago.
We spent 4 weeks there, including one in Kashmir.
We’re really happy with our stay in Srinagar and Sonamarg. The Kashmiris gave us a very warm welcome and seemed pleased to see tourists who weren’t Indian. In fact, over the 4 days we spent in Srinagar, we only saw 4 people who looked European... Srinagar is stunning with its lakes and the lively Mughal gardens. No trouble getting around, whether by shikara, rickshaw, taxi, or on foot. The houseboats are gorgeous, unfortunately controlled by consortiums. We took a taxi to Sonamarg (20 €).
Sonamarg (two nights) and its glacier are easy to explore, either on horseback or on foot, but it’s becoming a leisure spot for Indians. To get to Ladakh afterward, we opted for a private taxi (quite expensive at 100 €, but the road is long). Since we’re a couple, it allowed us to stop whenever we wanted... and the route is beautiful all the way to Lamayuru, with our first snow-covered pass under snow when we crossed around May 21st. Then we stopped in Mulbek and Kargil before arriving in Lamayuru (three nights). We took another taxi to Alchi (26 €), spent one night there, and took the local bus at around 8 AM to Leh (3 €, a comfortable one-hour ride). We arrived in Leh around 9:30 AM, and Gyatsel from Tsarap Guesthouse came to pick us up with our backpacks. His guesthouse is located 500 meters from the market square in Leh, in a quiet little alley with no traffic. We highly recommend it because Gyatsel is invaluable for arranging taxis and organizing off-agency circuits...
His accommodation is super comfortable, and he cooks with vegetables from his garden. His wife also helps out... It’s Gyatsel’s mother who tends the garden. Through him, we arranged permits for the Nubra Valley up to Turtuk, then the Pangong and Tso Moriri lakes (we didn’t do the latter due to snow overnight!). We also crossed the Changtang (magnificent) to reach Thiksey, Stakna, Hemis, and returned to Leh. Six days in a private taxi (400 €). Since the roads were clear, we headed to Zanskar for 5 days in a shared taxi (28 € round trip for both of us). The route from Leh to Zangla follows the Zanskar gorges (impressive!).
We discovered Padum, Pibiting, Karsha, and Puktal, which you can reach via a small 7 km road and a 45-minute walk to finish, plus the sacred summit on the way to Manali.
Back in Leh, we extended our permit to visit the Aryan Valley by taxi (round trip, two days, 90 €). We spent our last two days resting in Leh—the altitude is really tiring...
I’m sharing these taxi prices as a guide for a couple. Accommodation ranged from 12 € in Leh to 30 € at Pangong Lake (the most expensive), but averaged around 15-17 € per night.
We’re not trekkers, but we love walks, discovery, and meeting people along the way. It was an amazing trip, and we even discovered a very old monastery a few kilometers before Lamayuru, where a monk took us—timeless...
I’m sharing these details because it’s hard to find precise information about Kashmir.
Sonamarg (two nights) and its glacier are easy to explore, either on horseback or on foot, but it’s becoming a leisure spot for Indians. To get to Ladakh afterward, we opted for a private taxi (quite expensive at 100 €, but the road is long). Since we’re a couple, it allowed us to stop whenever we wanted... and the route is beautiful all the way to Lamayuru, with our first snow-covered pass under snow when we crossed around May 21st. Then we stopped in Mulbek and Kargil before arriving in Lamayuru (three nights). We took another taxi to Alchi (26 €), spent one night there, and took the local bus at around 8 AM to Leh (3 €, a comfortable one-hour ride). We arrived in Leh around 9:30 AM, and Gyatsel from Tsarap Guesthouse came to pick us up with our backpacks. His guesthouse is located 500 meters from the market square in Leh, in a quiet little alley with no traffic. We highly recommend it because Gyatsel is invaluable for arranging taxis and organizing off-agency circuits...
His accommodation is super comfortable, and he cooks with vegetables from his garden. His wife also helps out... It’s Gyatsel’s mother who tends the garden. Through him, we arranged permits for the Nubra Valley up to Turtuk, then the Pangong and Tso Moriri lakes (we didn’t do the latter due to snow overnight!). We also crossed the Changtang (magnificent) to reach Thiksey, Stakna, Hemis, and returned to Leh. Six days in a private taxi (400 €). Since the roads were clear, we headed to Zanskar for 5 days in a shared taxi (28 € round trip for both of us). The route from Leh to Zangla follows the Zanskar gorges (impressive!).
We discovered Padum, Pibiting, Karsha, and Puktal, which you can reach via a small 7 km road and a 45-minute walk to finish, plus the sacred summit on the way to Manali.
Back in Leh, we extended our permit to visit the Aryan Valley by taxi (round trip, two days, 90 €). We spent our last two days resting in Leh—the altitude is really tiring...
I’m sharing these taxi prices as a guide for a couple. Accommodation ranged from 12 € in Leh to 30 € at Pangong Lake (the most expensive), but averaged around 15-17 € per night.
We’re not trekkers, but we love walks, discovery, and meeting people along the way. It was an amazing trip, and we even discovered a very old monastery a few kilometers before Lamayuru, where a monk took us—timeless...
I’m sharing these details because it’s hard to find precise information about Kashmir.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a short visit to Pokhara around mid-February 2027 (it’ll be my 4th time in Nepal 😊, over 40 years!). I’d like to book a room in advance rather than looking when I arrive. I’ve checked a bit on Bxxking.com and see lots of options. I’m used to scoping out the surroundings of places listed, just to avoid ending up in areas that are either unappealing or far from everything.
So, I see quite a few offers around the lake (Lakeside?), but every time I check what it looks like, the streets seem really uninviting. It’s kind of like a construction site with buildings everywhere… Nothing like Bhaktapur (for example) or even Thamel, where the streets seem way more pleasant.
Could anyone give me some advice?
Also, I don’t really get the impression that Pokhara is worth a visit of several days. The lake, sure, but once you’ve seen it—what else is there?
I’m planning a short visit to Pokhara around mid-February 2027 (it’ll be my 4th time in Nepal 😊, over 40 years!). I’d like to book a room in advance rather than looking when I arrive. I’ve checked a bit on Bxxking.com and see lots of options. I’m used to scoping out the surroundings of places listed, just to avoid ending up in areas that are either unappealing or far from everything.
So, I see quite a few offers around the lake (Lakeside?), but every time I check what it looks like, the streets seem really uninviting. It’s kind of like a construction site with buildings everywhere… Nothing like Bhaktapur (for example) or even Thamel, where the streets seem way more pleasant.
Could anyone give me some advice?
Also, I don’t really get the impression that Pokhara is worth a visit of several days. The lake, sure, but once you’ve seen it—what else is there?
Hi there. I’d like to know about accommodation options for unguided hikers. I see there are campsites—are the tents already set up, or do we need to bring our own? Same question for sleeping bags—ours are a bit tight, I think (comfort temp 0°C). Are blankets provided? I’m picturing a camp where everything’s taken care of, including meals, but I’m worried I might be mistaken...
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Assam and I’d like to know what type of electrical adapter I need—is it M or D, or both?
Thanks
Hello,
I’m heading to Sri Lanka for 3 weeks in July with my two 11-year-old kids, and I’m wondering about how to organize the trip. We’re used to traveling on the go, staying 1 to 2 or 3 nights per place depending on how we feel.
Do you recommend planning the itinerary and booking accommodations in advance to save time once we’re there? Or is it pretty easy to organize everything as we go without any issues?
Same question for activities: Should we book safaris and tours ahead of time, or can we arrange them easily on the spot? Is there a risk of not getting a spot, for example, to visit a park since we’ll be there in July?
We’ll be using local transport (train, VTC via PickMe, tuk-tuk) to get from one place to another.
In short: Are there any must-book things we should reserve now? So far, I only have the flight tickets!
Thanks in advance for your help! 😊
I’m heading to Sri Lanka for 3 weeks in July with my two 11-year-old kids, and I’m wondering about how to organize the trip. We’re used to traveling on the go, staying 1 to 2 or 3 nights per place depending on how we feel.
Do you recommend planning the itinerary and booking accommodations in advance to save time once we’re there? Or is it pretty easy to organize everything as we go without any issues?
Same question for activities: Should we book safaris and tours ahead of time, or can we arrange them easily on the spot? Is there a risk of not getting a spot, for example, to visit a park since we’ll be there in July?
We’ll be using local transport (train, VTC via PickMe, tuk-tuk) to get from one place to another.
In short: Are there any must-book things we should reserve now? So far, I only have the flight tickets!
Thanks in advance for your help! 😊
Hi there, I think you're on the right track—you plan the itinerary and book the rooms in advance, and that’s it.
Not only do you save time, but you also know where you’ll be staying each night. Choosing well on Booking (or elsewhere) is actually a pleasure!
For safaris, given the number of jeeps with drivers available, it’s unlikely you’ll be turned away... the real issue is more about the concentration of jeeps around the animals.
I travel like you do—train, bus, tuk-tuk, and sometimes taxi. Ride-hailing apps like PickMe and other VTCs are mostly in big cities.
For the mountain train, due to severe flooding, service was interrupted on the line between Kandy and Ella. Check ahead, because reservations for this train are very complicated, if not impossible.
For the Colombo/Kandy train, you reserve your seats by buying the ticket before boarding. In the south, no need to book in advance for trains.
In Sri Lanka, there’s always a solution for getting around—just ask your hosts. They have trusted contacts at their fingertips. But still, compare prices—😏 smart move!
I stick to booking my nights and keep pre-planned activities to a minimum.
For reservations you can’t skip, it’s the beach stays you’ll want to secure.
Hi there,
I’m trying to find out if it’s still possible to travel from Mumbai to Goa by ferry or any other sea route. My search results aren’t very clear, and if it *is* possible, I can’t figure out where to book... If anyone has any info, I’d really appreciate it—thanks in advance!
Have a great day,
Virginie
I’m trying to find out if it’s still possible to travel from Mumbai to Goa by ferry or any other sea route. My search results aren’t very clear, and if it *is* possible, I can’t figure out where to book... If anyone has any info, I’d really appreciate it—thanks in advance!
Have a great day,
Virginie
It seems there’s a ferry from Nagapattinam to Jaffna in India. Has anyone here taken this ferry before? My main question is how to get to Nagapattinam—by train, bus? And from which town further south, of course.
Thanks, friends!
Gaston
Gaston
Hi there.
We’re spending a month in Sri Lanka in March, and we’ll have one week left after leaving Polonnaruwa.
We’re torn between spending it in the Jaffna region or on the east coast between Batticaloa and Trincomalee.
We’re divers, so the east coast appeals to us for snorkeling, beaches, and lagoons—but it seems like late March might not be the best time for that coast. What do you think?
As for Jaffna, the culture of the region, its more authentic feel since it’s less touristy, and the offshore islands all appeal to us too—but it seems far from the rest of the country and harder to access.
We have to choose because we won’t be able to visit both sides, and I’d love to hear your thoughts.
Thanks, Marie
Hi there,
We just got back from a 2-week trip to Sri Lanka as a couple, and while planning the trip, we found plenty of info on the itinerary, places to see, and transportation, but much fewer clear reports on the actual budget to expect once there. Yet, that was an important point for us because we like to plan ahead a little before traveling.
So, we took the time to break down our complete budget after the trip. In our case, we spent around **930 € per person** for 2 weeks, being careful without depriving ourselves, mixing guesthouses, more comfortable hotels, quite a few activities, and even a private driver for part of the stay.
What we found interesting when crunching the numbers is that in Sri Lanka, it’s not necessarily meals or short trips that blow the budget, but rather flights, certain accommodations, cultural activities, and all those little expenses we sometimes forget, like tips.
If this can help other travelers get a better idea, we’ve put everything together on our blog with our experience, a detailed breakdown of expenses, and practical info on money while there, withdrawals, and tipping:
https://aventures-sans-mesaventure.com/budget-sri-lanka-pour-un-voyage-de-2-semaines/
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! !
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! !
Hi everyone,
We’re a group of 5 heading to the Everest Base Camp trek in early April. We won’t have a porter or guide—we’re used to hiking independently and have already done the Langtang trek and the Annapurna Circuit (back in 2003!).
I’d love to know if it’s necessary to book lodges in advance or if we’ll easily find availability during this busy season. Also, will we find lodges all along the route between the main stopover villages, or only in those villages? I remember there were plenty everywhere on the Annapurna Circuit. We want to stay as flexible as possible.
Thanks for your feedback!
We’re a group of 5 heading to the Everest Base Camp trek in early April. We won’t have a porter or guide—we’re used to hiking independently and have already done the Langtang trek and the Annapurna Circuit (back in 2003!).
I’d love to know if it’s necessary to book lodges in advance or if we’ll easily find availability during this busy season. Also, will we find lodges all along the route between the main stopover villages, or only in those villages? I remember there were plenty everywhere on the Annapurna Circuit. We want to stay as flexible as possible.
Thanks for your feedback!
Hi there,
We’re heading to India in March 2026 and had planned to visit the parts of the Meenakshi Temple that are open to non-Hindus. However, the temple is currently undergoing major renovations—with all the towers covered in scaffolding—which might really take away from the experience and our stop in Madurai.
After some frustrating and vague online searches, and before we reshuffle our itinerary, I’d love to know—if possible—the most accurate expected completion date for the renovation work.
Thanks in advance.
We’re heading to India in March 2026 and had planned to visit the parts of the Meenakshi Temple that are open to non-Hindus. However, the temple is currently undergoing major renovations—with all the towers covered in scaffolding—which might really take away from the experience and our stop in Madurai.
After some frustrating and vague online searches, and before we reshuffle our itinerary, I’d love to know—if possible—the most accurate expected completion date for the renovation work.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Nepal and would love to do a helicopter tour to Everest with Namche Heli Service. Has anyone here used this agency? I can’t seem to find any reviews online. Thanks in advance!
Kloki
We’re planning a trip to Nepal and would love to do a helicopter tour to Everest with Namche Heli Service. Has anyone here used this agency? I can’t seem to find any reviews online. Thanks in advance!
Kloki
Hey fellow travelers,
I’m spending two weeks studying Hindi in the mornings in Delhi, in the Hauz Khas neighborhood. What spots should I check out in this area? Any cafés to chill at? How do I get to other parts of Delhi? By rickshaw? Is it easy to negotiate the price upfront?
Thanks in advance. 😊 Marlène
I’m spending two weeks studying Hindi in the mornings in Delhi, in the Hauz Khas neighborhood. What spots should I check out in this area? Any cafés to chill at? How do I get to other parts of Delhi? By rickshaw? Is it easy to negotiate the price upfront?
Thanks in advance. 😊 Marlène
Hi,
I’m leaving this Saturday for Northern India from 15/02 to 27/02. I’m planning to visit New Delhi, Agra, Chand Baori, Jaipur, Ranthambore, Bundi, Udaipur, and Jodhpur.
What’s the best way to get around? I was thinking of doing everything by train. Maybe taking the bus for some stretches?
As for renting a car with a driver, it seems expensive, so I’ve pretty much ruled that out. Unless someone’s got space for the same dates?
Thanks for your insights!
What’s the best way to get around? I was thinking of doing everything by train. Maybe taking the bus for some stretches?
As for renting a car with a driver, it seems expensive, so I’ve pretty much ruled that out. Unless someone’s got space for the same dates?
Thanks for your insights!
Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in March for this trek. We’re used to hiking and long-distance treks, but this’ll be our first time in Nepal.
QUESTION: People from Nepal are telling us it’s MANDATORY to have guides! Is this true, or is it just agencies trying to get work for their staff?
The Lonely Planet says: "In April 2023, the government announced that every trekker would need to hire the services of a porter or a licensed guide to obtain the TIMS permit. The law isn’t enforced, and by 2025, there were no longer any obligations for teahouse treks."
What do you think? What’s your experience? Thanks for your feedback.
We’re heading out in March for this trek. We’re used to hiking and long-distance treks, but this’ll be our first time in Nepal.
QUESTION: People from Nepal are telling us it’s MANDATORY to have guides! Is this true, or is it just agencies trying to get work for their staff?
The Lonely Planet says: "In April 2023, the government announced that every trekker would need to hire the services of a porter or a licensed guide to obtain the TIMS permit. The law isn’t enforced, and by 2025, there were no longer any obligations for teahouse treks."
What do you think? What’s your experience? Thanks for your feedback.
Hi,
I’d like to arrive in India at New Delhi Airport with some cash. I was wondering if the exchange rates at the airport are any good or if it’s best to avoid them (and exchange in the city instead?).
Thanks for your help.
Thanks for your help.
NAMASTE NEPAL! PRACTICAL INFO AND EXPERIENCE FEEDBACK
Stay from March 25 to April 16, 2025
· Flight tickets Air India (via Delhi) (via Skyscanner) = 1130 € per person · Planned budget (and respected without too many restrictions and while buying a few small gifts) = 2000 € for the stay for two. Buses, taxis, and entrance fees to various sites represent a budget to consider. Meals are cheap. Drinks like beer/Coke, however, are not cheap and cost the equivalent of a meal. · Exchange rate of the rupee during our stay = 0.0064 € (the exchange rate is almost identical everywhere, including at the airport). · At the airport, purchase of two SIM cards (phone) = 1000 NPR x 2 for 28 days. · Kathmandu: we had booked the hotel upon arrival: Kathmandu Boutique Hotel (+977 015 357 446 – email: booking@kathmanduboutiquehotel.com), very well located in a quiet alley off the street, south of Thamel, a 10-minute walk from Durbar Square. A hotel like Nepal knows how to do, where tall people will have to duck. Night + breakfast = 18 € for two. Very warm welcome, great location, excellent value for money. · Bhaktapur: we had also booked a hotel for the end of our stay because the chance of the year 2025 made the Nepali New Year and Bisket Jatra particularly festive in Bhaktapur: Manju Baha Hotel School (+977 976 7234014 – email: manjubahahotel@gmail.com) located in an old monastery. "A social enterprise transforming an old monastery into a charming hotel, offering professional hospitality training to underprivileged Nepali youth." Night + breakfast = 32 € for two. Beautifully decorated room. Very warm welcome. Don’t miss the Changunarayan site (near Bhaktapur), it’s amazing. And if you’re lucky enough to be in Bhaktapur in mid-April for 3 days, there’s the Bisket Jatra festivities (Newari festival), joyful, noisy, fun, and wild… · Pokhara (hotel recommended by the Kathmandu hotel): Hotel Green Tara, Lakeside, 10th street, set back, quiet (Tel. +977 61 462698 – email: greentara_67@hotmail.com) · Trek permit (Lower Mustang, no need for an agency or guide, permits checked at Ghasa and Jomsom) = 2000 NPR per person (2 ID photos) · Bus Kathmandu/Pokhara and return = 2000 NPR per person · Bus Pokhara/Jomsom, 2 one-way tickets = 2800 NPR. · Taxi: negotiation with a driver we recommend, Vicky (+977 984 075 599). You explain what you want, negotiate the price, and he waits for you during the visit. Very charming, we used him several times. For example: departure from our hotel at 10 AM -> Boudhanath/Pashupatinath/Patan return at 5 PM to the hotel = 6500 NPR – Swayambhunath (round trip) = 1200 NPR · Site prices: https://ntb.gov.np/plan-your-trip/before-you-come/heritage-site-entry-fees o Visitor Pass for Kathmandu Durbar Square (for the duration of the stay, show your visa) = 1000 NPR per person (1 ID photo) o Bhaktapur Durbar Square (old town) = 1800 NPR per person o Patan = 1000 NPR per person o Swayambhu Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Boudha Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Pashupatinath Temple = 1000 NPR per person (interesting to take a guide) o Changunarayan Temple (6 km north of Bhaktapur) = 400 NPR per person o Mountain Museum in Pokhara = 750 NPR per person · E-cigarettes: e-cigarettes are banned in India and confiscated whether they’re in carry-on or checked luggage. On the way there, we had kept them in our carry-on, they were confiscated in Delhi. On the way back, learning from our previous experience, we put them in our checked luggage. Someone came to get us to take them out of our bags and confiscate them… You can find e-cigarettes and products in Kathmandu.
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I’m 74 years old. I went to Nepal in 1982, 1983, and the last time in 1986. I wanted to introduce this beautiful and endearing country to my husband, and it was… now or never. So we decided it was now.
I knew the trek starting from Pokhara: Naudanda/Birethanti/Ghorepani/Tatopani/Kalopani. There was no way I was going to do that trek, especially the 1000-meter staircase to reach Ghorepani… You have to stay humble with age.
Back then, the road didn’t exist. I didn’t consider, with the construction of this road (NH48) along the western bank of the Kali Gandaki, doing a trek along a windy and dusty road. Was there an alternative hiking trail on the eastern bank? No one answered my question on VoyageForum, so I did my research online. And I found this site: "Andrées de Ruiter and Prem Rai - Trekking the Annapurna Circuit, including the new NATT trails that avoid the road - A guide to one of the most beautiful trekking regions in Nepal and the world (2011) - NATT = New Annapurna Trekking Trail".
Phew! A solution was emerging. This circuit from 2011 wasn’t fully marked. The idea was to go from Jomsom to Tatopani, so we needed to make sure the path was well-marked all the way, which we did, and the path exists, marked in red and white!
So, with the walking times information, we built our 8-day circuit:
· Jomsom/Thinigaon · Thinigaon/Chimang · Chimang/Saura · Saura/Kokhetanti · Rest day or, if in good shape: loop to Sekong Lake · Kokhetanti/Jhipra Deurali · Jhipra Deurali/Kopchepani · Kopchepani/Tatopani
It’s a senior trek, after all. So the walking times noted on the sites indicated 3 hours or even 4 hours for the two longest stages. That pace suited us fine.
On March 29, we left Kathmandu (1400m), after visiting the must-see sites, by bus to Pokhara: 200 km and 8.5 hours on a chaotic road under construction. I had a memory of Pokhara where it was the first city where you could see the Himalayan range, especially Machhapuchhare. But the pollution is such, the dust raised by traffic and construction, that no horizon is visible except the first hills around Pokhara.
We stayed 24 hours in Pokhara (820m), and on March 31, we left our luggage at the hotel and set off with our lightest backpacks: change of clothes, toiletries, first aid kit, anti-chafing cream, water bottle, sleeping bag liner, and light shoes for the stages.
We took the bus to Jomsom: 160 km/7.5 hours including stops for bathroom breaks, tea, and lunch. The road is nothing but a chaos of potholes, landslides, construction, dust, rebuilding, and mudslides. In Ghasa, the bus stops, and we’re told we’re at a checkpoint and that the two foreigners in the bus, my husband and I, need to have our permits checked, which takes a few minutes. The driving is rock-and-roll, surprising, and courteous. The drivers have their codes, and on these improbable roads, they’re virtuosos.
We could have chosen the plane, but several reasons dissuaded us: if there’s too much wind, the planes don’t take off; personally, I wasn’t reassured about landing in Jomsom, and this transport has a cost.
We arrived around 2 PM in Jomsom (2720m), and despite the early wake-up, the nearly 8 hours on the bus, and the altitude, we decided to head straight to Thinigaon (2840m). At the Jomsom checkpoint, they told us it was a 30-minute walk. Great! Except we took an hour and a half on an uphill road, bent over to fight a strong wind. But the Himalayan range is there! The Dhaulagiri, the Nilgiri, the Annapurnas as a reward.
In Thinigaon, we found a room at the "Nilgiri View Hotel" run by a didi (big sister in Nepali). From the lodge’s roof, she proudly showed us the different peaks surrounding the village and told us, worried, that it hadn’t snowed here for 3 years. She said there are very few tourists, that the season is rather in September/October/November. It seems there’s not a soul in this village, yet mules pass through the narrow street paved with large flat stones, their bells ringing. We dine at 6 PM and go to bed… Room = 1200 NPR and dinner, breakfast, and drinks = 2560 NPR.
On April 1, we set off at 9 AM, not for Chimang as planned but for Marpha! The didi from the Thinigaon lodge had said it was a 3-hour walk. The first part of this stage is attractive, the mountains are magnificent and imposing, the landscape is superb, there’s no one around, a feeling of being "alone in the world." We follow Dhumbra Tal, this small green lake. The path is a rocky track that climbs steeply. Then, around a hill, we start the big descent that joins the Kali Gandaki. We face the wind head-on, and the violent gusts take our breath away, throw us off balance, and envelop us in dust. We see the road on the other side of the Kali Gandaki. We arrive in the village of Chhairo at 2 PM, completely exhausted and with blistered feet, after 5 hours of walking instead of the planned 3.5 hours.
We’re welcomed by the village nurse, who tells us there’s a lodge in the village. Chhairo is a Tibetan village, a 20-minute walk from Marpha (according to the locals, multiply by 2 or even 3 for us…). We’re going to revise our trek plan and, first of all, spend the night in Chhairo.
The lodge is quite pleasant, and Karma, the hostess, is very friendly. She asks about our plans and suggests we stay in Chhairo the next day, from where we can visit Marpha and also Chimang, a 1-hour walk away, in light mode, meaning without backpacks. She invites us to participate in a village ceremony the next evening.
We immediately accept the proposal, as our feet need rest and the welcome is so warm… Dinner and bed!
We reworked our trek plan, which was too ambitious for our untrained bodies and, let’s face it… no longer in our first youth. In the initial plan, we thought there wouldn’t be too much elevation gain following the Kali Gandaki, but checking the map, we realize there might be significant elevation changes between Sauru and Sirkung. So we plan:
· Tomorrow: visit Marpha (2670m) and Chimang (2744m) · April 3: bus from Chhairo (2700m) to Kalopani (2530m) and continue on foot to Ghasa (2010m) · April 4: Ghasa/Pairataplo (1940m) · April 5: Pairatapla/Gadpar (1580m) · April 6: Gadpar/Narchyang (1510m) · April 7: Narchyang/Tatopani (1190m) · April 8: return to Pokhara.
Normally, it’s all downhill…
April 2, a rest day then… We set off in the morning to explore Marpha. We have to take a temporary bridge because the suspension bridge is closed due to road construction. We join the road and arrive in Marpha, a village famous for its apple orchards, brandy, cider, and apple juice production. This village is magnificent with its stone houses and monastery clinging to the hillside. The road construction spared it. There are people, but very few Western tourists.
We have lunch in Marpha and go back through Chhairo to take the path to Chimang. We cross a fragrant pine forest and find the rocky path; the landscape is splendid. We walk quietly, passing peaceful buffaloes and cows, and arrive at the foot of a stone staircase… 275 steps (which we counted on the way back) leading us to the village of Chimang. Chimang is an isolated Newari village that seems a bit desolate. Despite the slopes, there are crops on every little bit of land. Thankfully, we changed our initial program because there’s no lodge in this village, contrary to what we saw on a map… We wander through the village, which seems very deserted, have coffee in a house from another world, and then head back to Chhairo.
A rest day? = 5 hours of walking!!
Dinner and village ceremony. From what we understand, this ceremony is in honor of the Dalai Lama. Men, women, and children in traditional costumes gather twice a month; they dance, make, and offer small sweet cakes with Tibetan tea (made from tea, yak butter—often rancid—water, and salt). Surprising for first-timers…
Around 10 PM, we leave the ceremony; tomorrow morning, we need to be on the roadside by 7 AM to catch the bus to Kalopani…
This village of Chhairo is very pleasant and welcoming, no tourists, just two motorcyclists who arrived in the evening, one of whom participated in the ceremony and discreetly poured his Tibetan tea outside.
Lodge: "Norsang Tibetan Guesthouse and Restaurant". Total bill for 2 nights, 2 dinners, 2 breakfasts, and drinks = 8000 NPR.
April 3: bus from Chhairo to Kalopani, about 1.5 hours for the 20 km (200 NPR per person). We descend on the right bank of the Kali Gandaki. We find the red and white markings to resume the trek toward Ghasa. We’re in a fragrant pine forest, the Dhaulagiri on one side and the Annapurnas on the other, magnificent, and the path is pleasant and easy. We get a bit lost in this forest, always looking for the markings. Near Lete, two trekkers pass us, and we meet them again a little further on with two very young children, to whom we give the 2 hard-boiled eggs I didn’t eat this morning. They accepted them without hesitation.
We arrive in a village and ask for directions to Ghasa. The young girls point the way. But we come across a forest being logged, trees cut in all directions. We turn back and ask for confirmation. They confirm… But the two young girls catch up with us and clear the way. We have to step over, go around, and cross the felled trees, with no indication at all. Through this pick-up sticks of felled trees, the girls lead us to the top of a stone staircase, indicating that was the path. It’s the only place where we saw rhododendrons in bloom.
We descend the staircase. At the bottom, to the left, there’s a bridge to go toward Choyo, and to the right, a path to Ghasa. We take the right path and join the road. We should normally find the red and white markings, but we don’t… So we continue on the western bank road of the Kali Gandaki.
A little before the village of Misi, we see fumaroles on the opposite bank that seem to come from the ground. We don’t understand. We stopped to eat in the village of Misi (noodle soup = 600 NPR), but it’s hard to communicate with the elderly people running the guesthouse.
We continued on the road, not finding the marked path parallel to the road. Landslides, both on the left and right banks, seem to have taken over the marked routes. It’s a place where the Kali Gandaki gorge narrows, and on the opposite bank, the mountain smokes more and more, and we now hear the crackling of fire. Across from us, the mountain is burning… Our initial plan had us passing on that burning bank right now…
We arrive in Ghasa at 3:30 PM, a 6.5-hour stage but with a 1-hour stop at noon. We’re at the "Florida Guesthouse and Restaurant." From our room, we see the mountain smoking on the other side of the river, and at night, we see the flames. In this village, posters show Himalayan eagles and vultures that seem to be protected species. Indeed, we saw (and heard) 3 eagles circling today.
April 4 – Today, heading to Pairothapla or Kopchepani depending on our feet, accommodation options, and simply our desires.
No more smoke on the mountain this morning. It’s chilly, 7:45 AM, the sky is clear, just a smell of smoke outside.
Price of the lodge = 1000 NPR for the night + 3580 NPR for meals.
We cross Ghasa, which stretches over more than a kilometer. We have a drink at the last guesthouse in the village, and the didi, when she learns our destination, tells us to be careful because the villages we’re going to aren’t safe. Should we distribute our rupees in different pockets? Nah, we kept going.
At the exit of Ghasa, we find the red and white markings and take the suspension bridge to cross the boiling waters of the Kali Gandaki. The passage is impressive because the river is tumultuous. Lots of climbs and even more descents. We’re back on the eastern bank. It’s hot! On the narrow path, we meet a group of buffaloes. Who has the right of way? We decide to stick as close as possible to the rock wall and move forward calmly. The buffaloes look at us, chewing placidly, with no intention of jumping on us. Phew!
After a 5-hour stage (including stops), we arrive in Pairothapla, with hot feet and firm thighs, and decide we won’t go any further. It’s a good thing because there’s a lodge, the most basic so far, but with a great welcome. We have a meal and a short nap. The buffaloes we met on the way belong to this house. They come to drink at the fountain by the path.
Our host, very pleasant, doesn’t know what to do to please us and is very attentive. He wants to chat. He has two children, a 4-year-old girl and a 7-year-old boy. Where do they go to school? Do they go? He tells us that the fires in the mountain are caused by people, but for what reason? We won’t find out, but it’s illegal. From here, we can still see smoke rising in the distance. The wife is a bit less friendly. Corn kernels dry on a woven straw mat on the ground, and the mom sorts them.
From where we are, we overlook the valley and see the road under construction winding along the mountainside on the other bank.
Dinner on the terrace of the house overlooking the path, windbreaker and fleece on: dal bhat chicken for me and chicken curry for my husband: "organic" products, at least local production. There are small vegetable gardens everywhere with all sorts of vegetables.
April 5 – While we’re having breakfast on the terrace of our lodge, 5 porters, straps on their foreheads, heavily loaded, pass by on the path. A few minutes later, a group of 9 people appears. It must be said that since the beginning of our journey, we’ve met very few hikers. Two backpackers in Chhairo, the two hikers near Lete, two female hikers passed us before Pairothapla, a solo female hiker passed us…
The lodge in Pairothapla is called "Bimala Lodge & Thakali Kitchen" – Price for night + 4 meals + 2 breakfasts = 3000 NPR.
The descent toward the Kali Gandaki involves climbs whose steps we didn’t count. Clearly, the landslides on the mountain cause changes to the official ACAP trek marked in red and white, and the marking updates can’t keep up with the pace of these landslides. It’s almost always by chance that we find the markings. Fortunately, we can follow the power line that guides us somewhat.
Drink stop in Kopchepani, the legs are fine, but the feet don’t like being tightly enclosed. A group of trekkers with porters passes on the path. We met buffaloes that we kindly let pass; the path was wide enough, but it was a staircase going up, and we didn’t want to take any risks.
Across, a view of the magnificent Rupse Waterfall on the other bank of the Kali Gandaki, at the bottom, lots of vehicles and people.
Arrival in Gadpar after crossing a rather unwelcoming small village and cultivated gardens between dry stone walls, each better built than the last.
First lodge spotted, first lodge adopted to answer the call of our feet, and a very warm welcome from the owner. Since we hadn’t eaten at noon, we had Tibetan bread/jam. 6-hour stage including 1 hour of stops. Night + dinner + breakfast + drinks = 5060 NPR
April 6 – Today, heading to Narchyang.
For several days, we’ve seen banana trees with their bunches of fruit and even a prickly pear with large fruits ripening.
This stage is quite peaceful and pleasant. We take a suspension bridge to cross a tributary of the Kali Gandaki. While we’re resting for a moment before crossing the bridge, a couple of porters, a man and a woman, arrive and start across the bridge with their wood load in a basket held by a strap on their forehead, making them bend. We set off too… lighter than them.
On the other side of the bridge… a stone staircase, and it climbs steeply. The porter couple didn’t take this staircase; they went right on the path.
At the top of the staircase, we arrive in Narchyang after a 4-hour stage. A magnificent waterfall overlooks the village. We get lost in this fairly large village looking for a lodge. After wandering around for a while, we ask for directions, and an 84-year-old man takes us through the whole village and accompanies us to a very nice lodge run by a woman.
We chat with our hostess, who asks where we’re from and where we’re going. We explain that we want to reach Tatopani the next day and then return to Pokhara. She tells us there are 4x4s going directly to Pokhara and that it would probably be easier than taking a bus that might be full in Tatopani. After a quick consultation, we decide to return to Pokhara the next day by 4x4. She finds us a 4x4 with 2 seats left, departure at 8 AM – 5 hours on the road and 1500 NPR per person. A charming didi who does everything to be pleasant and helpful.
Narchyang community lodge = night + snacks + dinner + breakfast = 3000 NPR.
There you go, our trek ends tomorrow. Many necessary changes and adaptations to our initial trek, but no regrets, it was superb and a great experience that, for my part, I won’t be able to repeat. Always this encounter with the endearing, welcoming, curious, and very kind Nepali people. It was now or never, and we did it!
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In conclusion, 3 full weeks in Nepal is a duration that allows visiting Kathmandu, Patan, and Bhaktapur, enjoying the various sites, and soaking in the atmosphere and urban Nepali life.
The trek, even revised and corrected, allowed us to get close to the impressive Annapurna and Dhaulagiri peaks. One or two acclimatization days might be necessary to get the body in tune with this magical and extraordinary land.
Stay from March 25 to April 16, 2025
· Flight tickets Air India (via Delhi) (via Skyscanner) = 1130 € per person · Planned budget (and respected without too many restrictions and while buying a few small gifts) = 2000 € for the stay for two. Buses, taxis, and entrance fees to various sites represent a budget to consider. Meals are cheap. Drinks like beer/Coke, however, are not cheap and cost the equivalent of a meal. · Exchange rate of the rupee during our stay = 0.0064 € (the exchange rate is almost identical everywhere, including at the airport). · At the airport, purchase of two SIM cards (phone) = 1000 NPR x 2 for 28 days. · Kathmandu: we had booked the hotel upon arrival: Kathmandu Boutique Hotel (+977 015 357 446 – email: booking@kathmanduboutiquehotel.com), very well located in a quiet alley off the street, south of Thamel, a 10-minute walk from Durbar Square. A hotel like Nepal knows how to do, where tall people will have to duck. Night + breakfast = 18 € for two. Very warm welcome, great location, excellent value for money. · Bhaktapur: we had also booked a hotel for the end of our stay because the chance of the year 2025 made the Nepali New Year and Bisket Jatra particularly festive in Bhaktapur: Manju Baha Hotel School (+977 976 7234014 – email: manjubahahotel@gmail.com) located in an old monastery. "A social enterprise transforming an old monastery into a charming hotel, offering professional hospitality training to underprivileged Nepali youth." Night + breakfast = 32 € for two. Beautifully decorated room. Very warm welcome. Don’t miss the Changunarayan site (near Bhaktapur), it’s amazing. And if you’re lucky enough to be in Bhaktapur in mid-April for 3 days, there’s the Bisket Jatra festivities (Newari festival), joyful, noisy, fun, and wild… · Pokhara (hotel recommended by the Kathmandu hotel): Hotel Green Tara, Lakeside, 10th street, set back, quiet (Tel. +977 61 462698 – email: greentara_67@hotmail.com) · Trek permit (Lower Mustang, no need for an agency or guide, permits checked at Ghasa and Jomsom) = 2000 NPR per person (2 ID photos) · Bus Kathmandu/Pokhara and return = 2000 NPR per person · Bus Pokhara/Jomsom, 2 one-way tickets = 2800 NPR. · Taxi: negotiation with a driver we recommend, Vicky (+977 984 075 599). You explain what you want, negotiate the price, and he waits for you during the visit. Very charming, we used him several times. For example: departure from our hotel at 10 AM -> Boudhanath/Pashupatinath/Patan return at 5 PM to the hotel = 6500 NPR – Swayambhunath (round trip) = 1200 NPR · Site prices: https://ntb.gov.np/plan-your-trip/before-you-come/heritage-site-entry-fees o Visitor Pass for Kathmandu Durbar Square (for the duration of the stay, show your visa) = 1000 NPR per person (1 ID photo) o Bhaktapur Durbar Square (old town) = 1800 NPR per person o Patan = 1000 NPR per person o Swayambhu Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Boudha Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Pashupatinath Temple = 1000 NPR per person (interesting to take a guide) o Changunarayan Temple (6 km north of Bhaktapur) = 400 NPR per person o Mountain Museum in Pokhara = 750 NPR per person · E-cigarettes: e-cigarettes are banned in India and confiscated whether they’re in carry-on or checked luggage. On the way there, we had kept them in our carry-on, they were confiscated in Delhi. On the way back, learning from our previous experience, we put them in our checked luggage. Someone came to get us to take them out of our bags and confiscate them… You can find e-cigarettes and products in Kathmandu.
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I’m 74 years old. I went to Nepal in 1982, 1983, and the last time in 1986. I wanted to introduce this beautiful and endearing country to my husband, and it was… now or never. So we decided it was now.
I knew the trek starting from Pokhara: Naudanda/Birethanti/Ghorepani/Tatopani/Kalopani. There was no way I was going to do that trek, especially the 1000-meter staircase to reach Ghorepani… You have to stay humble with age.
Back then, the road didn’t exist. I didn’t consider, with the construction of this road (NH48) along the western bank of the Kali Gandaki, doing a trek along a windy and dusty road. Was there an alternative hiking trail on the eastern bank? No one answered my question on VoyageForum, so I did my research online. And I found this site: "Andrées de Ruiter and Prem Rai - Trekking the Annapurna Circuit, including the new NATT trails that avoid the road - A guide to one of the most beautiful trekking regions in Nepal and the world (2011) - NATT = New Annapurna Trekking Trail".
Phew! A solution was emerging. This circuit from 2011 wasn’t fully marked. The idea was to go from Jomsom to Tatopani, so we needed to make sure the path was well-marked all the way, which we did, and the path exists, marked in red and white!
So, with the walking times information, we built our 8-day circuit:
· Jomsom/Thinigaon · Thinigaon/Chimang · Chimang/Saura · Saura/Kokhetanti · Rest day or, if in good shape: loop to Sekong Lake · Kokhetanti/Jhipra Deurali · Jhipra Deurali/Kopchepani · Kopchepani/Tatopani
It’s a senior trek, after all. So the walking times noted on the sites indicated 3 hours or even 4 hours for the two longest stages. That pace suited us fine.
On March 29, we left Kathmandu (1400m), after visiting the must-see sites, by bus to Pokhara: 200 km and 8.5 hours on a chaotic road under construction. I had a memory of Pokhara where it was the first city where you could see the Himalayan range, especially Machhapuchhare. But the pollution is such, the dust raised by traffic and construction, that no horizon is visible except the first hills around Pokhara.
We stayed 24 hours in Pokhara (820m), and on March 31, we left our luggage at the hotel and set off with our lightest backpacks: change of clothes, toiletries, first aid kit, anti-chafing cream, water bottle, sleeping bag liner, and light shoes for the stages.
We took the bus to Jomsom: 160 km/7.5 hours including stops for bathroom breaks, tea, and lunch. The road is nothing but a chaos of potholes, landslides, construction, dust, rebuilding, and mudslides. In Ghasa, the bus stops, and we’re told we’re at a checkpoint and that the two foreigners in the bus, my husband and I, need to have our permits checked, which takes a few minutes. The driving is rock-and-roll, surprising, and courteous. The drivers have their codes, and on these improbable roads, they’re virtuosos.
We could have chosen the plane, but several reasons dissuaded us: if there’s too much wind, the planes don’t take off; personally, I wasn’t reassured about landing in Jomsom, and this transport has a cost.
We arrived around 2 PM in Jomsom (2720m), and despite the early wake-up, the nearly 8 hours on the bus, and the altitude, we decided to head straight to Thinigaon (2840m). At the Jomsom checkpoint, they told us it was a 30-minute walk. Great! Except we took an hour and a half on an uphill road, bent over to fight a strong wind. But the Himalayan range is there! The Dhaulagiri, the Nilgiri, the Annapurnas as a reward.
In Thinigaon, we found a room at the "Nilgiri View Hotel" run by a didi (big sister in Nepali). From the lodge’s roof, she proudly showed us the different peaks surrounding the village and told us, worried, that it hadn’t snowed here for 3 years. She said there are very few tourists, that the season is rather in September/October/November. It seems there’s not a soul in this village, yet mules pass through the narrow street paved with large flat stones, their bells ringing. We dine at 6 PM and go to bed… Room = 1200 NPR and dinner, breakfast, and drinks = 2560 NPR.
On April 1, we set off at 9 AM, not for Chimang as planned but for Marpha! The didi from the Thinigaon lodge had said it was a 3-hour walk. The first part of this stage is attractive, the mountains are magnificent and imposing, the landscape is superb, there’s no one around, a feeling of being "alone in the world." We follow Dhumbra Tal, this small green lake. The path is a rocky track that climbs steeply. Then, around a hill, we start the big descent that joins the Kali Gandaki. We face the wind head-on, and the violent gusts take our breath away, throw us off balance, and envelop us in dust. We see the road on the other side of the Kali Gandaki. We arrive in the village of Chhairo at 2 PM, completely exhausted and with blistered feet, after 5 hours of walking instead of the planned 3.5 hours.
We’re welcomed by the village nurse, who tells us there’s a lodge in the village. Chhairo is a Tibetan village, a 20-minute walk from Marpha (according to the locals, multiply by 2 or even 3 for us…). We’re going to revise our trek plan and, first of all, spend the night in Chhairo.
The lodge is quite pleasant, and Karma, the hostess, is very friendly. She asks about our plans and suggests we stay in Chhairo the next day, from where we can visit Marpha and also Chimang, a 1-hour walk away, in light mode, meaning without backpacks. She invites us to participate in a village ceremony the next evening.
We immediately accept the proposal, as our feet need rest and the welcome is so warm… Dinner and bed!
We reworked our trek plan, which was too ambitious for our untrained bodies and, let’s face it… no longer in our first youth. In the initial plan, we thought there wouldn’t be too much elevation gain following the Kali Gandaki, but checking the map, we realize there might be significant elevation changes between Sauru and Sirkung. So we plan:
· Tomorrow: visit Marpha (2670m) and Chimang (2744m) · April 3: bus from Chhairo (2700m) to Kalopani (2530m) and continue on foot to Ghasa (2010m) · April 4: Ghasa/Pairataplo (1940m) · April 5: Pairatapla/Gadpar (1580m) · April 6: Gadpar/Narchyang (1510m) · April 7: Narchyang/Tatopani (1190m) · April 8: return to Pokhara.
Normally, it’s all downhill…
April 2, a rest day then… We set off in the morning to explore Marpha. We have to take a temporary bridge because the suspension bridge is closed due to road construction. We join the road and arrive in Marpha, a village famous for its apple orchards, brandy, cider, and apple juice production. This village is magnificent with its stone houses and monastery clinging to the hillside. The road construction spared it. There are people, but very few Western tourists.
We have lunch in Marpha and go back through Chhairo to take the path to Chimang. We cross a fragrant pine forest and find the rocky path; the landscape is splendid. We walk quietly, passing peaceful buffaloes and cows, and arrive at the foot of a stone staircase… 275 steps (which we counted on the way back) leading us to the village of Chimang. Chimang is an isolated Newari village that seems a bit desolate. Despite the slopes, there are crops on every little bit of land. Thankfully, we changed our initial program because there’s no lodge in this village, contrary to what we saw on a map… We wander through the village, which seems very deserted, have coffee in a house from another world, and then head back to Chhairo.
A rest day? = 5 hours of walking!!
Dinner and village ceremony. From what we understand, this ceremony is in honor of the Dalai Lama. Men, women, and children in traditional costumes gather twice a month; they dance, make, and offer small sweet cakes with Tibetan tea (made from tea, yak butter—often rancid—water, and salt). Surprising for first-timers…
Around 10 PM, we leave the ceremony; tomorrow morning, we need to be on the roadside by 7 AM to catch the bus to Kalopani…
This village of Chhairo is very pleasant and welcoming, no tourists, just two motorcyclists who arrived in the evening, one of whom participated in the ceremony and discreetly poured his Tibetan tea outside.
Lodge: "Norsang Tibetan Guesthouse and Restaurant". Total bill for 2 nights, 2 dinners, 2 breakfasts, and drinks = 8000 NPR.
April 3: bus from Chhairo to Kalopani, about 1.5 hours for the 20 km (200 NPR per person). We descend on the right bank of the Kali Gandaki. We find the red and white markings to resume the trek toward Ghasa. We’re in a fragrant pine forest, the Dhaulagiri on one side and the Annapurnas on the other, magnificent, and the path is pleasant and easy. We get a bit lost in this forest, always looking for the markings. Near Lete, two trekkers pass us, and we meet them again a little further on with two very young children, to whom we give the 2 hard-boiled eggs I didn’t eat this morning. They accepted them without hesitation.
We arrive in a village and ask for directions to Ghasa. The young girls point the way. But we come across a forest being logged, trees cut in all directions. We turn back and ask for confirmation. They confirm… But the two young girls catch up with us and clear the way. We have to step over, go around, and cross the felled trees, with no indication at all. Through this pick-up sticks of felled trees, the girls lead us to the top of a stone staircase, indicating that was the path. It’s the only place where we saw rhododendrons in bloom.
We descend the staircase. At the bottom, to the left, there’s a bridge to go toward Choyo, and to the right, a path to Ghasa. We take the right path and join the road. We should normally find the red and white markings, but we don’t… So we continue on the western bank road of the Kali Gandaki.
A little before the village of Misi, we see fumaroles on the opposite bank that seem to come from the ground. We don’t understand. We stopped to eat in the village of Misi (noodle soup = 600 NPR), but it’s hard to communicate with the elderly people running the guesthouse.
We continued on the road, not finding the marked path parallel to the road. Landslides, both on the left and right banks, seem to have taken over the marked routes. It’s a place where the Kali Gandaki gorge narrows, and on the opposite bank, the mountain smokes more and more, and we now hear the crackling of fire. Across from us, the mountain is burning… Our initial plan had us passing on that burning bank right now…
We arrive in Ghasa at 3:30 PM, a 6.5-hour stage but with a 1-hour stop at noon. We’re at the "Florida Guesthouse and Restaurant." From our room, we see the mountain smoking on the other side of the river, and at night, we see the flames. In this village, posters show Himalayan eagles and vultures that seem to be protected species. Indeed, we saw (and heard) 3 eagles circling today.
April 4 – Today, heading to Pairothapla or Kopchepani depending on our feet, accommodation options, and simply our desires.
No more smoke on the mountain this morning. It’s chilly, 7:45 AM, the sky is clear, just a smell of smoke outside.
Price of the lodge = 1000 NPR for the night + 3580 NPR for meals.
We cross Ghasa, which stretches over more than a kilometer. We have a drink at the last guesthouse in the village, and the didi, when she learns our destination, tells us to be careful because the villages we’re going to aren’t safe. Should we distribute our rupees in different pockets? Nah, we kept going.
At the exit of Ghasa, we find the red and white markings and take the suspension bridge to cross the boiling waters of the Kali Gandaki. The passage is impressive because the river is tumultuous. Lots of climbs and even more descents. We’re back on the eastern bank. It’s hot! On the narrow path, we meet a group of buffaloes. Who has the right of way? We decide to stick as close as possible to the rock wall and move forward calmly. The buffaloes look at us, chewing placidly, with no intention of jumping on us. Phew!
After a 5-hour stage (including stops), we arrive in Pairothapla, with hot feet and firm thighs, and decide we won’t go any further. It’s a good thing because there’s a lodge, the most basic so far, but with a great welcome. We have a meal and a short nap. The buffaloes we met on the way belong to this house. They come to drink at the fountain by the path.
Our host, very pleasant, doesn’t know what to do to please us and is very attentive. He wants to chat. He has two children, a 4-year-old girl and a 7-year-old boy. Where do they go to school? Do they go? He tells us that the fires in the mountain are caused by people, but for what reason? We won’t find out, but it’s illegal. From here, we can still see smoke rising in the distance. The wife is a bit less friendly. Corn kernels dry on a woven straw mat on the ground, and the mom sorts them.
From where we are, we overlook the valley and see the road under construction winding along the mountainside on the other bank.
Dinner on the terrace of the house overlooking the path, windbreaker and fleece on: dal bhat chicken for me and chicken curry for my husband: "organic" products, at least local production. There are small vegetable gardens everywhere with all sorts of vegetables.
April 5 – While we’re having breakfast on the terrace of our lodge, 5 porters, straps on their foreheads, heavily loaded, pass by on the path. A few minutes later, a group of 9 people appears. It must be said that since the beginning of our journey, we’ve met very few hikers. Two backpackers in Chhairo, the two hikers near Lete, two female hikers passed us before Pairothapla, a solo female hiker passed us…
The lodge in Pairothapla is called "Bimala Lodge & Thakali Kitchen" – Price for night + 4 meals + 2 breakfasts = 3000 NPR.
The descent toward the Kali Gandaki involves climbs whose steps we didn’t count. Clearly, the landslides on the mountain cause changes to the official ACAP trek marked in red and white, and the marking updates can’t keep up with the pace of these landslides. It’s almost always by chance that we find the markings. Fortunately, we can follow the power line that guides us somewhat.
Drink stop in Kopchepani, the legs are fine, but the feet don’t like being tightly enclosed. A group of trekkers with porters passes on the path. We met buffaloes that we kindly let pass; the path was wide enough, but it was a staircase going up, and we didn’t want to take any risks.
Across, a view of the magnificent Rupse Waterfall on the other bank of the Kali Gandaki, at the bottom, lots of vehicles and people.
Arrival in Gadpar after crossing a rather unwelcoming small village and cultivated gardens between dry stone walls, each better built than the last.
First lodge spotted, first lodge adopted to answer the call of our feet, and a very warm welcome from the owner. Since we hadn’t eaten at noon, we had Tibetan bread/jam. 6-hour stage including 1 hour of stops. Night + dinner + breakfast + drinks = 5060 NPR
April 6 – Today, heading to Narchyang.
For several days, we’ve seen banana trees with their bunches of fruit and even a prickly pear with large fruits ripening.
This stage is quite peaceful and pleasant. We take a suspension bridge to cross a tributary of the Kali Gandaki. While we’re resting for a moment before crossing the bridge, a couple of porters, a man and a woman, arrive and start across the bridge with their wood load in a basket held by a strap on their forehead, making them bend. We set off too… lighter than them.
On the other side of the bridge… a stone staircase, and it climbs steeply. The porter couple didn’t take this staircase; they went right on the path.
At the top of the staircase, we arrive in Narchyang after a 4-hour stage. A magnificent waterfall overlooks the village. We get lost in this fairly large village looking for a lodge. After wandering around for a while, we ask for directions, and an 84-year-old man takes us through the whole village and accompanies us to a very nice lodge run by a woman.
We chat with our hostess, who asks where we’re from and where we’re going. We explain that we want to reach Tatopani the next day and then return to Pokhara. She tells us there are 4x4s going directly to Pokhara and that it would probably be easier than taking a bus that might be full in Tatopani. After a quick consultation, we decide to return to Pokhara the next day by 4x4. She finds us a 4x4 with 2 seats left, departure at 8 AM – 5 hours on the road and 1500 NPR per person. A charming didi who does everything to be pleasant and helpful.
Narchyang community lodge = night + snacks + dinner + breakfast = 3000 NPR.
There you go, our trek ends tomorrow. Many necessary changes and adaptations to our initial trek, but no regrets, it was superb and a great experience that, for my part, I won’t be able to repeat. Always this encounter with the endearing, welcoming, curious, and very kind Nepali people. It was now or never, and we did it!
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In conclusion, 3 full weeks in Nepal is a duration that allows visiting Kathmandu, Patan, and Bhaktapur, enjoying the various sites, and soaking in the atmosphere and urban Nepali life.
The trek, even revised and corrected, allowed us to get close to the impressive Annapurna and Dhaulagiri peaks. One or two acclimatization days might be necessary to get the body in tune with this magical and extraordinary land.
Hi there,
My partner and I are heading to Nepal for 15 days in March—she’s a schoolteacher. We’ll be trekking to Everest Base Camp and then doing the loop via the Gokyo Lakes.
We’d love to set up a fundraiser to donate to a school in Namche, along with visiting the school. It’s something that really matters to us. But it’s been tough to get in touch with a school—any ideas on how to go about this? Thanks!
My partner and I are heading to Nepal for 15 days in March—she’s a schoolteacher. We’ll be trekking to Everest Base Camp and then doing the loop via the Gokyo Lakes.
We’d love to set up a fundraiser to donate to a school in Namche, along with visiting the school. It’s something that really matters to us. But it’s been tough to get in touch with a school—any ideas on how to go about this? Thanks!
Hello my fellow globetrotters, could anyone tell me how to find the French colonial cemetery in Pondicherry? It seems tricky to locate.
Thanks so much for your help! Take care, pace yourselves, and travel far.
Cheers, Régine
Thanks so much for your help! Take care, pace yourselves, and travel far.
Cheers, Régine
I'm looking for a small, not-too-touristy restaurant in Fort Kochi. Do you know one not too far from Jacob Road?
Thanks
Hi there,
My wife and I are getting ready for this tour from March 27 to April 8.
I’d love to know if anyone’s traveled with Salaun Holidays before? How many people are usually in a group? How much cash should we bring?
We’re also unsure about what clothes to pack..... plus sheets and pillowcases?
And if you’ve got any tips to avoid being too bothered by beggars and touts.
Any advice you’ve got would be really helpful.
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’d like to travel to Rajasthan and the Ganges Valley—it’s my first time going on a long-haul trip, and I’m thinking of booking with BTtours from Belgium (or Salaün in France). Has anyone here traveled with this agency before and can share their experience? I was planning to go around November, but some people tell me it might still be pretty cold (around 8°C)—is that true?
Also, what’s the best way to get money there? Can you enter India with cash on you?
Thanks for your help!
Also, what’s the best way to get money there? Can you enter India with cash on you?
Thanks for your help!
hi everyone,
I’m planning a trip to Northern India (Rajasthan, Ganges Valley with Varanasi (Benares)).
My travel agency is offering me two tour operators: Asia with the "Saris and Saddhus" circuit, and Salaun with the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit. I’ve already traveled to Sri Lanka and Southern India with Asia. The trips went really well.
I don’t know Salaun Holidays. Their circuit seems more comprehensive, with a day of relaxation (16 days on site). Travel with Air France.
Has any member of this forum done the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit with Salaun? Can I get your feedback on the tour operator Salaun Holidays?
Thanks so much
I’m planning a trip to Northern India (Rajasthan, Ganges Valley with Varanasi (Benares)).
My travel agency is offering me two tour operators: Asia with the "Saris and Saddhus" circuit, and Salaun with the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit. I’ve already traveled to Sri Lanka and Southern India with Asia. The trips went really well.
I don’t know Salaun Holidays. Their circuit seems more comprehensive, with a day of relaxation (16 days on site). Travel with Air France.
Has any member of this forum done the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit with Salaun? Can I get your feedback on the tour operator Salaun Holidays?
Thanks so much





