Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
Tunisie: ne partez pas sans savoir... tout ou presque sur les bezness et les arnaques sentimentales
by C2Paris
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Malik11, t'es adorable.
T'es passé de l'affolement à l'acceptation. C'est ça que j'avais pas compris. 😎
T'es passé de l'affolement à l'acceptation. C'est ça que j'avais pas compris. 😎
Mais non, c'est juste que c'est une collection noeud-noeud😏! Faut être un peu quiche, non, pour lire ça😎! Et tu en as qui croient ce qu'il est marqué dans arlequin et je pense que c'est les mêmes qui se croient belles au bras d'un beau tunisien avec plaquettes de chocolat et touti quanti😏!
Ce qui se conçoit bien s'énonce clairement
Allez l'OM !!
Passer pour un idiot aux yeux d'un imbécile est une volupté de fin gourmet !
Nier l'existance des bezness est pure Hypocrisie, ils sont visibles de loin, perso je condamne leurs agissements ceci étant les femmes qui succombent à leur charme le sont au meme titre, car que ce soit le bezness ou la touriste en mal d'affection ils portent tous les deux préjudice à la Tunisie et aux tunisiens honnetes.
HanNiBal
en partie d'accord avec toi, il y a des clientes volontaires ( et des clients aussi ) donc la pas de problème !
mais il y a des gamines qui sont encore naïves et qui se font avoir donc c'est bien d'en parler . le problème date, déja depuis des dizaines d'années ...mais quand ce n'étaient que les hommes qui allaient chercher des filles, ça faisait couler beaucoup moins d'encre . bon séjour au maroc. francia
mais il y a des gamines qui sont encore naïves et qui se font avoir donc c'est bien d'en parler . le problème date, déja depuis des dizaines d'années ...mais quand ce n'étaient que les hommes qui allaient chercher des filles, ça faisait couler beaucoup moins d'encre . bon séjour au maroc. francia
le mérite d'un homme réside dans sa connaissance et dans ses actes et non point dans la couleur de sa peau ou de sa religion!
Khalil Gibran
Et vous n'avez pas l'impression de vous écharper pour des choses vieilles comme le monde ?
La séduction, les sentiments, l'ambition et le pouvoir ?
Je crois que tu oublies le principal "l'argent"
Je crois que tu oublies le principal "l'argent"
Le ciel c'est comme la mer à l’envers,
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
"Tu prends quand meme la peine de lire, non?"
Non, je survole.
Michel
Non, je survole.
Michel
"Je crois que tu oublies le principal "l'argent""
Il est derrière l'ambition et le pouvoir.
Michel
Il est derrière l'ambition et le pouvoir.
Michel
😉 Je me disais aussi, tu ne prendrais pas part à des discussions aussi indignes de ta haute personnalité!
SO
" Je me disais aussi, tu ne prendrais pas part à des discussions aussi indignes de ta haute personnalité!"
Bof.
Michel
Bof.
Michel
Il est vrai qu'il se cache le bougre, c'est pour cela qu'il faut le nommer à haute et claire voix !
Le ciel c'est comme la mer à l’envers,
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
Tu as raison pour le Bof !
Le ciel c'est comme la mer à l’envers,
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
"Il est vrai qu'il se cache le bougre, c'est pour cela qu'il faut le nommer à haute et claire voix !"
Non. L'argent est seulement l'un des aspects, pas l'unique.
Michel
Non. L'argent est seulement l'un des aspects, pas l'unique.
Michel
Non.
Pour moi l'argent n'est pas un aspects mais l'unique mobile, la naïveté étant pour le sujet débattu ici, un vecteur aggravant.
Bon je laisse la place à Williana, c'est son service 😉
Bon je laisse la place à Williana, c'est son service 😉
Le ciel c'est comme la mer à l’envers,
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
"Pour moi l'argent n'est pas un aspects mais l'unique mobile, "
Les hommes ne se résument pas à cela ; la gloriole, même sans l'argent, ça suffit souvent. Je ne crois pas une seconde que l'argent soit le moteur principal de ces jeux.
Michel
Les hommes ne se résument pas à cela ; la gloriole, même sans l'argent, ça suffit souvent. Je ne crois pas une seconde que l'argent soit le moteur principal de ces jeux.
Michel
"Je ne crois pas une seconde que l'argent soit le moteur principal de ces jeux."
Alors là excusez moi mais les bras m'en tombent, je ne puis donc plus écrire !!
Alors là excusez moi mais les bras m'en tombent, je ne puis donc plus écrire !!
Le ciel c'est comme la mer à l’envers,
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
Ahhhh Lustucru j'ai aimé ton message 😉 Je l'ai même adoooooré !
Tu as parfaitement raison. Si tu as l'occasion de t'aventurer dans quelques discothèques djerbiennes tu remarqueras en effet l'abandon soudain de pas mal de principes et codes vestimentaires, tout cela en musique, sur un son "House" à peine connu sur la place de Paris 😎 En quelques minutes tu te retrouves dans un lieu qui dépasse l'entendement, branché, survolté, digne d'un Brooklyn ou Chelsea à NY. Cela m'a beaucoup frappée.
Alors justement revenonzzànosmoutons, les bezness et les jeunes musulmans bien pensants... sont-ils ouverts à ce genre de "fantaisies" de la part des jeunes tunisiennes ? Eh bien non, pour la bonne figure, les tunisiennes qui errent dans ces lieux n'ont rien à y faire d'après eux. Elles n'ont pas d'avenir si ce n'est dans les bras d'européens, et sont considérées, surtout dans le sud, comme des p..., termes employés à tout va pour dire qu'elles sont la honte du pays. A Tunis, les femmes semblent avoir plus de liberté et être davantage respectées mais les familles veillent et ne leur accordent pas toujours ce qu'elles demandent.
Elles sont peu nombreuses à avoir ce courage (car il en faut) d'extérioriser leurs désirs et leur liberté. Par conséquent et comme l'indique ton message, la plupart des femmes restent discrètes sur leurs intentions et utilisent des "issues de secours" tels que l'internet ou le mensonge. Elles sont humaines, de la même façon que nous européennes ou que vous canadiennes 😉
C'est inévitablement l'une des raisons qui explique le fait que les jeunes tunisiens entretiennent le plus souvent des relations avec les touristes. Ils se protègent ainsi des remarques déplaisantes de la part des copains ou la famille. Comme ils le disent très souvent "On respecte la mentalité des européennes, c'est normal qu'elles s'habillent sexy, elles ont le droit!... et pour nous c'est très tentant! 😎"
Tu as parfaitement raison. Si tu as l'occasion de t'aventurer dans quelques discothèques djerbiennes tu remarqueras en effet l'abandon soudain de pas mal de principes et codes vestimentaires, tout cela en musique, sur un son "House" à peine connu sur la place de Paris 😎 En quelques minutes tu te retrouves dans un lieu qui dépasse l'entendement, branché, survolté, digne d'un Brooklyn ou Chelsea à NY. Cela m'a beaucoup frappée.
Alors justement revenonzzànosmoutons, les bezness et les jeunes musulmans bien pensants... sont-ils ouverts à ce genre de "fantaisies" de la part des jeunes tunisiennes ? Eh bien non, pour la bonne figure, les tunisiennes qui errent dans ces lieux n'ont rien à y faire d'après eux. Elles n'ont pas d'avenir si ce n'est dans les bras d'européens, et sont considérées, surtout dans le sud, comme des p..., termes employés à tout va pour dire qu'elles sont la honte du pays. A Tunis, les femmes semblent avoir plus de liberté et être davantage respectées mais les familles veillent et ne leur accordent pas toujours ce qu'elles demandent.
Elles sont peu nombreuses à avoir ce courage (car il en faut) d'extérioriser leurs désirs et leur liberté. Par conséquent et comme l'indique ton message, la plupart des femmes restent discrètes sur leurs intentions et utilisent des "issues de secours" tels que l'internet ou le mensonge. Elles sont humaines, de la même façon que nous européennes ou que vous canadiennes 😉
C'est inévitablement l'une des raisons qui explique le fait que les jeunes tunisiens entretiennent le plus souvent des relations avec les touristes. Ils se protègent ainsi des remarques déplaisantes de la part des copains ou la famille. Comme ils le disent très souvent "On respecte la mentalité des européennes, c'est normal qu'elles s'habillent sexy, elles ont le droit!... et pour nous c'est très tentant! 😎"
Bonsoir
L'argent est derrière, bien masqué, n'est en général jamais utilisé comme argument principal.... en réalité il est bel et bien le principal moteur de ce type de manipulation. Puisqu'il est facteur de liberté, d'indépendance, de succès, de réussite.. Ceci étant tu as aussi raison de préciser qu'une petite gloriole peut suffire! Un smicard peut aussi bien attirer l'attention de ces requins... qui n'hésiteront pas de toute façon à prospecter ailleurs au moment opportun. Ce smicard (= 5 x le salaire moyen tunisien) peut toujours offrir quelques présents ou servir tout simplement de tremplin...
L'argent est derrière, bien masqué, n'est en général jamais utilisé comme argument principal.... en réalité il est bel et bien le principal moteur de ce type de manipulation. Puisqu'il est facteur de liberté, d'indépendance, de succès, de réussite.. Ceci étant tu as aussi raison de préciser qu'une petite gloriole peut suffire! Un smicard peut aussi bien attirer l'attention de ces requins... qui n'hésiteront pas de toute façon à prospecter ailleurs au moment opportun. Ce smicard (= 5 x le salaire moyen tunisien) peut toujours offrir quelques présents ou servir tout simplement de tremplin...
Voilà, voilà, c2Paris, exactement!
Plus aucun code vestimentaire, comportement sans équivoque et danse lascive digne des clubs de danseuses nues du Québec et de plus, l'alcool coule à flot. Le drink vodka/jus d'orange ne se commande pas au verre mais bien à à la bouteille servie dans un sceau à glace avec la bouteille de jus à côté. (dixit ma copine éberluée en janvier 2009). Le tout avec comme toile de son (lol) une musique tonitruante in et hot!
En 2008, lors de notre avant-dernier séjour, le p'tit directeur de la salle à diner, qui pétait plus haut que le trou, (expression québécoise signifiant pédant) venait souvent discuter à notre table. Il nous avait même proposé une sortie avec lui dans une autre disco bien connue à Sousse et qui, selon ses dires, était fréquentée par les touristes et l'élite tunisienne locale mais nous n'y sommes pas allées. Y'a une soirée spéciale tel jour, nous disait-il, si vous avez envie de voir comment les tunisiennes embrassent, font les french kiss...
Pour revenir à ma petite du net qui répondait en toute franchise à mes questions, elle me disait, on s'organise pour ne pas se faire voir, c'est discret et quand vient le temps de se caser (mariage), y'a une p'tite chirurgie "pour arranger tout ça".
Comme tu le dis si bien, elle sont humaines comme nous le sommes (homo sapiens à la base avant d'être formées ou déformées (?) par nos sociétés respectives et les valeurs qu'elles véhiculent) mais quand on se fait traiter de p... à bon marché pour un jean trop serré ou une jupe en haut du genou par ses compères et qu'on a envie de s'éclater.....et ben, faut se cacher!
Plus aucun code vestimentaire, comportement sans équivoque et danse lascive digne des clubs de danseuses nues du Québec et de plus, l'alcool coule à flot. Le drink vodka/jus d'orange ne se commande pas au verre mais bien à à la bouteille servie dans un sceau à glace avec la bouteille de jus à côté. (dixit ma copine éberluée en janvier 2009). Le tout avec comme toile de son (lol) une musique tonitruante in et hot!
En 2008, lors de notre avant-dernier séjour, le p'tit directeur de la salle à diner, qui pétait plus haut que le trou, (expression québécoise signifiant pédant) venait souvent discuter à notre table. Il nous avait même proposé une sortie avec lui dans une autre disco bien connue à Sousse et qui, selon ses dires, était fréquentée par les touristes et l'élite tunisienne locale mais nous n'y sommes pas allées. Y'a une soirée spéciale tel jour, nous disait-il, si vous avez envie de voir comment les tunisiennes embrassent, font les french kiss...
Pour revenir à ma petite du net qui répondait en toute franchise à mes questions, elle me disait, on s'organise pour ne pas se faire voir, c'est discret et quand vient le temps de se caser (mariage), y'a une p'tite chirurgie "pour arranger tout ça".
Comme tu le dis si bien, elle sont humaines comme nous le sommes (homo sapiens à la base avant d'être formées ou déformées (?) par nos sociétés respectives et les valeurs qu'elles véhiculent) mais quand on se fait traiter de p... à bon marché pour un jean trop serré ou une jupe en haut du genou par ses compères et qu'on a envie de s'éclater.....et ben, faut se cacher!
alors là vous commencez tous à me saouler...
si vous voyez ici, des filles voilées, vous vous dites, quel pays arriérée et quel integrisme, et si vous voyez des filles danser vous vous dites, what a shame!!!
ou voulez vous en venir excatment? on n'a le droit ni de danser, ni mettre des habits sexy? ni mettre le voile? mais c'est quoi ce cirque? c'est pour ça que je vous dis la tunisie est un pays très modéré, chacun peut mettre l'habit qu'il veut et sans etre traité de pute comme tu dis ( et en plus définissez le mote PUTE)
venant de pays ou y'a des clubs échangistes, de striptease, culbs homo et lesbiennes, et ou vous vous battez pour legaliser le mariage du meme sexe, vous etes mal placés pour juger notre sexulaité
vous, vous avez le droit de danser sexy et pas nous?!!!
je suis convaincue, que le plus beau moment de la femme, c'est quand on la drague et on la regarde,
la femme tunisienne aussi, aime vivre ce moment tous comme les femmes européennes ou canadiennes..ect
une simple question pour c2paris et lustucru, si vous me donneriez votre age et me feriez voir vos fotos, je comprendrais p-e pourquoi vous vous en voudrez tellement à ces jeunes belles tunisiennes et est ce que (si vous etiez accompagnées par vos copains) est ce que vous avez vu comment vos mecs regardent ces filles ou pas?
victimes, victimes, victimes...arretez svp, vous parlez des femmes européennes comme si c'étaient des saintes vierges, alors qu'elles sont en majorité des chieuses, des emmerdeuses et des manipulatrices,
moi de mes propres yeux j'ai vu, comment les gamines parlent à leurs mères ou pères, et c'est la honte, aucun respect ( alors qu'ici en tunisie c'est rare)
et si vous parlez de ces touristes, qui se baladent en maillot de bain ou bikini en plein centre ville (ici en tunisie), ect ce qu'ils font ça chez eux? ça m'étonnerait
moi pas mal de fois, des étrangers m'ont draguée vulgairement, mais est ce que j'étais dans un forum et dire ça, non, parce que je sais que cet homme il est fait comme ça, que ce soit étranger, tunisien, il draguerait toujours, c'est dans son comportement animal (primitif), alors arretez de dire, tunisien, musulman....
LA LOI NE PROTEGE PAS LES CONS!!!!!!
et si t'es une conne ou con qui se jette dans les bras du premier venu (ou venue) alors vous mériterez bien ce qui vous arriverez
et arreter de parler de bezness, parce que ce n'est un réseau, ni une mafia, mais ce sont qlqs voyoux qui n'ont aucun bagage intellectuel ou scolaire, reveurs surtout d'une vie meilleure alors tous les moyens lui sont permis, c'est comme les hawckers, chez vous qui vous volent votre argent par un simple virus...le but est le meme mais les moyens sont differents..chacun et ses atouts, voilà
l'argent, voilà le blème, faut parler de ça, quand l'argent devient un dieu, tout est permis..parout dans le monde, la devise commune c'est l'argent, qu'on soit, noir, jaune, rouge ou blanc....
Hélas vous pouvez pas changer le monde, ça serait tjs ainsi, et ça était tjs comme ça depuis le temps de cain et abel....
quand on voyage c'est à nous de se faire au pays pas le contraire...
Mais comme meme un conseil, si une femme ou un homme se sente menacé ici par ce soit disant bezness, elle (il) n'a qu'à porter plainte chez les flics, notre gouvernement ne tolère pas ça et mène une lutte sans merci contre les voyous et les délinquants ....
quand on voyage c'est à nous de se faire au pays pas le contraire...
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Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
Tickets for entry to Majorelle Garden are only issued online via an official site
(though there are fraudulent sites out there). On the official site, they ask for legitimate info
(name, nationality, etc.). What made me go "hmm" was the request for both an email address
AND a password (with confirmation). Is this normal?
Thanks for your replies.
Hi there, a group of girlfriends and I are heading to Tunisia. We’d love to know how much cash we should bring for 6 days, considering everything’s already paid for at the hotel. Thanks for your tips!
Hi everyone! :)
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!