Descendre le Mekong dans son intégralité
by Kikis
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à tous
Nous envisageons de descendre le Mékong dans son intégralité et avec des enfants qui auront au momment du voyage 7 et 9 ans. Pouvez vous me de donner des renseignements sur des agences locales, comment allier trek et bâteau, quelle durée, quel coût, quel période. Ce proget me tient beaucoup à coeur, c'est un vieux rêve... qui doit être réaliser. Merci pour vos conseils, idées suggestions, kikis
Saches quand-même que beaucoup en ont déjà plein le cul après seulement la portion de 2 jours entre Houey-Xay et Luang-Prabang (Laos), alors que c'est une des parties les plus intéressantes du fleuve et sans compter que c'est une très infime, voire minuscule, portion du parcours complet.
Bon courage les enfants...
Bon courage les enfants...
J'aime mon p'tit bout de tissu à fleurs.
intégralité ?? avec des enfants ?? du mekong jaune au brun......
déjà peut de personnes l'ont fait, 2 il y a une partie dangereuse, , le petit passage laos birmanie, interdit a tout étranger, ,
ou le faire veut dire au fond du bateau déguisée en local,
( une partie qui donne froid au dos, , quant on vois les cadavres flottants ..) car c'est l'endroit très pratique pour se debarasser de quelqu'un, ,
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Il me semble aussi avoir aperçu à la TV un reportage sur une famille qui l'a fait (en partie seulement je suppose) avec 2 enfants. Pour ma part si j'avais l'occasion de réaliser ce rêve, je le préparerais comme un tour du monde, en y consacrant au moins 6 mois... et en évitant certains coins !
ok Mais c'est quoi la partie complète...
Heu, j'm'excuse mais c'est toi qu'as dis que :
Nous envisageons de descendre le Mékong dans son intégralité
Alors j'espère que t'en sais un peu plus....
Allez, je t'aide : source au Tibet, delta au Viet-Nam (navigable de Chine à Viet-Nam, sauf quelques portions dangereuses ou/et impossibles : cascades, etc.).
Bon courage...
Heu, j'm'excuse mais c'est toi qu'as dis que :
Nous envisageons de descendre le Mékong dans son intégralité
Alors j'espère que t'en sais un peu plus....
Allez, je t'aide : source au Tibet, delta au Viet-Nam (navigable de Chine à Viet-Nam, sauf quelques portions dangereuses ou/et impossibles : cascades, etc.).
Bon courage...
J'aime mon p'tit bout de tissu à fleurs.
Hello Tous,
Faut arrêter d'idéaliser avec la "descente complète du Mékong", uniquement parce que le nom de ce fleuve, imaginé de loin, "sonne souvent exotique" et "promet de l'extraordinaire et du fabuleux" pour un étranger... Régulièrement, ici sur VF, y'en a un ou deux qui projettent de "faire le Mékong" (fais une recherche avec ce mot, tu verras), mais personne, une fois sur place, ne le fait. Normal : ultra long, fatiguant, inconfortable, plus de la moitié du trajet incroyablement monotone, sans aucun intérêt fort (le paysage : un seul fin trait vert ou marron pour horizon, loin du bateau, et pendant des centaines de kms), et tout l'arrière pays montagneux inaccessible alors que souvent bien plus intéressant, etc.
Alors bref, mon conseil (à prendre ou à laisser) : vas sur place, offre toi une journée de "croisière" sur le Mékong, puis après ça tu décideras de la suite. Car peut-être en auras-tu déjà marre ; si si, c'est possible.
Et puis, objectivement, pour des enfants, l'intégralité !!! Les pauvres... pitié pour eux...
Faut arrêter d'idéaliser avec la "descente complète du Mékong", uniquement parce que le nom de ce fleuve, imaginé de loin, "sonne souvent exotique" et "promet de l'extraordinaire et du fabuleux" pour un étranger... Régulièrement, ici sur VF, y'en a un ou deux qui projettent de "faire le Mékong" (fais une recherche avec ce mot, tu verras), mais personne, une fois sur place, ne le fait. Normal : ultra long, fatiguant, inconfortable, plus de la moitié du trajet incroyablement monotone, sans aucun intérêt fort (le paysage : un seul fin trait vert ou marron pour horizon, loin du bateau, et pendant des centaines de kms), et tout l'arrière pays montagneux inaccessible alors que souvent bien plus intéressant, etc.
Alors bref, mon conseil (à prendre ou à laisser) : vas sur place, offre toi une journée de "croisière" sur le Mékong, puis après ça tu décideras de la suite. Car peut-être en auras-tu déjà marre ; si si, c'est possible.
Et puis, objectivement, pour des enfants, l'intégralité !!! Les pauvres... pitié pour eux...
200 jours à pied,
seul, sans guide,
aux confins du Laos : CLIC
tu y vas un peu fort je trouve, ce projet est superbe même si il est effectivemnt pastrés facile à envisager de plus avec des enfants mais je pense que faire la descente intégrale n'a plus rien à voir avec une croisière de 1 ou 2 jours qui ne donne qu'une envie c'est d'arriver de l'autre coté au bout de quelques heures;
en partant comme çà, le but, est tout autre, enfin je pensemais uivre les conseils des anciens n'ai pas non plus chose à negliger 🙂
je crois vraiment que certains coins sont effectivement trés mal fréquentés ....
Une chose est sûre, il faut faire quelque chose !!!!!!
Les chutes infranchissables a la frontiere Laos-Cambodge devront se faire par voie terrestre... 🙂
Hello,
Pourtant, je t'assure, à aucun moment je n'ai eu l'impression d'exagérer. M'enfin, tous les conseils sont bons. A Kikis de trier !
A +
Pourtant, je t'assure, à aucun moment je n'ai eu l'impression d'exagérer. M'enfin, tous les conseils sont bons. A Kikis de trier !
A +
200 jours à pied,
seul, sans guide,
aux confins du Laos : CLIC
oui des journaliste, , mais pas grand monde
voir le national geographic 1968, , puis un geo ( dont bibi a travailler😛 ) mais même si il se présente comme complet il ne l'est pas
il ya des parties ouvertes au tourisme, , mais pas mal qui ne le sont pas, tibet vietnam, , c'est une trotte, ,
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Ok Ok Ok On va dire que c’est mythique et utopique…mais je me joins à sa demande …et si vous nous aidiez !!!!???
Et si nous rassemblions vos connaissances … ! en partant d’une carte géographique des tronçons déjà fait.
Chiche !!!
Du rêve SVP
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😉 Mais OUI, je le sais !
D'abord il y a l'Explorateur MICHEL PEISSEL qui a découvert la Source du MEKONG au TIBET et il a écrit un bon Livre sur ses exploits il y a quelques années ...
Et maintenant, il y a des gens du Club aventure qui vont le faire en remontant le MEKONG du Delta au Sud-VIETNAM et à la Source au TIBET ... depuis la semaine dernière !
Vous n avez qu'à lire dans leur Blog :
http://blog-mekong.clubaventure.fr/
Moi, j ai fait la descente du MEKONG récemment de CHIANG KHONG à LUANG PRABANG en 11h30 et c était magnifique, c est à refaire ! Mais c 'était bien suffisant ! Pas besoin de continuer en descendant jusqu au Delta ou en remontant jusqu'à sa source loin sur le Plateau Tibétain ! Je dois vous prévénir que ce n est pas facile du tout! J en ai discuté avec des gens au Laos qui connaissent bien ce Fleuve ... Même avec des adultes il y a ses obstacles insurmontables au Sud du Laos, au Nord du Cambodge - la partie facile et faisable avec des enfants c'est entre SIEM REAP et le Delta par CAN THO VINH LONG, CA MAU au VIETNAM . Puis il y a le parcours au YUNNAN vers le Nord ! ... __
D'abord il y a l'Explorateur MICHEL PEISSEL qui a découvert la Source du MEKONG au TIBET et il a écrit un bon Livre sur ses exploits il y a quelques années ...
Et maintenant, il y a des gens du Club aventure qui vont le faire en remontant le MEKONG du Delta au Sud-VIETNAM et à la Source au TIBET ... depuis la semaine dernière !
Vous n avez qu'à lire dans leur Blog :
http://blog-mekong.clubaventure.fr/
Moi, j ai fait la descente du MEKONG récemment de CHIANG KHONG à LUANG PRABANG en 11h30 et c était magnifique, c est à refaire ! Mais c 'était bien suffisant ! Pas besoin de continuer en descendant jusqu au Delta ou en remontant jusqu'à sa source loin sur le Plateau Tibétain ! Je dois vous prévénir que ce n est pas facile du tout! J en ai discuté avec des gens au Laos qui connaissent bien ce Fleuve ... Même avec des adultes il y a ses obstacles insurmontables au Sud du Laos, au Nord du Cambodge - la partie facile et faisable avec des enfants c'est entre SIEM REAP et le Delta par CAN THO VINH LONG, CA MAU au VIETNAM . Puis il y a le parcours au YUNNAN vers le Nord ! ... __
oui des journaliste, , mais pas grand monde
voir le national geographic 1968, , puis un geo ( dont bibi a travailler😛 ) mais même si il se présente comme complet il ne l'est pas
il ya des parties ouvertes au tourisme, , mais pas mal qui ne le sont pas, tibet vietnam, , c'est une trotte, ,
Vous avez bien lu comme moi !!!!
Thuan : désigné volontaire pour ouvrir une rubrique
« Nos expériences de la descente du Mékong »
Vous avez bien lu comme moi !!!!
Thuan : désigné volontaire pour ouvrir une rubrique
« Nos expériences de la descente du Mékong »
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Bonjour,
Thuan doit faire la grasse mat ce matin?
A plus Franca
A plus Franca
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je suis passé que sur une très petite partie du mekong, sud chine thailande,
la raison?? on ne m'a donner que ce tronçon, car personne ne voulais le faire,
pas très romantique
pas évident a faire, , saison chaude, pas d'eau, , donc a pied, ,
saison des pluies .. pas un bateau s'y risquerais, ,
sauf quelques farangs en manque de sensation forte, ,
en tout cas le mekons est en triste état, , déjà les plamuks ne survivent pas ce que l'homme est entrain de faire, ,
puis les chinois sont entrain de faire des barrages chez eux, ,
pas évident son futur, , et dire que il est essentiel pour une très grande population,
petite anecdote sur le mekong, , ( dont je suis le héros ..)
du cote thai laos dans un village j'entends un tas de cris, venant du fleuve, ,
comme ma curiosité est toujours aigu, , je fait la bandeau, et la je vois
tout le village agitant angoisser, , ( même les bonzes étaie de la fête, ) tous pointent le mekong a un certain endroit, , la on vois très clairement une main et une partie du bras sortant de l'eau et pointant vers le village, ,
le problème est que en general ses personnages voyagent, , mais la non,
plantée bien au milieu du village,
bien, comme tout le monde restait a une certaine distance, je me suis approcher, , devant moi un cadavre derrière moi des cris d'horreur,
mais le vaillant s'approche, , a un telle point que je remarche ce que c'était
j'adapte la main bien fort, , le village en folie, , et tire bien fort ....
ce n'était que une branche a la copie conforme de une main, ,
le farang a braver la peur, , j'ai été inviter partout comme un farang qui n'a peur de rien, ,
bon c'est un peut facile de jouer les superman dans un coin ou on a très peur des esprits et tout ce qui tour autour, ,
Question pourquoi le mekong est si apaisant quant on le regarde, , je me suis posé plusieurs fois cette question sans reponse, , pour les amateur de photo, , se lever très tôt magnifique en lumière rasante
Question pourquoi le mekong est si apaisant quant on le regarde, , je me suis posé plusieurs fois cette question sans reponse, , pour les amateur de photo, , se lever très tôt magnifique en lumière rasante

« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Bonjour à tous et merci pour vos réponses passionnées. Je suis tout à fait d'accord pour que l'on mette nos connaissances en commun. Rassurez vous je ne suis pas farfelue, et n'entrainerai pas mes enfants dans une galère. Je viens de trouver le livre de Nadine Delpech "2 enfants sur le Mékong du Viet Nam en Thailande en passant par le cambodge et le Laos, donc c'est possible. En ce momment sur la 5, dans échappée belle, on parle de la descente intégrale du Mékong. Je cherche un ordre de budget et des contacts (agences ou guides sur place). J'attends l'email d'un contact au Laos (via un ami français qui a déjà descendu une partie du Mékong avec ce guide), je vous en dirais un peu plus dés que possible. A +
nous n'avons pas du tout envie de faire un voyage bidochon, même si les parties touristiques sont belles et à voir, ce qui nous intéresse, c'est les rencontres avec les autres, prendre le temps. Nous mettrons le temps qu'il faut à préparer cette descente et ce voyage, mais nous le ferons...Nous sommes artisans tous les 2 et n'avons donc pas de contrainte de temps pour rentrer, un peu dans la philosophie de flob, on sait quand on part mais on ne sait pas quand on rentre, du coup le voyage est abordé différemment.
pour le moment il n'y a pas de voyage a la bidochon, , ce n'est pas si exploiter que cela, , le problème est politique, , il y a des pays qui sont en lute, en rebellion, et les touristes ne sont pas les bien venue, ,
Depuis la Thailande au Viet nam ce sont des pays ouvert au tourisme,
le coin de la Birmanie non ( il y a un anglais qui croupit dans une prison du coin pour cela, , )
le yunan, est pas évident, une grande partie du mekong est au font de précipices, , ( la ou la presse ne va pas trop galère ) on vous montre que une partie facile et idyllique, mais la réalité est légèrement plus compliquer, ,
moi j'attends d'avoir des autorisations pour le faire en ULM, 😉
un petit conseille, , il n'y a aucune infrastructure hospitalier dans le coin, , avec des enfants il faut prévoir, ,
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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😉 Bonjour Thuan,
"SAWASDEE" - d'Avril 1997 ... il y a 10 ans ! C 'est bien le Magazine de THAI INTERNATIONAL qu'on trouve dans leurs avions, n'est-ce pas ? Pas facile de trouver ce N° aujourd'hui et puis le MEKONG a beaucoup changé depuis ces 10 dernières années !
Par contre, on peut trouver encore dans certains Kiosques de Presse le dernier N° 4 - FEVRIER / MARS 2007 - du Magazine " USHUAIA " de NICOLAS HULOT sur le MEKONG . C est un Reportage remarquable avec beaucoup de choses très intéressantes à découvrir ! Par contre, je ne sais pas si son Emission d 'USHUAIA-NATURE du même sujet et Reportage est déjà diffusée sur TF1 ? C est un très bon Reportage que je viens de lire ... __
"SAWASDEE" - d'Avril 1997 ... il y a 10 ans ! C 'est bien le Magazine de THAI INTERNATIONAL qu'on trouve dans leurs avions, n'est-ce pas ? Pas facile de trouver ce N° aujourd'hui et puis le MEKONG a beaucoup changé depuis ces 10 dernières années !
Par contre, on peut trouver encore dans certains Kiosques de Presse le dernier N° 4 - FEVRIER / MARS 2007 - du Magazine " USHUAIA " de NICOLAS HULOT sur le MEKONG . C est un Reportage remarquable avec beaucoup de choses très intéressantes à découvrir ! Par contre, je ne sais pas si son Emission d 'USHUAIA-NATURE du même sujet et Reportage est déjà diffusée sur TF1 ? C est un très bon Reportage que je viens de lire ... __
Thuan ! Je suis pilote avion et ULM …pas de problème…qui faut-il tuer pour venir avec toi ???
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"En ce momment sur la 5, dans échappée belle, on parle de la descente intégrale du Mékong"
J'ai vu, comme d'autres, le reportage complet. Le journaliste fait quand même souvent mention que ce n'est pas du tout évident ne fusse que pour trouver un bateau qui circule sur certains tronçons.
Il fait régulièrement mention qu'il n'a pas facile de circuler.
Alors avec des p'tits bouts...
Michel
J'ai vu, comme d'autres, le reportage complet. Le journaliste fait quand même souvent mention que ce n'est pas du tout évident ne fusse que pour trouver un bateau qui circule sur certains tronçons.
Il fait régulièrement mention qu'il n'a pas facile de circuler.
Alors avec des p'tits bouts...
Michel
nous n'avons pas du tout envie de faire un voyage bidochon, même si les parties touristiques sont belles et à voir, ce qui nous intéresse, c'est les rencontres avec les autres, prendre le temps. Nous mettrons le temps qu'il faut à préparer cette descente et ce voyage, mais nous le ferons...
Hello, Sans vouloir critiquer ou juger de quoi que ce soit, juste quelques petites questions : avez-vous déjà une expérience quelconque de l'Asie ou des pays tropicaux et "sauvages" (je parle point de vue nature, pas des gens) ? avez-vous une petite expérience de la navigation fluviale ? avez-vous des notions d'anglais suffisantes ? avez-vous des notions de secourisme ? avez-vous un budget suffisant ?
Avant de vous lancer dans une pareille aventure, ne serait-il pas bon d'aller d'abord voir sur place, ne serait-ce qu'une quinzaine de jours, dans un endroit non-touristique (genre Issan pour la Thailande ou Extrême Nord pour le Vietnam - je ne connais pas les autres pays) pour voir si vous supportez : la chaleur, les moustiques, les pluies tropicales, les endroits tout ce qu'il y a de plus inconfortable pour dormir, etc... Comme dit Thuan, il n'y a pas encore de voyage "bidochon" dans ce domaine et peut-être serait-il plus judicieux d'en faire un avant, justement...
Hello, Sans vouloir critiquer ou juger de quoi que ce soit, juste quelques petites questions : avez-vous déjà une expérience quelconque de l'Asie ou des pays tropicaux et "sauvages" (je parle point de vue nature, pas des gens) ? avez-vous une petite expérience de la navigation fluviale ? avez-vous des notions d'anglais suffisantes ? avez-vous des notions de secourisme ? avez-vous un budget suffisant ?
Avant de vous lancer dans une pareille aventure, ne serait-il pas bon d'aller d'abord voir sur place, ne serait-ce qu'une quinzaine de jours, dans un endroit non-touristique (genre Issan pour la Thailande ou Extrême Nord pour le Vietnam - je ne connais pas les autres pays) pour voir si vous supportez : la chaleur, les moustiques, les pluies tropicales, les endroits tout ce qu'il y a de plus inconfortable pour dormir, etc... Comme dit Thuan, il n'y a pas encore de voyage "bidochon" dans ce domaine et peut-être serait-il plus judicieux d'en faire un avant, justement...
Bonjour
Pour répondre à vos questions : oui nous avons l'habitude de ce genre de voyage, et avons déjà quelques expérience en la matière... Il est evident que nous ne nous lancerons pas dans ce proget sans avoir essayer d'anticiper le plus de chose possible. Alors petits bout par petits bouts...
Il est evident que nous ne nous lancerons pas dans ce proget sans avoir essayer d'anticiper le plus de chose possible
Alors c'est déjà un plus... Il y a tellement de gens qui pensent que c'est facile qu'il vaut mieux leur montrer directement l'autre côté de la médaille...
Alors c'est déjà un plus... Il y a tellement de gens qui pensent que c'est facile qu'il vaut mieux leur montrer directement l'autre côté de la médaille...
Moi aussi j'ai descendu du mekong dans son intégralité ! hic 🤪😇
Quand l'eau baisse les fourmis mangent les poissons; quand l'eau monte les poissons mangent les fourmis.
Il n'y a que le changement qui ne change pas.
Moi aussi j'ai descendu du mekong dans son intégralité ! hic 🤪
Il ne te reste plus qu'à confier ton foie à Badoit... 😏😏😏
Il ne te reste plus qu'à confier ton foie à Badoit... 😏😏😏
Moi aussi j'ai descendu du mekong dans son intégralité ! hic 🤪
Il ne te reste plus qu'à confier ton foie à Badoit... 😏😏😏
mais tu fais des vers sans en avoir l'air 😉

Il ne te reste plus qu'à confier ton foie à Badoit... 😏😏😏
mais tu fais des vers sans en avoir l'air 😉
Quand l'eau baisse les fourmis mangent les poissons; quand l'eau monte les poissons mangent les fourmis.
Il n'y a que le changement qui ne change pas.
mais tu fais des vers sans en avoir l'air 😉
et des poésies... quoique mon style soit plutôt la narration 😏 sur ce, je n'aijamais osé goûter le Mékong, il paraît qu'il est "traître" comme le fleuve quand on n'y prend pas garde...
et des poésies... quoique mon style soit plutôt la narration 😏 sur ce, je n'aijamais osé goûter le Mékong, il paraît qu'il est "traître" comme le fleuve quand on n'y prend pas garde...
Hello, voila mes 3 experiences MEKONG, mais avec 2 enfants tu vas CRAQUER, et eux aussi,
Bon courage et bon voyage amical
LAOS HOUEISAI ==> LUANG PRABANG De CHIANG KHONG THAILANDE, il faut passer par l'immigration pour sortir de la THAILANDE, ensuite prendre un petit bateau pour traverser le MEKONG et on arrive a HOUEISAI LAOS. Immigration pour rentrer au LAOS. Les rues jonchees de KAPOK comme si l'on venait de plumer un troupeau d'oies. Il faut prendre un TUK TUK pour aller a l'embarcadere, prendre le slowboat qui descend le MEKONG en direction de PAKBENG. C'est merveilleux tour a tour etroit, puissant, desert, cisaille de paravents de rocs noirs, de feuilletages, de recifs, au passage les tribus HMONGS, des plantations de cacahuetes. MAGNIFIQUE, tu oublies ton mal au dos. Dans le slowboat 10 heures du matin, 3 francais, YAN breton, FABIEN Picard à la biere, ISABELLE plus cool. On s'est bien marre avec les deux arsouilles.
PAKBENG Apres 6 heures de slowboat l'arrivee à PAKBENG. DUR DUR il faut escalader 3 bateaux pour arriver au bord, escalader des rochers, un escalier gigantesque OUF mais la galere n'est pas terminee, il faut trouver une guesthouse, elles sont toutes FULL. Heureusement un porteur qui avait mon sac a dos m'a emmene dans une guesthouse, au moins 1 kilometre sous le soleil dans la poussiere. Il restait une chambre, pour 2 euros c'est une paillasse. Il faut en vouloir pour arriver a PAKBENG, ce village possede un gout indeniable de BOUT DU MONDE. C'est une bourgade de HMONGS jete sur un flanc de montagne. Dans ma guesthouse, 3 italiens KRISTIAN, ALEX, ANDREA, on se parlera en espagnol et 2 suisses LARA et HOMAR parlent francais, on est tombe dans un tonneau de biere et de chanvre, une super soiree, on s'est bien marre. A PAKBENG tu achetes ton pain, ton chanvre et ton opium. Homar comparera l'arrivee de Pakbeng au Galibier. Leve 7 heures, mon porteur vient me chercher pour retourner au slowboat. Heureusement qu'il etait LA. Il m'a beaucoup aide a descendre les rochers. Arrive dans le slowboat je retrouve mes arsouilles YAN et FABIEN plutot fatigues. Nous redescendons le MEKONG pendant 7 heures pour cette 2e journee. DES PAYSAGES FABULEUX. Je suis tres emue de faire cette traversee, tu imagines toute l'histoire avec tous les pepes qui y sont restes. Cette traversee sera un SOUVENIRS MERVEILLEUX.
LUANG PRABANG
Arrivee LUANG PRABANG encore de l'escalade mais plus cool que PAKBENG. Ma guesthouse le luxe douche et eau chaude mais 6 dollars. Ici ils parlent le dollar couramment. A ce sujet quand tu changes 100 dollars il faut ton sac a dos pour mettre les kips, si j'avais autant d'euros…
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CHINE ==>THAILANDE JINGHONG
Cette ville est plus sympa, enfin une personne super sympa qui parle anglais au MEI’S MEI’S CAFE c’est ORCHID, elle me donne les infos pour prendre un cargo de fret afin de rejoindre la THAILANDE. J’ai trouve un pousse-pousse sympa avec le sourire, nous avons du mal a nous comprendre mais on rigole bien. Mon pousse-pousse m’emmene au port afin de trouver un cargo de fret. Et la je tombe sur une autre femme tres sympa de l’emmigration, elle va beaucoup m’aider pour trouver le cargo.
Et maintenant l’esperience cargo, enfin en guise de cargo moi j’appellerai cela une tres grosse peniche. Normalement le voyage doit durer maxi 2 jours… C’est un cargo de fret il doit transporter des crevettes, plus votre tintina. Port de JINGHONG CHINE le MEKONG, dimanche 25 avril 2004, 8 heures du matin, mon driver pousse-pousse me depose a cote du bateau avec qui les negociations avaient eu lieu 2 jours auparavant, 400 yuans ou 50 dollars, le voyage, la bouffe, et la couchette inclus. J’embarque, c’est facile, on m’installe dans une cabine ou l’on peut mettre 4 personnes, mais je serai toute seule. Un demi-heure apres on part, ALORS LA DES PAYSAGES DE REVES, meme pas tu peux imaginer. Ce MEKONG me fait vibrer, c’est encore plus beau que la partie HOUESSAI ==> LUANG PRABANG qui m’avait deja tres emu. C’est ponctue de nombreux rapides, entre des rives encaissees d’une vegetation luxuriante. Vers 12h on arrive a QUAN LEI frontiere chinoise, le commandant me fait comprendre qu’il faut reparer des pieces du bateau et que l’on repartira le lendemain. Je mange avec l’equipage, le cuisto est tres sympa, d’ailleurs si ma memoire est bonne dans un Tintin, il y a un cuisto chinois qui lui ressemble avec ses dents en avant. Ils boivent du sake en mangeant et ma copine Claude m’a dit de ne jamais vexe un chinois, donc pour ne pas les vexer je bois un verre a moutarde de sake… du tord boyaux… ENFIN DES CHINOIS SYMPAS, je ne partirais pas de la CHINE avec une mauvaise impression des chinois. Maintenant je maitrise le langage des sourds et muets. Le matin soupe avec des pates le midi riz avec du poulet ou du poisson et tous les jours idem. Les TOILETTES dans le cargo sont les memes que dans les toilettes publics sauf qu’elles sont propres et en plus elles font douches OUI mais avec de l’eau chaude et une porte, tu as ton intimite. Lundi 26 avril toujours en rade Mardi 27 avril impossible de partir il n’y a pas assez d’eau dans le MEKONG, heureusement il pleut donc on pourra partir le lendemain. Mercredi 28 avril, apres les formalites d’emigration et un coup de fil a TITIA (happy birthday a 2H du mat pour la france) on reprend le MEKONG. J’ai sympathise avec l’equipage ils sont supers sympas une dizaine de gars pour moi toute seule ils me bichonnent tous. LES PAYSAGES SONT FABULEUX. D’un cote MYAMAR de l’autre la CHINE qui ensuite est suivi du LAOS. Mercredi 28 avril 20h on arrive en THAILANDE a QIMSHEN MAIS COMME L'EMMIGRATION EST FERMEE ON A PAS LE DROIT DE QUITTER LE BATEAU. Jeudi 29 avril 2004, 9h du mat l’emigration ouvre. L’emigration vient sur le bateau, passeport rempli doc et verifie que tu n’es pas malade, ils te prennent la temperature dans l’oreille et vlan me voila avec une quinte de toux car je me suis chopper la creve a KUNMING, j’ai bien failli etre refoulee. Enfin le Commandant a dit que j’avais un petit rhume mais que tout allait bien OUF… Il est 11h quand tout a ete inspecte. On peut enfin quitter le bateau et partir. Apres 5 jours me voila a CHIANG KONG en THAILANDE et j’attends Yo qui vient me rejoindre. MA PLUS BELLE EXPERIENCE DE CE VOYAGE.
Remarques : La CHINE je precise le YUNNAN car c’est tres grand la CHINE, c’est vraiment difficile, tout est ecrit en chinois, les chinois ne parlent pas anglais et ils ne sont pas souriant. J’ai rencontre uniquement 2 nanas et 1 driver pousse-pousse sympas, les 3 a JINGKONG. Il n’y a meme pas de carte postale. HEUREUSEMENT que l’EQUIPAGE du CARGO etait ADORABLE.
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DELTA DU MEKONG CAIBE CANTHO CAIRANG VINH LONG
A CAIRANG le FABULEUX marché flottant, c’est tres pauvre, les gens habitent dans leurs bateaux, c’est tres emouvant.
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LAOS HOUEISAI ==> LUANG PRABANG De CHIANG KHONG THAILANDE, il faut passer par l'immigration pour sortir de la THAILANDE, ensuite prendre un petit bateau pour traverser le MEKONG et on arrive a HOUEISAI LAOS. Immigration pour rentrer au LAOS. Les rues jonchees de KAPOK comme si l'on venait de plumer un troupeau d'oies. Il faut prendre un TUK TUK pour aller a l'embarcadere, prendre le slowboat qui descend le MEKONG en direction de PAKBENG. C'est merveilleux tour a tour etroit, puissant, desert, cisaille de paravents de rocs noirs, de feuilletages, de recifs, au passage les tribus HMONGS, des plantations de cacahuetes. MAGNIFIQUE, tu oublies ton mal au dos. Dans le slowboat 10 heures du matin, 3 francais, YAN breton, FABIEN Picard à la biere, ISABELLE plus cool. On s'est bien marre avec les deux arsouilles.
PAKBENG Apres 6 heures de slowboat l'arrivee à PAKBENG. DUR DUR il faut escalader 3 bateaux pour arriver au bord, escalader des rochers, un escalier gigantesque OUF mais la galere n'est pas terminee, il faut trouver une guesthouse, elles sont toutes FULL. Heureusement un porteur qui avait mon sac a dos m'a emmene dans une guesthouse, au moins 1 kilometre sous le soleil dans la poussiere. Il restait une chambre, pour 2 euros c'est une paillasse. Il faut en vouloir pour arriver a PAKBENG, ce village possede un gout indeniable de BOUT DU MONDE. C'est une bourgade de HMONGS jete sur un flanc de montagne. Dans ma guesthouse, 3 italiens KRISTIAN, ALEX, ANDREA, on se parlera en espagnol et 2 suisses LARA et HOMAR parlent francais, on est tombe dans un tonneau de biere et de chanvre, une super soiree, on s'est bien marre. A PAKBENG tu achetes ton pain, ton chanvre et ton opium. Homar comparera l'arrivee de Pakbeng au Galibier. Leve 7 heures, mon porteur vient me chercher pour retourner au slowboat. Heureusement qu'il etait LA. Il m'a beaucoup aide a descendre les rochers. Arrive dans le slowboat je retrouve mes arsouilles YAN et FABIEN plutot fatigues. Nous redescendons le MEKONG pendant 7 heures pour cette 2e journee. DES PAYSAGES FABULEUX. Je suis tres emue de faire cette traversee, tu imagines toute l'histoire avec tous les pepes qui y sont restes. Cette traversee sera un SOUVENIRS MERVEILLEUX.
LUANG PRABANG
Arrivee LUANG PRABANG encore de l'escalade mais plus cool que PAKBENG. Ma guesthouse le luxe douche et eau chaude mais 6 dollars. Ici ils parlent le dollar couramment. A ce sujet quand tu changes 100 dollars il faut ton sac a dos pour mettre les kips, si j'avais autant d'euros…
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CHINE ==>THAILANDE JINGHONG
Cette ville est plus sympa, enfin une personne super sympa qui parle anglais au MEI’S MEI’S CAFE c’est ORCHID, elle me donne les infos pour prendre un cargo de fret afin de rejoindre la THAILANDE. J’ai trouve un pousse-pousse sympa avec le sourire, nous avons du mal a nous comprendre mais on rigole bien. Mon pousse-pousse m’emmene au port afin de trouver un cargo de fret. Et la je tombe sur une autre femme tres sympa de l’emmigration, elle va beaucoup m’aider pour trouver le cargo.
Et maintenant l’esperience cargo, enfin en guise de cargo moi j’appellerai cela une tres grosse peniche. Normalement le voyage doit durer maxi 2 jours… C’est un cargo de fret il doit transporter des crevettes, plus votre tintina. Port de JINGHONG CHINE le MEKONG, dimanche 25 avril 2004, 8 heures du matin, mon driver pousse-pousse me depose a cote du bateau avec qui les negociations avaient eu lieu 2 jours auparavant, 400 yuans ou 50 dollars, le voyage, la bouffe, et la couchette inclus. J’embarque, c’est facile, on m’installe dans une cabine ou l’on peut mettre 4 personnes, mais je serai toute seule. Un demi-heure apres on part, ALORS LA DES PAYSAGES DE REVES, meme pas tu peux imaginer. Ce MEKONG me fait vibrer, c’est encore plus beau que la partie HOUESSAI ==> LUANG PRABANG qui m’avait deja tres emu. C’est ponctue de nombreux rapides, entre des rives encaissees d’une vegetation luxuriante. Vers 12h on arrive a QUAN LEI frontiere chinoise, le commandant me fait comprendre qu’il faut reparer des pieces du bateau et que l’on repartira le lendemain. Je mange avec l’equipage, le cuisto est tres sympa, d’ailleurs si ma memoire est bonne dans un Tintin, il y a un cuisto chinois qui lui ressemble avec ses dents en avant. Ils boivent du sake en mangeant et ma copine Claude m’a dit de ne jamais vexe un chinois, donc pour ne pas les vexer je bois un verre a moutarde de sake… du tord boyaux… ENFIN DES CHINOIS SYMPAS, je ne partirais pas de la CHINE avec une mauvaise impression des chinois. Maintenant je maitrise le langage des sourds et muets. Le matin soupe avec des pates le midi riz avec du poulet ou du poisson et tous les jours idem. Les TOILETTES dans le cargo sont les memes que dans les toilettes publics sauf qu’elles sont propres et en plus elles font douches OUI mais avec de l’eau chaude et une porte, tu as ton intimite. Lundi 26 avril toujours en rade Mardi 27 avril impossible de partir il n’y a pas assez d’eau dans le MEKONG, heureusement il pleut donc on pourra partir le lendemain. Mercredi 28 avril, apres les formalites d’emigration et un coup de fil a TITIA (happy birthday a 2H du mat pour la france) on reprend le MEKONG. J’ai sympathise avec l’equipage ils sont supers sympas une dizaine de gars pour moi toute seule ils me bichonnent tous. LES PAYSAGES SONT FABULEUX. D’un cote MYAMAR de l’autre la CHINE qui ensuite est suivi du LAOS. Mercredi 28 avril 20h on arrive en THAILANDE a QIMSHEN MAIS COMME L'EMMIGRATION EST FERMEE ON A PAS LE DROIT DE QUITTER LE BATEAU. Jeudi 29 avril 2004, 9h du mat l’emigration ouvre. L’emigration vient sur le bateau, passeport rempli doc et verifie que tu n’es pas malade, ils te prennent la temperature dans l’oreille et vlan me voila avec une quinte de toux car je me suis chopper la creve a KUNMING, j’ai bien failli etre refoulee. Enfin le Commandant a dit que j’avais un petit rhume mais que tout allait bien OUF… Il est 11h quand tout a ete inspecte. On peut enfin quitter le bateau et partir. Apres 5 jours me voila a CHIANG KONG en THAILANDE et j’attends Yo qui vient me rejoindre. MA PLUS BELLE EXPERIENCE DE CE VOYAGE.
Remarques : La CHINE je precise le YUNNAN car c’est tres grand la CHINE, c’est vraiment difficile, tout est ecrit en chinois, les chinois ne parlent pas anglais et ils ne sont pas souriant. J’ai rencontre uniquement 2 nanas et 1 driver pousse-pousse sympas, les 3 a JINGKONG. Il n’y a meme pas de carte postale. HEUREUSEMENT que l’EQUIPAGE du CARGO etait ADORABLE.
==========================================================================================
DELTA DU MEKONG CAIBE CANTHO CAIRANG VINH LONG
A CAIRANG le FABULEUX marché flottant, c’est tres pauvre, les gens habitent dans leurs bateaux, c’est tres emouvant.
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que la puissance de la jungle soit avec toi
Mon site http://tintina.com
il doit transporter des crevettes, plus votre tintina.
une sacrée écrevisse qui carbure au Mekong et au Bojo... 😏😏😏 just joking !!!
je bois un verre a moutarde de sake… du tord boyaux…
et au sake... mazette, tu es drôlement solide 😏😏😏😏
Sacrée Coco, c'est toujours un plaisir de lire tes exploits... une petite pause sourire dans la grisaille belge malheureusement retrouvée... 😕
une sacrée écrevisse qui carbure au Mekong et au Bojo... 😏😏😏 just joking !!!
je bois un verre a moutarde de sake… du tord boyaux…
et au sake... mazette, tu es drôlement solide 😏😏😏😏
Sacrée Coco, c'est toujours un plaisir de lire tes exploits... une petite pause sourire dans la grisaille belge malheureusement retrouvée... 😕
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Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.