From Bangkok to Krabi, Thailand by Car!
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HE Herodotos Regular ·
This country is certainly very touristy—too much so in some places—but it still holds many treasures.

True, but I didn’t enjoy Thailand—overtourism wasn’t the only issue—for various more or less subjective reasons. That said, we have wonderful memories of our peaceful stay on the island of Ko Yao Noi. And that’s exactly why we won’t be going back ten years later. Too afraid of being disappointed. I much preferred the neighboring countries, especially Vietnam, which we’ve returned to.

To each their own...
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
I don’t think I’ll be going back to Vietnam, Laos, or Myanmar—at least not to the parts I’ve already visited. My trips to that region were over 20 years ago, well before overtourism (or even tourism in general, in Laos’s case). I’d be too afraid of facing today’s reality. 🤪

Thailand has the advantage of being an easy country where you can even rent a car. It’s definitely the "behind the wheel" aspect that made me enjoy this new trip so much. It’s totally different from my previous experiences in that way. 😛

I don’t know if it’s possible (or easy) to do that in former Indochina? Not being able to rent a car has become a dealbreaker for my travel choices.
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HE Herodotos Regular ·
Hi Muriel

Also, Ko Yao Noi and Ko Yao Yai are among my potential beach spots (but I found very little recent info, which is maybe a good sign

What’s a bad sign, though, is when I check Google Maps and other sites, I see that the little guesthouse next to our hotel residence has disappeared, the hotel itself has changed owners and tripled its prices in ten years, and hotel structures have sprung up like mushrooms. It seems this friendly Muslim community of fishermen and rubber planters has traded their traditional activities for more lucrative ones... Just like everywhere, unfortunately! :
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GA Gaura Veteran ·
Thailand keeps destroying its most beautiful sites with overtourism. Contrary to what you might think, Ao Nang used to be an idyllic beach... over 30 years ago (that doesn’t make me feel any younger!). I spent Christmas there with my young teenage kids and friends who had a baby, in a hotel that had just opened, right on that gorgeous gently sloping beach—perfect for kids. Colorful fish were everywhere, swimming around our feet. There was another older-style thatched hotel. It was perfect: longtail boats took us to the surrounding islands or to bigger boats that couldn’t dock due to the lack of a pier, so they’d take us to Ko Phi Phi... I think it developed really quickly around the same time as KPP... then the tsunami hit and wiped everything out. I didn’t recognize anything when I took the boat to Ko Lanta 10 years ago. There are still some quiet beaches further south... but for how long...
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MA Marien33 Veteran ·
I’ve been reading everyone here on this travel journal, and it reassures me a little—sort of—because I didn’t dare go into too much detail on my own journal about my disappointments during this trip due to the tourist invasion in Chiang Mai. While my trip wasn’t ruined, I owe that to my optimism and determination to avoid them as much as I could.

But reading you all doesn’t exactly encourage me to try again... Where should I go to find the "real" Thailand? The one so many people convinced me to visit.
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
There are still quiet beaches further south... for how long though...

Between Hua Hin and Surat Thani, it's really peaceful too! We were the only ones on the two beaches mentioned at the start of this travel journal.
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Where will I need to go to find a Thailand "in its own juice"? The one so many people convinced me to visit.

Anywhere you don’t find excursions for sale on Viator or GetYourGuide. All the spots you won’t find in the Fram or Voyageurs du Monde catalogs... Every place where you only find about ten Google results.

And preferably by car rental, hiking, or bike...

Chumphon province is pretty untouched—maybe Isan too?

35 million travelers visited Thailand in 2024. The country’s government is aiming for 40 million this year... Chinese, Malaysians, Russians, Koreans, and Indians make up the bulk of the crowd.

Tourists were "only" 10 million in 2000, 7 million in 1995, and just over 1 million in 1975...

It’s one of the world’s top destinations.
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HE Herodotos Regular ·
one of the "flagship" destinations

I love lighthouses.. in Brittany! 😎 Okay, I'm out...
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MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
Hey friends! I absolutely loved Thailand when I traveled from north to south back in 2007. I told myself I’d never go back, to preserve the memories from that time. After reading your travel journal, I’m even more convinced. At the same time, I wonder if there are still places (and maybe times of year) that remain untouched?
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MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
one of the "flagship" destinations

I love lighthouses.. in Brittany! 😎 Okay, I'm out...

I went to Northern Brittany last summer, it wasn’t bad in terms of overtourism either ( #brehat)
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JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
When you see the world at the Louvre or at the Christmas market in Strasbourg, there’s no need to go to Thailand to face the downsides of overtourism. Let’s be clear: among the two billion Indians and Chinese, there are a few hundred million who have entered the middle or upper-middle class, and it’s unrealistic to expect they won’t visit a country so close to home.

I worry that some readers, seeing our posts, might think we’re just a bunch of old-timers stuck on the "good old days" tune. That said, it doesn’t mean we’re wrong. Thailand is firmly in its 2020s groove and definitely not stuck in the 1980s anymore. Let’s acknowledge the country’s efforts to constantly modernize. But here’s the thing: some problems fade away, only for new ones to pop up due to changing circumstances.

On top of that, with inflation surging in recent years—thanks to excessive money printing in various parts of the world—we couldn’t expect it to skip a highly tourist-dependent country like Thailand. Everything’s moving fast: in just the last few months, authorities have been alarmed to see tourists shifting toward Cambodia and Vietnam, where prices are significantly lower and services sometimes even better. Managing the goose that lays the golden eggs isn’t easy...

Overall, I largely agree with Attila’s recent posts—she really gets what she’s seen and experienced firsthand.

One last thought: COVID wasn’t all bad. Nature got a chance to regenerate, animal populations recovered, and no one had to deal with tourist-related hassles. Oh, right—we were miserable, weren’t we?
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MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
And we're not done with surprises yet:

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MA Marien33 Veteran ·
les deux milliards d'Hindous

I hope it’s just a slip-up. Hindus, who practice Hinduism, are only part of the Indian population. There are also Muslims, Sikhs, Christians, Buddhists, Jains, Parsis, etc... Even if some might wish all Indians were Hindus.

Things are moving fast: in recent months, authorities have been alarmed to see tourists increasingly turning to Cambodia and Vietnam, as these countries offer significantly lower prices for services that are sometimes better.

I’m seriously considering it...
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JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
For our generation, Indians are the ones who go 'woo woo woo' while circling wagons under John Wayne’s fire 😎
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Hey Bruno, 🙂

I guess you could go back to Thailand today but absolutely avoid what you loved yesterday.

You’d have to skip the most popular spots like Phuket, Krabi, Koh Samui, Koh Phi Phi, Pattaya, Bangkok, and Chiang Mai.

Renting a car also lets you experience a different kind of trip, and since it’s not a super common way to travel yet, it’s easier to find quiet places that are hard to reach by public transport. And most importantly, never take a group tour...

This travel journal is still half "tourist-free," and there were plenty of places where we were the only non-locals.

It was obvious that the entire "South" would be very touristy. I think 80% of travelers don’t mind because they’re used to it—either because of their age (too young to remember when tourism was just for Westerners) or because they actually like it (wanting to be alone is often seen as weird...).
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JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
This travel journal is still half "tourist-free" and there are plenty of places where we were the only non-locals.

Simply put, this travel journal is absolutely excellent.
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Let’s clarify that among the two billion Hindus and Chinese, there are a few hundred million who have joined the middle or upper-middle class

More like 3 billion...

I really think the improvement in living standards across Asia partly explains the explosion in tourist numbers worldwide.

The number of Westerners who can afford long-haul flights hasn’t increased as much. It’s pretty stable, in my opinion. It’s the short-haul destinations that are suffering from the rise in Europeans’ cost of living.

In the 1990s and 2000s, I only ever saw Westerners and locals during my travels. Today, they often make up a minority—especially the "traditional" ones (British, French, Germans).

One continent is still missing from the tourism scene: Africa. When that continent emerges from its struggles, there’ll be another surge in tourist numbers.

In short, a positive development (rising living standards) leads to a negative one (overtourism)... We can’t exactly say things were better before, though.
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Hopefully it won’t draw too many people to the car rental agencies and the somewhat remote spots mentioned...🤪
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DE Dennis2 Regular ·
I worry that some readers, seeing our posts, might think there’s a whole group of old-timers endlessly singing the "things were better back in the day" tune...

...well yeah, things *were* better back then—we were young and good-looking... but we had less money, and I’m really glad I don’t have to stay in those 10-baht guesthouses with just a mosquito net and a neon light on the ceiling anymore. Oh, but anyway, those don’t even exist anymore...

Going back—or not—to a country you loved 20 or 30 years ago, it’s obvious it won’t be the same. Of course, you’ve just got to look at the improvements too, not just the nostalgia of "it’s not what it used to be." Thailand has developed *a lot*, and personally, I think it’s still great.

I struggle more with Vietnam, which has really changed—and super fast... but everyone has their own attachments, memories, and shifts in perspective as the years go by...
MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
I totally agree with what you said—I could go back to Thailand in a heartbeat! And I have to admit, renting a car sounds really tempting to see the country "differently."
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MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
This travel journal is still about half "tourist-free," and there are plenty of places where we were the only non-locals.

Simply put, this travel journal is absolutely excellent.

We totally agree!
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MA Marien33 Veteran ·
For our generation, Indians are the ones going "woo woo woo" while circling wagons under John Wayne’s fire 😎

I’d rather not respond to that.
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MU Muriel18 Globetrotter ·
I’ve (almost*) never been to Thailand (so no risk of me saying "it was better before!" 😉) ... I thought it was too touristy! So, I visited the surrounding countries instead (Laos, Myanmar, Malaysia, Cambodia...) But then, looking for a sunny winter destination, why not Thailand after all? Especially since I did spend 3 days* on a nearly deserted island in February, in an area where the roads were really quiet and driving a rental car seemed easy. Well, after reading all your comments, I’m feeling doubtful again 🤪 All in all, driving doesn’t seem so simple anymore, especially after reading this article 😎

(those U-turns had already thrown me off a bit 😏) I’ll keep thinking about it...
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JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Mr. Bottu’s comments are very good, but it’s worth noting that his site is quite old. There have been clear improvements since then regarding turn signals and even (very slightly) respect for pedestrian crossings.

For U-turns, many Thais are very cautious and only make them when there’s no vehicle in sight. How many times have I thought I could’ve made it five times over! A slightly more dynamic driving style is possible.

The only thing to avoid most of the time, especially in cities, is sudden maneuvers. Thais aren’t used to that. Reversing, swerving, starting off, or entering a road—it’s best to do all of this slowly to avoid any issues. This gives other road users time to react.

I’ll say it again: motorbikes will overtake you from any side and cut you off without hesitation if it helps them weave through traffic. Let them go and stay zen.

Another thing: if you’re about to overtake a vehicle, including a motorbike, and the driver wants to avoid an obstacle, they’ll swerve without considering your maneuver. Always leave plenty of room or only overtake when everyone has their own clear section of the road.

It’s totally doable, and you’d be wrong not to try it. Just don’t skimp on insurance quality—go for maximum coverage. If something goes wrong, don’t sign anything before the insurance agent arrives.
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MU Muriel18 Globetrotter ·
Thanks Joel for the encouragement... I’ll keep digging 😉 As for the link you shared, it also made me smile—I figure not everything should be taken literally. I watched a U-turn video and kept thinking, "Okay, now they’re gonna do it!"... but nope! (What a weird system, honestly ... can’t imagine this on our highways or even our expressways!)
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MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
For our generation, Native Americans are the ones who go "wou wou wou" while circling wagons under John Wayne’s fire 😎

I’d rather not respond to that.

Scared for your scalp? Okay, I’m out 😕
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MU Muriel18 Globetrotter ·
I totally agree with you. Sometimes I think I would’ve loved to discover certain destinations 30 years ago, but back then I couldn’t afford it, and I feel really lucky to be able to do it now. That said, I try to avoid tourist highways as much as possible... and generally, I manage to 😉 (if only by going somewhere very early or very late).
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KA Kate Globetrotter ·
I was thinking about your disappointments while writing my message 😉 Don’t let some considerations stop you—you’ll know how to weigh things up.

That said, I try to avoid touristy highways as much as possible... and generally, I manage to 😉 (if only by going very early or very late to a place).

That’s what I meant by saying “I adapt.”
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
No matter where I am, I put up with others—those horrible tourists so different from us, true travelers. I savor the pleasure of being at the edge of the world, and that’s what stays with me from my trips...

Up to a point, though... There are places so saturated it’s better to avoid them. 🤪

As for tourists or travelers, it’s the same—I’d rather steer clear of some if I can.

The woman who drives her boyfriend crazy for hours over the perfect portrait, like I saw in the U.S.—it’s funny for five minutes, but a whole vacation like that? No thanks!

Three spots take the top spots on the podium for overcrowded places. All of them are in Thailand. And all of them are beach resorts.

I don’t really see the point of cramming onto a beach after a 12-hour flight when you can do the same thing within driving or train distance from home...

I realize I’ve actually been pretty lucky. I thought it was crowded, but in the end, it was almost nothing compared to some photos I found online. 😄

Anyway, the crowds seem huge after a trip to the Altiplano but must look tiny compared to a visit to Mont Saint-Michel on a sunny August 15th!
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Don’t worry too much about driving.

You won’t spend all your time on the four-lane highways or in big cities, and the rest is pretty chill. 🙂
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JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
You worried about your scalp? Okay, I’m out 😕

At my age, I’m lucky I’m not going bald yet. When I see those monks, it’s a race to see who can be the baldest!
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JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
I totally agree with that. It’s getting annoying, all these boomer stories about "preserved places," "too many tourists," "authentic countries," "places to avoid"... Thirty years ago, I couldn’t afford big trips. Today, I’m lucky enough to have the means to travel while some friends can only dream about it. Crying with your mouth full... 😕 Wherever I go, I put up with others—those horrible tourists who are so different from us, the *real* travelers. I savor the joy of being at the end of the world, and that’s what stays with me from my trips...

You remind me of my first adult vacation, camping with friends in Soulac-sur-Mer. Waking up sweaty and stiff in a tent that was already hot, with a sore back after sleeping on just a sleeping bag and my old, lumpy pillow. On the way to or from the beach, we’d pass a hotel, and I’d think, *One day, I’ll be able to afford that*...
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KA Kate Globetrotter ·
Some places are so saturated that it's best to avoid them. 🤪

Well, you see, it’s not an obsession for me. I deal with it. In a few months, I’ll be going to Angkor, and there’s no way I’m skipping it just because there might be “too many people.” What bothers me the most are places ruined by concrete, and I expect to find some. But those that are still preserved keep their charm, despite the tourists. I could name hundreds of them.
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
But those spared from it still have their charm, despite the tourists.

I can’t.

(Finding charm in the hustle and bustle, in the crowds—impossible to look past)

I’m heading to Dubrovnik soon. I’m expecting the worst, so I’ve only planned a short day there and won’t even stay overnight. We’ll turn back quickly if it’s too chaotic.
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HE Herodotos Regular ·
I worry that some readers, when they see our posts, might think there’s a whole bunch of old folks just going on about how "things were better back in the day."

I totally get that. All these boomer stories are getting old.

We’ll make room soon… It’ll be better after! 😛
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KA Kate Globetrotter ·
I totally agree with that. These boomer stories are getting annoying.

We’ll make room soon... It’ll be better after that! 😛

Hilarious! I’ll remember that line to use again (sadly, I’m part of the bunch—just a few more years of rambling 😉)
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MA Marien33 Veteran ·
I share your outrage.

Thanks for sharing! ...
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Older folks, the "boomers" as you call them, have just as much right to express themselves as you do.

To wrap up this nearly two-page digression, it seems to me that Joël is also a boomer (or baby boomer, the generation born between 1947 and 1965)...
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Today, just for a change, we booked a group tour to Koh Hong.

We should’ve known better than to skimp...

08:00—we’re waiting for our shuttle at the hotel reception. We’re not the only ones.

08:15—a cheerful songthaew shows up, and everyone climbs onto its padded benches.

08:45—we arrive at Noparatthara Pier, where all the excursions to the different islands depart.

At that point, I thought, like in the 2000s–2012, everyone in the shuttle was on the same tour and we’d leave right away.

But no—those days of artisanal tourism are gone. Now it’s the era of industrial, streamlined tourism!

Back in the day, a bus would pick up guests from each hotel for a specific excursion, but now there’s an optimization of routes—not by tour, but by neighborhood, all excursions combined.

The various songthaews then converge at a meeting point to drop off all their passengers.

An employee directs people to makeshift offices under the trees to check in at different counters.



At the first counter, we’re given a colored wristband—each color corresponds to a different tour.

Blues: Phi Phi by speedboat; reds: Koh Hong by longtail; purples: Phang Nga Bay luxury version...

There must be at least 15 different options, so over 500 people to tag.

At counter 2, we pay the national park entrance fees.

At counter 3, we register with the insurance...

Coffee, drinking water, some fruit, and pastries help pass the time while waiting for our group to depart.

"Blues! Follow me!"

"Mr. Méluche, Mr. Méluche from the red group, hurry up—our boat’s about to leave!"

No luck—we’ll be the last ones...

09:30—our guide counts and recounts us, then invites us to follow him to the pier.



Our longtail is spotless. It has a roof to shelter from the sun, transparent blinds for rain and waves, and life jackets that haven’t seen much use. There are also unlimited water bottles.

Our longtail is also packed to the brim—every seat sold...

After a quick rundown of the day’s schedule, we finally set off for Koh Hong, with an estimated arrival in 40 minutes.



The island’s silhouette appears on the horizon as we line up to enter the lagoon—a secluded inner bay surrounded by cliffs, accessible only through a narrow channel from the open sea.

It’s a free-for-all to get here.

Too many boats!





And no view from the longtail except from the bow.

I hope the rest of the excursion isn’t like this...

We finally drop anchor on the beach side and step out of our floating coffin.



You’d better not be agoraphobic *or* claustrophobic if you’re doing group tours...
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KA Kate Globetrotter ·
To wrap up this nearly two-page digression, it seems to me that Joël is also a boomer (or baby boomer, the generation born between 1947 and 1965)...

This two-page digression was seriously cut short with the deletion of my original post, which contained no insults or offenses toward anyone. But the cleanup was poorly done—there are still replies quoting me! Double standards?... I’m sorry your travel journal became a platform, or to be factual, a tribunal. Freedom of speech is gradually being threatened, and the bad vibes that used to hang over this section in the past are no longer just a legend.
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MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
Oh, darn, mine was deleted too! Ugh, can't we even joke around anymore? Are there any over-sensitive "report" button ticklers in this discussion?

Anyway, let's give Atilla back his travel journal since that's still what we're all here for, and let the grumps grumble 😉
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Before giving us a couple of hours on the island, the guide points out the possible walks and where to do a bit of snorkeling.

He said where the viewpoint was?

Over there!

We head for the stairs—well, yeah, if there’s no climb, it’s no fun!—and climb more and more slowly toward paradise.











Sure, it would’ve been better to splurge on a private excursion, but this stunning view quickly makes you forget all the hassles of the group hike!

The icing on the cake? There aren’t many people on the platform.

The effort put off a few, the fittest are already heading back down, and the less trained still have a few meters to go.

A big dip in the sea to cool off—sound good?

We leave our towels and backpacks in the shade and go for a swim.

A few fish swim past our masks—it’s far from an aquarium, but it’s still pretty nice.



Time’s ticking; we’ve got to catch the boat.

Next stop: the nearby island of Koh Lao Lading for a picnic on the sand and another snorkeling/swim break.
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DE Dennis2 Regular ·
True, the group tour isn’t the best option for this island, which in my humble opinion is one of the most beautiful spots in the bay.

But yes, for those planning the trip, here’s a tip: go for a private boat, arrive when it opens, and avoid high tide—the beach shrinks a lot.
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Surprisingly, the meal served was good. Just missing some tables and chairs...



The beach is really pretty, and the boats are parked elsewhere. We take the moment to try out masks and snorkels again in water that’s still just as warm and clear.





The guide now sounds the call to gather everyone and tries not to leave anyone behind.



He then tells us we’ll have a snorkeling break at sea before finally heading back to our starting point.



At 16:00, we’re back.

All that’s left is to wait for the songthaew that’ll drop us off at our hotel soon.



What to say about this "mass tourism" day?

I wouldn’t plan an entire trip like this, but for about ten hours, it’s okay...

There were no scams with the service except for the size of the group. I thought we’d be around twenty, not a good forty. That detail wasn’t mentioned when booking...

If you can afford it, still consider the private boat option and leave before 08:00 from the port!

For our last dinner by the water, we choose to go to Ra Beung Lay Seafood Restaurant, located right on the beach.

Unfortunately, several events were happening that night, and we had to wait *very* long before being served...

Avoid if you see it’s almost full, then! !
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Hi Kate and Bruno, 🙂

I wasn’t the one who cleaned up this thread.
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MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
Hi Kate and Bruno, 🙂

I wasn’t the one who started the cleanup here.

Hi Agnès, I never doubted you—I know you’re smarter than that.

That said, those are some gorgeous shots from this trip! Just out of curiosity, do you have any idea what the day cost?
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux." Marcel Proust
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Indeed, the group tour isn’t the best for this island, which in my humble opinion remains one of the most beautiful spots in the bay....

I don’t dare bring up the old days anymore, but...

The Sofitel where I stayed about a dozen years ago offered its guests a speedboat shuttle to the island.

It was barely developed back then, and I don’t think there were stairs leading to the viewpoint.

I really enjoyed lazing on that beach with a few monitor lizards for company.

A private longtail boat excursion currently costs 6,000 baht (plus the national park entrance fee).

I think the longtail is better for those who get seasick because the speedboat shakes a lot more.
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KA Kate Globetrotter ·
Same here, I just sent them a private message.
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Yeah, this pair of islands is really nice, and once you're past the long tail, the crowded feeling fades away.
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JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Once again, I notice there are so many lovely photos. It's not just for technical reasons but also because we get a glimpse of landscapes that make you want to be there. In the past, we didn’t see this as often in travel journals about Thailand.

Secondly, I’m really surprised by the reception our little thoughts from Kate and me got. They were harmless, not meant to hurt at all, and certainly not aimed at anyone personally. It was entirely possible to take them with humor and kindness. Besides, we all know some things were better before and others are better now. This reassures me about the wisdom (or maybe just the fatigue) that comes with age, at least for some of us. Nowadays, some reactions just make me think of a cow noticing that one passing train is louder than another. And you know what? It’s comfortable.
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood

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