Trip to Thailand and Laos
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Translated into English.

KA Kate Globetrotter ·
Seriously, in France in 2026, you’d end up in court if you take a kid’s photo on the street, right?

No way—there’s no law against it. It’s publishing the photo without permission that *might* lead to legal trouble, but street photography rights (in France) balance with freedom of expression. It’s still a pretty gray area legally.

Anyway, that’s a whole other topic—it all comes down to common sense 😉
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KA Kate Globetrotter ·
I went to Thailand almost 20 years ago—back then, it was touristy but still manageable, I think. It was my first time discovering Asia, and I have a memory of it that’s probably glorified by time.

I’m afraid that if I go back, I’ll be disappointed by how the country has changed. After all, it’s one of the top tourist destinations in the region...

I went there 16 years ago too. But what little I saw this time around made me want to go back and explore more, especially in the Isan region.
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MA Marien33 Veteran ·
I just discovered this travel journal tonight, which I read straight through up to page 9. Had to stop at some point, though...

I’m not sure I’ll be heading back to Thailand next year between two trips to India. I’ve been thinking about Laos... For now, this journal—story and photos—makes me want to go see for myself...

I regret Nathalie’s accident, sympathize with her pain, and admire her courage, because even if she doesn’t want to dwell on it, you can tell it’s still there... (the pain) “On a scale of zero to ten, where do you place the cursor?” I know... This misadventure is unfortunate, but it makes this journal incredibly vivid. I love trips—and travel journals—where something happens, where emotions come through, leaving aside lifeless stories and photos. Even though I’m caught up in my Indian life, I need to find time to read the rest tomorrow...
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RI RichardXI Regular ·
Thanks Marien for your post. Nathalie’s accident is one of those unforeseeable things that happen during a trip, even when you’ve planned everything, mapped it all out. But it’s the kind of issue you could just as easily run into while walking around your own neighborhood. Of course, it takes on a whole different dimension when you don’t have your usual bearings, far from home, in a country considered "exotic." I’m thinking of Pagal, who’s "India-compatible," and the troubles he had with his son. Nathalie was well taken care of and well treated at that small clinic in Nong Khiaw, then at the private hospital in Paksé. We hear those anxiety-inducing comments from well-meaning friends all too often when we’re about to leave: "You’re going to India? You’re going to Laos? What if something happens to you?" And I think you know exactly what I’m talking about. 😉
MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
Wait, in France in 2026, you’d get sued if you take a kid’s photo on the street, right?

Nah, no law against it.

Your comment reminded me of my trip to Beijing over 20 years ago. Our guide dropped us off in a public park for "a chance to connect with locals." Turns out, lots of kids were playing there, and the moms insisted we take photos of their (at the time, only) child—so proud of them! You can imagine how awkward that was…

I wonder if the reverse could’ve ever happened 😕
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux." Marcel Proust
KA Kate Globetrotter ·
We hear all too often the anxiety-inducing remarks from well-meaning friends warning us just as we're about to leave: "You're going to India? You're going to Laos? What if something happens to you?"

And today: "But Nath didn't feel like going back to France"?
Mes photos sur Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/153304262@N05/albums "Le Temps nous égare. Le Temps nous étreint. Le Temps nous est gare. Le Temps nous est train".
MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
We hear all too often the anxiety-inducing remarks from well-meaning friends warning us just as we're about to leave: "You're going to India? You're going to Laos? What if something happens to you?"

We all have those kinds of "friends" around us. When it comes to flights, I have a friend who’s terrified of flying, and every time I tell her: "Dying in a plane? No problem, but please, on the way back—otherwise, it’s all wasted…" 🙂
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux." Marcel Proust
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Actually, there are tons of tourists, but they’re Indian. I don’t really see the difference

How can you spot an Indian tourist? They’re the only ones who take your picture!

For me, local tourists kind of blend into the scenery. In India or Indonesia, they don’t really bother me.

In more "natural" countries, way more!
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MA Marien33 Veteran ·
I’d be surprised if Richard talked about flights or air travel in general! He hates being treated, and I quote: "like a crook." The questions, the searches, the paperwork, the fingerprints, the cameras... it drives him nuts!

I feel the same way—I can’t stand going through immigration and security anymore. Especially since I’m leaving for 6 months and I’m lugging way too much electronic gear, so security is a real nightmare. They make me empty all my bags. 4 or 5 trays every time. And even though I’m super careful, I often forget an item in one of the trays or it gets "set aside" for the benefit of one of the security goons. When I got back from Thailand this year, I realized when I arrived home in India that my iPad charger and headlamp were missing... Three or four years ago, I straight-up forgot my laptop in a tray or somewhere on a counter. Never found it! But what’s really unbearable is how they treat travelers! It’s just unacceptable.
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MA Marien33 Veteran ·
Buddhists believe in the reincarnation of both body and spirit. How do they react to the death of their loved ones?

They do like we do—they cry and feel deep sorrow. But in secret. You’re not supposed to show your feelings. Same goes for Hindus. I remember a young man who cried and fainted while lighting his father’s funeral pyre... The family saw it as very inappropriate.
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PH Philippebrg Regular ·
Hello,

Thanks for sharing this—it was a real pleasure to read—and of course, kudos to @Kate for the beautiful photos.

I’d like to build on what I’ve been reading about overtourism in Thailand: In 2025, France welcomed 102 million visitors, while Thailand had 33 million, despite being nearly the same size—so practically three times fewer. While I think it’s still easy to find quiet spots in France during peak tourist season, just imagine what it’s like in Thailand. Tourist "hotspots" in Thailand are clustered in just five or six regions—the ones everyone talks about and where 90% of tourists inevitably flock. I’d say 80% of the country sees few, if any, tourists. And don’t tell me it’s because those places lack interest... You might not find the same amenities, comfort, or transportation options that many travelers look for, and that’s certainly what deters a lot of visitors. Good news for the curious, though—and I know there are still plenty of us out there...

Philippe
MA Marien33 Veteran ·
Well, I just finished reading everything first thing this morning because I’m not sure I’ll have time later. Thanks for this travel journal and the photos of those sites—they’ve really convinced me to head to that region of Laos you visited. Especially the 4,000 Islands. But I’m not as young as I used to be for an itinerary/circuit like 2 days here, 3 days there, trains, buses, and definitely not planes. Like Marie-Jo, I need to stay in the same area for 3 weeks or a month.

I don’t think I’ll go back to Thailand, mainly because of the agricultural burning, which I’ve suffered the consequences of for too long. And the photos are disastrous! Yet it’s that mountainous region I loved so much!

I’ll explain more in my travel journal when I find the courage—and especially the time—to start it. I’m hesitant to begin because once I do, I’ll have to keep going and... finish... And I also feel guilty for not having the time to read other travelers’ journals...

I went with the Sony RX100 VI because I couldn’t handle the weight of my Sony Alpha77 and all the different lenses anymore. Ultra-small, ultra-light, ultra-powerful, but way too many features on such a tiny device, and especially ultra-expensive.
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KA Kate Globetrotter ·
Hi Philippe,

Thanks for stopping by! Your site passion-thailande.com/ is really interesting. It can help a lot of people ;)
Mes photos sur Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/153304262@N05/albums "Le Temps nous égare. Le Temps nous étreint. Le Temps nous est gare. Le Temps nous est train".
KA Kate Globetrotter ·
Hi Marien

I went for the Sony RX100 VI because I couldn’t handle the weight of my Sony Alpha77 and all the different lenses anymore. Ultra small, ultra light, ultra powerful, but way too many features on such a tiny device—and super expensive.

I hesitated between this model and my Canon EOS R50. In the end, I chose the Canon because a lot of users found the Sony too complicated to use. That said, price-wise, they’re pretty much in the same range...
Mes photos sur Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/153304262@N05/albums "Le Temps nous égare. Le Temps nous étreint. Le Temps nous est gare. Le Temps nous est train".
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
I just read this travel journal written by 4-6 people. Thanks for sharing! 🙂
RI RichardXI Regular ·
Thanks Carmen for following along. And your message comes at a good time, since in our discussions with Kate about the next trip, I haven’t given up on the idea of discovering Peru. So I’ll go check out your travel journal. 😉
MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
Thanks Carmen for following along. And your message comes at the perfect time, since in our discussions with Kate about the next trip, I haven’t given up on the idea of discovering Peru. I’ll go check out your travel journal. 😉

That’s a great idea, planning a “next trip” 😉 Be sure to take a look at mine (https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=7776366;#7776366), even if it’s starting to get a bit old... Yeah, I know, I’m plugging it again—so what! 😄
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux." Marcel Proust
RI RichardXI Regular ·
Yeah, I know, I’m spamming, so what!

Well, no, you’re right. I’m going too. But after starting to read Carmen’s travel journal, I’m starting to worry. Her "road trip" sounds pretty intense—you know Kate...
MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
Yeah, I know, I'm being a pain, so what!

Well, no, you're right. I'm going too. But after starting to read Carmen's travel journal, I'm starting to worry. Her "road trip" seems pretty intense—you know Kate...

Okay, I don’t *personally* know Kate, but I do know she’d rather hide behind her new camera than hike the trails of Nong Khiaw. Don’t worry, you can totally explore this part of Peru without her pilgrim’s staff, whether it’s St. James’ or St. Francis’ 😉. Carmen has a mountaineer’s soul—she loves trekking! And it’s not me who’d talk her out of it…
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux." Marcel Proust
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Your message comes at a good time, because in our discussions with Kate about the next trip, I haven't given up on the idea of discovering Peru. I'll go check out your travel journal. 😉

Peru is gorgeous, but I think I read that Kate isn’t really into elevation changes. And outside the coast, the country is far from flat, which could make some legs of the trip a bit challenging.
KA Kate Globetrotter ·
Peru is gorgeous, but I think I read that Kate isn’t really into elevation changes.

I’m a city girl But I can easily do 14 km a day for several days if the paths/streets are flat.
Mes photos sur Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/153304262@N05/albums "Le Temps nous égare. Le Temps nous étreint. Le Temps nous est gare. Le Temps nous est train".
DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
In Peru on the Altiplano (altitude 3,850 m), it's as flat as the Brie plain. During our trip, because of strikes that paralyzed transportation, we left Puno for Juliaca on foot, thinking we could hitchhike or find a bus after the roadblocks at the city's exit. But nothing was moving... so we kept walking, thinking we only had about ten kilometers to cover, but in reality, we ended up doing over 40... without a single uphill climb! !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
Puno/Juliaca is flat because it's by the lake. But hats off for those 40 km!

I don’t know the plains of Brie—I’m more of a reblochon team—but I wouldn’t classify Peru as a "flat" destination. Apart from Lima, as soon as you move around a bit, elevation changes pop up quickly (though they’re not totally deal-breakers).
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux." Marcel Proust
DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
We didn’t even do 10 meters of elevation gain... Our rudimentary map had us believing the distance was at most 15 km. We could see far ahead, but as we kept going, the horizon seemed to always retreat. In total, we covered about 45 km—we were young! The only issue was the lack of hospitality from the locals we met. It was impossible to get even a glass of water. Back then (and maybe still today), *Gringos* weren’t welcome, and I saw multiple times on train trips (Arequipa to Puno) travelers getting pelted with rocks by locals who refused to be photographed... I’ve never experienced that anywhere else.

As for the "flat country" part, that was obviously a joke—it’s actually the only flat area aside from the Pacific coast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Yes, between Puno and Juliaca it’s flat, but the scenery isn’t very pretty. Kate might be able to use it to train for her next trip.😄
DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
It was kind of a 😏 idea to decide to go see Machu Picchu 😄 True, it’s not the most beautiful thing in Peru! (Puno/Juliaca) Just so you know, after that we took a train and it got stoned for not respecting the strike movement!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
I’m not really sure Latin America is the right destination for you.

You’d prefer landscapes, people who avoid photographers, varied terrain, not to mention altitude sickness.

Brazil, but that’s probably not your cup of tea.

Maybe Argentina, outside the northwest?

Or Colombia?
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JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
If I understand correctly, it’s high time to send Kate to the gym. We’re pretty demanding here, and we don’t want to miss any photo opportunities. I can free up a day and come to Narbonne. We’ll find a hill and have Kate walk in front of my car. By revving the engine every now and then, I’m sure she’ll not only walk but also pick up the pace 😎
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
PA Pagaljavab Globetrotter ·
Of course, La Clape!
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Hi Agnes,

More about landscapes, people who hide from photographers, terrain, not to mention altitude sickness.

Landscapes, yes, but there are also plenty of interesting Inca sites to visit. Cities like Cusco and Arequipa are also pleasant to explore. Cusco is hilly, but nothing overwhelming. We saw quite a few tourists really out of breath—a lady even needed oxygen when she arrived at the hotel... But I think it was mostly due to the altitude.

You're right about the photos. Peruvians act a bit like Europeans when it comes to being photographed. If they know you, it’s not a problem, but others don’t like being photographed and will make it very clear.

For altitude sickness, maybe try going up to 3,000 m in Europe first to see how you handle it. Either way, proper acclimatization is essential.
KA Kate Globetrotter ·
If I understand correctly, it’s high time to send Kate to the gym.

And if I understand correctly, everyone’s agreed to make fun of me Pagal, I walked La Clape from one end to the other on foot 😛 It was during a wine tasting. 7 estates in one long morning. I finished the "walk" a little tipsy and in a great mood
Mes photos sur Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/153304262@N05/albums "Le Temps nous égare. Le Temps nous étreint. Le Temps nous est gare. Le Temps nous est train".
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
What goes around comes around!

And just like that, you just need to get friends talking a bit to learn so much about them! I say it’s all very friendly and fun 😛
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
For soroche, maybe try climbing to 3,000 m in Europe to see if you can handle the altitude.

Not easy to do in France. In the Swiss Valais: climb to the Cabane des Dix from Arolla and stay there a good week? 😉 With the ski lifts, you save 400 m of elevation gain, but you still have to climb... 😏 @Kate you can book here, it's open now: https://cabanedesdix.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
PU Puma2A Veteran ·
Hello,

I had left off on page 6 or 7 of your story. Picking up the thread of your journey, I rediscovered images, and especially place names, that had faded from my memory. Thank you for showing me VatPhou, which I really loved. Even if it has nothing to do with Angkor (visited a few years later), this site had an unmatched charm, at least to my personal taste. Thanks also for showing the remains of the locomotive. We were lucky enough to see and talk to its last conductor, who was very old. The machine wasn’t protected at all back then, and I never imagined it would have survived until now. And of course, those majestic Khon Phapheng Falls... We had seen fishermen balancing on astonishing bamboo structures there. I’d heard since that this practice had been banned because of the high number of victims. For our part, we had left from Pakse in a... motorized pirogue, all the way past Vat Phou... What a long day on the Mekong that had been. Thank you for bringing all this back to life. (I don’t even remember what year it was for us... last century)

Best regards.

...
RI RichardXI Regular ·
Hi Alain, Glad to see you could relive this trip to Laos through our travel journal. It was quite some time ago, apparently. Reading us, did you get the feeling that a lot of things had changed?
PU Puma2A Veteran ·
Hello Alain, Glad to see you were able to relive our trip to Laos through our travel journal. That was quite some time ago, apparently. Reading our account, did you get the feeling that a lot had changed?

Regarding change, yes and no!! The infrastructure has changed a lot. For us, the train from Bangkok stopped on the Thai side, and we crossed the "Freedom Bridge" on foot—just after the Australians had gifted it to the country... In Vientiane, there were only silent bicycles. No Chinese train, and no Chinese people either! (not in my memory, at least) The roads weren’t safe, or so we were told... We flew to Luang Prabang. The runway at Vientiane’s airport was still made of very disjointed concrete slabs. We wondered how the landing gear held up!?? On the way there in an ATR, all the Laotians were carrying bread (just like back home)—it was the proper gift to bring when invited to someone’s place. I happened to be seated next to a Laotian man who had served in the French army and had been at Dien Bien Phu. He escaped through the jungle without being captured... He spoke French well. The return trip was in an old plane, a "Chinese copy" of an Antonov (20 or 22)... Not reassuring at all... At boarding, the only way to fasten the seatbelt was to tie a knot (missing metal buckle). Just before takeoff, police violently dragged a Laotian man off the plane...! In the air, the plane weaved between the peaks of the Annamite Range. It was beautiful but terrifying. I thought that if anything went wrong, our only hope was to aim for a water landing in the Mekong... and the engines were literally roaring...

Just a few details that don’t really answer your question—my memories are partly faded now. Back then, there were no digital cameras. I took slides, and they’ve deteriorated badly... buried at the bottom of an old suitcase!! I also enjoyed revisiting the stunning waterfall with pastel-blue waters (at Kuang Si). Thanks again.

... We’d learned a Laotian proverb from a local:

"The Vietnamese plant the rice, The Cambodians watch it grow, The Laotians listen to it grow." 🙂

Best regards.

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DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
"The Vietnamese plant the rice,

The Cambodians watch it grow,

The Laotians listen to it grow"

And the Thais sell it ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
KA Kate Globetrotter ·
"The Vietnamese plant the rice, the Cambodians watch it grow, the Laotians listen to it grow."

And the Thais sell it

Mes photos sur Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/153304262@N05/albums "Le Temps nous égare. Le Temps nous étreint. Le Temps nous est gare. Le Temps nous est train".
RO Rouquine38 Globetrotter ·
For altitude sickness, maybe try climbing to 3,000 m in Europe to see if you can handle the altitude. Either way, good acclimatization is essential.

It's really hard to know if you're prone to altitude sickness. In France, there's nowhere to stay several nights at high altitude. Personally, I started feeling really sick in Chivay (3,600 m), and it didn't leave me until the end of our trip. When we got back from Peru, I found out that Grenoble hospital has a hyperbaric chamber where you can do sessions... maybe that's the solution 🤔
"Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir." Ilka Chase
DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
No need to go that high up. Spending two weeks in Font-Romeu (or Saint-Véran) is a great option—you can really boost your red blood cell count! Of course, you’ll need the time for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
HE Henon21 Veteran ·
Good evening Alain, Thanks for bringing up old Laos! First trip in 2000, then 2002, and the 5th at the end of 2019. Yes, in Vientiane, all the street restaurants and activities were along the Mekong. No train, of course, as you mentioned, and no Chinese influence either. The roads were safe except for the Capital-Luang Prabang route because local ethnic groups were fighting the government troops. One ATR plane handled the connections (ATR = "Always Late Plane," as the locals called it). And if there was a problem, they’d bring out a Russian plane (thanks for the model info), or as a last resort, a Chinese one. Like you, crossing the mountain range was quite the experience. A veteran from Dien Bien Phu! I met one who was a guardian at one of the temples in Luang Prabang. The markets were for locals but smaller, and the night market didn’t exist yet. In the countryside, elephants were still working in the forest. We’d come across them on the roads. The Kuang Si Falls weren’t developed yet. The 4,000 Islands were very wild, with lots of fishermen. Fortunately, some places haven’t suffered too much from tourism, and LP’s UNESCO status protects it. As your story shows, Laos still has many untouched spots, and it doesn’t have the overtourism of Thailand or what’s now affecting Vietnam. Two anecdotes: On the flight back from Luang Prabang, we’d leave our passports and tickets on an unattended counter and go to the market on the way to the airport. At a place to stay in Ban Khiet Nong (south of Pakse), they offered us a deal: if we stayed for 3 days and 2 nights, we could learn to ride our own elephants (females, which are more docile). We’d learn the words to guide them, hand and foot gestures (no sticks), and get each elephant familiar with our voice and scent, as well as our foot movements. No baskets, of course—just sitting on the head of our pachyderm. The instructor walked between us. Three hours of various exercises, and if successful, we’d go on afternoon rides through different terrains, the instructor (mahout) on his own elephant and us alone on ours (there were two of us). Then, longer treks like climbing Phou Asa. Unforgettable. Thanks again for this great story, and to Alain for sharing his first experience. Eric
HENON Eric
PU Puma2A Veteran ·
Good evening Eric,

It was my first—and only—contact with that country. Regarding the A.T.R., I was told it was piloted by an Australian crew, which inspired a little more confidence. However, the access door to the plane was just behind the main landing gear, and I noticed the tires were worn "to the wire," with the steel cord clearly visible—it was terrifying. I’ve never seen a plane since with tires that worn out. A few years later, I learned that (unfortunately) this aircraft ended its life in the Mekong during a Vientiane/Paksé flight with few survivors...!!

I remember at the big market in Vientiane, we fell in love with a fabric piece (a sort of embroidered blanket) in beautiful blue tones. We decided to buy it, but the seller and her neighbors expected us to haggle (and even explained it to us!!). The fabric was too beautiful for bargaining, so I accepted the starting price. The seller was almost offended... and then gave me a substantial discount. 😐

Little by little, memories are coming back in bits and pieces...

On the way back, from Paksé, we were taken to the Thai border, where we changed vehicles and drivers. And within less than 100 meters, we realized we had truly entered a different country: a kind of serenity on the Lao side, and sheer madness on the Thai side (with a "wage of fear" vibe on the Thai road...). It was a small-group trip from the Nouvelles Frontières catalog.

With the current omnipresence of China in certain areas (seen in documentaries), I have no desire to return there (I feel more at ease deep in the Tanzanian bush... 🙂).

Thanks to everyone, have a great weekend!

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PU Puma2A Veteran ·
Hi,

I made a (big) MISTAKE in my post on the previous page: I called the first bridge gifted by Australia for crossing the Mekong near Vientiane the "Freedom Bridge". It's actually the "Friendship Bridge"!! Inaugurated in 1994.

(The name "Freedom Bridge" could have been seen as an insult by Laotian authorities...) There are now apparently 4 Friendship Bridges along the Mekong in Laos. My apologies for this error....

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RO Rouquine38 Globetrotter ·
No need to go that high up. Spending 2 weeks in Font-Romeu (or St. Véran) is an option—you can really boost your red blood cells! Of course, you need the time for it.

Yeah, but that’s exactly what we’re missing… time 😅
"Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir." Ilka Chase
TF Tfcboy31 Regular ·
Hi Richard, Kate, and your travel companions,

Thanks for this lovely travel journal—it brought back such sweet memories of my trips to Laos (4 in total: 2012, 2017, 2023, and 2025). In 2017, we still saw Irrawaddy dolphins at the 4,000 Islands. I’m really behind on reading, but it let me devour the journal in one go.
RI RichardXI Regular ·
Thanks so much, Élisabeth, for reading us. You were really lucky to have seen the last Irrawaddy dolphins! 🐬
FL FloAsie ·
Oh no, honestly, one month isn’t too much at all! In reality, it’s even the minimum to start feeling like you can breathe in Thailand and Laos. I don’t know how to explain it, but when you arrive with your big suitcase after a 12-hour flight, you’re completely out of it for the first three days. So don’t forget that adjustment time.

Personally, I did the same thing last year and regretted not having four full weeks. Between bus rides that eat up your days, the diarrhea you catch from trying everything (yes, it happens even to the most careful), and the days when you just want to do nothing by the pool at your guesthouse, there’s not much time left. So one month is just enough.

About your Vietnam question, you’re right that there’s a land route. From what I remember, direct buses from Pakse to Hue exist, and it’s a pretty good option. Like, 10 to 12 hours by bus, around 25-30 € if I recall correctly. Honestly, it’s less of a hassle than going back to Bangkok and leaving again. That said, double-check the current schedules because routes change often over there.

What I’d advise is to really not cram your itinerary just to fit Vietnam in at the same time. It’s better to have two weeks that are truly chill in Thailand and Laos than a month where you’re just in transit. People who do that end up rushing everywhere, and in the end, nothing really sticks in your mind, you know?

Anyway, make the most of it and spend some time in places without trying to go everywhere. That’s my two cents! !
Flo — Expat Bangkok depuis 2019 · Thaïlande, Vietnam, Cambodge, Bali · Je réponds sur le budget, les visas et la logistique terrain
KA Kate Globetrotter ·
Oh come on, honestly, one month isn’t too much at all! Actually, it’s even the minimum to start feeling at ease in Thailand and Laos

Hi there,

I think you didn’t read the context of my sentence—or the rest of the travel journal, for that matter. In this post, I was replying to Aleph, saying that staying that long in a small region of Laos (the Bolavens) seemed a bit much to me. As for our own trip (it’s over now, this is a travel journal), we did spend a month combining Laos and a bit of Thailand. But not everyone has unlimited vacation time, you know ;P
Mes photos sur Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/153304262@N05/albums "Le Temps nous égare. Le Temps nous étreint. Le Temps nous est gare. Le Temps nous est train".
SO Songsam Veteran ·
Hi,

I think you didn’t read the context of my sentence or the rest of the travel journal, for that matter.

Yeah, because this isn’t his first time replying way off-topic—often with (sometimes major) nonsense or completely missing the point. His poor grasp of French* and AI are probably behind all this. *He often makes mistakes that aren’t the usual ones you’d see from a "lazy" French speaker on social media, but rather those of someone whose first language isn’t French.

Looking at all his replies, I’m convinced we’re dealing with this kind of joker: https://voyageforum.com/forum/ere-conseils-voyage-entre-ia-forums-gratuits-expertise-locale-d10788202/

The silent infiltration of forums Free travel forums have gradually become marketing hunting grounds. Behind the guise of "experienced travelers," you’ll now find tourism professionals, affiliates chasing commissions, or aspiring influencers testing monetization strategies.

Actually, it’s probably an entire marketing team—their writing style changes so much from one reply to the next. I really hope the moderation team wakes up and finally gets rid of them. By the way, I’m clicking the ad-hoc button to "self"-report this message right now to make sure they see it. We’ll see what happens...
MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
Hello, I say this brings back that amazing travel journal, and just for that, it’s a good thing!! For the rest, the joker is indeed well identified.
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux." Marcel Proust

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