Thaïlande... ou Philippines?
by Ba0ng
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Salut a tous 🙂
Je ne veux surtout pas polémiquer non plus mais juste dire que le malentendu vient du racourci de dire que les philippins sont plus authentiques que les thais, cela ne veut rien dire. Il aurait fallu dire que le sourire philippin est plus authentique que le sourire thai, la c'est compréhensible. Sinon cela veut dire qu'un thai n'est pas un vrai thai alors qu'un philippin est un vrai philippin, absurde non? 😉
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
surtout pas de polémique boum, alors les filipinas, plus jolies que les thaïes ou pas ? (ou bien comme on dirait ici...😉)
Quand l'eau baisse les fourmis mangent les poissons; quand l'eau monte les poissons mangent les fourmis.
Il n'y a que le changement qui ne change pas.
C'est bien. Vous m'avez convaincu. Les Philippins sont donc plus authentiques que les Thaïs. On n'en parle plus...
Passons à autre chose : les Espagnols sont ils plus authentiques que les Norvégiens ?
Passons à autre chose : les Espagnols sont ils plus authentiques que les Norvégiens ?
"Le touriste apparait comme le principal agent de diffusion du mépris anti touristique. Plus le touriste se voit en miroir de l'autre, plus il le déteste".
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
haha bravo. je ne sais pas mais les arabes bien plus que les juifs ;)
que veux tu qu on y fasse nous s il existe des caracteristiques sociales ? etre authentiques c est une donnee tres latine, ca ne m etonne pas que ce soit plus philippin que thai, c est une honte pour bcp de montrer ce qu on est en asie. aux philippines aussi cependant, je parle de contact avec la population, pas de for interieur.
ceci dit je prefere l omelette norvegienne a la tortilla
Henri,
En fait les thais ne sont pas authentiques car ce sont en fait des birmans déguisés en thai pour venir travailler en Thailande, donc pas de vrai thais 😉 le seul moyen de les reconnaitre c'est de leur demander de chanter l'hymne national, ca ne loupe jamais 😄😄😏😏😛 D'ailleurs je me demande si je suis un authentique singe a lunettes ou alors si le singe est factice a moins que ce ne soient les lunettes qui sont fausses? 😇
En fait les thais ne sont pas authentiques car ce sont en fait des birmans déguisés en thai pour venir travailler en Thailande, donc pas de vrai thais 😉 le seul moyen de les reconnaitre c'est de leur demander de chanter l'hymne national, ca ne loupe jamais 😄😄😏😏😛 D'ailleurs je me demande si je suis un authentique singe a lunettes ou alors si le singe est factice a moins que ce ne soient les lunettes qui sont fausses? 😇
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
tout a fait d accord j avais fait un raccourci en pensant qu entre gens intelligents... ;P
d ailleurs je ne parlais pas de gens authentiques mais de rapport authentique, je me disais qu il y a moins de detours avec les philippins, pour les connaitre par ex ou comprendre ce qu ils pensent et qui ils sont, qu en thailande. mais c est une sensation qui concerne d ailleurs la personne qui nous interroge puisque je suis la dps 3 semaines, ce qu il compte rester en asie.
attention c est une generalite. cependant si on me demandait quelle difference il y a entre les espagnols et les norvegiens, je parlerais aussi de contact humain sans doute... et je generaliserais (genre : les espagnols sont tres conviviaux et aiment trainer a l exterieur, ce que permet une meteo clemente plus qu en norvege ou on se caille... ) c est comme de dire que les plages ici et les plages la, alors qu en thailande les plages de Koh SUrin sont aussi belles que certaines plages philippines mais bon hein, et puis je bouffe tres bien depuis que je suis la mais je n ai pas ose le dire...
bref oui on generalise c est pas si mal non ? en socio, en justice, qd on parle des touristes ds sa signature ;)
attention c est une generalite. cependant si on me demandait quelle difference il y a entre les espagnols et les norvegiens, je parlerais aussi de contact humain sans doute... et je generaliserais (genre : les espagnols sont tres conviviaux et aiment trainer a l exterieur, ce que permet une meteo clemente plus qu en norvege ou on se caille... ) c est comme de dire que les plages ici et les plages la, alors qu en thailande les plages de Koh SUrin sont aussi belles que certaines plages philippines mais bon hein, et puis je bouffe tres bien depuis que je suis la mais je n ai pas ose le dire...
bref oui on generalise c est pas si mal non ? en socio, en justice, qd on parle des touristes ds sa signature ;)
mais de rapport authentique, je me disais qu il y a moins de detours avec les philippins, pour les connaitre par ex ou comprendre ce qu ils pensent et qui ils sont
certainement que le caractère philipin est plus proche de la mentalité européenne dû à son histoire récente emprunt de culture espagnole et américaine.
Tandis que le caractère thaï est plus hérmétique et donc plus particulier dû aussi à son histoire plus isolée du monde occidental, et donc moins accessible à la compréhension occidentale.
c'est pas "les mêmes ondes", mais en faisant du tuning, on y arrive.
un khmer p.ex., se sentira plus proche d'un thaï que d'un philipin
certainement que le caractère philipin est plus proche de la mentalité européenne dû à son histoire récente emprunt de culture espagnole et américaine.
Tandis que le caractère thaï est plus hérmétique et donc plus particulier dû aussi à son histoire plus isolée du monde occidental, et donc moins accessible à la compréhension occidentale.
c'est pas "les mêmes ondes", mais en faisant du tuning, on y arrive.
un khmer p.ex., se sentira plus proche d'un thaï que d'un philipin
Quand l'eau baisse les fourmis mangent les poissons; quand l'eau monte les poissons mangent les fourmis.
Il n'y a que le changement qui ne change pas.
Bonjour Derwick,
"Si t es jamais allee aux Philippines comment peux tu savoir qu il y a des typhons la bas grande gueule !!"...
m enerve ces gens donneurs de lecons la :)
Peux tu m'expliquer ce billet d'humeur à mon encontre ? J'ai beau relire mes dernières interventions, je ne vois pas où j'aurais pu laisser croire un instant à donner des leçons à qui que se soit...! D'autant qu'il y a bien longtemps que je n'ai pas parlé de typhons.... 🤪 J'en conclu donc que tu t'es trompée de cible ?
N'étant pas rancunier, je te souhaite une bonne intégration au pays du sourire. Mabuhay
"Si t es jamais allee aux Philippines comment peux tu savoir qu il y a des typhons la bas grande gueule !!"...
m enerve ces gens donneurs de lecons la :)
Peux tu m'expliquer ce billet d'humeur à mon encontre ? J'ai beau relire mes dernières interventions, je ne vois pas où j'aurais pu laisser croire un instant à donner des leçons à qui que se soit...! D'autant qu'il y a bien longtemps que je n'ai pas parlé de typhons.... 🤪 J'en conclu donc que tu t'es trompée de cible ?
N'étant pas rancunier, je te souhaite une bonne intégration au pays du sourire. Mabuhay
Voilà de quoi ;tu as parlé;
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Les philippines je ne connais pas et je viendrai bientot poster pour me renseigner sur ou aller. Si tu voyages bientot attention a la saison des pluies violente aux philippines.
Tu as tendance a te mélanger un peu les pinceaux, tu attaques sur tous les fronts......BLABLABLA te diront les Philippins qui sont d'origine Malaise comme les Thailandais d'ailleurs! C'est normal comme , tu le dis Les Philippines, tu ne connais pas!😉 tu ne parles pas de typhon;mais de pluies tropicales! Tu dois être habituée aux cours magistraux en solo......mais je suis sur que tu peux être drôle surement considérée comme un peu matcho girl , pour toute la race Asiatique! Bises Philippines! Au plaisir de te voir😛 Nav😉
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Les philippines je ne connais pas et je viendrai bientot poster pour me renseigner sur ou aller. Si tu voyages bientot attention a la saison des pluies violente aux philippines.
Tu as tendance a te mélanger un peu les pinceaux, tu attaques sur tous les fronts......BLABLABLA te diront les Philippins qui sont d'origine Malaise comme les Thailandais d'ailleurs! C'est normal comme , tu le dis Les Philippines, tu ne connais pas!😉 tu ne parles pas de typhon;mais de pluies tropicales! Tu dois être habituée aux cours magistraux en solo......mais je suis sur que tu peux être drôle surement considérée comme un peu matcho girl , pour toute la race Asiatique! Bises Philippines! Au plaisir de te voir😛 Nav😉
Les Thailandais ne sont pas d'origine Malaise. 😉 Ils sont d'origine... Thai tout simplement 😛
exact mon ami , perdu mon latin, je voulais parler des indonésiens!
Mea culpa.....je suppose aussi un certain mélange de races vu la proximité!
le but étant de souligner une certaines mixitée y compris avec les chinois des habitants des Philippines!
Nav😉
En plus en escale à Bangkok sur le retour en 2009, ces cons de douaniers Thaïlandais m'ont piqué la bouteille de Tanduay acheté en zone internationale à Manila pourtant sous plastique fermé transparent et conforme aux achats internationaux..... du racket!
Alors l 'accueil Thai.......😉 mauvais souvenir de la race thai!!
Voulais vu mon insistance à la conserver que je boive la bouteille sur place!
Tout celà parce que j'allais traverser leur zone commerciale......j'ai même demander à me faire accompagner à leur zone d'embarquement directement mais rien à y fait.....finit par vider la bouteille dans le CR....hahahaha
;pas de cadeau pour les fripouilles!
le copain à qui je destinais ce cadeaux n 'a pu goûter le bon rhum des Philippines !LOL
exact mon ami , perdu mon latin, je voulais parler des indonésiens!
Mea culpa.....je suppose aussi un certain mélange de races vu la proximité!
le but étant de souligner une certaines mixitée y compris avec les chinois des habitants des Philippines!
Nav[/citation Les origines malaises c'est comme les typhons et les tempêtes tropicales, on peut se mélanger les pinceaux...
Mea culpa.....je suppose aussi un certain mélange de races vu la proximité!
le but étant de souligner une certaines mixitée y compris avec les chinois des habitants des Philippines!
Nav[/citation Les origines malaises c'est comme les typhons et les tempêtes tropicales, on peut se mélanger les pinceaux...
Oui mais toi qui arrive comme un cheveu sur la soupe, je n'ai jamais dis!

"Si t es jamais allee aux Philippines comment peux tu savoir qu il y a des typhons la bas grande gueule !!"...
m enerve ces gens donneurs de lecons la :) 
En plus je connais bien les Philippines, donc a qui ce message était destiné?? donc non concerné et non destinataire de ce message! ni à Nagandoy, ni à moi! CQFD mélange de pinceaux! je nai juste que souligné, le paroxysme entre ne pas connaitre les Philippines et les soit disantes pluies violentes non caractéristiques de ce pays sur le Sud et l'ouest dans 70% du territoire! nav
be cool and zen!

"Si t es jamais allee aux Philippines comment peux tu savoir qu il y a des typhons la bas grande gueule !!"...
m enerve ces gens donneurs de lecons la :) 
En plus je connais bien les Philippines, donc a qui ce message était destiné?? donc non concerné et non destinataire de ce message! ni à Nagandoy, ni à moi! CQFD mélange de pinceaux! je nai juste que souligné, le paroxysme entre ne pas connaitre les Philippines et les soit disantes pluies violentes non caractéristiques de ce pays sur le Sud et l'ouest dans 70% du territoire! nav
be cool and zen!
Ou lala on va le savoir que tu connais les Philippines...
bon maintenant suffit, arrête de me casser les c.....je te pris !
je te le dis poliment et je ne pense jamais t"avoir adressé la parole!
Vis ta vie et passe ton chemin!
si tu as du temps à perdre et jouer les trolls comme tu le fais dans tous tes posts qui n 'apportent rien, que des réflexions de débile, je me ferai un plaisir de saisir le modérateur et te faire virer d'ici!
N😉av
Ps;j'invite à aller visiter ton profil et lire tes interventions précédentes qui sont de haut intérêt!
Ps;j'invite à aller visiter ton profil et lire tes interventions précédentes qui sont de haut intérêt!
En plus en escale à Bangkok sur le retour en 2009, ces cons de douaniers Thaïlandais m'ont piqué la bouteille de Tanduay acheté en zone internationale à Manila pourtant sous plastique fermé transparent et conforme aux achats internationaux..... du racket!
Peux-tu nous apporter des précisions car je n'ai jamais été fouillé à BKK. Peut-être que tu comptais monter dans l'avion en ayant la bouteille avec toi ?
Peux-tu nous apporter des précisions car je n'ai jamais été fouillé à BKK. Peut-être que tu comptais monter dans l'avion en ayant la bouteille avec toi ?
eh oui autorisé sous plastique fermé en flacon et visé dans mon bagage à main, comme les achats de parfum et autres souvenirs achetés en zone internationale aéroportuaire.
Comme les parfums Chanel que tu peux acheter à Charles de Gaulle ou à bord de l'avion et apporter comme cadeau à un ami étranger!
Nav
Et non, J'ai suivis le trajet en transit comme tout un chacun et obligé sans discussion possible de repasser la douane .
Ce que j en 'ai pas manqué de signaler à ces douaniers; billet et preuve d'achat à l'appui et la bouteille toujours sous plastique scéllé.
j"ai même repris le même avion en transit pour une escale technique de une heure pour complément de carburant et nettoyage.
j étais le seul passager en provenance de Manila via Taipei sur Taiwan , parti de Manila par un petit avion puis monté sur un Boeing 747 de China Airlines, depuis TAIPEI ou cette bouteille n'a soulevé aucun problème à l"embarquement.
Aucune possibilité de rester à bord pour cette escale à Bangkok, comme il m"est arrivé souvent sur La Lufthansa, en stop à Canton pour escale technique de pouvoir rester à bord , venant de Frankfort et destination finale Manila .
Nav
Oui mais c"est la stricte vérité;d ailleurs en sortant du 747 à Bangkok , nous sommes sortis de l avion et avons emprunté un couloir en baie vitrée surplombant la salle d"'embarquement.Nous avons contourné ces salles puis sommes passés a coté des boutiques puis sommes repassés à la douane pour revenir à cette fameuse salle d'embarquement avant de ré embarquer dans le même Boeing 747
Je pense avor même des photos!
Nav
Exact Jack, puisque aprés avoir fait le tour complet par le haut , à travers les baies vitrées, j'ai reconnu la salle d'embarquement située en dessous du sas par le quel je suis arrivé, quelques minutes aprés, ayant du retraverser la zone des contrôles douaniers. Puisque notre avion n'avait pas changé de place, j"ai bien resitué le lieu.
Alors que nous aurions pu effectivement prendre un ascenseur et descendre directement dans cette salle d'embarquement dés notre arrivée!
nav😉
tiens, on dirait que vous commencez à découvrir l' Universel !!!
il est où le modérateur qui m'empêche toujours de répondre à celui ou ceux qui depuis for longtemps ne donnent plus aucune indications utiles et qui maintenant injurie ?
Alors c'est lequel qui connait , aime ou sert le plus et/ou le mieux les Philippines ?
ybug
Oulah...voilà l'arrière-garde qui rapplique.
Il semble qu' il n' y a pas que des gens bons à Bayonne, à voir les attaques systématiques et hargneuses que vous lancez régulièrement à l'encontre de Navi.
Lequel par parenthèse est infiniment plus utile à ce forum que vos ronchonnements incessants à son égard.
Il semble qu' il n' y a pas que des gens bons à Bayonne, à voir les attaques systématiques et hargneuses que vous lancez régulièrement à l'encontre de Navi.
Lequel par parenthèse est infiniment plus utile à ce forum que vos ronchonnements incessants à son égard.
en principe en transit tu ne repasse pas de controle douanier , c'est une aventure qui arrive regulierement a roissy cet histoire de bouteille qui peut arriver aussi bien aux philippines on ne peut pas generaliser a partir d une anecdote
pour avoir eu des controles routier avec la police thai et philippines le rapport a ete strictement le meme cordial mais payant pareil pour les administrations genre LTO ou j ai use mes bermudas et immigration j ai retrouver les memes caracteristiques
Quand tu te promenes a makati ou bkk les offices girls ne sont pas plus sympatiques souriantes ou faciles ici ou la au detour d un soi ou d une ruelle le sourire de la marchande de soupe ou le turo turo te feront le meme sourire car tu leur fais l honneur de patronizer leur echoppe a la campagne les memes sourires dans les petites entreprises les memes ambiances paternalistes la place de la famille est la meme ainsi que la place des femmes dans la societe
les plus grosses differences c'est quand meme l influence chinoise sur la thailande qui amene une plus grande richesse culturelle par rapport a aux philippines plus primitives (ca se voit a la cuisine entre autre)
la grandes differences c'est que la thailande est un pays naturellement plus riche ou tout pousse , l eau est abondante et reguliere ( un peu moins dans lest de l issan) qui s'est developpe plus rapidement que les philippines plus pauvre ou souvent que les cocotiers poussent
un petit detail il y a de moins en moins de familles nombreuses en thai , ce n'est pas seulement le fait de la religion mais surtout de la modernisation de la societe
bon voyage
ps j ai pas mal voyage dans ma vie mais maintenant je n ai envie d aller que dans ces 2 pays la 😉
pour avoir eu des controles routier avec la police thai et philippines le rapport a ete strictement le meme cordial mais payant pareil pour les administrations genre LTO ou j ai use mes bermudas et immigration j ai retrouver les memes caracteristiques
Quand tu te promenes a makati ou bkk les offices girls ne sont pas plus sympatiques souriantes ou faciles ici ou la au detour d un soi ou d une ruelle le sourire de la marchande de soupe ou le turo turo te feront le meme sourire car tu leur fais l honneur de patronizer leur echoppe a la campagne les memes sourires dans les petites entreprises les memes ambiances paternalistes la place de la famille est la meme ainsi que la place des femmes dans la societe
les plus grosses differences c'est quand meme l influence chinoise sur la thailande qui amene une plus grande richesse culturelle par rapport a aux philippines plus primitives (ca se voit a la cuisine entre autre)
la grandes differences c'est que la thailande est un pays naturellement plus riche ou tout pousse , l eau est abondante et reguliere ( un peu moins dans lest de l issan) qui s'est developpe plus rapidement que les philippines plus pauvre ou souvent que les cocotiers poussent
un petit detail il y a de moins en moins de familles nombreuses en thai , ce n'est pas seulement le fait de la religion mais surtout de la modernisation de la societe
bon voyage
ps j ai pas mal voyage dans ma vie mais maintenant je n ai envie d aller que dans ces 2 pays la 😉
la grandes differences c'est que la thailande est un pays naturellement plus riche ou tout pousse , l eau est abondante et reguliere ( un peu moins dans lest de l issan) qui s'est developpe plus rapidement que les philippines plus pauvre ou souvent que les cocotiers poussent
C'est faux. Les Philippines ont choisit de juguler la pauvreté en incitant la population à travailler à l'étranger. Les Philippins qui ont de la famille à l'étranger préfèrent gagner 5000 pesos à garder la maison d'un proche qui vit à l'étranger que de bosser. Les Philippins qui ont émigrés sont des bosseurs mais nombre de ceux resté au pays sont des branleurs.
C'est faux. Les Philippines ont choisit de juguler la pauvreté en incitant la population à travailler à l'étranger. Les Philippins qui ont de la famille à l'étranger préfèrent gagner 5000 pesos à garder la maison d'un proche qui vit à l'étranger que de bosser. Les Philippins qui ont émigrés sont des bosseurs mais nombre de ceux resté au pays sont des branleurs.
Assez d'accord: la pauvreté actuelle des Philippines ne vient pas de son environnement ou de ses ressources naturelles. Et les Philippines se sont à l'origine développées beaucoup plus rapidement que la Thaïlande: dans les années post guerre et sous Marcos les Philippines étaient la première puissance économique d'Asie du sud. Le décrochage actuel vient de multiples facteurs mais entre autre de la mainmise de quelques centaines de familles qui jouent leur enrichissement personnel contre le développement économique du pays. Et puis de l'absence de transition démographique à cause de l'emprise de l'église catholique.
Et puis de l'absence de transition démographique à cause de l'emprise de l'église catholique.
Cela ne joue que très peu ce qui joue c'est la mentalité des philippins qui utilisent leurs enfants comme caisse de retraite. Ils disent que leurs enfants subviendront à leurs besoins lorsqu'ils seront vieux. Ils ont donc beaucoup d'enfants car ainsi ils seront certains de survivre lorsqu'ils seront âgés. Je n'ai jamais entendu un philippin dire quelque chose comme "je veux avoir plus d'enfants pour servir Dieu " mais "mes enfants prendront soin de moi lorsque je serais vieux".
Cela ne joue que très peu ce qui joue c'est la mentalité des philippins qui utilisent leurs enfants comme caisse de retraite. Ils disent que leurs enfants subviendront à leurs besoins lorsqu'ils seront vieux. Ils ont donc beaucoup d'enfants car ainsi ils seront certains de survivre lorsqu'ils seront âgés. Je n'ai jamais entendu un philippin dire quelque chose comme "je veux avoir plus d'enfants pour servir Dieu " mais "mes enfants prendront soin de moi lorsque je serais vieux".
pas d accord a par la plaine centrale de luzon et les montagnes de baguio + mindanao mais pas trop accessible le reste est tres pauvre et c'est vrai que il est souvent plus facile d attendre que la noix de coco tombe ( je connais pas mal palompon leyte par ex )
pour les travailleurs emmigres c'est pareil en thailande tu n imagine pas le nombres de gens qui partent en coree taiwan secheilles emirates etcc evidement pour leur facilite de communication l anglais et leur filiere maritime et house maid les philippins avaient un creneau par ex a taiwan il y avait dans les usines textile et autres des thais des philippins et des indos, les patrons preferaient quand meme les thai spour leur durete au travail et leur moindre sensibilite aux problemes exterieur ou personel , bon c'est une generalisation basee sur des faits quand meme 😉
pour les travailleurs emmigres c'est pareil en thailande tu n imagine pas le nombres de gens qui partent en coree taiwan secheilles emirates etcc evidement pour leur facilite de communication l anglais et leur filiere maritime et house maid les philippins avaient un creneau par ex a taiwan il y avait dans les usines textile et autres des thais des philippins et des indos, les patrons preferaient quand meme les thai spour leur durete au travail et leur moindre sensibilite aux problemes exterieur ou personel , bon c'est une generalisation basee sur des faits quand meme 😉
Encore une fois tu te trompes, les Philippines ont vu un décollage industriel dès les années cinquante et jusqu'à la fin des années 70 où ils étaient loin devant la Corée, Taiwan, la Thailande ...etc. La pauvreté n'a pas toujours été à ce niveau. La chute s'est faite pendant les années 80 après people's power.
Assez d'accord: la pauvreté actuelle des Philippines ne vient pas de son environnement ou de ses ressources naturelles. Et les Philippines se sont à l'origine développées beaucoup plus rapidement que la Thaïlande: dans les années post guerre et sous Marcos les Philippines étaient la première puissance économique d'Asie du sud. Le décrochage actuel vient de multiples facteurs mais entre autre de la mainmise de quelques centaines de familles qui jouent leur enrichissement personnel contre le développement économique du pays. Et puis de l'absence de transition démographique à cause de l'emprise de l'église catholique.
pas vraiment d accord les annees marcos on ete marque par des apport d argent americain qui on un peu developpe manille et les 100 familles , pendant ce temps la la thailande etait deja premier exportateur mondiale de riz puis de caoutchoux etc quand tu vois la taille de la grande plaine centrale et toute la gestion de l eau que ca demande tu ne comparerais pas avec les phils pour ce qui est de la demographie les familles thaies dans les annees 60 avait aussi 10 enfants et c'est surtout la modernisation (pas l education qui serait plutot meilleure aux phil)qui a fait que tu retrouves maintenant plutot 2 enfants par famille , bon c'est vrai que le catholisisme n aide pas
j etais deja dans les annee 70 dans ces 2 pays et tu pouvez voir la difference
pas vraiment d accord les annees marcos on ete marque par des apport d argent americain qui on un peu developpe manille et les 100 familles , pendant ce temps la la thailande etait deja premier exportateur mondiale de riz puis de caoutchoux etc quand tu vois la taille de la grande plaine centrale et toute la gestion de l eau que ca demande tu ne comparerais pas avec les phils pour ce qui est de la demographie les familles thaies dans les annees 60 avait aussi 10 enfants et c'est surtout la modernisation (pas l education qui serait plutot meilleure aux phil)qui a fait que tu retrouves maintenant plutot 2 enfants par famille , bon c'est vrai que le catholisisme n aide pas
j etais deja dans les annee 70 dans ces 2 pays et tu pouvez voir la difference
C'est quand même dramatique que quand tu vas dans une grande surface pour acheter du lait de coco, on te fourgue un Tetrapak provenant de Thailande, alors qu' ici les cocotiers poussent partout! Même chose pour le riz , importé, et dont 1 million 700 tonnes pourrissent dans des entrepôts....Mais il y a quelques politicards qui ont pris leur commission au passage, bien entendu.
c'est pareil en thailande ou ce sont quelques centaine de famille qui detienne toutes les ressources qui ont conserve un niveau de vie si bas pour leur profit
voila un connaisseur des phils yes des branleurs qui attendent la solde du mois en exploitant le travailleur qui selon eux à eu la chance de partir travailler à l'etranger et de les fournir en pesos?
et avec la complicite de l'epouse phil cela va de soi.
les phils yes tres beau pays à visiter comme la thailande mais apres tu epouses la phils ou la thay meme combat c'et une affaire de portefeuille ou toute la famille en profite
pour moi ok j'ai du repondant c'etait juste pour repondre à une veritee de l'asie
bravo le viex from bohol😎
et avec la complicite de l'epouse phil cela va de soi.
les phils yes tres beau pays à visiter comme la thailande mais apres tu epouses la phils ou la thay meme combat c'et une affaire de portefeuille ou toute la famille en profite
pour moi ok j'ai du repondant c'etait juste pour repondre à une veritee de l'asie
bravo le viex from bohol😎
pas vraiment d accord
Tu as effectivement le droit de ne pas être d'accord avec les faits.
Back in 1960, the country (philippines) had the second-highest per capita income in Asia, lagging behind only Japan. But by the following decade, South Korea and Taiwan had surpassed it, and by the 1980s, Malaysia and Thailand had, too. China overtook it in the late 1990s. And now--an event that many Philippine elite thought they would never live to see--Indonesia has sailed past the Philippines.
Tu as effectivement le droit de ne pas être d'accord avec les faits.
Back in 1960, the country (philippines) had the second-highest per capita income in Asia, lagging behind only Japan. But by the following decade, South Korea and Taiwan had surpassed it, and by the 1980s, Malaysia and Thailand had, too. China overtook it in the late 1990s. And now--an event that many Philippine elite thought they would never live to see--Indonesia has sailed past the Philippines.
Salut Renosu
Voilà une discussion intéressante!
Tu sais peu importe cette histoire de bouteille et bien effectivement , je pense que cela peux se passer n'importe ou dans le monde; j'ai juste développé cette anecdote car Jack connait bien l'aéroport de Bangkok est à parfaitement compris la manœuvre!
Les douaniers Thaï par contre m'ont paru beaucoup plus mal aimables et bornés compte tenu des preuves apportées;trés intransigeants car étant dans mon bon droit!
Peut être à cause des évènements politiques à cette époque et l afflux de touristes???
je suis plutôt d 'accord avec tes explications!
En ce qui me concerne je préfère les espaces maritimes des Philippines et la diversité offerte des 7000 îles de l'archipel....il me reste beaucoup à visiter!
Et puis, dés que mon installation aux Philippines sera définitive;en période creuse je ferai surement un tour en Thaïlande et surtout en Malaisie et Papouasie, la mer des Célèbes me fascine😉!
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Bonjour,
De Malacca pour rejoindre Jerantut, est-ce préférable de retourner sur KL et d'y prendre un bus ou de prendre un bus pour Tampin et ensuite un train? Des retours sur le "train de la Jungle"? (durée, prix, confort...). Merci
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Bonjour à tous,
Nous partons fin septembre pour Flores, puis Bali,
Nous avons déjà visité les deux mais souhaitons, une fois à Labuan Bajo, partir en bateaux vers les iles Komodo, voir un peu les fameux varans,
Je ne souhaite pas dormir sur le bateau mais faire plutot une visite à la journée,
Quelqu'un aurait il un prestataire sérieux et sympa à nous conseiller,
Merci d'avance et bel été à tous
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
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Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
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