Quel permis pour circuler et louer une moto aux Phillipines?
by Québécois46
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
pour moi peu importe j'ai le A et quand je me fais contrôler(c'est rare) je présente l'original, plutôt que ce grand machin en papier, qui ne résistera pas longtemps si grosse averse.On m'a jamais posé la question de savoir depuis quand j'étais là, alors que j'y reste 5/6 mois par an.une fois j'ai loué une bagnole sur Manille, pour une semaine, l'agence m'a demandé l'original et pas le PCI!!!!, mais en tout cas le permis 125, surtout obtenu à l'époque ou on le donnait gratos avec le B, n'est pas valable hors de France, c'est pour cela qu'il y a des préfectures qui ne le valident pas sur le PCI, si gros problèmes les assurances en profiteront pour dire que c'est"conduite sans permis valable"maintenant chacun fait ce qu'il veut, à vous de voir.
...Personnellement, le permis international m'a toujours été demandé en même temps que le PC national. D'ailleurs, l'un ne vaut rien sans l'autre.
Concernant le A1, contrairement à ce que vous pourriez penser, il est aussi valable que le permis A que vous detenez, en tout cas pour les anciens permis.
C'est en effet trés compliqué car il y a autant de différents permis A que de reforme de notre cher permis.
En fonction des dates d'obtention, il peut être valable à l'étranger (de mémoire ceux delivrés avant mars 1980). Vu avec mon assurance, et avec des juristes, mais je ne prétend pas détenir toute la la vérité, quand on sait que la loi est appliqué, et notamment dans certains pays (mais aussi en france), selon celui qui vous juge, et en premier lieu par les policiers qui vous contrôlent.
"On comprend toujours quand c'est trop tard"
Bonjour,
Depuis de nombreuses années j'utilise mon permis A1 pour conduire des scooter en Asie (Philippine et Indonesie notamment) et ce, sans aucun probleme, m'étant fait plusieurs fois contrôlé. A savoir qu'aux philippines, le permis international est valable 2 mois (comme le visa touriste du reste...). Le tout est que la categorie apparaisse bien sur le permis international qui seul fait foi.
Par contre, mais c'est une autre histoire, j'ai eu recemment qques problemes avec une prefecture qui refusait de me valider la categorie A1 (presente sur les recents permis internationaux), pour cause d'obtention de celle ci par conversion de brevet militaire (obtenu à l'armée donc). Or, ceci est illégal. Les categories présentent sur le PCI doivent refléter avec exactitude celle des permis nationaux. Autrement dit, s'il est fait mention d'une catégorie sur votre PC, elle doit apparaître de la même maniere sur votre PCI. Bonne journée
bonjour Passé 3 mois, seul le permis philippin est valide et obligatoire, surtout en cas d accident ou votre responsabilité est engagée . Sur Cebu city frequents contrôles en cas de penalty .
bonjour Passé 3 mois, seul le permis philippin est valide et obligatoire, surtout en cas d accident ou votre responsabilité est engagée . Sur Cebu city frequents contrôles en cas de penalty .
Il y a un accord bilateral entre la France (la Belgique aussi, par ailleurs) stipulant que le permis national est valable les trois premiers mois dans le pays visite, aussi bien en France qu'au Philippines.
Experience venue dans les deux sens.
Donc, permis Philippins valable en France 3 mois puis peut être convertit et vice-versa
Bien cordialement.
CouCou d'une perle des Philippines, Bantayan Island
Effectivement, la validité est de 3 mois... J'ai un peu hésité en mentionnant mois dans mon dernier post. Je me suis fait contrôlé aux alentours de Dumaguete, et cela m'a été signifié par le policier qui m'avait demandé mon passeport pour verifier ma date d'entrée....
"On comprend toujours quand c'est trop tard"
Pour conduire une voiture oui... Mais pas pour un scooter.
"On comprend toujours quand c'est trop tard"
Dessus il y a marqué voiture et moto jusqu'à 125 cm3. J'ai toujours conduit en France avec sans problème, même en cas de contrôle
cottet
...Vous voulez parler du permis A1, pas du B. Même si pendant un certain temps on obtenait d'office le A1 avec le permis B.
Comme exposé dans une précédente discussion sur le sujet, vous devez demander un PCI et surtout verifier que la categorie vous a bien été reporté sur celui ci. Néanmoins, c'est assez compliqué car, en fonction de la date d'obtention, votre A1 pourrait ne pas être validé par les préfectures, et où jugé invalide par les assurances si vous aviez un pépin.
De mémoire, tous les PC A1 obtenus (avec ou sans le B) avant mars 1980 sont éligibles pour obtenir un PCI donnant le droit de conduire jusqu'a 125cc à l'étranger (je me trouve dans ce cas).
Aprés, je ne rentre pas dans les détails mais ça se complique.
La legislation sur les permis ayant beaucoup changé ces dernieres années, il faut vraiment voir les choses au cas par cas, avec la prefecture ET votre assureur.
"On comprend toujours quand c'est trop tard"
c'est pour cela que passe 3 mois de présence aux philipines, il est bon de posseder un permis philippin type 1et type2.Les controles sont frequents dans des villes comme Cebu, le risque de penalty aussi.....paiement de la penalty direct au bureau de police du baranguay avec examen approfondit de votre situation.
En cas d accrochage benin votre permis est retenu , le temps de redaction du rapport de police faisant office de constat amiable et bien sur vous devez presenter votre contrat d assurance a jour.
votre adversaire est tenu de meme .Ca peut demander 2 Jours ... experience vecue.
Je circule environ 3 fois par mois sur Cebu city en voiture depuis 3 ans et 14 en moto...les verifications se sont intensifiees et le traffic a Considerablement augmente .. ..personne est a l abri d un accrochage...dans ce cas, votre situation sera verifiee et approfondie.....Ne tenter pas ke diable .. le foreigner est riche...il payera......on pourra toujours legalement demander et verifier vitre date d entree sur le territoire ......Un seul conseil, si je peux, par experience, eviter de jouer avec le feu.
Bonjour,
C'est bien cela le problème. Il ne faut pas s'attendre a ce que l'employé(e) de la location de moto ou de LTO connaisse toutes les finesses du permis de conduire délivré en Europe. Mais connaissant les compagnies d'assurances-voyage (en metropole) que vous payez pour soi-disant vous couvrir, il y a intérêt "d'être dans le clous" car si des grosses sommes d'argent sont en jeu, il vont rechigner à indemniser et prendre un bureau d'avocat de Manille pour tout éplucher et trouver la faille.
## What does Compulsory Third Party Liability insurance cover?
So what does Compulsory Third Party Insurance exactly cover? If the car accident is proven to be your fault, this insurance will give you protection from liabilities arising from the accident. Upon the death or bodily injury of third party victims, the insurance shall only cover up to P100,000 for the funeral or medical expenses that you’re liable to pay. Any amount exceeding that will be coming from you.
https://www.lto.gov.ph/frequently-asked-questions/license-permit
https://www.carmudi.com.ph/insurance/compulsory-third-party-liability-insurance-philippines-faqs/
C'est bien cela le problème. Il ne faut pas s'attendre a ce que l'employé(e) de la location de moto ou de LTO connaisse toutes les finesses du permis de conduire délivré en Europe. Mais connaissant les compagnies d'assurances-voyage (en metropole) que vous payez pour soi-disant vous couvrir, il y a intérêt "d'être dans le clous" car si des grosses sommes d'argent sont en jeu, il vont rechigner à indemniser et prendre un bureau d'avocat de Manille pour tout éplucher et trouver la faille.
## What does Compulsory Third Party Liability insurance cover?
So what does Compulsory Third Party Insurance exactly cover? If the car accident is proven to be your fault, this insurance will give you protection from liabilities arising from the accident. Upon the death or bodily injury of third party victims, the insurance shall only cover up to P100,000 for the funeral or medical expenses that you’re liable to pay. Any amount exceeding that will be coming from you.
https://www.lto.gov.ph/frequently-asked-questions/license-permit
https://www.carmudi.com.ph/insurance/compulsory-third-party-liability-insurance-philippines-faqs/
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