Thaïlande... ou Philippines?
by Ba0ng
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Ahnon les shakes pas meilleurs ici !
bon moi il y a un truc qui a tendance a mon gonfler un peu aux Phil ce sont les petites arnaques de tous les jours... en fait je crois qu en la matiere la thailande fait plutot office d exception (et Bali/Lombok) mais aux Philp c est qd meme quotidien qu en tant que touriste je me fasse arnaquer de quelques pesos et ca me tape sur les nerfs... : les taxi, le port de Batangas (pour les bouteilles d eau ou les flics qui te mentent sur leur bateau ou le prix du bateau), les entrees des parcs (meme si c est reverse), ma maid (qui finalement me produisait de fausses factures), j en passe.
C est penible d avoir a verifier sans cesse les prix, de se sentir flouee pcq ca nuit a un contact detendu avec les gens.
bon je parle de qq cas mais je n ai de memoire d homme jamais eu ca en thailande en 4 ans.
bref en tout cas la ou je suis a mindoro, ma fille joue avec les enfants philippins et nous on se raconte nos vies et ca, de memoire d homme je ne l ai jamais fait en thailande :) !
s et ca, de memoire d homme je ne l ai jamais fait en thailande :)
Normal, il faut parler le thaï
Normal, il faut parler le thaï
jamais eu aucun problem avec les maids non plus
Je reviens sur ton commentaire au niveau des tarifs.
Pour avoir fait la thai et les philips, j'ai trouvé la thai beaucoup plu stressant au niveau du tarif...
Les taxis qui veulent pas mettre leur meter, qui te prennent la tête quand tu veux pas monter dans leur taxi, impossible de négocier avec certains commercants... Je me suis même vu pratiquement arriver aux mains avec un thai pour te dire !
Aux philips, aucun problème la dessus !
Dans les 2 pays, j'étais avec une amie locale, ça joue peut être aussi ! Pour info, j'étais malade pendant une journée en thai, à ne plus pouvoir bouger et heureusement que mon ami thai m'a accompagné à l'hopital car il m'aurait fait appliquer le tarif foreign, c'est même mon amie qui me l'a dit pour te dire...
J'ai passé en tout cas un moment beaucoup plus cool aux philips en tout cas
Les taxis qui veulent pas mettre leur meter, qui te prennent la tête quand tu veux pas monter dans leur taxi, impossible de négocier avec certains commercants... Je me suis même vu pratiquement arriver aux mains avec un thai pour te dire !
Aux philips, aucun problème la dessus !
Dans les 2 pays, j'étais avec une amie locale, ça joue peut être aussi ! Pour info, j'étais malade pendant une journée en thai, à ne plus pouvoir bouger et heureusement que mon ami thai m'a accompagné à l'hopital car il m'aurait fait appliquer le tarif foreign, c'est même mon amie qui me l'a dit pour te dire...
J'ai passé en tout cas un moment beaucoup plus cool aux philips en tout cas
Les taxis qui veulent pas mettre leur meter, qui te prennent la tête quand tu veux pas monter dans leur taxi, impossible de négocier avec certains commercants...
Je me suis même vu pratiquement arriver aux mains avec un thai pour te dire !
2 petite chose 1/ en thailande il y a beaucoup de chose qui ne sont pas negotiable avec les commercants , ce n est pas l inde ou le maroc 2/ le prix dans les hopitaux n est pas variable , dans un hopital prive tu as interet a avoir une assurance et dans un hopital public tu suis la procedure d inscription et aucun probleme
petit defaut des amies thaie meme quand tu les connais assez bien, elles ont tendances a prendre un peu partie pour leur compatriote (en particulier entre issan) se disant qu une petite augmentation serait sympa pour eux et pas grand chose pour un riche europeens😉
2 petite chose 1/ en thailande il y a beaucoup de chose qui ne sont pas negotiable avec les commercants , ce n est pas l inde ou le maroc 2/ le prix dans les hopitaux n est pas variable , dans un hopital prive tu as interet a avoir une assurance et dans un hopital public tu suis la procedure d inscription et aucun probleme
petit defaut des amies thaie meme quand tu les connais assez bien, elles ont tendances a prendre un peu partie pour leur compatriote (en particulier entre issan) se disant qu une petite augmentation serait sympa pour eux et pas grand chose pour un riche europeens😉
Les thaïlandais sont des pros de l'arnaque mesquine dans les endroits touristiques.
J'ai eu des expériences mémorables dans le sud, et je parle thaï, de haute compétition. Mais le sud est spécialiste en la matière, pour moi ça ne fait aucun doute. C'est la région qui profite le plus du tourisme, et souvent pas de belle manière.
Par contre l'honnêteté des thaïlandais me surprend souvent en dehors de ces quelques endroits. On se fait rarement arnaquer à la campagne et là ou il n'y a pas trop de farangs (qui sont tous aux mêmes endroits). Par ailleurs, les marges des petits vendeurs (ambulants ou non) sont souvent très peu importantes. Et les prix sont indiqués dans la plupart des endroits. Les arnaques en Thaïlande, c'est clairement en deçà de ce qu'on pourrait imaginer. Et ça porte rarement sur des sommes importantes (sauf pour ceux qui fréquentent les filles de bars sans préparation préalable, mais là on est dans un autre registre).
Par contre l'honnêteté des thaïlandais me surprend souvent en dehors de ces quelques endroits. On se fait rarement arnaquer à la campagne et là ou il n'y a pas trop de farangs (qui sont tous aux mêmes endroits). Par ailleurs, les marges des petits vendeurs (ambulants ou non) sont souvent très peu importantes. Et les prix sont indiqués dans la plupart des endroits. Les arnaques en Thaïlande, c'est clairement en deçà de ce qu'on pourrait imaginer. Et ça porte rarement sur des sommes importantes (sauf pour ceux qui fréquentent les filles de bars sans préparation préalable, mais là on est dans un autre registre).
Et puis c est mon experience (bon et celle des gens avec qui je parle ici aussi) ces petites arnaques. ce n est pas l enfer non plus. a Bangkok la grande majorite des taxi met le meter, a Manille une plus grande proportion essaie de te la faire a l envers. Dans le sud de la thailande je n ai pas eu de pb meme si j ai trouve les gens moins cools mais bon, le barometre de la coolitude c est subjectif.
j avais lu sur le forum qq trucs du style le flic qui t annonce qu il n y a plus de bateau et demande de lui graisser la patte etc. heureusement.
pour la maid je ne suis pas non plus la seule, surtout qd qq un ecrit : jamais eu de pb avec LES maids. je n en ai eu que 2 ans 5 ans... (enfin la je viens enfin de changer)
bref thailande ou philippines, tout le monde semble avoir fait les deux ici ! j ai adore Mindoro et prefere Kho Phi phi a Coron :P tac je relance le debat !
pour la maid je ne suis pas non plus la seule, surtout qd qq un ecrit : jamais eu de pb avec LES maids. je n en ai eu que 2 ans 5 ans... (enfin la je viens enfin de changer)
bref thailande ou philippines, tout le monde semble avoir fait les deux ici ! j ai adore Mindoro et prefere Kho Phi phi a Coron :P tac je relance le debat !
J'ai souvent pris un bateau à Batangas pour Puerto Galera et jamais je n'ai entezndu de chose pareille.
Les guichets sont là, ils sont accessinles sans avoir besoin d' un flic, et toutes les heures sont indiquées.
Eviter la compagnie FATHER & SONS, bateaux lents.
Par contre FALCON est ce qu' il y a de mieux
Ouai bein ce sont des mecs de fathers et machin. a l entree du terminal (enfin du port) on est arrives en caisse, le flic nous a fait nous arreter nous a demande 50 php de je ne sais quoi d ailleurs puis ensuite nous a declare qu il n y avait pas de bateau avant 17h (il etait 13h50...) et nous a recommande le sien. mais j avais lu (sans doute ds le Lonely en fait) cette histoire.
ensuite les mecs de fathers nous ont annonce 320 php/personne et ailleurs c etait 300. bref rien de bien mechant mais ca plus ca plus la bouteille d eau a propos de la quelle on nous a menti pour qu on l achete hors de prix... ca m a saoulee.
😉😄😏 ! 😠🏴☠️😕 !
raph
Tout ce qui ne me tue pas, me rends plus fort Ni dieux, ni maitres
Tout ce qui ne me tue pas, me rends plus fort Ni dieux, ni maitres
ah c est malin bande de bien penseurs ! chaque fois qu on emet une critique on nous dit : rentre chez toi ! super j espere qu on dit pareil aux immigres en france qui se font arnaquer par les taxi parisiens ou les garagistes (de quelques euros seulement)... mais j ai de l argent donc on peut me voler. belle morale dites moi !
heureusement que le debat ne porte pas sur la france mes amis... mais ou va le monde ! ;)
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heureusement que le debat ne porte pas sur la france mes amis... mais ou va le monde ! ;)
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Non, ce n'est pas ça.
Le fait est que :
1. Je n'ai pas la sensation qu' on essaye de me rouler, sauf en de très rares circonstances.
2. Etant hôte d' un pays où les choses sont ce qu'elles sont ( et bien qu'elles changent doucement pour un mieux) , à moi de m'adapter, de " faire avec" et de savoir où sont les pièges éventuels. Sans me plaindre parce qu' on m'a fourgué une bouteille d'eau 20 pesos au lieu de 10....
Le fait est que :
1. Je n'ai pas la sensation qu' on essaye de me rouler, sauf en de très rares circonstances.
2. Etant hôte d' un pays où les choses sont ce qu'elles sont ( et bien qu'elles changent doucement pour un mieux) , à moi de m'adapter, de " faire avec" et de savoir où sont les pièges éventuels. Sans me plaindre parce qu' on m'a fourgué une bouteille d'eau 20 pesos au lieu de 10....
ah bon ? parce que je ne parle pas tagalog non plus...
Les thaïlandais ne parlent que très peu l'anglais et beaucoup le parlent très mal. Ils le savent et c'est pourquoi tu auras moins d'ouverture avec eux. Tandis qu'aux Philipines, l'anglais est beaucoup mieux maîtrisé. Maintenant tu as compris.
Les thaïlandais ne parlent que très peu l'anglais et beaucoup le parlent très mal. Ils le savent et c'est pourquoi tu auras moins d'ouverture avec eux. Tandis qu'aux Philipines, l'anglais est beaucoup mieux maîtrisé. Maintenant tu as compris.
Non, pas seulement, il y aura toujours une barrière entre un thai et un farang...qui n'existe pas avec les Pinoys !😇
raph
Tout ce qui ne me tue pas, me rends plus fort Ni dieux, ni maitres
Tout ce qui ne me tue pas, me rends plus fort Ni dieux, ni maitres
Ça demande un développement...
concernant les guesthouse est ce que on peut avoir des chambres comfortables pour 10euros grand max?sur luzon et cebu principalement
Chambres confortables pour 560/570/590 Php??.....tout est relatif....ça peut le faire en confort de base, pas partout; mais c'est tout de meme chercher le beurre ;la crémiere.........
Le prix le plus significatif serait 800/1000 Php.
Nav
merci nav.C est bien ce que je craignais ce pays n est pas fait pour les routards, dommage
Pourquoi????
il y a bien des routards en Thaïlande!
De la route j"en fait aux Philippines
Nav😉
Je pense qu'il voulait dire de routard sans le sou 😛 c'est marrant comme quoi être routard voudrait dire être pauvre 😮 j'ai connu bien des routards blindés de blés et ca les empêchaient pas de dormir sous une tente, plus un état d'esprit que de fortune il me semble 😉
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
je trouve ce forum de plus en plus moralisateur et c est dommage.
les sentences "maintenant tu as compris" sont debiles. j ai vecu 4 ans en thailande ou j avais deja voyage, j ai voyage au vietnam chine laos cambodge birmanie et je vis aux philippines depuis 2 mois
or je ne me targue pas d avoir "compris" quoique ce soit, si ce n est, merci, que les pinoys parlent anglais et pas les thais et en tant que linguiste je suis assez bien placee pour savoir ce que peut apporter le fait de ne pas parler la meme langue qu un interlocuteur en terme de comm.
cependant je parle de mon experience et je me fous qu elle vous plaise ou pas, qu elle soit ds vos criteres ou pas et je me demande pourquoi vous la jugez d ailleurs : qu est ce que le jugement vient faire ici ? dans un forum de voyage destines a des touristes principalement ? si vous n aimez pas les touristes, arretez le forum. non je n aime pas me faire arnaquer, ni ici ni en france, et je n aime pas ces cons de francais qui prennent les immigres pour de bonnes poires, ni ici ni ailleurs. vous pronez l egalite mais juste qd elle se teinte de defense de votre pretendu pays : ok c est du nationalisme, reconnaissez le, ce sont les arguments de le pen : la france tu l aimes ou tu la quittes et en attendant tu fermes ta gueule. 20 php ce n est rien pour moi d ailleurs ai-je parle de mon lest financier ? non. c est bien facile de me juger alors qu on ne sait pas du tout comment vous etes arrives la, ds quelles conditions et qu est ce qui vous a amenes a rester. et arretez les poncifes du style : la france te vole d en haut ! non mais franchement ou vous etes les gars la ? n etes vous pas ds un super pays corrompu ? vous etes philippins c est ca ? vous vivez ici donc vous etes aveugles a tout probleme que pose ce pays ? je connais tres bien les types de gens qui s installent a l etranger, et parlant la langue locale ou non, la plupart des hommes sont maries a des locales (et ont appris la langue non pas par amour de l humanite mais pour communiquer avec leur nana et pcq ils comptaient s integrer). Noble perspective mais qt a moi je baragouine du thai comme je baragouinerai du tagalog ds un moment et je partirai ailleurs ds 3 ans puisque mon contrat est de 3 ans.
ds le fond vous etes vous aussi consommateurs que moi, la femme en plus. (bein ouai pas de ma faute si les asiat et les femmes blanches ne vont pas ensemble... ou rarement. en Amerique du sud je parlais tres bien espagnol et j avais plein de copains locaux, bcp plus que les hommes etrangers !) mais vous etes devenus nationalistes a mort, juste ce que je fuis de la france quoi...
or je ne me targue pas d avoir "compris" quoique ce soit, si ce n est, merci, que les pinoys parlent anglais et pas les thais et en tant que linguiste je suis assez bien placee pour savoir ce que peut apporter le fait de ne pas parler la meme langue qu un interlocuteur en terme de comm.
cependant je parle de mon experience et je me fous qu elle vous plaise ou pas, qu elle soit ds vos criteres ou pas et je me demande pourquoi vous la jugez d ailleurs : qu est ce que le jugement vient faire ici ? dans un forum de voyage destines a des touristes principalement ? si vous n aimez pas les touristes, arretez le forum. non je n aime pas me faire arnaquer, ni ici ni en france, et je n aime pas ces cons de francais qui prennent les immigres pour de bonnes poires, ni ici ni ailleurs. vous pronez l egalite mais juste qd elle se teinte de defense de votre pretendu pays : ok c est du nationalisme, reconnaissez le, ce sont les arguments de le pen : la france tu l aimes ou tu la quittes et en attendant tu fermes ta gueule. 20 php ce n est rien pour moi d ailleurs ai-je parle de mon lest financier ? non. c est bien facile de me juger alors qu on ne sait pas du tout comment vous etes arrives la, ds quelles conditions et qu est ce qui vous a amenes a rester. et arretez les poncifes du style : la france te vole d en haut ! non mais franchement ou vous etes les gars la ? n etes vous pas ds un super pays corrompu ? vous etes philippins c est ca ? vous vivez ici donc vous etes aveugles a tout probleme que pose ce pays ? je connais tres bien les types de gens qui s installent a l etranger, et parlant la langue locale ou non, la plupart des hommes sont maries a des locales (et ont appris la langue non pas par amour de l humanite mais pour communiquer avec leur nana et pcq ils comptaient s integrer). Noble perspective mais qt a moi je baragouine du thai comme je baragouinerai du tagalog ds un moment et je partirai ailleurs ds 3 ans puisque mon contrat est de 3 ans.
ds le fond vous etes vous aussi consommateurs que moi, la femme en plus. (bein ouai pas de ma faute si les asiat et les femmes blanches ne vont pas ensemble... ou rarement. en Amerique du sud je parlais tres bien espagnol et j avais plein de copains locaux, bcp plus que les hommes etrangers !) mais vous etes devenus nationalistes a mort, juste ce que je fuis de la france quoi...
Sur tous les messages que vous avez postés ici depuis le moment où vous êtes venue enrichir les Philippines de votre présence, peu n' ont pas comporté de plaintes et gémissements concernant des arnaques, votre nanny qui vous pique des tampax et autres griefs sans grande consistance. Sans oublier votre refus clairement annoncé - et pour moi, choquant- d'avoir des échanges autres que superficiels avec les élèves dont vous avez la charge.
Vous êtes une expatriée. Pas une touriste. Comportez vous comme telle. Ou bien votre place n'est pas dans notre " prétendu pays", qu'en pensez-vous? Vous représentez juste ce que je fuis de la France, vous aussi.
Vous parlez de corruption. Vous intéressez-vous ne fût-ce qu' un minimum à ce qu se passe aux Philippines actuellement à ce sujet? Connaissez vous les enjeux du moment, les efforts de la nouvelle administration pour contrer cette corruption, pour enfin faire sortir le pays de l' ornière? Ou bien êtes vous simplement " consommatrice des Philippines" comme vous semblez l' être de votre fonction d'enseignante?
Vous êtes une expatriée. Pas une touriste. Comportez vous comme telle. Ou bien votre place n'est pas dans notre " prétendu pays", qu'en pensez-vous? Vous représentez juste ce que je fuis de la France, vous aussi.
Vous parlez de corruption. Vous intéressez-vous ne fût-ce qu' un minimum à ce qu se passe aux Philippines actuellement à ce sujet? Connaissez vous les enjeux du moment, les efforts de la nouvelle administration pour contrer cette corruption, pour enfin faire sortir le pays de l' ornière? Ou bien êtes vous simplement " consommatrice des Philippines" comme vous semblez l' être de votre fonction d'enseignante?
c etait sur que tu repondrais ca en te planquant derriere de l agressivite et cela ne change rien au fait que vous passez votre temps a noyauter des discussions en vous faisant le garant de la bonne moralite.
votre moralite je n en veux pas.
ce que tu penses connaitre de mon metier -toi qui te projettes si bien a ma place- ne m interesses pas car ici non plus tu n as absolument pas de legitimite, malheureusement pour toi Getehem, tu ne peux pas avoir tjs raison et qd tu seras prof on reparlera de tout ca.
je suis expatrie comme toi, que tu le veuilles ou non et je gagne 2000e par mois : toi tu paies des soins dentaires a ta maid et manges du boeuf bourguignon c est bien. moi non. tu cherches trop a t immiscer dans la vie privee pour en tirer des arguments generalistes. veux tu que je te parle reellement de ma situation financiere ou alors tu preferes trier sur le volet, comme ce que tu fais tout le temps, ce qui t arranges pour en faire dea arguments a ton avantage ?
je respecte les touristes tout comme je respecte les expat tout comme je respecte les gens en general, sauf les moralisateurs coinces comme toi et les voleurs, riches ou pauvres, qui donne des lecons a tout bout de champ persuade d avoir trouve la verite pour entrer en contact avec la population de son "pretendu pays". manque de bol on peut etre expat et bosser a fidesco, virlanie etc. mais pour ceci il faut encore exposer sa vie privee dans un endroit qui n est a l origine pas prevu pour cela.
on est sur un forum de voyage et vous etes toute une ribambelle de gens vivant ici et donnant des conseils, des recommandations, des diktats souvent, pour vivre selon votre modele de vie. je me fous de ton modele de vie tout comme tu devrais te foutre du mien. et oui je suis au courant de ce qu il se passe actuellement a propos de la corruption et j ai d ailleurs vu un tres beau reportage a ce propos.
si sur un forum de voyage je ne peux pas dire que des flics m ont tape de la thune sans en etre outragee alors ce forum est caduc. la corruption policiere est gerbante et lire les journaux ne donne pas bonne morale surtout qd on sait ce qu ils comptent faire avec les gamins des rues et l incarceration. mais ah pardon, je suis expat, j ignore tout, je vis ds ma cellule doree et j emmerde le monde.
reducteur. manicheen et nationaliste... ca me suffit a penser que ce forum n est pas fait pour toi, car il n y a que des gens a mepriser : les parisiens, les expat, les touristes qui veulent depenser plus de 500php dans un bungalow etc. je comprends pourquoi tu as fui la france : ici au moins, la pauvrete, la misere, le manque de droit, le sourire legitimisent ton empathie. nous, francais, parisiens, expat, on est de la m....
je me demande en gros ce que tu viens faire ici ? tirer a vue sur ce qui ne te plait pas ? bein tire dans le vide alors.
vive les philippines vive la thailande et ras le bol des donneurs de lecon, meme pas prof en plus hahaha ! bien le bonsoir, continue a cracher ta bile....
voyagez peu importe ou mais voyagez !! philippines ou thailande, bouffe ou pas bouffe, vous rencontrez plein de gens formidables, et meme des riches et parfois blancs ! sisi :)
je respecte les touristes tout comme je respecte les expat tout comme je respecte les gens en general, sauf les moralisateurs coinces comme toi et les voleurs, riches ou pauvres, qui donne des lecons a tout bout de champ persuade d avoir trouve la verite pour entrer en contact avec la population de son "pretendu pays". manque de bol on peut etre expat et bosser a fidesco, virlanie etc. mais pour ceci il faut encore exposer sa vie privee dans un endroit qui n est a l origine pas prevu pour cela.
on est sur un forum de voyage et vous etes toute une ribambelle de gens vivant ici et donnant des conseils, des recommandations, des diktats souvent, pour vivre selon votre modele de vie. je me fous de ton modele de vie tout comme tu devrais te foutre du mien. et oui je suis au courant de ce qu il se passe actuellement a propos de la corruption et j ai d ailleurs vu un tres beau reportage a ce propos.
si sur un forum de voyage je ne peux pas dire que des flics m ont tape de la thune sans en etre outragee alors ce forum est caduc. la corruption policiere est gerbante et lire les journaux ne donne pas bonne morale surtout qd on sait ce qu ils comptent faire avec les gamins des rues et l incarceration. mais ah pardon, je suis expat, j ignore tout, je vis ds ma cellule doree et j emmerde le monde.
reducteur. manicheen et nationaliste... ca me suffit a penser que ce forum n est pas fait pour toi, car il n y a que des gens a mepriser : les parisiens, les expat, les touristes qui veulent depenser plus de 500php dans un bungalow etc. je comprends pourquoi tu as fui la france : ici au moins, la pauvrete, la misere, le manque de droit, le sourire legitimisent ton empathie. nous, francais, parisiens, expat, on est de la m....
je me demande en gros ce que tu viens faire ici ? tirer a vue sur ce qui ne te plait pas ? bein tire dans le vide alors.
vive les philippines vive la thailande et ras le bol des donneurs de lecon, meme pas prof en plus hahaha ! bien le bonsoir, continue a cracher ta bile....
voyagez peu importe ou mais voyagez !! philippines ou thailande, bouffe ou pas bouffe, vous rencontrez plein de gens formidables, et meme des riches et parfois blancs ! sisi :)
même pas prof, en plus, hahaha!
Non effectivement, pas prof, licencié en psychologie et n'ayant rien à prouver après une carrière très bien remplie et très fructueuse.
Et comme j'ai des enfants ici, en Belgique ( Facultés Universitaires St Louis) , en Espagne ( English College, Marbella) - et en Allemagne ( Heinrich Von Kleist Schule, Berlin) , tu me pardonneras d' être un tantinet concerné par l'attitude de leurs enseignants.
Qui par chance sont de vrais enseignants qui aiment encore leur métier.
Non effectivement, pas prof, licencié en psychologie et n'ayant rien à prouver après une carrière très bien remplie et très fructueuse.
Et comme j'ai des enfants ici, en Belgique ( Facultés Universitaires St Louis) , en Espagne ( English College, Marbella) - et en Allemagne ( Heinrich Von Kleist Schule, Berlin) , tu me pardonneras d' être un tantinet concerné par l'attitude de leurs enseignants.
Qui par chance sont de vrais enseignants qui aiment encore leur métier.
Salut Georges,
Quelle belle affaire🤪🤪🤪 😉
J'espere que la rhetorique que mon garcon apprendra a l'ecole sera d'une autre qualite.
Je m'interroge donc quant a savoir ou le mettre, certainement pas la ou sevissent certains.
Mais laissons cela.
Je pense toujours a faire un saut a Tagaytay un de ces jours, je te previens sans faute.
Amities,
Denis.
Quelle belle affaire🤪🤪🤪 😉
J'espere que la rhetorique que mon garcon apprendra a l'ecole sera d'une autre qualite.
Je m'interroge donc quant a savoir ou le mettre, certainement pas la ou sevissent certains.
Mais laissons cela.
Je pense toujours a faire un saut a Tagaytay un de ces jours, je te previens sans faute.
Amities,
Denis.
CouCou d'une perle des Philippines, Bantayan Island
Ah la meilleure école, je pense est la BRENT INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL....
C'est pas donné, mais j'ai discuté plusieurs fois avec le Principal, j'ai visité, c'est super à tous points de vue!
Pour Tagaytay, c'est quand tu veux. Essaye juste de passer un coup de fil la veille, que je mette la San Mig au frais.....
C'est pas donné, mais j'ai discuté plusieurs fois avec le Principal, j'ai visité, c'est super à tous points de vue!
Pour Tagaytay, c'est quand tu veux. Essaye juste de passer un coup de fil la veille, que je mette la San Mig au frais.....
Il n y a pas comme en thainande un tourisme tres organise avec differentes couches : une pour les routards une pour le sex une pour les groupes etc ...
Les hotels sont aux philippines un peu plus cher pour une moindre qualite mais on peu faire aussi un voyage pas trop cher
Par ex y a t
C est une premiere regle du voyage, ne pas repondre au premier qui te saute dessus et continuer d avancer
Ben, ils sont Bouddhistes...Et ca fait tout!
raph
Tout ce qui ne me tue pas, me rends plus fort Ni dieux, ni maitres
Tout ce qui ne me tue pas, me rends plus fort Ni dieux, ni maitres
Routard oui !Mais pas clochard-routard...pour ca il faut aller en Inde ou Afrique ! Je déteste croiser des "routard-clochard" aux Phils qui sont
souvent sales, mal rasé, vulgaires et se comportent comme des conquérants...Les gens aux Phils ont des fois des vetements troués...mais
toujours propres !J'ai des fois honte de discuter avec ces routards radins, qu'ont des sous...mais ne veulent surtout pas enrichir(!) les habitants !
Tout prendre et rien donner...le wasabi me monte au nez!😠
PS: 13 a 15 eur. pour une chambre simple a 2 c'est pas cher! Et ca m'arrive de ne payer que 200p la piaule parfois, ce qui équilibre, quand je paye
des fois 2000 ou 3000p dans les endroits très touristiques(!)Tu peux toujours payer moins cher , tout dépends du confort recherché...😉
raph
Tout ce qui ne me tue pas, me rends plus fort Ni dieux, ni maitres
Tout ce qui ne me tue pas, me rends plus fort Ni dieux, ni maitres
Un peu cliché tout çà.
Pas cher 15 euros pour deux à l'hôtel aux Philippines, ou le salaire moyen est de 3 euros, et avec la moitié de la population qui n'y arrive même pas...
Déjà qu'on considère le Cambodge et la Thaïlande comme ayant dans de nombreux domaines des tarifs disproportionnés par rapport au niveau de vie local...on est quand même très loin de 15 euros la nuit en moyenne.
Le fait que les touristes et étrangers dépensent de l'argent sans compter dans les pays qu'ils visitent (pays pauvres ou dits "en voie de développement" etc...) est davantage un problème qu'une solution.
En son temps sur ce forum un certain Karolus avait parfaitement exprimé çà...à Phnom Penh, les étrangers se foutent bien de lâcher 1 dollar ou deux pour faire quelques centaines de mètres en moto. Puis, évidemment, les chauffeurs tiennent ces prix délirants pour la norme, et n'acceptent plus les courses à tarif moindre. Et les locaux, dans un pays qui n'est pas franchement réputé pour son service de bus de ville, peuvent utiliser leurs jambes! Le Cambodge est un exemple frappant de cette dérégulation à peu près totale engendrée par le fric des étrangers (soldats de l'ONU, puis ONG et salaires mirobolants, puis le tourisme de masse).
Le coût de la vie, ce n'est pas en fonction de nos revenus et de notre niveau de vie qu'il faut l'évaluer...c'est en fonction du contexte local. Contrairement à ce qu'on lit très fréquemment, de ce point de vue là, la Thaïlande (par exemple) est loin d'être un pays peu cher. Ça ne l'est que pour les étrangers.
Pas cher 15 euros pour deux à l'hôtel aux Philippines, ou le salaire moyen est de 3 euros, et avec la moitié de la population qui n'y arrive même pas...
Déjà qu'on considère le Cambodge et la Thaïlande comme ayant dans de nombreux domaines des tarifs disproportionnés par rapport au niveau de vie local...on est quand même très loin de 15 euros la nuit en moyenne.
Le fait que les touristes et étrangers dépensent de l'argent sans compter dans les pays qu'ils visitent (pays pauvres ou dits "en voie de développement" etc...) est davantage un problème qu'une solution.
En son temps sur ce forum un certain Karolus avait parfaitement exprimé çà...à Phnom Penh, les étrangers se foutent bien de lâcher 1 dollar ou deux pour faire quelques centaines de mètres en moto. Puis, évidemment, les chauffeurs tiennent ces prix délirants pour la norme, et n'acceptent plus les courses à tarif moindre. Et les locaux, dans un pays qui n'est pas franchement réputé pour son service de bus de ville, peuvent utiliser leurs jambes! Le Cambodge est un exemple frappant de cette dérégulation à peu près totale engendrée par le fric des étrangers (soldats de l'ONU, puis ONG et salaires mirobolants, puis le tourisme de masse).
Le coût de la vie, ce n'est pas en fonction de nos revenus et de notre niveau de vie qu'il faut l'évaluer...c'est en fonction du contexte local. Contrairement à ce qu'on lit très fréquemment, de ce point de vue là, la Thaïlande (par exemple) est loin d'être un pays peu cher. Ça ne l'est que pour les étrangers.
La moitié de la population qui n'y arrive pas??? Donc il y aurais 45 millions de clochards aux Phils? T'en fais pas, ils ont leur système a eux et se
débrouillent très bien...Bien sur a Ermita-Malate il y a des clochards...mais curieusement...uniquement la !Ailleurs a Manille tu les vois pas, ils savent
ou faire la manche (auprès des touristes)...Une anecdote;dans Mabini , je vois sur le trottoir une femme avec 2 gosses couchés sur un carton...
Je sors toutes les pièces que j'ai sur moi, (une 10zaine de pes.)je les lui mets dans la main et part, quand je l'entends m'invectiver , je me retournes
elle m'insulte (en taga), je me précipites vers elle et saisi toutes les pieces que je viens de lui donner, la elle était bouche-bee, et les passants m'ont
applaudi pour cette action...c'est la dernière fois que j'ai donné des sous a des mendiants !😠
raph
Tout ce qui ne me tue pas, me rends plus fort Ni dieux, ni maitres
Tout ce qui ne me tue pas, me rends plus fort Ni dieux, ni maitres
Tu te trompes en tout cas pour les Philippines: 1000 pesos la chambre c'est bien le tarif local payé par les Philippins ici. C'est à dire par les Philippins qui vont à l’hôtel et qui ne sont pas le mêmes que ceux qui gagnent 3euros/jours (d'ailleurs le salaire minimum est plus élevé que ça, autour de 7 euros à Manille). J'ai plusieurs amis Philippins qui ont des agences de voyage s'adressant au marché local (aux Philippines le tourisme domestique est plus important en volume que le tourisme international), leurs tarifs sont très largement au dessus de ce budget de 10 euros la nuit!
Il s'agit d'autre part d'une stratégie choisie par le Department of Tourism aux Philippines: développer le tourisme moyen et haut de gamme et décourager les backpackers. Il ont fait l'analyse que le modèle Thai de tourisme de masse bas de gamme impliquait un impact environnemental et sociétal important sans pour autant maximiser les revenus.
Pour ce qui est des distorsions sur les prix, elles sont effectivement un effet secondaire néfaste mais elle ne deviennent vraiment un problème qu'en cas de tourisme de masse ce qui n'est pas le chemin choisi par le gouvernement Philippin.
Bien vu!Bien dit!😉😛
raph
Tout ce qui ne me tue pas, me rends plus fort Ni dieux, ni maitres
Tout ce qui ne me tue pas, me rends plus fort Ni dieux, ni maitres
Je suis en accord avec vous tous les amis sur ce sujet!!
je vous salue bien bas et applaudis la pertinence de tous ces messages:Getehem;Denis, Hoost;lemonk et notre ami corse!
En espérant unjour si possible partager la San mig!
Raph ;j "ai acheté mon billet 695 euros(Aller/retour;Manila/Toulouse) pour 2012;
on pourrait se rencontrer chez Denis , selon ton emploi du temps ou sur Cebu;
je serai aux Philippines du 18Février 2012 au 9 Avril 2012 si tout va bien
nav😉
Pas sur que ce soit une strategie gouvertementale
Drole d exuse que ca ne raporte pas quand tu vois les milliards de baht qui tourne a kaosan
En plus tu peux vraiment faire un voyage routard au phil : y a 2 ans ans siquijor joli bungalow en bordest de plage700pas b bus et feery . L annee derniere a bantayan joli bungalow dans un beau jardin a pas conforrt de base a 500pas b pesos poulet rotis a 70 pesos, repas poissons grilles 300 400 pesos a 2pas au suttukil local
Aux phil il y a un tourisme philippins un petit peu organise mais qui ne correspond pas exactement au gout europeens si vous connaissez la maniere de voyager des pinoys
En plus pour l instant une petite demande qui fait que l offre reste reduite conjugue avec quelque difficulte de transport pour obtenir les produits necessaire a un tourisme de masse
Combien d annees a attendu boracai pour l electr?e? D ailleurs peut on encore trouver. Des bungalow a 5un 600 pessoé a boracai pour.?
Comprend pas ta dernière phrase??? Tanduay???😏😉
raph
Tout ce qui ne me tue pas, me rends plus fort Ni dieux, ni maitres
Tout ce qui ne me tue pas, me rends plus fort Ni dieux, ni maitres
C'est la stratégie officielle du DoT avec des axes ecotourisme, tourisme d'affaire, plongée et tourisme haut de gamme ainsi que des cibles identifiées (Asie du nord, moyen orient ...). Après savoir si ils auront les moyens de leurs ambitions, c'est une autre histoire mais on voit quand même beaucoup de nouveaux investissements dans le très haut de gamme.
Il n'a jamais été question de dire que le tourisme ne rapporte pas en Thaïlande, juste que le rapport nuisances/revenus n'est peut être pas optimum. La nécessité de la montée en gamme du tourisme en Asie est d'ailleurs une analyse partagée par beaucoup de pays (l'inde, la malaisie ...etc).
Non gros doigt sur smartphone 😉
Et ou s applique t elle cette politique??? A makati 😉
Un pays qui a des ressources touristiques se doit de les valoriser au mieux. C'est toujours mieux que d'envoyer ses habitants travailler comme esclaves à l'autre bout du monde. Prise de conscience récente des autorités aux Philippines.
Et tu ne m'en voudras pas de dire que les " back-packers" ne sont pas un moyen de rentabiliser les ressources en question, car ils laissent derrière eux plus de canettes vides que de biftons, non?
Maintenant en dehors des zones à fort développement touristique, il restera encore pour longtemps des " resorts" familiaux très bon marché où la fête continuera autour d' un tilapia grillé ou d' un bout de gras de porc.
Elle est censée s'appliquer partout mais savoir si ils auront les moyens de leurs ambitions, c'est une autre histoire
Il y a quand même déjà des choses en cours: un resort Ayala à El Nido, Banyan Tree qui va investir plusieurs dizaines de millions de dollars dans un resort à Coron (en standby?), à Manille ils tentent de faire émerger Resort World adossé au Marriott... etc
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Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
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4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.