by by la copine , toi tu reviens sur le prochain vol , elle reste au japon
Z'êtes sûr que c'est pas "le prochain viol" ?
😕
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
😕comme pour la junte thai au pouvoir , faut pas avoir d état dame pour ce job pour la mafia thai - nippone( ah oui mafia thai supervisée par la junte militaire ou bien ! c est plutot encore la police qui gère tout ce traffic ).
😕 encore un autre aspect du pays du sourire et de ses gentils thailandais.
😇 pour rester dans le sujet la guerre civile est finie , mais le combat continue
on pourrait bien voir , des rouges faisant appel a l UN contre la torture et abus de maltraitance en thailande en distribuant aux touristes des tracts " halte a la torture en thailande "" vive la thailande libre.
ca bouge du coté de UN et autre ; voir ici nouvelle lettre ouverte a la junte militaire au pouvoir.
( trop long pour traduire )
Thailand: Chaining of wounded detainees
Saturday, 19 June 2010, 2:15 pm
Press Release: Asian Human Rights Commission
Thailand: Chaining of wounded detainees under Emergency Decree
The Asian Human Rights Commission (AHRC) is writing to you regarding the treatment of detainees under the state of emergency that your government has imposed in Bangkok and other provinces of Thailand in response to protests that gripped the capital in recent months.
The AHRC has numerous grave concerns regarding circumstances of arrest and detention under the state of emergency imposed via the Emergency Decree BE 2548 (2005), which the AHRC strongly opposed from the time of its introduction under the government of your predecessor, Pol. Lt. Col. Thaksin Shinawatra.
One of these concerns relates to the highly problematic provision that detainees under the decree not be held in official places of detention by virtue of their peculiar legal status as persons under custody but not charged with any offences. According to information currently available through various sources, among detainees being held in non-official detention facilities are persons who were wounded during the protests, who are being held in separate wards in medical facilities, and who are allegedly being chained to their beds.
Two cases reported in the media in recent days were of Mr. Jaran Loiphun (age 39) and Mr. Nattapon Thongkhun (age 20), of Bangkok, both of whom were shot during the military crackdown on the Ratchaprasong protest.
Nattapon was reportedly shot three times in front of the Lumpini Police Station on 14 May 2010. According to Nattapon, around noon on 14 May he and his friends were driving motorbikes from Petchburi Road to meet friends at Sathorn Road. When they reached the area in front of Lumpini Police Station, a group of protestors were burning a police bus on Wireless Road. When soldiers shot into the group of protestors, a shotgun blast went into his shoulder, and an M16 bullet went into his hand. He tried to get up to ask for help, but another shotgun blast hit his left leg. The protestors brought him to the Police Hospital. Nattapon explained that one day after that, as he was coming out of anaesthesia following surgery, police came to interrogate him. They accused him of violating the Emergency Decree. He was moved from a bed for ordinary people to a room for people facing accusations; there was another injured protestor in the room with him. He has since been shackled to his bed, g uarded by police officers and allowed only short visits from family.
Jaran was reportedly shot twice at Pratunam intersection on 19 May 2010. The first shot was from a shotgun and was embedded in his left leg. The second bullet was from an M16 and went through his hand. According to Jaran, on the afternoon of 19 May, he was walking towards the area of Pratunam intersection. He saw a group of 4-5 soldiers walking about 20 metres in front of him. He was afraid and so he began to run away. But this group of soldiers shot at him. Jaran said that after he was hit by the shotgun he tried to get up and run again and the soldiers shot him with the M16. Jaran has also reportedly been shackled to the hospital bed, and he is being guarded by police officers.
For many years, the AHRC and other concerned organisations and individuals have voiced outrage at the shackling and otherwise barbaric treatment of accused criminal prisoners in Thailand. In the aftermath of the crackdown on the protests, there are also many reports of persons detained under the Emergency Decree in ambiguous and uncertain circumstances being similarly ill-treated.
As Thailand is now a member of the UN Human Rights Council, it should not be necessary for the AHRC to remind your government of its obligations under international law; however, in light of the many reports of the sort cited above in recent days, we draw your attention to the UN Standard Minimum Rules for the Treatment of Prisoners, under Rule 33 of which "chains or irons shall not be used as restraints" and other instruments of restraint shall be used only during a transfer of detainees as a precaution against escape, on medical grounds by order of a medical officer, or as a means to prevent self harm. Clearly, none of these circumstances apply in the cases described above.
The government of Thailand should be further aware that under the UN Convention against Torture, to which it is a party, the chaining of wounded detainees could constitute an act of cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment that would place it in clear violation of its responsibilities under international law.
Aside from being uncomfortable and humiliating for the persons in custody, this type of maltreatment engenders other types of abuse, and an attitude of contempt towards detainees among security personnel. In its most extreme form, it results in the handling of detainees as mere objects rather than human beings at all, leading to events such as the mass deaths in military trucks of persons in Narathiwat after the protests outside the Tak Bai Police Station of 2004. For this reason, all types of chaining and custodial maltreatment that are either explicitly endorsed through law or tacitly encouraged through routine practices are worthy of strong condemnation.
Accordingly, the Asian Human Rights Commission urges your government to ensure that all persons detained under the Emergency Decree are treated with human dignity and respect and specifically that wounded persons held under the decree are not chained or otherwise restrained while receiving treatment in hospital.
The AHRC also takes this opportunity to call for a full accounting of persons being held under the decree, for the prompt bringing of charges or release of all these persons, for all of these persons to be guaranteed their civil rights, including their rights of access to lawyers and family members, and to be guaranteed their rights to be free from torture and other forms of human rights abuse. Finally, we again call upon your government to lift the state of emergency without any further delay and return your country to the rule of law rather than rule by decree and the de facto military administration under which it has been placed in recent weeks.
Yours sincerely
Basil Fernando
Director
Asian Human Rights Commission, Hong Kong
Cc:
1. Mr. Chaowarat Chanweerakul, Minister of Interior, Thailand
2. Mr. Peeraphan Saleeratwipak, Minister of Justice, Thailand
3. Mr. Kasit Piromya, Minister of Foreign Affairs, Thailand
4. Homayoun Alizadeh, Regional Representative, OHCHR, Bangkok, Thailand
5. UN Working Group on Arbitrary Detention
6. UN Special Rapporteur on the question of torture
Les pôvres incendiaires/lanceurs de grenades, on leur met des chaînes !
(En Thaïlande, un simple voleur de bicyclette en a aussi, des chaïnes 😉)
Pour "la revanche", c'est clair que des criminels de cet acabit ne vont pas lâcher
le morceau comme çà, c'est pour cette raison d'ailleurs que l'Etat d'Urgence va
rester en vigueur pour encore un bon bout de temps !
🙂
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
L'étau se resserre contre le chef des rouges !!!
voir ICI l'Express
😇 depuis ce post! qu est ce qu il y a comme coincidence!!!!
Fin Mai taksin est a Paris apres avoir séjournée en russie
L élysee rend visite a taksin a Paris a son hotel qui se situe tout pres de l élysee
Un sarkozy est membre du clan taksin - groupe soros
Sarkozy president est en russie aujourdhui - scellé un contrat de construction de deux tours a la défense - financé par la russie a la hauteur de deux ou + milliards €.
🤪 ce financement ne serais ce pas le groupe soros en fin de compte en passant par la russie
Est ce qu on ne sait pas poser la question ce que faisait taksin a Paris a part acheter un sac louis vuiton.🤪
Le meme jour que le contrat est signé . Un rouge se fait décendre a Korat ( assasin présumé abibi & co)
Le camp rouge s enflamme
Les médias du dimanche ( le premier the nation ) écrit que les rouges ont de nouveaux leaders , près a repasser a la bataille
L avocat de taksin ( amsterdam) rencontre les autorités francaises - pas de commentaire dans la presse sur la rencontre
Les nations units bombardent abibi & co ltd de lettre de contestation " sur les droits de l homme " et demande de lever l état d urgence et de respecter les lois internationales , autorisé enquète UN sur les 90 tués lors des manifestation des rouges.
alors !!! que va t il se passer dans les prochaines semaines en thailande😇
Pour "la revanche", c'est clair que des criminels de cet acabit ne vont pas lâcher
😏 pour la prochaine partie de la révolution , les médias étrangers seront du coté des rouges , 😄thaiboss aura moins
a argumenter avec les mengwan & co ltd. ça risque meme de devenir nonotone , faudra assaisonner tout ça a temps .
😄Allez Khun mengwan , on a quand meme encore de beaux jours devant nous avec la nouvelle révolution .
Moi je connais déja des singes qui vont s enflammer a l idée d une nouvelle révolution
Bonjour , Je voulais juste te remercier d'avoir ecrit cela . Quoi qu'on aime , il y a en a pour tout le monde ici et c'est presque toujours que du bonheur . La preuve , nombreux sont ceux qui reviennent souvent .
Alors je souhaite de tres bonnes vacances a votre ami dans notre pays .
Merci encore de ta lettre .
si les mengwan & co ltd veulent etre informé de plus près sur la nouvelle révolution
Ben, je vous informe alors, moi ...
Cette planète, chaque jour, fait une révolution autour de son axe !
Bonne révolution demain ...
😎
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
😎KHUN MENGWAN c est quoi ça??????????MON TEL ROUGE N A PAS ENCORE SONNER
Posted Yesterday, 22:43 THE NATION
Another Round of Havoc Cannot Occur
Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva hints at a possibility of a third round of widespread chaos while the Special Branch of the Royal Thai Police said intelligence showed more troubles for Thailand are brewing and they are just around the corner. If the premier and the police's Special Branch are correct, it means confirmation of plans to mount another round of chaos has already surfaced.
The next question now who is (are) behind the next round of chaos. What are they trying to achieve? If there are more violent incidents in Thailand, no one will benefit, be they the government, the Opposition, or even the red-shirts. I believe the majority of the red-shirts don't wish to see more chaos. They want to fight for democracy at the next general election.
A new election is a chance for the majority to make their voice recognized and to show that they have the final say in who they wish to be the next government. A new election cannot be obtained through another burning spree.
Therefore, whoever is behind the next round of destruction, don't mean well to Thailand. They are havoc wreckers especially when the Truth and Reconcilation Committee has been established to begin the peace process while few more committees are tasked to work at reforming the country.
Those who question the neutrality of these committees can express their objection and raise concerns. By all means they can propose a way out for Thailand or bring out truths in the open. Paving way to a new election in order to resume democratic progress in Thailand is what all of us want.
Any masterminds of the next destruction are traitors and must be dealt with by the justic system. We cannot allow Thailand to be hurt anymore.
Democrat may seek help from Army to guard head office
Democrat Party director Natthapol Teepsuwan said he will consult Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban about seeking help from the Army to send troops to guard the head office ahead of protests by the red-shirt people.
Natthapol said the Democrat head office is now being guarded by 100 policemen until Friday when the Supreme Court will read the verdict in the assets seizure case against former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra.
The party director said he will consult Suthep as to whether troops should be deployed to help police guard the Democrat head office.
The Nation
Tourists told to avoid protests in Bangkok Supporters of ousted Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra march during a rally on the northern outskirts of Bangkok on Friday. Tourists in the Thai capital should brace for more traffic than usual and avoid sites near anti-government protests this weekend that authorities fear could turn violent, the government spokesman said Wednesday.
si les mengwan & co ltd veulent etre informé de plus près sur la nouvelle révolution
Ben, je vous informe alors, moi ...
Cette planète, chaque jour, fait une révolution autour de son axe !
Bonne révolution demain ...
😎
En tout les cas sur cette planète; le monde et et les lois sont à refaires...
et demain sera un autre jour sans cesse meilleur...
à défaut des exceptions comme le Roi qui a assurément élevé son niveau de personnalité au statut de Bouddha...
Ce dernier c'est fait prendre à médire sur le compte de Taskin lors d'une question en entrevue...il a alors porter sa main à sa bouche; comme s'il n'avait pas fallu parler contre Taskin...
Taskin qui sera jugé en cour Suprême; ne verra plus que l'ombre de son personnage...
Ces chances de le voir réapparaitre; sont aussi mince que la dernière épaisseur de la neige qu'on aurait pu observer en Thaïlande...si vous voyez ce que je veux dire!!!
Et oui mon ami; le monde est à refaire...
Le jour où l'homme comprendra les vraies valeurs de la nature humaine...ont pourra effectivement dicter les lois de la nature...
C'est donc de dire... que la nature fait sa loi!...et quant est-il de la plus pur des personnalité humaine???
Tant que cette question demeurera;...eh ben le monde continuera de faire révolution autour de son axe...😕
Toutes les lois possibles ont presque vu le jour...jusqu'à ce jour et la base de l'homme se situe entre l'oriental et l'occidental...
Le Roi de la Thaïlande est celui qui est le mieux placer selon moi pour être: EINT TEI POUN NEI HAN...(je suis dominant)
...l'important n'est pas la destination mais l'expérience de ce que le voyage nous apporte...
😏Bonjour , le tel rouge a sonné chez thaiboss ce matin🤪
la révolution d octobre ça dit quelque chose a mengwan😕 moi non
toujours est t il qu un nouveau leader des rouges ( pas des siam rouges n est ce pas ) émerge et veut instauroré un systeme a la suédoise en thailande. le nouveau partit part de € o ( donc il est laissé en libre pensées si taksin finance ou pas). prochain test le 29 Aout lors d une élection locale. le monsieur s appelle Khun Boonsong , en fait c est un thai expat suédois revenue en thailande , comme cela les rouges auront deux partis politiques le phua thai et le nouveau.
ben juste pour signaler que les rouges s organisent aussi bien en clandestiné qu a découvert.
et si entre la révolution et des élections libres le master venait a mourrir , 🏴☠️ aux armes citoyens
tu melanges ..... pour etre condamner pour lese majeste, ou du moin sous procedure judiciaire ,
il faut avoir prononcer des paroles ou acte negatif, insultant enver sa majeste l'appele a
commetre un crime, diffamation c'est des delit punis par la loi dans la plupars des pays,
rien avoir avec le lese majeste .
(Chat-lut, )
Cà, c'est la théorie ...
Lors d'une remise de "récompenses" un acteur s'est fendu d'un discours "enflammé" pour
manifester son amour et sa reconnaissance envers SM "le père de la nation" ...
Cet acteur vient d'être inculpé (par "la Police") pour ... lèse-majesté !!!!
🏴☠️
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Pas de probleme si quelqu'un residant hors Bangkok subit des troubles , qu'il me contacte . Mais je voudrais bien savoir ou il y a probleme et nous sommes des milliers voir des dizaines de milliers d'etrangers a vivre a l'annee ici et tout est tres calme .
🏴☠️ sans commentaire
By The Associated Press
Sunday, July 25, 2010 at 4:51 a.m.
BANGKOK — Police in Thailand's capital say at least nine people have been wounded by a bomb explosion at a bus stop in downtown Bangkok.
Police Maj. Gen. Anuchai Lekbamroong, at the site of the explosion Sunday, declined to speculate whether the bombing was related to Thailand's political turbulence in the wake of mass protests earlier this year.
The bomb exploded shortly after voting ended in a parliamentary by-election which pitted a government candidate against a jailed leader of the Red Shirt movement that staged the protests, which were broken up by the army in mid-May.
😇 il y a 5 possibilités. je te mets ce que la presse rouge pense.
🤪 en anglais , kik yaet wann nee pour traduire en francais
Context 1: The emergency decree context involves calls for the lifting of the Emergency rule of about 40% of Thailand and Bangkok had been deepening-with even a staunch government-high profile Anund-calling for the lifting. Many Thai press says a rift is deepening with the upper crust rule of Thailand to lift or not to lift-with Abhisit, the Thai prime minister-making mixed statement between a quick lifting and lifting in stages.
Context 2: The global professional security analyst context is another. Many global top level security analyst-have been saying that the emergency rule of Thailand-with widespread repressions-will force the red shirt underground. Some says the red shirt have split into two movement-an IRA like violent arm of the Red Siam and the Red Shirt main group-following of the current peaceful red leaders who are imprisoned under terrorism charges.
Context 3: Many analysis on the red shirt side-have been writing articles and doing analysis that points to the government-first-using the emergency to quell their opposition leading up to future election-in a bid to use the repression as a way to ensure winning of the election-then the second school with the red shirt-is that the government intends to "Create Events" to keep the justification of keeping the emergency decree going-as a way to remain in power-and escaping having to face the polls.
Context 3: Another context is the existence of the radical instigator-and this can not be discounted out. First, a great many people have been killed in the brief Civil War in Thailand about two months ago-and revenge and hateful feelings runs deep-and independent of politics. Secondly, apart from this, weapons and knowledge of bombs making is widespread in Thailand and there are political forces outside the "Normal Mainstream" channels-who could be instigating a violent bombing campaign. It should also be noted-that there are a great deal many radical fringe political thinking-inside mainstream political forces-such as the Sivichai Warrior of the yellow shirt. Lastly, the Thai military and intelligence apparatus-have always held their own agenda.
Context 4: Terrorist in Thailand's Deep South, another context, have been copy-catting many methods of the red shirts-such as targeting economic targets. And their bombing devices are getting quite "Varied." Preliminarily indication from the Thai police-points to similar bombing device to the terrorist in the Deep South-in some occasions.
Context 5: The overall mood and tone of Thailand is another context. The Thai military and the government-making up much of the upper crust rule of Thailand-is coming under increasing pressure-with many mainstream press becoming highly critical of both-on a variety of question such as corruption, bad management, and double standard legal and police system. The government and the military-came to power backed by a wave of Nationalism. Clearly, the latest bombing fist into the game plan of the government and the military to create fear of the reds as being anti-Thailand-and they the upper crust rule-are the ones who loves Thailand.
Context 5: The overall mood and tone of Thailand is another context. The Thai military and the government-making up much of the upper crust rule of Thailand-is coming under increasing pressure-with many mainstream press becoming highly critical of both-on a variety of question such as corruption, bad management, and double standard legal and police system. The government and the military-came to power backed by a wave of Nationalism. Clearly, the latest bombing fist into the game plan of the government and the military to create fear of the reds as being anti-Thailand-and they the upper crust rule-are the ones who loves Thailand.
Mais poser des bombes et sussurer "c'est pas moi ... c'est lui" çà ajoute l'ignominie à la lâcheté !
On verra, il y a fort à parier -des suspects ont été répérés sur la vidéo-surveillance- que, comme
pour l'attentat précédent on tombera sur ... des "gardes rouges" ... (*)
(pour cet attentat-là aussi, on avait eu droit au mêmes supputations sussurées, jusqu'à ce qu'on
retrouve les coupables ... au Cambodge d'où ils ont été extradés).
🙂
(*) Les coupables n'ont rien à craindre, il leur suffira de se présenter aux élections !
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
(*) Les coupables n'ont rien à craindre, il leur suffira de se présenter aux élections !
quand on pense que celui qui fait campagne; le fait à partir du fond de sa céllule...ça en dit long!!! quoique le résultat des votes du scrutin sont assez surprenants...l'écart final n'était pas si énorme...
...l'important n'est pas la destination mais l'expérience de ce que le voyage nous apporte...
LE CHIFFRE DE LA SEMAINE - 86,8% d'augmentation des dépenses militaires depuis le coup d'Etat
86,8%, c'est le taux d'augmentation des dépenses militaires depuis le coup d'Etat de 2006, qui sont passées de 86,7 milliards à 162 milliards de bahts en 2009, selon les données du Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (Sipri), institut d'études stratégiques chargé d'étudier l'importance des conflits et de la coopération pour la paix mondiale. En comparaison, de 2001 à 2006, l'augmentation du budget militaire avait été de 15%, de 75.4 à 86,7 milliards.
"Quand l'injustice devient loi, la rébellion devient devoir. " Thomas Jefferson
« Le doute est l’apanage des gens intelligents, les cons n’ont que des certitudes »
(Alain Leblay)
LE CHIFFRE DE LA SEMAINE - 86,8% d'augmentation des dépenses militaires depuis le coup d'Etat
86,8%, c'est le taux d'augmentation des dépenses militaires depuis le coup d'Etat de 2006, qui sont passées de 86,7 milliards à 162 milliards de bahts en 2009, selon les données du Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (Sipri), institut d'études stratégiques chargé d'étudier l'importance des conflits et de la coopération pour la paix mondiale. En comparaison, de 2001 à 2006, l'augmentation du budget militaire avait été de 15%, de 75.4 à 86,7 milliards.
Il faut noter tout de même que les 10 milliards de bahts ne sont pas reconductibles dans
leur majorité mais correspondent à de "l'investissement" ...
Ceci dit, le budget militaire de la Thaïlande n'est pas du tout alarmant, il correspond à
la taille du pays et est même dans la "moyenne basse" par rapport au PIB.
Par contre, le dirigeable me laisse rêveur (des mini-drônes de surveillance m'auraient paru
plus judicieux pour le "Grand Sud" -mais je ne suis pas expert dans ce domaine).
🙂
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Ceci dit, le budget militaire de la Thaïlande n'est pas du tout alarmant, il correspond à
la taille du pays et est même dans la "moyenne basse" par rapport au PIB.
🤪 on sait que les généraux thais sont tous des millionnaires , avec leur solde de 60.000 baht par mois.
Le budget militaire thai est équivalent a celui de la france voir 42 Milliards € pour la france ce qui fait en thai baht 168milliards , et on ne va pas dire que l armé thailandaise est plus chere en entretient que l armee francaise n est ce pas😏
😏je mets ça pour khun mengwan , car a l instant il y avait une émission a la telé sur le budget militaire francais de 42 Milliars au lieu de 52 il y a deux ans.
😮alore pourquoi les militaires thais on t ils besoin d autant de sous , ah oui le salaire d un soldat thai est de l ordre 120 € , celui du soldat francais aprox 1325 € brut nourri logé sans prime de combat EN PLUS LA thailande n a pas de nucléaire , pas de rafale ou autre armement de pointe , voir meme les satelites et les moyens de communication ultra sophistiqué des francais
, porte avions nucléaire , sous marins etc...
86,8%, c'est le taux d'augmentation des dépenses militaires depuis le coup d'Etat de 2006, qui sont passées de 86,7 milliards à 162 milliards de bahts en 2009, selon les données du Stockholm
😄QUE VIVE LA REVOLUTION , sacré bleu 🏴☠️ comment se battre contre les 168 milliards confisqués au peuple rouge
On y voit clairement que la Thaïlande est très loin du "peloton" de tête des dépenses militaires ...
(Il se trouve aussi que la répartition des rôles Armée/Police étant différent de ce qu'il est cheu nous,
les chiffres doivent encore être "modérés" -pour simuler un "périmètre" équivalent, comme si on
ajoutait les budgets des CRS, Gendarmerie etc ... à celui de l'Armée en France)
🙂
PS:
- Un "millionnaire" en bahts, çà fait pas grand'chose, ici on peut juste s'acheter une Corolla avec "un million" !
- Thaksin, l'idole incontestée du "peuple rouge" (sic), s'est toujours dém.rdé pour ne pas payer d'impôts,
et c'est avec l'argent des impôts qu'on paye le budget militaire ... 😉
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Bonjour,
Il te faut rester réaliste, avec les pieds sur terre et comparer les choux avec les choux et les carottes avec les carottes 😉
Les dépenses militaire pour la France sont de 28,62% du PIB alors qu'elles sont de 10,3% pour la Thaïlande
Thaïlande PIB 519000 m$ - armée 5028 m$
France 1607210 m€ - 45991 m€
Y a pas de quoi fouetter un chat 😇
"Quand l'injustice devient loi, la rébellion devient devoir. " Thomas Jefferson
« Le doute est l’apanage des gens intelligents, les cons n’ont que des certitudes »
(Alain Leblay)
(Il se trouve aussi que la répartition des rôles Armée/Police étant différent de ce qu'il est cheu nous,
les chiffres doivent encore être "modérés" -pour simuler un "périmètre" équivalent, comme si on
ajoutait les budgets des CRS, Gendarmerie etc ... à celui de l'Armée en France)
d'ailleurs on a bien vu lors des manif que l'armee/police n'etait en aucun cas preparer a faire face a des emeutes, aucun vehicules anti-emeute, aucune formation...equiment tres loin d'etre adequate . a travailler...
le PIB augemente normal que les depenses en tout genre vont aussi augementer, plus tu gagnes plus tu depenses..logique=)
et bon l'armee ou police doit faire face a la guerilla du sud, la lutte anti drogue du nord, les tension avec le cambodge sur les frontieres et la avec les rouges certainement plus d'homme affecter a la securiter, un plan vegi-pirate? =)
equiment tres loin d'etre adequate . a travailler...
+1
De plus, on a quasi pas de grêves ici, le niveau de vie augmentant çà va bien arriver
aussi et il faudra prévoir le coup ... (comme des remplaçants dans l'enseignement ...).
🙂
PS:Le titre racoleur du "Petit Journal" de Bangkok ne révèle -une fois de plus *- que
le naufrage de ce canard dans des profondeurs abyssales ...
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
De plus, on a quasi pas de grêves ici, le niveau de vie augmentant çà va bien arriver
aussi et il faudra prévoir le coup ... (comme des remplaçants dans l'enseignement ...).
Ce n'est pas une citation de "thailande-fr", mais du porte-parole du parti PT (Parti Thaksin) ...
A la place du gouvernement, je poserais plainte immédiatement pour dénonciation calomnieuse,
en tous cas on verra -comme je l'ai déjà dit- lors de l'arrestation des coupables (s'ils s'enfuient
au Cambodge, ce pays les renverra !).
Et c'est au moment de cette arrestation que "le Monsieur qui susurre" devrait s'en aller pourrir
en prison, là où est la place de ce genre d'individu !
😕
NB:Le gouvernement n'a pas besoin de poser des bombes pour maintenir l'Etat d'Urgence, c'est
lui seul qui décide !!! (rappel apparemment pas inutile d'une évidence absolue)
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
NB:Le gouvernement n'a pas besoin de poser des bombes pour maintenir l'Etat d'Urgence, c'est
lui seul qui décide !!! (rappel apparemment pas inutile d'une évidence absolue)
Même schéma tactique qu'au Myanmar !
La Junte Birmane pose aussi ses bombes pour créer un climat de terreur
Même schéma tactique qu'au Myanmar !
La Junte Birmane pose aussi ses bombes pour créer un climat de terreur
🤪 ce que la junte thai fait , 😮 c est de payer un bon petit paquet de thai baht a ceux qui se porte volontaire comme coupable , puis quand tout est oublié sur la personne , elle est libéré sur caution payé par la junte.
Même schéma tactique qu'au Myanmar !
La Junte Birmane pose aussi ses bombes pour créer un climat de terreur
🤪 ce que la junte thai fait , 😮 c est de payer un bon petit paquet de thai baht a ceux qui se porte volontaire comme coupable , puis quand tout est oublié sur la personne , elle est libéré sur caution payé par la junte.
Là, typiquement, on change de registre pour entrer dans un domaine "religieux" (où les faits n'ont pas
d'importance face à la foi ...).
Etant dès lors incompétant, je vous laisse à l'adoration de votre divinité !
RMQ: On a le Dieu qu'on peut, le vôtre il pue (sorry)
🙂
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
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Bonjour à tous,
pouvez vous me donner vos avis sur mon itinéraire de 3 semaines.
nous sommes un petit groupe (famille + amis) 12 personnes, nous envisageons de partir vers le 21 Janvier 2027.
voici mon itinéraire:
3 nuits Bangkok
4 nuits Chang Mai
3 nuits Koh Samui
3 nuits Koh Phangan
4 nuis Krabi
4 nuits Phuket
Si suis également preneur de tout vos bon plan....
Merci à tous, Alain.
J'ai besoin de conseils avisés sur ces 2 destinations, en 15 jours
Nous atterrissons à KL on pense y reste 2 jours puis partir sur Bornéo et terminer par une ile pour snorkeling.
Pour ceux qui ont déjà fait quels sont vos incontournables?
on se disait peut être de consacrer 3 jours les derniers aux iles Perenthian, a moins que vous ayez uen ile à me conseiller proche de Bornéo,
Merci pour vos conseils et votre aide
Bonjour je souhaite préparer un séjour de 15 jours en Malaisie, l'idée serait de visiter KL sur 2/3 jours puis Bornéo, le reste du temps, qu'en pensez vous? et terminer par les iles Perenthian...je veux bien vos avis vos conseils et je vous remercie
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip?
I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Hello.
In 1996, we crossed Vietnam from Saigon to Hanoi by motorbike—Minsk bikes we bought in Saigon. I haven’t been back since, and it seems like a lot has changed.
- We’re heading to the south (well, the north and center) with the family in July-August (3 people).
- Is the road network more developed now? Back then, there was only National Route 1 from south to north. I’m thinking of renting a car this time (no motorbike with the family—though in ’96, they had a Jawa sidecar for sale, and we hesitated… maybe it’s for the best).
- Is Halong Bay really something to avoid because of overtourism? Even back then, it was pretty crowded. Is there a less touristy alternative?
- We’ll be traveling from Hanoi down to Danang (the only city we didn’t stop in back in ’96). Even though it’s a bit overhyped in a Chinese-tourist kind of way (from what I’ve read), we’re only going for the beach—pure relaxation for 7 days. The beaches are stunning, and I know the South China Sea is warm like coffee.
- Then, we’ll visit Hoi An, where I stopped in ’96. It was already popular with backpackers back then, but no glowing boats or all the touristy fuss!
- After that, Hue, where I have great memories—it’s a beautiful city.
- And also the nature around Ninh Binh, followed by 2-3 days in Hanoi.
That’s the plan. I’d love to hear any tips to avoid mass tourism, and if anyone’s done this before:
- Is it possible to rent a car in Danang and drop it off in Hanoi?
Hey everyone,
I’m over in East Borneo in mid-July.
I’m struggling to wrap up the end of my itinerary, even though it’s pretty straightforward (long but simple).
Last year, we did Malaysia (KL and the mainland + around Kuching).
Day 1 – Arrive in Kota Kinabalu early, stroll around town and hit the must-sees.
Day 2 – Excursion to Tunku Abdul Rahman Park, snorkeling at 3 islands.
Day 3 – Hike around Mount Kinabalu without summiting (450 per person, no way).
Day 4 – Poring Hot Springs + evening flight to Sandakan.
Day 5-6-7 – Kinabatangan River (still looking for the right guide).
Day 8 – Sepilok for the orangutans, the Sun Bear Centre, and Rainforest Discovery Centre.
Day 9 – Selingan, turtle island.
Day 10 – Head to Semporna.
Day 11-12-13-14 – Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai.
Day 15 – Bohey Dulang.
Day 16 to Day 25: I’M STUCK.
I looked into Danum Valley, but for 3 days/2 nights, they’re quoting 650 € per person—come on, that’s ridiculous.
I checked out a detour into Indonesia (still East Borneo), but I’m having trouble deciding what would be amazing.
I read about Sangalaki + Kakaban (2 islands, 1 base) / Mahakam Delta - Kutai (orangutans and river) / Sungai Boh (Dayak Kayan) – jungle & culture.
But honestly, I’m struggling to finalize this itinerary.
If we venture that way, we’d head back to KK from Balikpapan.
For a 4-month stay in Egypt, I had ENORMOUS problems. The regulations are very bureaucratic and extremely nitpicky there. For a 4-month stay in the Philippines, I was wondering if the procedures are just as complicated? I’m bringing my cell phone with an eSIM. Should I choose a plan from Canada for use in the Philippines, or should I get a plan only once I arrive? After 30 days, do I renew with the Canadian provider I chose before leaving, or do I switch to a local company? Do I need to register my phone with the authorities in the Philippines? (That was the case in Egypt.) For the 3rd and 4th months, will it be just as simple—renewing with a Canadian or local provider—or should I expect problems?
Hello,
I’ll be in Malaysia with my wife, mainly in Langkawi and Penang for Christmas and New Year’s at the end of 2026.
If you’ve had the experience—and since I’ve read (though it’s not very clear) that these two islands get quite crowded during this period—would you recommend booking accommodation well in advance, or is it easy to find something on the spot?
Hotels or Airbnb?
Do you have any great tips for accommodation or any practical info to share?
We’ll be staying 5 to 7 days on each island.
Thanks in advance for your replies
Hi there. To make the most of Lake Toba, is it better to find accommodation on the lake’s shores (which one?) or on Samosir Island? Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Vietnam as a family on July 8th for a little over 3 weeks (north and center). We’ve only booked the first 3 nights in Hanoi, and nothing else after that. We like to decide things on the spot and go with the flow, without rushing everywhere. But I’m still a bit unsure: when heading down to the center (Hue), is it better to book the overnight trains in advance? We don’t want to take any flights while we’re there—just use the overnight train for the long trips. But I’m worried we won’t get seats if we buy the tickets on the spot, say, 2 days before. What do the experts here think? And which website can we use to book the tickets? Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone!
I’m heading back to Thailand in July 2026 with a stopover in Cambodia to visit the Angkor site.
After Angkor, I’ve booked a stay on Ko Chang island. Does anyone know if there are direct transport options from Cambodia to Ko Chang without having to go back through Bangkok? That would be amazing!!
I think there are, but I’d need more details!!
I went to Thailand in February 2025 and don’t remember having to apply for a visa—is that still the case now? And for Cambodia too?
Thanks so much!!!
Laurence from Bayonne
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai?
Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai.
My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok:
No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna:
From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄).
Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM.
Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau:
Found this via AI—is it legit?
No online booking, as far as I can tell.
Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly????
And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning
March 24: Phnom Penh
March 25: Phnom Penh
March 26: Depart for Kampot
March 27: Kampot
March 28: Depart for Battambang
March 29: Battambang
March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap
March 31: Siem Reap
April 1: Siem Reap
April 2: Siem Reap
April 3: Siem Reap
April 4: Siem Reap
April 5: Departure
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta.
21/09: Borobudur
22/09: Prambanan
23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang)
24/09: Bromo
25/09: Kawa Ijen
26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran
27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran
28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk
29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk
30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk
01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud
02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud
03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud
04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo
05/10: Komodo cruise
06/10: Komodo cruise
07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo.
08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar
09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore
10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !
Supporters of ousted Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra march during a rally on the northern outskirts of Bangkok on Friday. Tourists in the Thai capital should brace for more traffic than usual and avoid sites near anti-government protests this weekend that authorities fear could turn violent, the government spokesman said Wednesday.
