Vietnam ou pas Vietnam?
by Envallis
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Oui, c'est cela même Monsieur le "messie" de la liberté vivant et chérissant le pays du parti unique 😏😏😏😏, trop burlesque, irrationnel et incohérent, bien plus grave qu'une erreur de français 😛
A TOUS: S'IL-VOUS-PLAIT! STOP!
Ne pourrait-on pas revenir au sujet initial du post? Vietnam ou pas Vietnam? Envallis a pris sa décision: ce sera le Vietnam. Bravo, sa décision est prise. C'était le but du post, non? 😉
A quoi bon poursuivre ces discussions sur l'enseignement, la démocratie, la dictature, etc... Tout le monde a ses idées, ses façons de penser, et comme disait un intervenant (qu'il m'excuse, je ne me souviens plus qui), le forum est fait pour aider les futurs voyageurs au VN. Les discussion politiques, économiques, philosophiques, quand elles durent trop n'ont plus leur place dans cette discussion. Ouvrez un autre post et continuez vos batailles! 🤪
Si d'autres VFistes consultent ce post avant de prendre leur décision, ils n'iront peut-être pas jusqu'au bout. Dommage pour eux. C'est quand-même le but de ce forum d'aider les voyageurs, non?
PS: Colab, ce message ne vous concerne pas directement, j'ai fait répondre à votre message comme j'aurai pu le faire à d'autres. Je pense que c'est parce que c'est le dernier que j'ai ouvert. Mais il s'adresse à tous les intervenants. Donc ne le prenez pas pour vous, SVP.🙂
Malgrés tout, je vous souhaite à tous de bonnes fêtes de fin d'année. Et une bonne préparation de voyage pour Envallis!
Ne pourrait-on pas revenir au sujet initial du post? Vietnam ou pas Vietnam? Envallis a pris sa décision: ce sera le Vietnam. Bravo, sa décision est prise. C'était le but du post, non? 😉
A quoi bon poursuivre ces discussions sur l'enseignement, la démocratie, la dictature, etc... Tout le monde a ses idées, ses façons de penser, et comme disait un intervenant (qu'il m'excuse, je ne me souviens plus qui), le forum est fait pour aider les futurs voyageurs au VN. Les discussion politiques, économiques, philosophiques, quand elles durent trop n'ont plus leur place dans cette discussion. Ouvrez un autre post et continuez vos batailles! 🤪
Si d'autres VFistes consultent ce post avant de prendre leur décision, ils n'iront peut-être pas jusqu'au bout. Dommage pour eux. C'est quand-même le but de ce forum d'aider les voyageurs, non?
PS: Colab, ce message ne vous concerne pas directement, j'ai fait répondre à votre message comme j'aurai pu le faire à d'autres. Je pense que c'est parce que c'est le dernier que j'ai ouvert. Mais il s'adresse à tous les intervenants. Donc ne le prenez pas pour vous, SVP.🙂
Malgrés tout, je vous souhaite à tous de bonnes fêtes de fin d'année. Et une bonne préparation de voyage pour Envallis!
Ne pourrait-on pas revenir au sujet initial du post? Vietnam ou pas Vietnam? Envallis a pris sa décision: ce sera le Vietnam. Bravo, sa décision est prise. C'était le but du post, non? 😉
😉 Vi c'est décidé pour le Vietnam, mais AVEC le Cambodge 😉
Malgrés tout, je vous souhaite à tous de bonnes fêtes de fin d'année. Et une bonne préparation de voyage pour Envallis!
Merci, bonne fête également
Concernant la préparation, j'ai commencé à bâtir une sorte d'ébauche d'itinéraire...
Ca donnerait ca : J1 départ J2 arrivée à Hanoi J3 Hanoi J4 Hanoi-Hoa Lu J5 Hanoi-Halong J6 Halong-Hanoi J7 Hanoi+train vers Sapa (ou équivalent) J8 Sapa (ou équivalent) J9 Sapa (ou équivalent) + train vers Hanoi J10 Hanoi-Siem Reap J11 J12 J13 Siem Reap J14 Siem Reap-Battambang J15 Battambang J16 Battambang-Siem Reap J17 Siem Reap-plage J18 à J20 Plage J21 retour
Attention je précise c'est très préliminaire, mais je voudrais néanmoins savoir si ca tient la route...😉
😉 Vi c'est décidé pour le Vietnam, mais AVEC le Cambodge 😉
Malgrés tout, je vous souhaite à tous de bonnes fêtes de fin d'année. Et une bonne préparation de voyage pour Envallis!
Merci, bonne fête également
Concernant la préparation, j'ai commencé à bâtir une sorte d'ébauche d'itinéraire...
Ca donnerait ca : J1 départ J2 arrivée à Hanoi J3 Hanoi J4 Hanoi-Hoa Lu J5 Hanoi-Halong J6 Halong-Hanoi J7 Hanoi+train vers Sapa (ou équivalent) J8 Sapa (ou équivalent) J9 Sapa (ou équivalent) + train vers Hanoi J10 Hanoi-Siem Reap J11 J12 J13 Siem Reap J14 Siem Reap-Battambang J15 Battambang J16 Battambang-Siem Reap J17 Siem Reap-plage J18 à J20 Plage J21 retour
Attention je précise c'est très préliminaire, mais je voudrais néanmoins savoir si ca tient la route...😉
Il n'y a pas de problème sans solution... et si il n'y a pas de solution, il n'y a pas de problème !
MERCI MAHISKA D'AVOIR DIT : S T O P.
Je voulais le faire également hier mais mon emploi du temps ne me l'a pas permis.
Si quelques Vfistes désirent faire de la politique, qu'ils ouvrent une nouvelle discussion ailleurs ou fassent cela en MP mais pas sur un forum public dédié aux questions et conseils sur un éventuel voyage au Vietnam. Arrêtez toutes vos disputes, cela devient ridicule. Je pense que nous sommes plusieurs à vouloir que cela s'arrête. Donc, soyez intelligents et arrêtez!!!! Merci.😠😠😠
Je voulais le faire également hier mais mon emploi du temps ne me l'a pas permis.
Si quelques Vfistes désirent faire de la politique, qu'ils ouvrent une nouvelle discussion ailleurs ou fassent cela en MP mais pas sur un forum public dédié aux questions et conseils sur un éventuel voyage au Vietnam. Arrêtez toutes vos disputes, cela devient ridicule. Je pense que nous sommes plusieurs à vouloir que cela s'arrête. Donc, soyez intelligents et arrêtez!!!! Merci.😠😠😠
Au SEAgames de 2009, le ViêtNam est en tête en classement de médailles d'or avec 74 médailles, suivi de la Thailande deuxième avec seulement 64 médailles, alors qu'en 2007, la Thailande classée première avait 3 fois plus de médailles d'or que le ViêtNam🙂
Tout à l'heure, résultat de la finale de FootBall entre le ViêtNam et la Malaisie pour connaitre le champion de l'Asie du Sud Est 2009.
Je vois pas trop le rapport avec l'accueil des touristes qui pour beaucoup ont été déçu par le Vietnam.. moi la première. 🤪🏴☠️
C'est pas avec un Seagames ou une coupe de football ASE.. loool
Je vois pas trop le rapport avec l'accueil des touristes qui pour beaucoup ont été déçu par le Vietnam.. moi la première. 🤪🏴☠️
C'est pas avec un Seagames ou une coupe de football ASE.. loool
Artisanat Cambodge
Salut madamee PARY,
vous etes décue du VN , OK , on n'a aucun droit de constester ce fait !ni contredire ceux qui trouvent que leur voyage est une réussite !Cependant je supplie ces personnes de nous expliquer , dans quels domaines , quels sujets elles sont décues ou contentes.
Cela aidera bcp d autres candidats aux voyages aux vn ou autres pays , d 'y aller ou non et d éviter des déboires en raison de la non comprehension des habitudes locales , des coutumes , des croyances ETC .....ou tout simplement que le VN ne correspond pas à leur gout, à leur attente.
Bien entendu , il existe des guides , mais les expériences personnelles sont des complémentaires plus que utiles .
SI les infos se recoupent , il y aura plus d intérets à les retenir
Par contre "pour bcp " dans votre phrase me parait de trop , tout le monde constate que des déçus ou contents , ils en existe bcp !on va pas faire une étude comparative des oui et des non
Pour le Seagame , c est un rassemblement sportif pacifique qui a son interet dans l économie d 1 pays via l' affluence des touristes ( à savoir des touristes asiatiques essentiellement et il en existe, peut etre en nombre bcp plus restreint , des occidentaux(Le football est une religion dans le sud est asie , si je ne me trompe pas)Le tourisme compte bcp dans léconomie de tous les pays .Vous connaissez surement l impact du tourisme en France (exple coupe du monde 98) pour les grandes competitions foot, rugby, athletime, jo, les autorités de bcp de pays du monde ocidentales en particulier , se battent pour les accueillir , c est une occasion qui génère infrastructures , un coup de pouce aux économies locales impensables .Je suis content pour l'Af du sud qui a obtenu l organisationde la prochaine compétition , alors que je suis pas du tout foot!les retombées touristiques seront sans précédente pour ce pays Bref je n ai pas l intention de vous les énumérer ces éléments , mais puique vous posiez cette question.C est une participation modeste de ma part au vf et cela sans polémique et reste dans le cadre d un forum voyage. cordialement VZ
Pour le Seagame , c est un rassemblement sportif pacifique qui a son interet dans l économie d 1 pays via l' affluence des touristes ( à savoir des touristes asiatiques essentiellement et il en existe, peut etre en nombre bcp plus restreint , des occidentaux(Le football est une religion dans le sud est asie , si je ne me trompe pas)Le tourisme compte bcp dans léconomie de tous les pays .Vous connaissez surement l impact du tourisme en France (exple coupe du monde 98) pour les grandes competitions foot, rugby, athletime, jo, les autorités de bcp de pays du monde ocidentales en particulier , se battent pour les accueillir , c est une occasion qui génère infrastructures , un coup de pouce aux économies locales impensables .Je suis content pour l'Af du sud qui a obtenu l organisationde la prochaine compétition , alors que je suis pas du tout foot!les retombées touristiques seront sans précédente pour ce pays Bref je n ai pas l intention de vous les énumérer ces éléments , mais puique vous posiez cette question.C est une participation modeste de ma part au vf et cela sans polémique et reste dans le cadre d un forum voyage. cordialement VZ
C'est pas avec un Seagames ou une coupe de football ASE.. loool
Justement, pourquoi ne pas en parler ? Beaucoup de voyageurs veulent "connaitre la culture", "avoir des contacts avec la population", et patati et patata, MAIS, quand on leur parle d'autre chose que des rizieres en plateaux et des chapeaux coniques, ca ne les interesse plus...
Comme l'a dit Voyageurzen, en ASE, le football, notamment, mais aussi beaucoup d'autres sports, fait partie INTEGRANTE de la CULTURE vietnamienne. il fallait etre sur place pour se rendre compte que les soirs de match, la moitie de la population etait rassemblee dans les cafes face a la tele. Certains cafes achetent meme un ecran de plus pour satisfaire tout le monde. Apres, quand il y a victoire, c'est le defile avec klaxons et drapeaux des motobikes dans les centre-villes, ca dure deux bonnes heures et le peuple se rejouit a SA facon.
Dans un autre genre, l'an dernier a eu lieu a Nha Trang le concours Miss Univers. Grace a (ou a cause, ou pour) celui-ci, la route qui longe la cote a ete elargie, munie de l'eclairage public et asphaltee. Chose qui n'aurait peut etre pas eu lieu avant plusieurs annees sans ce concours (que beaucoup, dont moi, critiquent). Resultat, cette route permet le transport des touristes et des locaux de maniere beaucoup plus securisee (les camions de marchandises ne peuvent l'emprunter), donne l'acces rapide a l'aeroport et aux petits villages de pecheurs a la ronde, etc. etc. D'un point de vue culturel et "contact population", etre sur place pendant les quinze jours qui ont precede le concours etait une vraie mine d'or. Rassemblements de population a la limite de l'explosion du site (bien entendu, ca a derange certains touristes qui trouvaient tout ce brouhaha desagreable), defiles de chars entierement fabriques artinanalement par les locaux, liesse populaire, ebahissement des petits et des grands lors du feu d'artifice, etc... CA AUSSI, c'est decouvrir la CULTURE et AVOIR UN CONTACT AVEC LA POPULATION. Malheureusement, j'ai entendu plus de critiques que de rejouissance de la part de ces memes touristes "contact population et patati et patata" parce que la ville etait engorgee et qu'il y avait du bruit dans les rues jusqu'a pas d'heure... "Fichus Vietnamiens, qu'est-ce qu'ils ont besoin de s'amuser ? Savent meme pas respecter les touristes !!!" 🏴☠️ (je signale que c'est du 3e degre 😉😉😉😉)
Justement, pourquoi ne pas en parler ? Beaucoup de voyageurs veulent "connaitre la culture", "avoir des contacts avec la population", et patati et patata, MAIS, quand on leur parle d'autre chose que des rizieres en plateaux et des chapeaux coniques, ca ne les interesse plus...
Comme l'a dit Voyageurzen, en ASE, le football, notamment, mais aussi beaucoup d'autres sports, fait partie INTEGRANTE de la CULTURE vietnamienne. il fallait etre sur place pour se rendre compte que les soirs de match, la moitie de la population etait rassemblee dans les cafes face a la tele. Certains cafes achetent meme un ecran de plus pour satisfaire tout le monde. Apres, quand il y a victoire, c'est le defile avec klaxons et drapeaux des motobikes dans les centre-villes, ca dure deux bonnes heures et le peuple se rejouit a SA facon.
Dans un autre genre, l'an dernier a eu lieu a Nha Trang le concours Miss Univers. Grace a (ou a cause, ou pour) celui-ci, la route qui longe la cote a ete elargie, munie de l'eclairage public et asphaltee. Chose qui n'aurait peut etre pas eu lieu avant plusieurs annees sans ce concours (que beaucoup, dont moi, critiquent). Resultat, cette route permet le transport des touristes et des locaux de maniere beaucoup plus securisee (les camions de marchandises ne peuvent l'emprunter), donne l'acces rapide a l'aeroport et aux petits villages de pecheurs a la ronde, etc. etc. D'un point de vue culturel et "contact population", etre sur place pendant les quinze jours qui ont precede le concours etait une vraie mine d'or. Rassemblements de population a la limite de l'explosion du site (bien entendu, ca a derange certains touristes qui trouvaient tout ce brouhaha desagreable), defiles de chars entierement fabriques artinanalement par les locaux, liesse populaire, ebahissement des petits et des grands lors du feu d'artifice, etc... CA AUSSI, c'est decouvrir la CULTURE et AVOIR UN CONTACT AVEC LA POPULATION. Malheureusement, j'ai entendu plus de critiques que de rejouissance de la part de ces memes touristes "contact population et patati et patata" parce que la ville etait engorgee et qu'il y avait du bruit dans les rues jusqu'a pas d'heure... "Fichus Vietnamiens, qu'est-ce qu'ils ont besoin de s'amuser ? Savent meme pas respecter les touristes !!!" 🏴☠️ (je signale que c'est du 3e degre 😉😉😉😉)
Bonjour TLM,
Et bien moi, j’aime le Vietnam.
Une des choses qui m’a plu, c’est allez pêcher dans un Cau Ca à Hanoï.
Pierre.
Et bien moi, j’aime le Vietnam.
Une des choses qui m’a plu, c’est allez pêcher dans un Cau Ca à Hanoï.
Pierre.
Association EEFF
https://picasaweb.google.com/Pierrehuyen
Avant le Vietnam j'irai en Birmanie... 😇
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
salut,
vous precher dans le vide , madame
le vf ressemble parfois ou souvent à l ' émission "stop ou encore"
parfois çà ressemble à un bateau sans gouvernail
les discussions vont dans tous les sens , toutes les directions sauf la direction initiale!!
Souvent c est énervant , parfois c est amusant
mais si çà reste coutois et respectueux .Pourquoi pas?😏😏😏
Envallis doit actuellement tout à fait perdu, je ne suis pas sur s il ou elle se suovient de quoi s'agit sa question??!!!
il dois se dire çà ne doit etre pas " vN ou Pas VN "mais COTOUNOU ou OSLO!!
ou encore " lima ou pas lima " vues que nos réponses sont tellement précises
VZ
de plus, je ne suis pas suisse, mais voir donner une leçon d'une personne se disant partisane de liberté, vivant au VN de surcroît et défendant celle-ci dans ce pays à parti unique, et critiquer ouvertement un vote démocratique, ça tient de la contradiction la plus extraordinaire qu'il m'a été possible de lire.
Sacré Larsay ! Il n'est pas à une contradiction près jusqu'à ce qu'il se lasse du pays comme il l'est désormais de la Thailande....
Sacré Larsay ! Il n'est pas à une contradiction près jusqu'à ce qu'il se lasse du pays comme il l'est désormais de la Thailande....
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
Rate, mon petit pere ! Je n'ai JAMAIS aime la Thailande, ou je ne suis reste que pour faire des gros sous - c'est la seule fois ou je suis reste ds un pays pour ca- DONC, je n'ai pas pu "m'en lasser", n'est-ce-pas ?
En plus, le Ampan, il a tout faux aussi, et il ne sait pas lire: je n'ai jamais ecrrit que le Vietnam etait un paradis politique, j'ai ecrit que, a cote d'un tas de pays ou j'ai vecu, le communisme a la Viet, c'est du gateau. Il y a quand meme une sacree difference, que seule ceux qui ne savent pas -ou ne veulent pas- lire ignorent 😕
FIN DE DISCUSSION SUR LE SUJET !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
En plus, le Ampan, il a tout faux aussi, et il ne sait pas lire: je n'ai jamais ecrrit que le Vietnam etait un paradis politique, j'ai ecrit que, a cote d'un tas de pays ou j'ai vecu, le communisme a la Viet, c'est du gateau. Il y a quand meme une sacree difference, que seule ceux qui ne savent pas -ou ne veulent pas- lire ignorent 😕
FIN DE DISCUSSION SUR LE SUJET !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
le Vietnam etait un paradis politique, j'ai ecrit que, a cote d'un tas de pays ou j'ai vecu, le communisme a la Viet, c'est du gateau
en comparaison avec d'autres, on peut toujours prétendre être mieux, il n'empêche qu'au VN c'est pas toujours Nöel question droit de l'homme et il restera que (ou essayer en tout cas) de se faire passer pour l'ange de la liberté au VN relève de l'acrobatie de haute voltige 😏😏😏
FIN DU SUJET.
en comparaison avec d'autres, on peut toujours prétendre être mieux, il n'empêche qu'au VN c'est pas toujours Nöel question droit de l'homme et il restera que (ou essayer en tout cas) de se faire passer pour l'ange de la liberté au VN relève de l'acrobatie de haute voltige 😏😏😏
FIN DU SUJET.
Fin du sujet apres avoir ecrit quelque chose que j'ai oublie: j'ai vecu 35 ans aux Etats Unis, ou j'ai eu sans arret des problemes avec des flics mal eleves et fascistes au dernier degre -notemment a New York (c'est d'ailleurs une des raisons pour laquelle j'en suis parti); la liberte aux USA est tres bien surveillee par des centaines de milliers de flics municipaux, State Stroopers, Rangers....et le FBI qui a des indics dans ts les coins et recoins du pays. Ici, aucun pb en 5 ans de ballades et 1 an de vie a Hanoi, et je ne vois pas que les flics locaux emm. beaucoup les viets, qui, du moins en ce qui concerne le business, ont bien l'air de faire ce que bon leur semble. A la limite, je me sens bien plus libre de faire ce que je veux ici (y compris critiquer Ho Chi Minh & Co si j'en ai envie -et il y a beaucoup a dire au sujet du Vietminh !) que la-bas.
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
Bonjour,
Votre CAU CA m intéresse , pouvez vous me donner des précisions sur ces lieux ?
peut etre d autres personnes sont intéressées aussi
Merci
VZ
Bonjour Voyagezen,
Un Cau Ca est un lieu où les Vietnamiens se retrouvent en famille ou en amoureux le week-end. On y pêche et mange de la cuisine traditionnelle. Le Cau Ca des photos se trouve à coté de l’ancien terrain d’aviation de Gia Lam, un superbe environnement naturel.
Pierre.
Bonjour Voyagezen,
Un Cau Ca est un lieu où les Vietnamiens se retrouvent en famille ou en amoureux le week-end. On y pêche et mange de la cuisine traditionnelle. Le Cau Ca des photos se trouve à coté de l’ancien terrain d’aviation de Gia Lam, un superbe environnement naturel.
Pierre.
Association EEFF
https://picasaweb.google.com/Pierrehuyen
Pas tout a fait "l'ancien" aeroport de Gia Lam, il est toujours bien vivant, tout pres du centre de Hanoi, et il est "en voie de developpement" pour en faire l'aeroport des lignes interieures, ce qui sera bien pratique !
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
Je ne parle pas de cours supplementaires. Je confirme que si les parents n ont pas donne une petite enveloppe, le gamin se verra oublie du prof. Ma copine vietnamienne, divorcee, un enfant ma fait de son experience qui est un cas largement repandu.
La petite enveloppe est partout. Faites une demande dans n importe quelles administrations. Le temps d aboutissement de votre demande dependra ... de l enveloppe.
Tout est question d argent.
Un ami voulait un jour organiser un tournoi de foot en salle, des jours de palabres, des enveloppes et encore des enveloppes mais jamais assez grosses. On lui a repondu : " No money, no football".
CQFD
La petite enveloppe est partout. Faites une demande dans n importe quelles administrations. Le temps d aboutissement de votre demande dependra ... de l enveloppe.
Tout est question d argent.
Un ami voulait un jour organiser un tournoi de foot en salle, des jours de palabres, des enveloppes et encore des enveloppes mais jamais assez grosses. On lui a repondu : " No money, no football".
CQFD
Fin du sujet apres avoir ecrit quelque chose que j'ai oublie: j'ai vecu 35 ans aux Etats Unis, ou j'ai eu sans arret des problemes avec des flics mal eleves et fascistes au dernier degre -notemment a New York (c'est d'ailleurs une des raisons pour laquelle j'en suis parti); la liberte aux USA est tres bien surveillee par des centaines de milliers de flics municipaux, State Stroopers, Rangers....et le FBI qui a des indics dans ts les coins et recoins du pays. Ici, aucun pb en 5 ans de ballades et 1 an de vie a Hanoi, et je ne vois pas que les flics locaux emm. beaucoup les viets, qui, du moins en ce qui concerne le business, ont bien l'air de faire ce que bon leur semble. A la limite, je me sens bien plus libre de faire ce que je veux ici (y compris critiquer Ho Chi Minh & Co si j'en ai envie -et il y a beaucoup a dire au sujet du Vietminh !) que la-bas.
Eh bien pourtant beaucoup voient l'inverse de ce que vous décrivez. A croire qu'ils ne vivent pas dans le même pays que vous. Personnellement je ne peux que vous conseiller d'ouvrir un peu plus grand vos yeux et vos oreilles, de vous informer en lisant la presse locale et d'ailleurs. Mais bon peut-être que tout cela ne vous intéresse pas, et que, ma foi, tant que les gens peuvent faire leur business "librement" tout cela importe peu. Ce qui serait étonnant de votre part, vu les messages que vous postez ici concernant la Birmanie. Tant que j'y suis, je vous donne un exemple de vietnamien quelque peu "emmerdé" par les flics locaux : Nguyen Tien Trung Ce n'est qu'un exemple parmi d'autres mais comme il est francophone et que vous semblez apprécier les francophones 😉, peut-être que son cas vous intéressera.
Eh bien pourtant beaucoup voient l'inverse de ce que vous décrivez. A croire qu'ils ne vivent pas dans le même pays que vous. Personnellement je ne peux que vous conseiller d'ouvrir un peu plus grand vos yeux et vos oreilles, de vous informer en lisant la presse locale et d'ailleurs. Mais bon peut-être que tout cela ne vous intéresse pas, et que, ma foi, tant que les gens peuvent faire leur business "librement" tout cela importe peu. Ce qui serait étonnant de votre part, vu les messages que vous postez ici concernant la Birmanie. Tant que j'y suis, je vous donne un exemple de vietnamien quelque peu "emmerdé" par les flics locaux : Nguyen Tien Trung Ce n'est qu'un exemple parmi d'autres mais comme il est francophone et que vous semblez apprécier les francophones 😉, peut-être que son cas vous intéressera.
J'espere que vs n'allez pas comparer le Vietnam et la Birmanie ! Encore une fois, je n'ai pas ecrit que tout est parfait ici, j'ai ecrit que je me semble plus libre qu'aux USA. Qu'y ait des abus, j'en suis parfaitement conscient, mais je vous signale tout de meme que, meme en France, soi-disant pays de la Liberte (bien que les RG soient tres curieux de tout- pendant la Guerre d'Algerie, arrestations suivies de tortures pleuvaient, et pas seulement avec des algeriens !). Ici, il semble y avoir un concensus selon lequel les Viets font ce qu'ils veulent a condition de ne pas critiquer ouvertement le gouvernement, qui n'est d'ailleurs pas le pire au monde, loin de la ! J'accepte ce concensus plus que le regime du clown de Pyong Yang, meme du regime chinois, qui fait pareil, et meme du Gouvernement americain qui surveille etroitement ses ouailles, quadrille la population de la naissance a la mort, execute je ne sais combien d'innocents par an (en plus des coupables) et se veut ensuite le champion de la liberte. Au moins, le Gvt vietnamien ne se clame pas ainsi, c'est moins hypocrite !
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
Gouvernement americain qui surveille etroitement ses ouailles, quadrille la population de la naissance a la mort
Chacun nuit que vous passez au Vietnam, la police sait exactement où.
400 moines demandent en ce moment l'asile en France.
Y a des charettes d'exemples.
Arrêtez de parler d'un pays dont vous ne connaissez que des miettes !!!!
Chacun nuit que vous passez au Vietnam, la police sait exactement où.
400 moines demandent en ce moment l'asile en France.
Y a des charettes d'exemples.
Arrêtez de parler d'un pays dont vous ne connaissez que des miettes !!!!
J'espere que vs n'allez pas comparer le Vietnam et la Birmanie ! Encore une fois, je n'ai pas ecrit que tout est parfait ici, j'ai ecrit que je me semble plus libre qu'aux USA. Qu'y ait des abus, j'en suis parfaitement conscient, mais je vous signale tout de meme que, meme en France, soi-disant pays de la Liberte (bien que les RG soient tres curieux de tout- pendant la Guerre d'Algerie, arrestations suivies de tortures pleuvaient, et pas seulement avec des algeriens !). Ici, il semble y avoir un concensus selon lequel les Viets font ce qu'ils veulent a condition de ne pas critiquer ouvertement le gouvernement, qui n'est d'ailleurs pas le pire au monde, loin de la ! J'accepte ce concensus plus que le regime du clown de Pyong Yang, meme du regime chinois, qui fait pareil, et meme du Gouvernement americain qui surveille etroitement ses ouailles, quadrille la population de la naissance a la mort, execute je ne sais combien d'innocents par an (en plus des coupables) et se veut ensuite le champion de la liberte. Au moins, le Gvt vietnamien ne se clame pas ainsi, c'est moins hypocrite !
Comparer le Vietnam et la Birmanie, ben pourquoi pas ? Vous comparez bien les Etats-Unis avec le Vietnam, la Chine et même la Corée du Nord. Etant donné qu'il se passe la même chose en Chine et au Vietnam, j'ai du mal à comprendre pourquoi certains "expats" se montrent très indulgents lorsqu'il s'agit du second mais ne se gênent pas pour dégueuler sur la Chine. Au moins les ceux qui ne disent rien du tout font preuve de cohérence. Quant à dire que le Vietnam ne se prétend pas pays de liberté, je vous renvoie à sa devise nationale : "Indépendance- LIBERTE - Bonheur".
Comparer le Vietnam et la Birmanie, ben pourquoi pas ? Vous comparez bien les Etats-Unis avec le Vietnam, la Chine et même la Corée du Nord. Etant donné qu'il se passe la même chose en Chine et au Vietnam, j'ai du mal à comprendre pourquoi certains "expats" se montrent très indulgents lorsqu'il s'agit du second mais ne se gênent pas pour dégueuler sur la Chine. Au moins les ceux qui ne disent rien du tout font preuve de cohérence. Quant à dire que le Vietnam ne se prétend pas pays de liberté, je vous renvoie à sa devise nationale : "Indépendance- LIBERTE - Bonheur".
Ce n'est pas le mieux, mais on peut peut être trouver pire!😉
Y nghia cua tu ''Viet" la... RAC!
L'ennui dans ce monde , c'est que les idiots sont surs d'eux et les gens sensés plein de doutes.Tout esprit profond avance masqué .
Je ne parle pas de cours supplementaires. Je confirme que si les parents n ont pas donne une petite enveloppe, le gamin se verra oublie du prof. Ma copine vietnamienne, divorcee, un enfant ma fait de son experience qui est un cas largement repandu.
oui tu as raison.. si tu ne participes pas au cours supplementaires imposes par la prof, cette prof ne s'occupera pas de toi pendant les cours a l'ecole.. et souvent elle donne des tuyaux pour les examens pendant ses cours supplementaires (mais pas pendant ses cours a l'ecole)
oui tu as raison.. si tu ne participes pas au cours supplementaires imposes par la prof, cette prof ne s'occupera pas de toi pendant les cours a l'ecole.. et souvent elle donne des tuyaux pour les examens pendant ses cours supplementaires (mais pas pendant ses cours a l'ecole)
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Larsay, Bobia, Yvy ont tous raison (a leur maniere)..
les expropriations abusives sont frequentes au VN..(mes tantes en ont fait les frais)..
mais le VN reste aussi un pays sur et stable
je pourrais en raconter...mais une vie ne suffirait pas...
amicalement
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J ai trouvé une réponse
Restez chez vous affalés au fond de votre fauteuil, ouvrez votre TV , les chaines de voyages ne manquent pas et les images sont bien triées . point d'arnaques , point de locaux qui vous enquiquinent , pas plus de moustiques , palu et d autres parasites .
VZ
Restez chez vous affalés au fond de votre fauteuil, ouvrez votre TV , les chaines de voyages ne manquent pas et les images sont bien triées . point d'arnaques , point de locaux qui vous enquiquinent , pas plus de moustiques , palu et d autres parasites
Bonjour toi 😉😉😉
Tu as raison entièrement raison, d'ailleurs, depuis que je ne peux plus voyager, je regarde la série "Alerte à Hawaïï" et je me dis que je vais aller là-bas : toutes les filles et les gars sont beaux comme des dieux, il fait un temps de rêve, tout le monde est très aisé, il n'y a pas de problèmes politiques, pas de saletés sur les plages, il y a des bus, des avions, des bateaux, etc. pour se déplacer partout; il n'y a ni mendiants, ni voyous, ni meurtriers... bref, le paradis sur terre. Merci télé !
Amitiés, Pat
Bonjour toi 😉😉😉
Tu as raison entièrement raison, d'ailleurs, depuis que je ne peux plus voyager, je regarde la série "Alerte à Hawaïï" et je me dis que je vais aller là-bas : toutes les filles et les gars sont beaux comme des dieux, il fait un temps de rêve, tout le monde est très aisé, il n'y a pas de problèmes politiques, pas de saletés sur les plages, il y a des bus, des avions, des bateaux, etc. pour se déplacer partout; il n'y a ni mendiants, ni voyous, ni meurtriers... bref, le paradis sur terre. Merci télé !
Amitiés, Pat
Ce n'est pas le mieux, mais on peut peut être trouver pire!
Ça fait bizarre de voir ressuscités certains posts ! (8 Déc. 09)..... Tu veux relancer le débat ? 😕
Ça fait bizarre de voir ressuscités certains posts ! (8 Déc. 09)..... Tu veux relancer le débat ? 😕
Salut,
Dommage que tu ne peux plus voyager , j 'espère que ce n 'est pas grave la cause .
Je dois rectifier donc mon message :
voyagez , voyagez et encore voyagez
tant que la santé vous le permet .
N attendez pas le jour ou pour une raison ou une autre vous ne pouvez plus le faire .
Le palu , les moustiques , la dengue , les dingues , les arnaques , les emmerdeurs locaux ou autres étrangers , le décalage d'horaires, la chaleur , tellement de sujets qui peuvent vous contrarier mais à coté des découvertes (bonnes ou mauvaises ) du dépaysements , des rencontres heureuses ou non , tous ces éléments précités ne sont que des épiphénomènes
pour ma chère Ottlnpac , tu parles de cette contrée sans risques et en meme temps intitulée "ALERTE à Malibu" : Alerte??? çà ne doit pas etre un paradis car tout est artifices : femmes à seins gonflés au silicone qui risquent d'exploser à tout moment , des gars bien musclés beaux comma Apollon pas un grain de beauté ni de lésions mycosiques visibles et tous maquillés et bien maquillés comme des caméléons J ai bien peur que là aussi c 'est un attrappe nigauds ma chère et çà doit etre hors de prix , si c 'est celà je reste cloué à mon sofa pour voir la baie d HALONG à 23°C par exple ou les montagnes du shishuan à 21 ° et me plonger dans un sommeil profond aussi profond qu une plongée dans les récifs de polynésie en compagnie des sirènes non gonflées au silicone .
Mes Amitiés
VZ
pour voir la baie d HALONG à 23°C par exple en compagnie des sirènes non gonflées au silicone .
bonjour VZ et bienvenue aux revenants.. tu as vu des sirenes dans a baie d'HaLong? j'en veux une
bonjour VZ et bienvenue aux revenants.. tu as vu des sirenes dans a baie d'HaLong? j'en veux une
si vous n'aimez pas mes informations, ne les lisez pas, lisez autre chose, mais respectez les car elles serviront a d'autres
Bonjour,
et bien sur que j' en ai vues et entendues et plus d une . ceci à chaque fois qu'on approche de trop près d un gros bateau.
Si non comment va la vie a QUANG NGAI ? , ici on attend toujours l 'été , çà viendra peut etre en septembre . En attendant , il y a des documentaires à voir tout en échappant au 34° de mon cher pays .Voir par exple ANKOR à 24° dans son fauteuil c 'est plus agréable .Cependant on n 'a pas d 'autres plaisirs si l 'on est sur place .
Amicalement
VZ
J ai bien peur que là aussi c 'est un attrappe nigauds ma chère et çà doit etre hors de prix
Bonjour VZ,
Meuuuhhh non, c'est du vrai pur et dur 😄😄😄😄😄😛 Quand je disais "Merci télé", c'est en rapport avec une image que j'ai reçue qui disait "tous les soirs, je me lave le cerveau avec LA TELE". Le pis de tout, c'est qu'en allant faire un tour sur le forum "Hawaii", j'ai lu des posts de jeunes qui y croient ferme, les pauvres.
Pour ce qui est de mon impossibilité de voyager, oui, c'est grave, même très grave, mais ce n'est pas moi qui suis mal, c'est mon fils. Enfin, je ne vais pas m'étendre sur le sujet sur le forum public.
Je te rassure, tu n'es pas le seul à attendre l'été, en Belgique, on attend encore le printemps 😉 Amities,
Pat
Bonjour VZ,
Meuuuhhh non, c'est du vrai pur et dur 😄😄😄😄😄😛 Quand je disais "Merci télé", c'est en rapport avec une image que j'ai reçue qui disait "tous les soirs, je me lave le cerveau avec LA TELE". Le pis de tout, c'est qu'en allant faire un tour sur le forum "Hawaii", j'ai lu des posts de jeunes qui y croient ferme, les pauvres.
Pour ce qui est de mon impossibilité de voyager, oui, c'est grave, même très grave, mais ce n'est pas moi qui suis mal, c'est mon fils. Enfin, je ne vais pas m'étendre sur le sujet sur le forum public.
Je te rassure, tu n'es pas le seul à attendre l'été, en Belgique, on attend encore le printemps 😉 Amities,
Pat
Bonjour,
Tout ce que je te souhaite c 'est que les évènements s arrangent pour retrouver la joie des voyages.
en ce qui concerne les jeunes dont tu parles , c 'est normal d' etre perméables à tout quand on est jeune , c 'est charmant .
la sagesse viendra après , si , jeunes on est déjà sages , on ne feara rien d excitant . non ?
Amicalement
PS :Pour les autres veuillez nous excuser des réflexions toutes personnelles .
VZ
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Bonjour,
De Malacca pour rejoindre Jerantut, est-ce préférable de retourner sur KL et d'y prendre un bus ou de prendre un bus pour Tampin et ensuite un train? Des retours sur le "train de la Jungle"? (durée, prix, confort...). Merci
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Bonjour à tous,
Nous partons fin septembre pour Flores, puis Bali,
Nous avons déjà visité les deux mais souhaitons, une fois à Labuan Bajo, partir en bateaux vers les iles Komodo, voir un peu les fameux varans,
Je ne souhaite pas dormir sur le bateau mais faire plutot une visite à la journée,
Quelqu'un aurait il un prestataire sérieux et sympa à nous conseiller,
Merci d'avance et bel été à tous
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.




